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they come from old nationstate adversaries who had seemingly learned from the change brought at the end of 20 century and who understand that the only way to defeat us is by using irregular or indirect means of attack. did the assassination of general soleimani fit into that theory? >> guest: it did absolutely because of who he was, his unofficial title. thank you, fred me on this incredible show, was the shadow commanded why? because he wasn't a major general in the regular army that was commanding divisions in a normal battle where you face off in the theater combat, everything is above board and you know what everybody is. this isn't a battle of the bulge. this isn't the first gulf war. this is an individual who used forces and six cutlass occluding and u.s. comeud in that recent attempt against the saudi ambassador to wage irregular warfare using means that the weaker power has developed against a far more powerful apps are like united states. america still longer a superpower as a french analyst waited not too long ago. we are a hyperpower. nobody can come close a to us im not convinced us to get with 12 nuclear aircraft carriers. we have more special forces and most countries actually have soldiers. how do you take on and nations powerful as as? you use indirect means, , proxi, terrorism, irregular warfare. soleimani was the commander of that kind of warfare for the largest state-sponsored terrorism today, the islamic republic of iran. >> host: you alt-right in why we fight the we're not interventionist but not isolationist.. >> guest: when it comes to this president, yes. as president trump's former strategist, as his advisor when he was candidate trump it was not hard decision for me to agree to work for you because i realize this is a man who is proud of this country, proud of being an american but has had enough of what he called stupid wars, these ideas you can call the neoconservative, neoliberal but america can go to the middle east and central asia, can create democracies at the end of the gun barrel. he doesn't wish to change other peoples regimes but when there is a threat as there was this weekend to our nation, to our citizens, he takes decisive action to i was talking to members of the administration the day after the attack, theni strike against soleimani and they said the presidentth receit quote exquisite intelligence although not only where he was but that is intent in coming weeks to execute attacks not only an iraq that syria and libya which would have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of use americans. when president trump received intelligence like that he doesn't talk about red lines. he takes o action and when the most famous man in the world is now dead. >> susan rice, the former national security adviser in the obama administration in the new york times writes, the escalade tour recycle began in may 2018 when president trump recklessly ignored the advice of his national security team and saw that has the opposition of his allies in unilaterally withdrawing from the iran nuclear deal despite iran's full adherence to its terms. >> full adherence? has susan rice become a comedian? that is beyond the pale. the escalation began in 1979 when americans were taken hostage for over a year in the radiant embassy. the escalation began when general soleimani and there's a report that general soleimani was the man responsible for the deaths of at least 603 american servicemen and women in iraq. if one of your viewers sees a veteran with missing limbs today. if you're traveling through an airport and you see somebody was on prosthetic limbs, lost an arm because of an ied. it is in all likelihood, a result of aid that iran gave the militias in iraq that that person is now limitless and that's where in the escalation began to i'm so happy that when i was in the white house, the president asked me, what do we do about the iran deal? i said, kill it. this is a deal that when he was inked, the then secretary of state john kerry said openly, that we know some of these phones, more than $140 billion - - some of these funds will be used to sponsor terrorism. there was a cop in dc a few years ago who was sympathetic to ices. he wanted to send them $500. he was doing so through an fbi agent that he didn't know that the individual is now sitting in a federal super max prison because he is guilty of a federal crime of material support to terrorism. for $500. if you are i did that, we'd be in prison. the obama administration released more than $140 billion which we know in part was used to fund the operations and the terrorism commanded by major general soleimani.>> about 7000 troops. 5000 currently in iraq but the iraqi parliament has voted to get rid of foreign military. >> the middle east is not a problem we can solve. the president understands that the metric, measurement, the yardstick is what are the national interests? his first reaction, the president's first gut instinct is can we bring the boys home? the boys and girls home, from wherever they are. afghanistan, iraq, you name it. this is a businessman. a pragmatist who understands that it's not only not our job to change other countries to be reflections of ourselves, but not feasible in places like afghanistan or iraq. as far as i'm concerned and this is why i wrote my second book, why we fight. after i left the white house. for the same reasons we deployed in october 2001, to make sure these territories are never, ever again used to execute mass casualty attacks on the soil of the united states or against our citizens around the world. that's our reason for being there and that we don't with a much smaller footprint than under either the bush or for bomber administrations. >> let's go back to syria this past october. american troops had one purpose to destroy the caliphate of isis. >> one of the things i'm proud of, i don't know if you recall, in the second obama administration, america was told ices, it's a jv team. you don't have to take it seriously. then, once we had withdrawn from iraq under obama's white house and the caliphate was reestablished. it was reestablished for the first time since it had been dissolved by moustafa in 1924. then suddenly obama changed his tune and said isis, islamic state is a threat we have to come to terms with. it's a generational threat. our children, grandchildren will be dealing with ices. when we came into the white house, we had a very different vision. i credit steve bannon. he said, no, ices can be destroyed if we get out of the way of our military. these crippling rules of engagement. we had fighter pilots. we had people in the air over isis convoys with live video fees being told, you cannot take out that convoy. the lawyers got in the way. the tactical interference by the obama administration has to be dismantled. that's why steve said to the present, we have a simple target.we have to have a talking point that everyone can understand and it is the destruction of the physical caliphate. when we unleashed our military. when president trump says i have your back that you can do this. we destroyed the caliphate in five months. something we had been told it was a generational threat was gone. do you remember the front pages of the newspapers. the decapitation of stay with us journalists. that is all gone. why? because we have finally a decisive commander-in-chief in the white house. - - said elections have consequences. do they ever. >> your first book, defeating g hall. the first row about president obama, did the president keenness of - - represent a bigger threat to america and a greater commitment to winning the war against the jihadists them. strangely enough, it didn't. as one general shared with me, president obama and his team see the connecticut options such as drone strikes as the quote on quote, easy button. the thinking has become - - logo. then we will prevent the next 9/11. unfortunately, you write, this logic is not only simplistic, it is dangerous. isn't that how we took out general soleimani? >> right but what was missing under the obama administration is that the idea, not the idea, the other out policy platform that - - is irrelevant and terrorism is the result of poverty or disenfranchisement. in the beginning of the obama administration, john brennan had become the president cia director said, terrorism is the result of upstream factors. poverty and lack of education. if that were true, half of india would be terrorist paid half of china would be terrorists. as a result as that analysis, the obama administration defaulted to this policy of when we find the bad guys, we kill them and we will win. it was wackamole. - - he would decide which terrorist we should kill today. that is sheer insanity. when we arrived in the white house, we had 420 obama holdovers in the national security council. do you know how many worked under the security council under eisenhower? 