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i'm bill o'reilly. hope to see you next time. the spin stops right mere. we're looking out for you. >> gregg: this is a fox news alert. united states right in the middle of a major military operation in afghanistan, this time we're behind enemy lines. hello, i'm gregg jarrett. this is a brand-new hour of america news headquarters. >> julie: u.s. and nato troops working to restore control in the southern region of marjah. it's an area where thousand taliban fighters are believed to be hiding. during the second day, nato forces uncovered a major weapons cache and bomb making materials, a gun battle, sniper attacks, even rocket launches are raging as we speak. as the u.s. tries the take out top resistance. one commander says it could take weeks to break their grip. a military analyst joins us to talk about this. we're one day into this operation. how are we doing? >> i think it's going very well, julie. remember this is not a blitzkrieg style of campaign. the purpose is to gain the air lesion answer of the afghan people. it's important to take out the taliban, it's important to clear and hold the city of marjah and establish a legitimate government, put the afghan army and police in place in the city. by doing that the whole grip of the taliban used to have will begin to erode. the key here is to methodical, to be steady and avoid casualties as much as possible rather than some lightning fast operation. >> julie: top commander said it could take weeks to break the taliban's grip. 30 days to clear marjah in the southern helmand province. in the meantime, what do troops on the ground going to face? >> a couple. first of all, they need to capture the strategic strong points inside the city. they've done that already. secondly, they need to establish a cordon around the city. third, they need to bring the afghan army and police as their partners and put them in place as quickly as possible so that the city and the citizens of marjah see an afghan face on this operation. >> julie: afghan officials say at least 27 insurgents have been killed. two nato troops have been killed an american and a britain. the president has ordered 30,000 additional troops to be sent there, 15,000 still remain. do you feel that this operation should have been put on hold until the remaining 15,000? >> no, no. not at all, julie. remember the enemy is going to seek to gain the initiative at the end of march when the snows in the mountains begin to melt and they infiltrate from pakistan. so this is a prototype of where this campaign is going in future. it's a preempt active strike on on mcchrystal and his staff to put the marines and soldiers on the ground in place to start taking down the taliban strongholds before they are reinforced with taliban coming across the border from pakistan. no, present empty is the key here and we have gained the initiative and tend to exploit it by making it the example as campaigns that are going to follow. >> julie: today we got word, successful thus far, at least ten civilians were killed in this. how do you proceed and try to reduce the number of casualties among civilians? >> the answer is carefully. this campaign is being very methodical. the u.s. command prior to starting the information gave the taliban plenty of time to clear out the city. once they have established a cordon around the city and put the cork in the bottle, there was no hurry to taking take on the taliban. the 200 remained in the city is going to be there, until they are either flushed out and killed or they attempt to withdraw. so speed is not important here. what is important is deliberation and the ability to retake the city causing a little damage to afghan civilians and their property. >> julie: how long do you see this taking place? >> gosh, i would think -- the offensive part, probably between two weeks to a month. the whole part of operation, the critical part, that is going to take months, perhaps six months. the key is, of a cans can be in charge of security and you turn the tide in that city by winning the allegiance of the people. >> julie: turning the tide around turning the responsibility into afghan authorities, something they did in iraq, that could take some time. >> oh, boy. that is really the problem here. to use a military term, that is the center of gravity. it's not how effective they will be in clearing out city, that is going to happen. what is really important. the question is whether or not the afghan police and the government officials are going to make this thing stick. that is the $64,000 question. >> julie: robert scales, thank you very much for coming on. always great to see you. >> gregg: could khalid shaikh mohammed face a civilian or military court. joe biden saying president obama will make the final call on that issue but the mastermind's fate is still a hot topic on the sunday talk shows. caroline falling acts in washington. >> reporter: today the president national security advisor jim jones trying the 9/11 mastermind before a military tribunal is under review. they announced they would try khalid shaikh mohammed in a civilian court in new york city but got a push back from mayor and some members of congress. they have a long record of prosecuting terrorists and could handle him. >> there is no doubt, he is a very, very bad person and leader in the first degree of some of the worst things that have happened to us in our history. he is in confinement. he is under control. likelihood he will see the light of day anytime soon is very remote. but we have to let this process play out in terms of where and when this trial will take place. >> reporter: many republican lawmakers want him tried in a military tribunal as an