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woodward got from mr. taveras, he will not be able to use that to cross examine him. and to you still want to be represented by somebody who is essentially handcuffed from to win that portion of the cross-examination? and then it will be up to walt to make the decision on that. so the more people you represent, the more risks there are of conflicts like that. but ultimately, there was some kind of thing the church can go through and decide his it's something that's wave-able, and up to the defendant, do you want to wave it? >> what would you do? >> if i were who? >> if you were walt nauta? it depends, right? but if you were walt nauta, would you still want to be represented by stan woodward? >> here's the thing. while stan may not be able to cross examine himself, his local council can. as long as you have another attorney representing you who doesn't have the conflict, and i've done this in cases before, we had one conflicted lawyer, when that witness gets up on the stand, that lawyer goes and sits behind. so that is something that certainly it will be up to walled as to how he believes and trusts stand.
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doing that portion of the cross-examination, and then it'll be up to walt to make a decision on that. so, you know, the more people you represent, the more risk that there are -- that there is of conflicts like that. but ultimately it is the kind of thing the judge can go through and decide is this something that's waivable and up to the defendant you want to waive it. >> what would you do? >> if i were who? >> if you were walt nauta. >> or the judge. >> i mean given the defense. if you were walt nauta would you still want to be represented by sam woodward? >> while sam may not be able to cross examine yucil, his local counsel can. as long as you have an attorney representing you who doesn't have a conflict, and i've done cases before where you have one conflicted lawyer where when
trophy, a star witness at this point. do you think stan woodward has too many clients and maybe convicted here? >> that is a relatively extended motion in multi defendant cases, and the second circuit we call it a -- motion. it's not necessarily always used to conflict and attorney out, but rather to make sure that if there are conflicts, that the defendant fully understands those conflicts, and no one will wave them. for example, what will be asked by the federal judge, do you understand that any confidential information that mr. woodward got from mr. to faris, he will not be able to use that to cross examine him. and to you still want to be represented by somebody who is essentially handcuffed from to win that portion of the cross-examination? and then it will be up to walt to make the decision on that. so the more people you
brought to the attention of the court by special prosecutor jack smith -- based in florida now against donald j trump, walt nauta and carlos nevada, in motion filed today he said today who was appointed by donald trump that walt not as defense council stanley woodward has divided loyalties in the case, because the new star witness for the prosecution used to be represented by stanley woodwork, who will have to cross examine that witness at the trial. jack smith wrote an attorney who cross-examined former or present client inherently encounters divided loyalties. the motion tells the judge that stanley woodward used to represent trump employee for,
doing. as i continue to stress, they have been really pushing the narrative that this is all political, and they feel stronger in that argument, especially lately, given the fact that he is up in the polls. that recent polling has him leading the gop field and not by a little bit but by a big margin. i want to point out one thing here. i mentioned who was getting off the plane. one person i didn't mention originally is walt. he was seen getting off the plane with trump with they landed in d.c. >> very interesting. all right, kristen holmes, traveling inside the trump motorcade, which is experiencing d.c. traffic. even former presidents, when they drive, have to experience d.c. traffic. dana bash, charactkristen holme mentioning there that donald trump is doing better in the polls, and i suspect he's referring mainly to the
information and also when they want to put pressure on someone. and here if you are walt or carlos de oliveira, you're looking over at this guy who has not been indicted. he's mentioned in the indictment, he's part of the scheme to try and cover up and destroy the tapes and the evidence, but he hasn't been charged. what that's signaling i think is that the prosecutor is saying, look, you cooperate with the government, you give us and tell us what you are know, we're going to treat you differently. that's what we call flipping and that seems like what's going on here. he may not have flipped. we don't have any information that he's formally cooperated but it's a signal from jack smith that said we've got the goods on you, donald trump, we've got you dead to rights in a bunch of different ways. obviously trump has the presumption of innocence and he'll mount a defense, but so far he hasn't mounted any actual legal defense. >> david, what is your view, the
oliveira urged another employee to scrub the footage, saying, quote, the boss, trump, wanted the server deleted. de oliveira is accused of lying to investigators about moving classified documents at the resort along with another trump aide walt nauta, also charged in this case. the dime says the desire to have the footage deleted was part of an effort to conceal crucial information from the fbi. de oliveira is due in federal court tomorrow morning. trump also says the footage was voluntarily handed over. that's also not true. it was subpoenaed. and last hour i spoke to former trump attorney tim parlatore and he questions how much prosecutors really value that surveillance footage. >> what is it actually going to show of carlos and walt actually moving these boxes? it's something that i'm surprised that they haven't