25. no one can tell me eisenhower's globe was less complicated. and under ronald reagan was only 75 individuals. the made what should have been strategic, a tactical function. most important of all, they missed the ideology. engineering students don't become suicide bombers on 9/11 because they're poor or uneducated. these are people with mas. the head of i kinda - - al qaeda is a - -. this administration sees it very differently. if you want to understand where were going, read the president's speech from reality. read his incredible speech in wars --warsaw. it is an evil ideology just as fascism was an ideological threat. the soviet union was an ideological threat. >> when you look at the newspapers and hear the podcasts about what happened to general soleimani, there is a prediction that this could lead to world war iii. >> it's quite stunning how in the last 72 hours, world war iii, # world war iii was trending on social media. what world do these people live in? do they really - - once a but it comes up with a criticism of an action, the best place to start is to ãtake politics out of it. what is the individual critic ã they are saying we should have killed general soleimani? how is that better? a man whose hands are drenched in the blood of at least 603 u.s. servicemen and women who has been responsible for the maiming of thousands of others. who we knew was on the cusp of operating operations that would have killed hundreds of u.s. citizens. leaving that man along the microphone to do his business is better in what world? anybody who is not cheering for when obama killed osama bin laden. when we took out - - and isn't cheering when a murderous incarnate evil individual like general soleimani is killed, they need to examine their conscience. i don't care what your politics are, what god you pray to, i don't care if you're an atheist who you go to bed with point i don't care what your skin color is. you need to examine your conscience if you think that person didn't deserve to become a pile of ashes. >> sebastian gorka, how did you get to know president trump? next i thought i was at the pinnacle of my career. >> i have special regard for - - i was in my third year teaching at marine corps university. i get a phone call from corey lewandowski who i didn't know from a hole in the ground. he said i'm the campaign manager for candidate trump. he said, candidate trump is preparing for the gop debate on national security. would i consider meeting with candidate trump and perhaps help prepare him for that debate? i said sure. i flew to new york and went to trump tower up to then candidate trump's office. i sat down with him closer than we sure? are at his desk. we had this incredible new sky discussion on security issues while the civil war, right up to isis and nuclear weapons. halfway through he did a classic - - he stopped the can discussion dead. looked at - - he stopped the discussion dead. he said i like this guy, let's hire him. i prepared policy briefs for his debate and eventually became part of his transition team and became part of the - - once they were only two candidates (i became part of the official presidential transition team and was offered the job of - - of defense strategy. >> you lasted how long will. >> seven months. >> why just seven months? >> you have to ask steve bannon that but i was on vacation in new england. when a friend texted me and said, have you seen the news? i said, no. i'm cut off from the world. i like not to be plugged in. i went to an area where i could check the internet. i saw that steve bannon had resigned out of the blue. he was my immediate boss. i was deputy assistant of strategy. steve was the chief strategist bid without telling me, steve - - [indiscernible]. it had become clear to me in the months prior that the new security advisor h.r. mcmaster was not a fan of mine. i was not on the national security council but i was always present for key meetings regarding isis, china and russia. interestingly, i was being left off the invitation for the last five meetings. i knew i was being boxed out. then my - - resigns and i had a tough decision. my wife and i thought, do i stay in the white house picking up a pretty good federal salary paid for by the taxpayers to be consistently boxed out by somebody who has issues with me. what do i support the agenda from the outside. as i wrote my letter to the president which is available at www.breitbart.com. the anti- maga forces are in ascendance in the white house. i'd like to serve you on the outside. i think i can better do so. the president agreed and now i have a national radio show called america first. more than 1 million followers on social media. my decision was shaped by the belief that where i said is not important. it's the agenda. it's making america great again. back to that place that reagan called the shining city on the hill. and i could best do that on the outside. it's worked out in the last two years. >> in your most recent book, the war for america's soul, you have an interview with president trump as well.>> we went back as part of my new book. we went back to the oval office and i sat down for an interview on how the last three years have progressed. that is the bonus chapter in our book. >> sebastian gorka is our guest this month on "in depth". we invite one author on to discuss his or her body of four. 202 is the area code if you'd like to participate today. 748- 8200 if you live in the eastern or central time zone. 748-8201 if you live in mountain or pacific. so that's only for text messages, 748- 8003. we will put all those up and begin taking those in just a few minutes. you talked about how you met president trump and how he hired you basically on the spot. when you go to your wikipedia page. >> that's your first mistake. >> it says various national security scholars and academic and policymaking circles have characterized sebastian gorka as fringe. >> there's an individual called - - another successful wall street journal journalist. when he first labeled me as fringe. he called me up and laughed and said, if you're writing about the person in the white house as strategist of the president and you're calling him friends. perhaps you are the fringe individual. because who's in the white house? as soon as i became the face of the administration, the first executive order we dropped was the travel ban. it wasn't being well received. so i spoke to sean spicer and steve bannon as soon as the criticism - - i said i've done a bit of media. can i help explain this to the american people? why this makes america safe. so they threw me into the media. as soon as i became a public server get, the attacks began and the most - - i thought i was ready. i was cynical enough living in dc for a decade. but i wasn't ready for the - - launched against me. not only my credentials. i understand, i'm a surrogate for the president. as soon as i became the face of the administration, the next weeks and months, people who call themselves journalists didn't just attack me, peter. they attacked my wife. was a political appointee. they attacked my dead mother's reputation. and then they wrote a piece about my 18-year-old son. high school aged son. in which the title of the piece described my 18-year-old son as a traitor. something's happened in this city and it's not healthy. it's fundamentally un-american. you can have political differences but to call yourself a journalist and to go after somebody's family the way they've gone after barron trump. melania, eric, don junior. that's why wikipedia unfortunately, despite its influence is one of the worst sources out there. as soon as things were said about me about my nationalistic pretensions. my racism and so forth but none of which were true. i asked to change those entries with fact-based sources. what did wikipedia do? lock to the page so it couldn't be changed. that's just fundamentally wrong. >> is that a common practice by wikipedia? >> yes. and their line is if they see lots of back-and-forth between people were putting negative and someone is trying to correct them. if it gets to a certain fever pitch, they lock it and nothing can change. >> it says following the 9/11 attacks, general - - sebastian gorka became a public figure in hungary that failed to obtain security clearance to serve on a committee. >> i served on the committee. classic example. she's - - passed by the independent expert to investigate the biggest scandal in post-communist hungary. just weeks after the election, there was a front-page story in a conservative newspaper with a photo of a document from the cold war. which have the name and rank of a secret police officer who shared the same name as the newly elected prime minister. when hungary found out that the new prime minister was actually a former secret police undercover officer under the dark days of communism, a committee was impaneled to investigate that scandal. and i became one of two independent experts on that committee. >> it goes on to say as you were regarded as is by working for british counterintelligence. >> fake news is not a uniquely american thing. whether it's benjamin netanyahu or - - in the uk or myself. i served in the military intelligence reserves of the british army when i was in college but that hardly makes me james bond. >> sebastian gorka is our guest. his most recent book is america's fight for its - - the war for america's soul. >> had to ask my daughter's permission to write a chapter and she cleared it for me. my daughter graduated from trinity college last may. and it had been a tough four years for her. she was involved in the accident that made the national news just before the term began. the semester began. there were children in a college building and they were on the deck of the building. on the third floor. my daughter stepped out onto that deck and as soon as she stepped out, all three decks disconnected from the building and collapsed on each other with children on each deck. luckily, nobody was killed but very serious injuries. my daughter suffered nerve injuries in her legs. she was on crutches for weeks. despite that, she had four different jobs in college. and then she was invited to join the - - institute. created by a handful of conservative professors. they wanted to celebrate and propagate the values of judeo-christian civilization. western civilization as churchill did. that was the last straw i guess for the social justice warriors. two weeks before the graduation, they took my daughter's photograph and on social media and on posters around campus, they put her name, and underneath, this is the face of white supremacy. why? because she was part of the institute. because she was my daughter, despite the fact this girl had helped ethnic women, minority women when she was doing a research project from those who have been abused financially by their partners. their husbands. when it came to her graduation, i was very, very, trepidations. i didn't want to cause a scene. i knew there would be parents there that weren't trumpet supporters. so when i arrived on that sunny day, i didn't sit with my family. ... i decide to make my way back to my wife and my mother-in-law, my sister-in-law, my daughter, and in the throng i was separated from everyone, and a little slip of a girl walked up to me -- and this is the meat of the opening of the war for america's soul. a little girl walked up to me, maybe 19 years old, maybe 85 pounds dripping wet