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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171014:17:31:00

in michigan and an msnbc contributor. with a welcome to you both, darren, i want to reach out about your source. were you told about why the president's lawyers may want to, as you wrote in your piece, force the issue by volunteering trump's time? >> well, the questioning is really inevitable. if mueller wants to talk to president trump, he's going to be able to make that happen. whether it happens any time soon or next year is really the big question. mueller probably wants to wait until he's talked to everybody else in this investigation and sort of leave the biggest fish for last. he interviewed reince priebus, the former chief of staff, yesterday here in washington, d.c. there are a lot of other white house staffers and former white house staffers, the white house counsel don mcgahn, one of the communications leaders and hope hicks, sean spicer, they're all going to be going in and interviewed by bob mueller. ultimately down the line, donald trump, who said he's 100% ready to talk to bob mueller, is going to get that call. i think the white house wants to maybe push this issue along, try to get this investigation

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:51:00

about puerto rico. "we cannot keep fema, the military and the first responders who have been amazing under the most difficult circumstances in puerto rico forever." now san juan mayor carmen you'll yen cruz is responding to president trump. in a statement to msnbc she says, your tweets and comments just show desperation and underscore the inadequacy of your government's response to this humanitarian crisis. it is not that you do not get it, it is that you are incapable of empathy, and frankly simply cannot get the general done." she called on americans to let this president know we will not be left to die. strong words. you nervous? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:50:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:12:00

severe where sphere where it's going to be unelectable in a lot of states where it's critical to holding both cham hberchambers. if any value or principle they're espoused or hold on to matters. this president is agnostic to all of that. the fact that bannon is out there saying we will take you out tells you that the president has moth monitors on that and this is a direction of the party that's going to be dangerous. >> it sounds like the president is media shopping. he's got steve ducey in the morning, sean at night. fair enough. he doesn't really use rush limbaugh. so he basically says there's two people. remember the rabbi in the nixon days, nixon had one last friend. it was rabbi. he's got sean. and it seems to work. ruth and gabe, it gets enough information out through tweeting and those two people to reach in the morning, he tweets and he

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:45:00

you know, i want to start with you anita and i think there is a pattern here. scorched earth. he doesn't like obama in the history books. he wants to rip him out of it. >> i agree and i think that every president thinks that about the predecessor. >> really? >> yeah. >> eisenhower came in and -- >> president obama came in and wanted to get rid of everything george bush did. >> the iraq war. he kept the iraq war going. >> i think there's a lot of things that he wants to get rid of. it's both policy and personal y personality. i think obama gets under his skin a little bit. >> i remember the white house correspondent's dinner. i think we were all there watching the president skewer this guy, making fun of his business career. >> and his political

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:36:00

president trump who is just somebody who doesn't accept discipline very easily. >> what do you make of the facial expressions of general kelly during the press conferences and speeches by the president. he looks like he's in pain. sometimes he puts his hand over his face and leans down like he's in purgatory. he can't -- can he control the president who he works for? is that doable? >> well, i think he's got an impossible job to try to do that. but look, he's a marine first and foremost. the to understand john kelly, you to understand that as a marine he was very dedicated to the country, dedicated to the mission, wants to support whoever is commander in chief and try to do the best job that he can. so yeah, when he doesn't have a sense of control about what's happening, wakes up in the morning and gets a bunch of tweets from the president that nobody is prepared for were i'm

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:24:00

had to president. >> every other president since water gat except barack obama has had to answer questions by a federal prosecutor. obama, no drama during that time. but george w. bush answered questions, ronald reagan and gerald ford. >> let's talk about what would be the strategy in letting the president sit down with people who know a lot but not everything. >> sure. it's risky for president trump and risky for bob mueller too. it's going to have to happen. i think bob mueller would prefer to wait until his investigation is done. near the end of this information, whether it leads to indictments or just a report to congress or you know complete exoneration. i think he would prefer to wait. trump's people would like to move it along faster. >> could the president be asked under ooet to sit there in front of the special counsel and say to him, in fact one warn him ahead of time, i'm going to ask you for what we call tick tock

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:13:00

dus steve ducey in the morning, the fox and friends and then sean at night for a bigger audience. combining that with his tweeting he's reaching business 30-some percent. he's doing what he wants to do. feeding his army with the words of his message. >> he's communicating with them and i also think it's therapeutic for him. as is the twitter. it helps him let off steam. he's in a safe place in a safe space with fox and friends. and it makes him feel better. one of the things that was striking as i was listening to general kelly is the number of times he used the word frusation. he's not so frustrated that he's leaving. >> he seems pretty cool. >> but the president's frustrations were evident from his behavior but they're also evident from his chief of staff. >> thank you. coming up, the russia investigation. president trump's lawyers may

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:54:00

could come in second to a liberal, more liberal democrat in the california primary, she still makes the runoff and beat them we being able to attract more vote in the middle and on the right and that is exactly what a jungle primary is designed to do. >> let's hope so. >> so we all know president trump loves a good photo op. when he goes to asia next month the question inside the white house is whether he's going to go for the ultimate photo op, a visit to the demilitarized zone between south korea and north korea. there's a lot of talk he might do it and stare straight into north korea. >> what do you think of that? >> i think he would love to do it. >> is it good for safety? >> it's a dangerous place to be. >> someone might want to do something. >> he lives on the edge, donald trump. >> i'm going to tell you a tidbit someone told me, somebody close to the president -- >> a big enough tidbit for us? >> a fun fact. we think when the president's tweeting something that it's something he's seen on tv or in realtime, and this person told me. actually, it's whoever walks

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171012:23:35:00

be fired or whatever and it's just not true. that's my frustration. i mean no disrespect to y'all. >> well that was nice. for more i'm joined by leon panetta. secretary of defense for president obama. held every major position in the government short of president himself. thank you, mr. secretary. have you talked to mr. kelly, general kelly who you knew as general kelly, recently? >> i haven't talked to genre cently. but talked to him before he took that job and he asked me about the important steps that he would have to take. he has taken a lot of important steps in developing a chain of command and providing better discipline there in establishing some kind of order with regards to policy making. i think his biggest issue is he himself will admit, is the challenge of dealing with

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