enemy combatant. here is senator lindsay graham. >> putting the mastermind of 9/11 in the middle of new york city criminalizes the war. if he is not an combatant, who would be? >> gram says he supports the administration first to close the detention center in guantanamo because he talked to al-qaeda members, that gitmo was a great recruiting fool for them graham says the detainees should be questioned under law and not criminal law. >> gregg: coming up a bit later, a former speech writer to george w. bush will be telling us why he thinks president obama's strategy for going after terrorists may be putting all of us at risk. he'll explain what he means in just a bit. >> julie: in today's talk shows, war of words between biden and cheney. two men trading barbs in how they handled the war on terror. julie is in washington and joins us with a blow-by-blow assessment. they went back and forth from the suspected christmas day bomber. what did they say about that case in particular? >> christmas day bomber, not read his miranda rights. president obama is trying to pretend we're not at war. joe biden took that comments on two talk shows and the former vice president fired back. take a listen. >> the thing i learned from watching that process unfold the administration really wasn't equipped to deal with the aftermath of an attempted attack against the united states in the sense they didn't know what to do with the guy. >> i don't know what dick has been doing lately. we did exactly what he did with the shoe bomber, richard reid, exactly what he did. >> this is the closest klian any and biden got to a debate. first time they've been on back-to-back talk shows. >> julie: they are outspoken to say the least. did they get into the personal attacks today? >> they did in their tone. they clashed about policy, foreign policy, but it is fascinating to hear the tone. hear biden bee little the man he replaced. take a listen. >> it's one thing to be outspoken but it's another thing to be outspoken in a way that misrelates the facts. again, it's almost like dick is trying to rewrite history. >> joe biden wants to take credit, i'm not sure for, what since he opposed that policy pretty much from the outset. >> he was asked why he has been so critical in recent months and outspoken about the obama white house, basically he says he is out of office and he can. former president bush doesn't object. >> julie: did the two agree on anything? >> oh afghanistan, mr. cheney said he is a complete supporter of what the obama administration is doing in afghanistan right now. but the former vp said he thought it would take him a while to get there. >> julie: thank you very much. it's fun to watch it play out. >> gregg: let's point out richard reid was captured two months after 9/11 and military system didn't exist back then. harry reid taking a big chance on the jobs bill even with 85 billion dara bill. the plan did have support. then he slimmed it down by $70 billion strichg out a lot of pork but also business tax breaks. now he says he still expects republicans to back it. if they don't, harry reid has turned what could have been a bipartisan victory into a defeat for his own party. let's bring in correspondent for the washington examiner, richard is former specialist and senior advisor to bill clinton. thanks for being with us both of you. richard, even the white house was caught off guard by what had a harry reid did. today's washington post calling eight case study in dysfunction. you think that reid's move was smart, as i understand it. how do you figure? >> i think it was smart because i think it's part of what we are trying to do do things differently. the new bill will save the taxpayers $70 billion. reid's focus is what the people want. they want the government to be focused on job creation but they want to do it in a way that doesn't spend a lot of money. so i think from a political perspective i think it was perfect. to have gone down the road with $85 billion jobs' bill would have subjected the democrats to the same kind of criticism they got around the health care bill. >> gregg: but they made the criticism they produced nothing at all. byron, the original bill would have had, cut payroll taxes for businesses that hire unemployed workers. republicans liked out. the president liked it, suddenly harry reid spikes it. did he undermine his party's best chance for a needed legislative win? >> he did it because he was in a bind within his own party. senators on the left, especially those that don't face re-election, thought the bill was too small, too many tax cuts extension of bush tax cuts was thrown in there to get republican approval. then again, senate moderates, especially foes o those up for re-election worried about having too much pork. people in their own states already very concerned about the deficit. they think the stimulus last year didn't work. reid was in a tough position here. what he is going to do is get a number of these things, extension of unemployment benefits and other things in other bills down the way. it's not as if he is going to do some of this stuff but do it separately. >> gregg: most americans think the stimulus bill, $787 billion stimulus bill didn't really work. tweas supposed to work but a mere 6% believer it created jobs. new jobs' bill is stimulus 2. does it run the risk of being equally unpopular and compounding problems for democrats? >> think that is why you saw it shrink go so much. they don't want to be characterized as that but they don't want it to be stimulus 2. it went from $85 billion down to $15 billion. it's much smarter. pork is out of it. corporate tax breaks are out of it. truth that the bigger bill we're not going to see was full of corporate tax breaks. we