and looked me in the eye and said are you sebastian gorka that worked for donald j. trump in the white house? i smiled, extended my hand said, yes, that's me. and here i have to edit things. in that case, f, you fing nazi. the freest nation in the world, do that to me in front of hundreds of witnesses. once i found my composure i said aisle not going to let this lie, not with my familiar by brown, i took this little back their family. her mother, grandmother standing and i looked her in the face and i said, who the hell do you think you are? my parents as children suffered under nazi occupation in central europe. after that my father under communist dictatorship was arrested and tortured and imprisoned. who the hell do you think you are to call me a nazi? the girl's mother was clearly shocked and jaw dropped and said, did you really say that to this man? and this is why i wrote the war for america's soul. little girl, american born and bred, living in freest nation in the world, with a grin, from the joker in batman, looked at her mother and me and said, yes, i did. that's frightening. it's frightening that according to the victims of communism foundation, 72% of the american millenials would like to live in a communist or socialist country. this after the fact that we know, if you read the black book of communism, at least 100 million human beings consider exterminated in the name of karl mar, and his communist ideology so i spent more than 20 years in the national security domain. i specialized in nonstate actors, irregular warfare and the strategy of jihaddist, counterterrorism, and now the last the years have been a -- the scales have fallen from my eyes and i realize that perhaps the greatest threat we face is the falsification of history and indoctrination of a whole generation of americans. >> host: rules for radicals appear in war for america's soul, rule number one, live by the rule of personal destruction. treat your adversary is a inhuman, deserving zero respect or compassion. >> guest: they've used it very effectively. the democratic party, the so-called squad of four horsewomen of the democrat ocasio-cortez. nancy pelosi, saul olin ski the most influential individual with regard to american politics that nobody talks about. i reproduce elements of hillaryy clinton's dissertation from wellesley that she wrote on saul olin ski. there is only the five -- the original dissertation i reproduce elements of it in the apen dis. when you see the three years and donald trump and most -- since 1948, who has moved our embassy to jerusalem, recognized jerusalem after 23 years of broken promises, who has the closest relationship you can imagine with the prime minister of israel to call that man an anti-semite, a bigot, a ray this, same person who affected prescribe reform for minorities, who has create the lowest unemployment for hispanics and blacks in america since record keeping began. that's took ticks. it's the triangulation we were taught by andrew breitbart is what the left does. you separate, isolate, and destroy. it's the politics of personal destruction. politics has -- you remember the puppeteered of the american revolution and going back citizen buzz never to this degree. we didn't target children. we didn't target the presidents of children weapon didn't go after the first ladies because they were wearing the wrong shoes as they get on the helicopter. that is why when people talk about trump derangingment syndrome, there is some substance to that because the level of the vituperation, the level of demeaning the other person to a point at which you deny their humanity, that's very, very unhealthy. that's disturbing. you see that in proto to tall tear ran regimes. look at soviet russia, if you look at the 30s in germany, when you start to dehumanize your political opponent and not to discuss policy issues, that way leads the road to the labor camps and the gulag and that's why i am convinced of the fact that sadly, the democrat party of scoop jackson, john f. kennedy is dead and has been taken over by extremists, by radicals. hough is that you have avowed anti-semites saying, israel is evil, it's hypnotized the west. omar tweeted two days ago that we -- the president trump murdered a foreign government official. what? soleimani was a mass murderer. is good-bells, him her a foreign government official to the woman? we're leaving in dark, dark times but as ronald reagan taught is on the right dish consider myself to be a reagan order, we are happy warriors. we are fueled by love, love of country, love of liberty, and what i see on the left -- that's another reason i wrote the war for america's soul -- is a movement that has become defined, fed, fueled, by hatred, perhaps hatred of self. might be some psychological underpins but hate trough what they think america is. which is not some imperialist colonial force but the freest nation that has helped others in their freedom. >> host: 202-748-8200 in the east and central time zones. 202-748-8201 for pacific and mountain time zones we'll school from the text number and social media sites let's given win brian in ooscoda, massachusetts. >> caller: thank you, sebastian. good to listen to you. have a top secret clearance compartmentalize i. i'd like to talk about mr. sean henry at the crowd strike. the head of cyber security under robert mueller. now he got this grubstake, his big money now from pinkus, a lawyer's outfit that hates russia and doubled down and got a ton of moneyly to timothy geithner, the head of cephus and approved uranium 1. i think i see you may know where i'm going with this. >> host: where are you going here, brian? >> caller: well, it's all right there and i think send past ya -- >> host: let's see if he does and get a response. >> guest: this is perhaps one of the greatest ironies of the last three years, whenever the democrat party, the left, the fake news industrial complex, has tried to manufacture charges against the president, whether it was regards to russian collusion or whether it is extortion and bribery in the ukraine, every single time it has redowned back on to them also my good friend, chris blanch, who hosts the morning show here in d said it's reminiscent of the final scene in the hunt for red october when the bad soviet sub commander launches the missiles and thinking he will sink the submarine but theer to toe pea heed toes circle be a and can sink his own vessel. the fact that hillary clinton and the dmc paid a former foreign secret agent to gin up a dossier of propaganda to use in a secret -- and then to come after us for connections to russia and it's the sweetest most delicious of ironies. the fact that they then accuse the president of some kind of malfeasance with ukraine in a phone call we have all seen the transcript of in which there wassing in untoward, when hunter biden's son was taking home between 50,000 and $80,000 per month from a corrupt company that was investigated by the ukraine in which his father is point person for the obama administers demanded the ukrainians fire that prosecutor before he gave them a billion dollars. all of these things circle back like a boomerang and you're right in one thing. crowd strike. crowd strike is is the oning the the democrats and the dnc and hilary and comey and brennan don't wish you to talk about. the idea that a company that google has great interest in, that was working in the ukraine, was connected to the dnc, we need to get to the bottom of that, but if you believe in justice, i have good news for you, william barr, john bar h-m-m are on the case and unflappable and they are unstoppable, so stay tuned. >> host: this tweet for you, sebastian, how much of an influence is claus' book on war part of your own philosophy. >> guest: great question. one of my three favorite books. i break it down a great deal in my second book, why we fight. if you really are interested in national security and strategy, there are two classic authors you must about familiar with. klauswitzs on war, and the art of war because they compliment each other. never meant to be publicked during the author's life. it was published posthumously by his widow but it is the most influential text on how the west does national security, how the west failing system of nation states thinks but national security and why it's important. not always right about the concept of friction, center of gravity, fog of war, are eternally applicable. san sewage is i important but a is breaksout our our your euro centric way of thinking and illustrates how other nations and other cull toward have different ways about thinking with regard to national security and to strategy and sun su is singh until a reading to understand what china is doing against us today. even what iran and russia are doing. why? not because russia or iran are asia but because sun su is the foundation of irregular warfare, of the indirect approach, how you take down a more powerful enemy than yourself. so, if you want to start your library on national security, start with those two and then build it from there. >> host: bob is in michigan and you're on with author sebastian gorka. >> caller: a real honor, sir. something that been bothering me that has been missed or at least not brought up and i think that it's that putin has played the democrat party to do his bidding. if the democrats would have co lessed around the president instead of attacking him, this -- all-this stuff we have been going through may have never occurred but he knew how stupid these people are and played them like a fiddle. >> guest: there was a phrase from at the cold war, useful idiots. it really is a case of that. when you have -- just the most egregious example. when you ha have a former cia director, john brennan, obama's director of the cia, on national television, not long after he leaves office, use the word treasonous, to describe at the president of the united states, vladimir putin is laughing into hills cheerios. you're doing -- whether or not brennan is being paid by the kremlin is irrelevant. he is doing vladimir putin's bidding. the idea that a president like donald trump, who has green lit the targeting of more than 200 russian mercenaries in syria by our forces, man who instead of sending blankets and mres to ukraine like obama did, sent javelin antitank missiles and an individual who is instigating the toughest sanction regime against moscow, that person is treasonous and a puppet of putin? they have returned a massive, massive return on their investment, even when they didn't pay these individuals. so, it's sad that a party that was so in the tank for the live -- ted kennedy, ted kennedy, had negotiations with the kremlin, trying to elicit their assistance to undermine ronald reagan's re-election. that democrat party that was always on the side of the left, on the side of useful idiots, the fellow travelers, now they're accusing donald trump and conservatives, truly beyond the pale. >> host: and from sebastian gorka's 2018 book while we fight. russia does not share america's interests by face its own jihadi threat from chechneya bit that does nose mean it is or can be our friend. then calm from glen in freeland, michigan. >> caller: thank you very much for taking the call, and we have had three calls in a row now from basically the same area in michigan. anyway, i just want to say something fast about the media and the left that dr. negotiating could -- dr. gorka was talking about april. amazing those people have more respect for the iranian government of holocaust denies and terrorists than they do for president trump. it is really incredible. my question, though, is about syria. he talked about how the atrocities in syria, by isis, have stopped, but the vast majority of syrians would tell him that those kind of atrocities and worse are still going on under the assad dictatorship, and that things like isis came about, one, because assad released lot of people from jail and let them thrive so he could set himself up as a big terrorist fighter and also there was no alternative. obama chickened out on his red line and basically nobody came to help them. everybody in the west and all that condemned assad, but they basically let him and iran, soleimani helped kill hundreds and thousands of syrians and helped assad commit war crimes. >> glen, a lot of geopolitics going on there and i just want to add to what you said, we have the kurd situation as well. >> guest: yes. to glen's first point, it is truly saddening. i'm now proud american. i became american seven years ago. the idea that we have leading figures in the media with national platforms, who host their show the day that robert mueller says there was no russian collusion, and these individuals -- rachel maddow have their eyes tear up when the tell us there is no proof the president is a traitor to his country. that's unconscionable. she is sad our president isn't a puppet? that's insane. and when nobody on twitter -- not a famous person. an average american, tweets out a still shot, a screen capture, of rachel maddow's eye tearing up and that individual is suspended from twitter? where is the sanity. the first amount. with ward to sir you you're right. isis, despicable evil, an organization that had not only beheaded people and tortured people, burned them alive,ed a slave markets, selling women and children as sex slaves, but that doesn't mean the other actors are good guys. assad, his father may have been worse, his father was a mass murderer of incredible proportions, just look up the siege of hamas in the 80s but his son is not much better. he is also a dictator. the prior to this administration, i can tell you somebody who worked for at the president, not that we're going to fix syria or recreate it or have regime change but to stop as much of the bloodshed as we and can that's why when i was in the white house, remember the mar-a-lago schmidt with the chinese premiere, xi jinping, over job chat cake the president went out, talked to the national security couple their join chief cozy decided -- a proud moment for me and us in the white house -- when we had the intelligence -- can't discuss the nature it is a incontrovertible -- that assad was going to use chemical weapons again against unarmed women and children, the president took decisive action and launched those 50 cruise missiles against the assad regime to send a very clear signal etch don't talk about red lines in the trump administration. we act. whether it's al al-baghdadi, ase man any or the murderous assad regime. >> host: what but the kurds. the line that at the trump administration has abandoned the kurds. >> guest: i am absolutely fine with capitol hill having a discussion about the kurds. should we help them more or should we help them more? but look at the -- the absolute hypocrisy that the president with one drone strike is being accused of declaring war against iran, after 603 americans have been killed by this man, but they had issues with him not going to war with a nato ally, turkey, as they came across the border into north syria? have who common sense, have some standards, maintain some consistency in your argumentation, at the end of the day, the kurds have killed a lot of bad guys. why? because isis was as much an enemy of theirs as they were of ours, but at the president's primary responsibility, the one he takes more seriously than nigglings is to protect americans, not kurds. and they are not even treaty ally is. not part of the north atlantic treaty. not article five defense requirement that apply toy kurdish nation. if congress wishes to make it so, have that discussion. let's have the democrats argue that a nation whose population is dis -- dispersed among five different countries in middle east should become a treaty ally with all the requirements that that imposes upon us? okay, but you have to make that argument to the american people because three of the reasons this president was elected, beyond the immigration reform and the border and the crippling ol' our economy under regulation by president obama, the fir most important reason was to end what my old boss called the endless, stupid wars and the idea you're going to send more americans to die and defend people who we don't have a treaty obligation to? okay, have that discussion. but until you have that discussion, our obligation is to o our u.s. service men and leave thing to u.s. servicemen right there in front of turkish armor erred personnel carriers and tanks coming across the border would have been absolutely reckless. we didn't bow tray anybody. we represented american interests first. >> host: brian in merchantville, new jersey. go ahead, brian. >> caller: yes, sir. i just want to ask you, first of all, just want to say how shocked i am the thing that have happened to you and your family and trump and his family is unbelievable. i want to ask, the house seemed in such a hurry go toe get these article of impeachment to senate and now they're playing this game. i want to get your assessment on that and also your assessment on the middle east and the world also it relates to the killing g of general soleimani and this other gentleman. >> guest: with regards to impeachment, how is it that nancy pelosi herself and her democrat colleagues lectured us, for weeks on illinois, that this is an issue of such urgency the president must be removed from office, must be impeachment it and was so urgent that she didn't want to forward the articles of impeachment or the names of the trial managers to the senate? it demonstrates this is a share rad charade. a farce. nancy pelosi lost control of the democratic party. the squad, the four horse men of the democratic ocasio-cortez are in control. she is booked into a corner, the person described as the arch strategist, the vote counter, pelosi is out of control and has no control. look at her press conferences. can't string a cogent sentence together and when a very, very reputable reporter, james rosen, asks a completely justified question, she calls him mr. g.o.p. talking points? that's not a woman in control. it will pass to the senate. the fact that you have one of the democrat star witnesses recently write an opinion piece that the president of the united states has not been impeached unless the articles are forwarded to the senate is damaging enough. what haves nexts i said it in the white house and said it since i left the white house, donald trump became president despite the g.o.p., not thanks to thegap, i don't trust the establish. g.o.p. in the last three years. they have not had the president's back in the house. a very small group of people in the freedom caucus, matt gates, deven newspapers anyone, jim jordan, that's have really supported the president. in he senate? even lindsey graham goes back and fortunate mitch mcconnell has an amazing on judges but the maga agent is much larger that judge size don't expect a robust, don't expected to ail hunter biden, joe bead bide, the so-called whistle-blower, and adam shift himself, it will be an abbreviated trail. milk toast but the president will not be removed from office. with regard to the middle east, what happens next, if anybody tells you that they know the future of the middle east, they're a liar and probably got to bridge to sell you as well. all i do noes very, very clear message has been sent, not only to the irgc, the republican guard, the quds force and the mullahs in iran, with the hell fire strike on soleimani, very, very robust message has been sent to all of our enemies and adversaries, whether they're in pyongyang, moscow or bejing. >> host: during your time in the white house dud you no she so-called whistle-blower. >> i. >> i had no interaction with him. he was in the building but no interaction. >> host: this e-mail, mr. gore could, why is trump such a danger to the career politics and career bureaucrats, military complex, do you think we need term limits? that's from dan. >> guest: i think we do. i am not sure the hangman will hang himself in terms of changing the political system. and enduing term limits. why is donald trump such a threat to establishment? nobody else is. he owes nothing to anybody. in 2016, america did something they'd ever ever done before since the revolutionary war, 63 million americans chose an individual who had never served in public office before. from george washington to barack obama, every single president for 44 presidents was either a form are senator, congressman, governor, or general. like eisenhower or washington. we elect for the first time somebody who is unbeholding to anyone. nobody owns donald trump. not big fa ma, not tobacco, not the unions and therefore he is a danger to all vested interests on right and left? when i came into the white house for the first four our five week is refused to use the phrase destate. thought it had a little tinge of tin foil hattery. but then i saw it with my own eyes, at meet these national security council, classified meetings of the top bureaucrats in america. we go into a skiff and be talking about china or iran and we would have the cia, the nsa, the joint chiefs, and i'd sit there as a political appointee for an hour and a half, and not one of these bureaucrats mentioned either the president's name or what the president wished to achieve with extraordinary that issue and it was left up to me time and again after an hour and a half. the person with the strange accent to say, gentlemen, ladies you do know what the commander in chief said yesterday in riyadh. we to little we what sid at isis or china. can we do what he actually wants america to do? that shot not be the case but that's at the deep that should not be the case but that's the deep state. that's colonel, don't call me, mr. alexander vindman when he testified in uniform and dress blues, he actually use these words, in '05 i was concerned by the presence phone call and i felt it my duty to defend the inter-agency consensus from the president. hang on a minute, colonel vindman. when i went into the voting booth in 2016 i didn't see three onboxes, hillary clinton, donald trump, interagency consensus. who the a hell do you think you are? foreign policy national security is the president domain. it's not even congresses. it's not that you pelosi. he's commander-in-chief. you to decide about the man who has been chosen by 63 million? who elected you? nobody. that's the y deep state. when you have eu ambassador sondland, the star witnessss of the democratic impeachment finally get asked by congressman, is it true come at the end of the day, is it true that donald trump range you up and said these words, i want nothing, there must be no quid pro quo? and sheepishly, ambassador sondland goes, yes, he did. the congressman says, why did you not mention that in your 23 page opening statement? i ran out of time. did you? help. you're the deep state. that's why donald trump is a threat to the establishment. .. what's so wrong with the course that they are leading us down. >> is a fabulous question. each one of my books closed with the chapter address to the reader about what you can do to make a difference. if you read them, it's always addressed to year. two things, number one, you matter. every single american matter. if you live in california or massachusetts, you still matter. the age of trump, anything is possible. number one, be part of the solution. i travel, i speak and i don't care how old you are or technologically inept you deem yourself to be, if you are on social media talking truth, you are part of theol problem, not e solution. if you want instagram, even if you're just reposting the president, the reason he has 16 million followers because heum jumped over the heads of the fake news. andrew, more journalistic capacity in terms of video and audio than a whole truckload of journalists years ago. use it. when you see lies, corruption, you see the needles on the street in san francisco, you see the homeless and conditions in baltimore and detroit, photograph and post it. spread the word of truth. be on social media every single day. at least once. second, when it comes to your specific question, how do we inform the evils of socialism? 72% of millennial's believe socialism and communism is a good thing. t sweden and denmark social stat states, stop calling my country socialist. we are free market capitalist. every single nation since 1848 the communist manifesto, every single nation is tried socialism or communism but to get off them and have failed. now it's going to succeed here? at what cost? 100 million pet? how many hundreds of millions should die? i use stories and write book, my family's experience, somebody who escaped vietnam, why did they come here? why did they not escape venezuela? democracy and capitalism is the most powerful liberating force in human history that created more prosperity any other ideology and for thee gets out there, the most powerful tool i've seen, a testament to the power of the truth is by my colleague, my fellow radio host, his six minute videos for the youth are incredible. there's a reason youtube and google are trying to ban them and demagnetized them. watch it spread. >> sebastian gorka newest book, or for america's soul. did you know american writer from communist tyranny and howk would you assess his work and philosophy? he died last year at 94. >> a great name, i never met him.r >> your book, "defeating jihad", you close with an appendix, a memo from february 22nd, 1946 and in this memo, the author apologizes in advance for this bargaining of telegraphic s.annel. [laughter] >> i spent almost a decade teaching u.s. military and one of the things i taught was a document now thoughts declassified, nfc 68 top-secret strategy for how to defeat the soviet union. it's the textbook study of how to do strategy rights. withdrawn heading with george kennan in the groundwork, that prepared the field for nfc 68. it's incredible, it's just a few months of the blockade, we had everything we needed to defeat the soviet union. it became the strategy for the next 40 years. george kennan intimately understood. he'd been studying pressure for years and years so he understood the importance of ideology. when it was not made an existential strip threat. you have to know your enemies. then you have to know why you are fighting. this is the think we've forgotten most often after 9/11. who we are and why we are fighting. it's remarkable they reproduce that. it begins by quoting our constitution. quoting the declaration of independence. we don't do that anymore. we haven't done that for years and years until the trump administration. remind ourselves what are our common principles? then we have a very, very clear plan for how to defeat the soviet union explicitly built upon the beliefs. we must strengthen and will create it and collapse. it's our military consecration we wish to have with the soviet union. it's for freedom, democracy, market principles to be demonstrated as so much more valuable than anything he ever wrote about. >> james is calling in from washington. >> i was just wondering, what is the alternative motive for cia director john brennan to go after donald trump? i met ceo of virtual assistants inc., james montgomery and had a two hour conversation with him. on their contract to smuggle heroin out of afghanistan. i was wondering if in. could be the reason. >> i have no knowledge of that. i can possibly notice motives are. if you read about who this man was, was a failure in the cia. before that, just before he was interviewed, cnn has this report. just before he was interviewed, john brennan voted for the communist party of the cia at the height of the cold war. he reported for the communist president. then he wasas hired by the cia. how that happened to begin with is the first question. then he walked out as an operation cia. he failed, he became an analyst, he had undistinguished career. when obama became president, he came back from the private sector to seek revenge on the agency which he did with an internal organization off sensos where he mixed analyst with operators, making them responsible for operations. because we watched out and he was a failure and he wanted to seek revenge. he politicized the cia and especially used it at a political tool. not only president obamaan but o capitol hill. why he did this, i don't think he believes in america. how can you believe in america if you vote for the communist party at the height of the cold war? john brennan is at the center of operation crossfire hurricane. illegal surveillance of the term campaign in our white house. he's the man who began it all. responsible for targeting of individuals in the campaign. i expect this individual to be in high legalig jeopardy in 2020 once this final subpoenas and indictments are brought down. >> peter, good afternoon. >> thank you. it's a real privilege and honor, god bless you. i've been listening with great interest and maybe i should say growing concern, i would really like to ask mr. gorka, we still have confidence in our system as far as rule of law. these people on the far left, i think of them as trader wannabes. they may notot take actual actis but in their speech and in their sentiments, i get the impression they would gladly see the united states damaged and replaced with ever idea they have. they're not actually traders or commit treasonon but -- >> i think we got the point. things were going in. >> i like that phrase. and use it with accreditation. wannabes. there's something strange about individuals who did illegal things against the campaign and the white house. think about the, you are the counterintelligence at the highest level and your sending thousands of texts to your girlfriend who's married when you are married. these are arrogant people. these are people who hate what the country stands for but they are not very bright. the idea that on a government phone, your texting the person you are being unfaithful with. west virginia or tennessee, i could smell the trump voters. while. your texting thingsxt like he's not going to win, is he? ono, donald trump is not going to win. you have insurance policy. obama's national security advisers, i think is the day of the inauguration, the president was being sworn in, the 45th president and she's sending an e-mail on government account saying by the way, president obama wants everything to be done by the book. he doesn't protest too much. wife with the national security advisor saying everything we want done by the book? you haven't been doing things by the book and you are using a fake paper trail. the good news is, he's there to insist the d.o.j. after obama, trump has a reputation for putting bad guys in jail. bad guys who often wear a badge and a gun. be patient, we believe in collecting evidence, not having tandem reports like nancy pelosi does. a little more patience but that statements coming out of the d.o.j. already have reports of that are very much happening. >> you right america is busy being deliberately dismantled and the election of donald trump is only possible because of a bipartisan betrayal of mineral america. >> i have a medical complaint, i can't go past books without buying a book or gun store without buying a gun. but i have no patience, 600 pages of what did eisenhower have in 1941? i don't have the time. i have two autobiographies in the last 20 years. there are exceptions to the rule that changed my life. the first one is anders indignation. let's look upon what i learned as ave conservative in the autobiography, especially chapter six. the sources of the left. what we are seeing with aoc, the squad isn't a function, in 80 years italian communist writing, to a friend of hilary. there's a progression. it's documentable and that's why it did in the war for american soul. dismantling of what's happening today, i was highly experienced by that autobiography. i don't read autobiographies but you have got to read this book. thanksgiving weekend, i wrote the whole thing. he's not a trump supporter. when he wrote the book, he was clearly not a trump supporter. that book extrication of what the political elite did to america in the last 40 years is extraordinary. i used his autobiography to extract relate the strategic analysis of why donald trump was elected, a non- politician was elected by americans. his story of this hillbilly clan in the midwest, to find success, find jobec security and steel plant in automotive manufacturing. then he's decimated. jobs are outsourced to asia. left and right in washington d.c. subscribed to the same culture, there is no future for america. brazil, russia, india, china and off we must preparepa for is managed decline. the idea that last year 72000 people died of drug overdoses, almost 20000 more died in ten years of the vietnam war., we exploited the jobs and imported drugs. there was a conscious surrendering of the american dream. strangely, subscribed right and the left and the idea that he made it possible, the greatest irony of all is convincing nixon open to china. china was a nation that could never have competed with us. once china was given world trade nation, once it was given donations inve america then they akdecided the giant could be tan down. donald trump doesn't believe in managing the crime as we've seen in the last three years, china has been giving it to whitewater. >> laura, brooklyn. good afternoon. >> since 2014, mr. biden has by the ukraine and american people. set up the business deal and western at the market price. do you believe mr. biden should become by the u.s. military? >> are you from ukraine originally? >> yes. >> thank you. >> the specific term and the conventions to be a war criminal, you have to be in the train of command of organizing war crimes. i don't see vice president biden chain of command in wartime responsible for war crimes but he is one of the most corrupt politicians in american history. the idea you are made person for president obama's ukraine policy and you openly, any one of the viewers can check it, extort the ukraine and saying i held up a billion dollars of u.s. aid until they fired the prosecutor who's investigating, hunter biden was employed, at least $50000 a month, that's the kind of corruption they refuse president trump of committing which he never did. anybody should be charged with bribery and extortion, it is joe biden. he's telling storieses about his legs, it's not that he's funny and pathetic, it's that he's corrupt and his son is corrupt. if it continues in the senate, we have a good opportunity to find out just how corrupt the whole biden client truly is. >> if you can't get through on the phone lines, you want to send text, you can do so. 2027488003. greg in arizona, you are on the line. >> thanks a lot for taking my call. sebastian, just realized there's a whole bunch on your team. it's up seen what the problem is. behind the democrats when they are having their debate. you are right, we are up against pure hatred. god bless you. god bless trump and keep doing what you are doing. thank you very much. >> online again and see reports from the recent democrat convention. they realize the convention was opening, there are no american flags on the stage of the dnc convention. they have to rush out of the stadium. what does that tell you when they are voiding people like calling him one of the richest sportsmen in america? the national anthem is playing for disrespecting our flag.d disrespecting those who bled and gave their lives of this nation. this is sad. this is the democrat party and your forefathers. think -- you can't even part of the democrat platform openly. if you're strong on national security, to believe in national security like john f. kennedy did, you won't be allowed on the platform today. that's saddening. i wish we have a massive of the democrats in 2020 because it's that type of a crisis that will force them to reassess who they have become and perhaps return to theirot roots of conclusive. i work for donald trump, he wants to support everyone and make sure they are safe. no matter where they were born, thee class, the democrats will never believe. he wants you to thrive, prosper whether or not you voted for dim. that's how it should be with every president. that's not how it is on the left today and something has to change. >> will you be involved in the 2020 campaign? >> i have a national radio show, which i provided a platform left and right, the campaign is always there. i have done j junior trump, i he him on the show regularly. the president knows my phone number, he's called me several times since i left the white house. right now, it's the national platformen and the engagements across the country. >> when is the show on live and can people watch it or listen to online? >> yes. it's three to six eastern every time every day monday through friday. it's on hundreds of stations across the country. listen to it 24/7 on repeat. it's on apple podcast, we live stream it on youtube.m live streaming on facebook and after the show airs at 6:00 p.m., we put each our up on the instrument as well. >> you ever allow people who disagree with you to call in? you ever invite people who disagree with on? >> i have had young turks and i'm open for debate. every week we get calls for my producer, we get into a rhetorical battle so yes, we don't have any filter. my children say preach to the choir, we do everything. >> in your second book, "why we fight", you refer to political correctness as a permafrost on america. >> this imagery came to me during the election of 16. it came out of my first reading idwith candidate trump. i grew up in the uk, i would to private school, debating club and all thought. this was very different than what i was used to. within seconds, maybe minutes, i realized one thing. this individual detests political correctness. he is the kryptonite of political quickness. that's why it was very easy for me to become his advisor and work in thean white house. then as i started thinking aboue it, it came to me that what we've seen in the last 40 to 50 years in america is this increasing tide of political correctness. eventually, under the obama administration, it became a permafrost across american culturelt, locked-in one way of thinking. the reason 63 million americans are left with nonpolitician as the president is because they saw in him an icebreaker ship. it's that one individual who says i will not surrender the political correctness. i will not allow those who disagree with me to take my speech. like a true icebreaking trip, he rose upow onto devices and smasd away through it. it opened up for so many people in america the possibility that we can once again return the pounding principles upon which the republicans built where freedom of speech is respected where you are not prepared and what you're allowed to say for political purposes. for me, donald trump became the icebreaker and political correctness, theli permafrost finally broken. i finished the analogy with this, what happens if it breaks through the ice? if there isn't a pillow behind it, the arctic is the ice immediately reform behind the bow of the ship. it's up to us to keep that passageway clear and that's why people have to believe they matter in today's america.in every single one of us to keep freedom open. >> you quote andrew, politics is down stream for culture. >> outside of ben shapiro's care about your feelings slogan, i think the phrase is the most universally one in the recent years. without understanding what it truly means, on my radio show, again and again, i tried to make people understand, what did i mean by saying that? he meant the parliament. it doesn't matter what you care about, pro-life, second amendment, freedom of speech, deregulation, whatever it is. a rise in the city by the time you get to capitol hill, it's already settled. it was settled decades ago and years ago to the idea you can have a debate on the merits of the individual issue, this is the point. the issues of our age of the issues in our culture are shaped, are formed to make conventional wisdom in the culture first. you cannot wait, this is the left great success. they understood, d.c. has got to stand. it's what you do in the culture, the community organizer, the screen riser. far more important. without rush limbaugh and his 24 million listeners, donald trump culture is where you must propel about issue. it's not about every four years in the ballot box. you react in the culture first. that's where andrew was very right. >> for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zones, we have about a half hours left with our guest. ... i go to the usually the only person who asked about the science and questions the line that they are doing. over the past six years i have noticed that these presentations have evolved in the latest now is a presentation that revolves around the person to act, to do something. in the latest one i went to locally, the it was organized by democratic party folks and they had the high school democrat students there. all giving their presentation about global warming and a couple local conservation people, one scientist. and the whole audience and everybody else is saying we have to act, we have to do something and coincidentally a week before that there was a conference in europe, i think in germany but i'm not positive where some skeptical climate scientists are getting together in one of these environmental activist organizations and somebody said it was kind of like anti-for, they went to the hotel for everyone to meet and harass the hotel so much that the hotel cancel the contract for the conference. in the conference had to go through and at the last minute tried to find a different hotel. host: i apologize but i think we have to cut it there, i think you got the jest of what was going. guest: i don't want to go off on a tangent about climate, with since when is science of a consensus we been told to get a consensus in the community. it is about theories being proven and about facts, those consensus of the world was fact but iflatbut it was not. we understand what is really about. it's about controlling your future. we have had 50 years of being told it's an ice age, it's an ozone layer, it's the bees, it's swine flu, can we have some consistency of which the apocalypse is going to come around the corner. and what's the idea the aoc green use steel, gasoline is illegal, flying biplanes is illegal, this is a level of control that stalin would have salivated over and it's about the state having more power over you. let's inject science back into e the debate. let me share one story with you if i may. one ofon the reasons that i wroe my last two books was what happened to me in the election of 2016. my wife and i were on our way home and i stopped at the local grocery store and i was paying for a few items. and there were two middle-aged ladies behind me. the one next to me, i could tell maybe she was latina or from the philippines. and she kept talking about me and they knew that she had seen me before. finally th i was paying into tht outer whisper. we won. and i looked at her and i said no, it's not we won, it's america one. at which point peter, the women behind me who is caucasian, born here, not like me or theik other lady. started screaming. she said, no, it sure [bleep] bigot of a candidate that is going to ruin america. now i am 49 years old and i have never had 70 do that to me in public with witnesses. to which i responded, no my dear, it is that attitude that got your candidate to lose. this is why i write my books. america is in a situation now that is not justified by whoho e are and what we done for the world. we need to get back to the reality. host: it's kind of a big deal to change or nationality, isn't it? i have no context without being bored and brad. guest: not if you grow up in the uk watching the hill street blues and seeing ronald reagan as a male version of your own hero at the time. i was in love with america from a very early age. and when you actually buy into the reality that were the greatest nation on god's earth. the only one found on principle of individually liberty it wasn't hard decision. host: text for you, millennium a enthralled with communism, they are so pampered and narcissistic and that doesn't bode well to live under communism, as much as i'd love to box their ears, this is a slow and steady indoctrination that has targeted our youth for some time. guest: individuals, and others who have no love for this country believe we are the new when this is a nation that liberates others to control the countries they liberated. the idea that people who complain that they need to save spaces, would do well under a socialist regime where the only safe space is if you're a member of the elite in the politburo. many have said it part of the elite as these individuals need to spend a few weeks or a few months and north korea or venezuela and get back to us. venezuela, the richest country in the hemisphere in which people are now eating domestic animals because the economy has gone under socialism. host: next call for sebastian gore kick comes from mike in detroit, good afternoon. caller: , what you are talking about earlier, i think a lot of people are missing the point when it comes to it right now. that is who and what the democratic party has to come. the trump syndrome, the deportable, russians, all that to me they are trying to rationalize and justify their seditious behavior. and i think president trump sees them as they are. a lot of people are still waiting for them to come to their senses or reach across, that is not going to happen. they misused in damage everything that they touch. and i think we cannot govern with them, we just have to keep their hands off power. host: that was mike and detroit spee.guest: i cannot agree morei don't how my boss does it with nancy pelosi to negotiate with you in the white house he's a better man that i am. i could never do that. these people are truly seditious. we know what adam schiff did and we know he cool nor enter a coordinated the whistleblower and then denied it and lied about it and he fabricated a telephone call that never ever happen, we know the dnc sent the ukraine american to the embassy of ukraine to collect a smear against the president but to coordinate a smear campaign against candidate trump with ukraine government, that is the definition of seditio. the democrats wanted to have 600,000 daca recipients nationalized to provide immunity. what did donald trump do? he's a compassionate man and he said okay. how about we double that. how about i give you double that figure four daca recipients under obama if you actually join me in comprehensive immigration reform. what did nancy pelosi say, no. even when donald trump in his white house act in good faith, there is no good faith in the n other side. that tells you everything you need to know. host: text, trump the entire 2016 campaign staff is in jail for laundering money from russia and he refused to cooperate with investigators or releases taxes. also nra was working with russia. that is from him fisher in philadelphia. guest: i am sad that m fisher is a victim to fake news. paul manafort is in prison, hen has a style that is not my style. he is in prison for mortgage fraud. mortgage fraud. collusion with the kremlin, stop making false statements on a mortgage application. flynn is sitting, i worked with him in the white house, because he misremembered the details of the w phone call with the russin ambassador that he was authorized to make. what was the phone call about? you can have a look, it is out there. for russia assistance and the vote in the un to stop israel unit attacked by the united nations. beenis why that man has attacked, his family has been threatened and he lost his home. it is un-american. don't be a hostage my friend to fake news. look things up for yourself and break the chains of your indoctrination. host: in the war for american soul, you praised don boland and he is gone. is that a mistake that he is gone? >> i don't think it's a f mistae to the president, i like john and i consider him a friend and i consider him and american patriot. he has been smeared by the ehpeople behind obama jcl pay in deal and all the people they gave $140 billion to terrorism and the like that we have not seen for decades. i'm not surprised who left their administration. he is not a neocon that want to invade other people's countries. but if there is a a choice betwn intervention and nonintervention, john is more on the intervention side which is the antithesis of the president. >> mike in new york. go ahead. caller: good afternoon i wanted to asked sebastian what he thinks about the likelihood of american civil war within the next 25 - 40 years if the democrats keep going after the second amendment. andorra war with china and the next 50 years. guest: let's recall the bloodiest war republicans have ever been involved in was in vietnam, wasn't korea, wasn't world war i or world war ii it was her own civil war with 6000 americans killed by americans. we don't wish that on ourselves again. without our party right now ralph, the butcher of richmond, the governorir of virginia whate is proposing inc. occurring in other states is against the founding principles of this nation. the second amendment was there for a reason. to protect all the other civil rights that we have. there is no freedom of speech if you have a government. the second amendment is not hunting white tales, it's about having the guarantor of your capacity to remove the government that is behaving in ways that contravene your fundamental right. the democrats have gone too far, beto o'rourke, rober he spoke we democrat candidate himself, hell yes we are coming after your guns, it will not happen in america. we have 300 million guns in private hands, the democrats know that, the extremists now hold the range in certain statehouses but at the end of the day i have faith in the american people and i have faith that sooner or later the extremists understand what a certain japanese general said during world war ii. you cannot invade america, you cannot take control of the government by force because behind every blade of grass will be an american citizen with a rifle. that's why we exist. host: we always ask our authors who come on this program for their favorite books and for what they are currently reading. we talked about a couple of your favorites. righteous indignation by andrew, the third one there is a new testament. guest: of course. as a proud christian and individual double leaves the power is the greatest culture and not all cultures are equal. today in civilization is western civilization. every morning i read the new testament, the truth, or internal truths, we have been saved by our lord and savior and every single day we try to be a little better servants in doing so. how do you do that, where do you get your guidance, you turn to the good book. host: you are currently reading three books, modern strategy by calling gray, resistance at all cost, by kimberly stossel in the plot against the president by lee smith, what is thehe three d book by g lee smith. guest: lee smith's book is a documentation of everything that great american devin nunes did to uncover what i call -- he was given on president access to the intelligence committee and his team and what they call operation medusa which was the operation to find out what happened with james comey's tenure that resulted in the resulted in crossfire hurricane. between the cia, the fbi and the nsa to illegally spy on a presidential campaign with pfizer warrants that excluded exculpatory information that let the spying on carter page and others, lee smith is it reporter who has done great work. along with other books with judge jeanine pirro, and lee smith is getting the facts about the biggest political scandal and in modern american history. host: sebastian greco writes about that in his latest book the war for america soul, audrey in agoura hills, california. thank you for holding your on the air. >> good morning. i am in california, not by choice but because of responsibility i read meyer you so much. my question to you, why didn't the administration immediately asked for all the resignation of the obama and therefore happ ha, would this have not all come together. as an educator for a 50 years teaching american history and american government, i am now retired but i feel that my platform in my voice. i do agree, our social media, i am on facebook all the time making comments and supporting our president. but going back to my q question, do you think that that would have been more positive to request the resignation of comey and all the other salvationist in the previous. host: thank you for calling. guest: god bless you for having been a teacher. it is not a cabinet level. that was the biggest issue. at the beginning of their administration even before the transition, i said to principles, we need to get rid of as many people as possible. a national council of obama 430 people, get rid of them all, the political appointees in the senior director, it filled the building with a much smaller staff, most people from the campaign across the country. with having worked in washington it and who understand and believe in the president of make america great again agenda. my argument was for six months, nine months we will stop because some of these peoplewe don't knw where causing standards. but we will wrap them up quickly but will have a body of people who are loyal and who understand why 63 million americans chose donald trump. i advice was not heated by a the administration and as a result people like mike flynn were targeted and framed and charged with felonies despite the innocence of the crimes they have been charged with in twoge agents who interviewed mike flynn said they don't think he lied. my hope is god willing and 300 odd days in president trump is reelected, the biggest question, forget china, iran, the economy, the biggest challenge for second trump administration is the bench, there is no bench, we have to clear house and bring in people who are unpainted and loyal to the vision of making america greatat again. i don't know who said it, maybe reagan or the administration, personality is policy. it's a cliché that is so very true, his policy, we have to have people who are not subverting the president in thee white house in in the administration. host: text from craig in colorado springs, i love what the president has accomplished with the economy it has an energy taken on china and et cetera. do you think phase two trial should be moreti traditional president in public discourse will continuing his policy. or does it matter? guest: it is not going to happen. let's start with that. 73-year-old man tweeting at 4:0e white house what advice do you give the president on social media i said none. this is a man who ran for the first time as a non-politician and one. you don't give that person advice and communication. to those on the right, who complain about his tweets, i get angry, complaining about the style of his tweets, should we talk about the supreme court or the future of your freedom, should we talk about $11 trillion added to the economy under donald trump, should we talk about the crushing of isis and al-baghdadi in the revitalization of nato, don't talk to me about those issues. larry elder was using the great story, to pro golfers watching tee off, and one of them says look at the golfer style. look at the position of hisoe feet, look how he holds the club and look at the swing in the other one goes i don't care, where does the ball land. that is donald trump. who cares about the packaging. where does the ball land, he has been a hole-in-one for three years. host: this tweet that he is shocked as he spent two has sebastian gorka for four straight hours, what an abomination. this program does re-air as soon as we concluded ten minutes. , pahrump nevada can i speak before her. i'm sad you don't believe in freedom of speech on american audio. caller: sebastian did talk to you, i am pahrump nevada and my focus has long been against globalization. trump is the president with globalization, i would love to hear your thoughts and expand on his thinking in your thinking with him. guest: i have been to pahrump, one of my favorite academies is in pahrump, i know your time well in arizona. in my second book, "why we fight", there is an illustration and photographs from my time in the white house, one that might surprise people, i was standing h the back of the rose garden, a beautiful sunny day when the president gave his speech, i don't do environment, i'm a national security, i stood in the back and took a photograph, when the president of the united states with climate accord with the following sentence, i was elected by the citizens of pittsburgh to be their presiden. of the citizens of paris. we are one of the cleanest environmental nonpolluting in the western world today. with pain for egregious polluters like china and russia goes against everything that we believe in. america first means american interest. american interest first. the religion of globalization is the impetus emphasis of white america became a public and finally we have a president who lives that and walks it for all of us. host: there was another time you were at the white house and had a confrontation with a reporter. guest: quote unquote journalist. host: we want to show a little bit of the video. [laughter] and your journalistt t right? [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] host: what are we witnessing? guest: it's an incident that everybody brings up to me warmly when i meet them. i was at the social media summit with the president who recentl , "after words" he invited the guest to sit at the rose garden why they made the historic announcement about the senses being implement a to. at the end he walks off, he's not taking questions and this fake news purveyor on cnn screams at the president using foul language, i will not repeat it and then they say come down brian, he looks at the presidents gas and spreads his arms out and said you all look like you need demonic possession. a strange projection. at which point i recognized who he was, he verbally abused sarah huckabee sanders for two years and i hadbe enough. i got out and it went over to him and i said your journalist to which in front of hundreds of witnesses he challenged me too s fight, he said come outside and we will settle this. in front of the secret service into which point i said you are a punk. so i had t-shirts made with your just a punk. host: eleanor you were on was sebastian gorka. caller: hello mr. gorka i have some questions and i may have to give you back on. host: you know what i apologize were almost out of time we want to get your voice and so go ahead and asked the questionn quickly. caller: basically i would like to have you envision a scale between marxism and fascism. and i'll say we are country that has always been central not either extreme. in order to pursue the moderate vision of freedom and liberty for all, how do you connote more integrity of individuals. because i find it very difficul. host: i am so sorry, we have to leave it there and will let mr. gorka answer. guest: there is a problem with your question, it's a very common misinterpretation. there is not a scale of politics in communism and fascism. remember, the not to party was called a national socialist workers party of journalism. with regards to your s second point, you judge a man or woman not by what they say or what they tweet, you judge them by what theyhe do. obama may have been good at reading speeches but what he did to apologize for this country and undermine it and find her or enemies is how we should be judge forever. donald trump is not the measure of the man, it's how we prosperous enemies fear us and our friends love us. that is how you measure somebody's moral fiber. host: something you write in the war for america soul, china is our biggest threat. guest: i have been to the white house leading and i realize we will deal with that with iran and russia, the only strategic level threat we face ishr china. they wish to displace us and we have a plan under presidentea trump did do without. host: "defeating jihad", "why we fight", the war for america soul, those are his books. guest: thank you for the incredible interview. >> c-span your unfiltered view of government created by cable in 1979. brought to you today by your television provider. >> booktv covers book fairs and festivals around the country, here is what is coming up. our 2020 festival season will kick off next wednesday with the rancho mirage writers festival in california. followed by our live coverage of the savannah book festival in georgia in february. then we will be live from arizona from the tucson festival of books followed by the new orleans book festival hosted by the university. for more information about upcoming book fairs and festivals and to watch our previous festival coverage click the book fairs tab on our website, booktv.org. . . .

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