heard for two months, heard the last two months about the corn husker kickback. republicans can't have it both ways. people complained that the bills were bloated, they were full of pork. now, we have a bill that makes much more sense. much more in keeping what the americans want and it's cheaper. >> gregg: byron, there are four provisions that are still in it that are traditionally the kinds of things that republicans favor. if they vote this down to defeat isn't that going to hurt them politically? >> it's entirely possible they will support some of this. you're right, showpiece is move to cut payroll taxes for employers who hire people who have been unemployed for some pooh period of time. that has bipartisan support. we should say this $15 billion is tiny, tiny bill. last year's stimulus was $787 billion, between 787 and $15 billion is a huge amount. most people don't think it's going to make a lot of difference. >> gregg: large business groups say it's a drop in the bucket. we'll wait and see. richard and byron, good to see you both this sunday. >> julie: winter comes calling and shows no signs have leaving anytime soon. check this out from alabama, winter wonderland for kids but a major headache for travelers. it was the same situation across tennessee, georgia and texas and there is more snow on the way tonight. domenica davis joins us with the chilly forecast? >> this time it's a clipper system coming out of north. you can see it down here to the south. it's going to start to affect parts of months valley and tennessee valley and will continue to do so right until tomorrow. here is a look at the winter storm warning and advisories, they go all the way down into parts of alabama. that is where we're looking at, mainly a rain-snow mix, but either way it's going to cause some destruction out on the roadways. here a look, a little bit of sleet that is pushing to the east. you have snow to the north. heaviest of the system is going to be in the ohio valley where we could get anywhere from three to possibly six inches in parts of kentucky. future cast takes the system into the mid-atlantic by monday, but the good thing is with this system it will be hugging the coast which will draw more rain in which will keep the snow totals down which is good news for the folks in washington and philadelphia. up in new england authenticate get a little more. here is what we're looking at. some of the heaviest of the storm will be ohio valley, up in charleston where we could have three to six inches. for the mid-atlantic, we're looking at dusting, possibly an inch. much of the precipitation is going to be rain and more in new england close to the six inch range. >> julie: thank you very much. >> gregg: did you hear about this. america's cup is back in the united states for the first time in 15 long years. tycoon larry ellison took the prize after beating another billionaire from switzerland. this was the longest drought without the cup since 1850, oldest trophy given in international sports. congratulations. i guess you have to be a billionaire to have one of those big boats. >> julie: they all split it up. it's not one of those. all right. u.s. expanding the use of drone attacks to take out terrorists overseas. some critics say the white house is not tough enough to terror. our next guest says, ramping up attacks and killing too many terrorists is a bad idea. he is going to tell us why in three minutes. >> gregg: on this valentine's day, a special message from our troops overseas to their loved ones back home. you're going to be hearing them throughout the newscast, take a listen. >> hi, this sue clark from iraq. i just want to wish my one a happy valentine's day and you are in my heart and in my mind. happy valentine's day back in the new york. 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>> absolutely. the drone is a very important tool on the war on terror. it helps you attack in remote regions where you can't send special operation forces. we in the bush administration, we tried to capture these people alive and bring them in for questioning. obama has eliminated our capability to dwayne terrorist leaders. just this morning, on the front page of the washington post, there is a story how they decimated this possibility and how a senior leader in west of a are ri ka, they were given a choice kill him or capture him and they said kill them. the opportunity to interrogate one of most terrorism targets was gone forever. a senior official says the reason they made that decision we don't have a place to detain these people anymore. we're in grave danger. >> julie: so you think the increased use of drone attacks on terror targets are putting us at risk here? >> well, it's not the increased use of drone attacks, sometimes you want to kill them with drones. what is at risk we're no longer detaining and interrogating terrorists. i interviewed mike hayden, former director of c.i.a., one of the things he explained intelligence is like putting a puzzle. we have thousands of pieces and we have to connect them. only way you can get the picture and cover of the box is to capture the senior leaders, the khalid shaikh mohammeds and others. this is why we're in trouble right now. on christmas day we didn't see the picture on the cover of the box. we didn't know al-qaeda was going to hit us at home. >> julie: so capture the terrorists and interrogate them and incarcerate them and fly them back to yemen and close gitmo. you see where i'm going with this? so we interrogate them and release them back to al-qaeda cells. i'll trying to argue the other point. many would argue, perhaps we would see the terrorists dead because if we let them stay alive and interrogate them they will kill more americans in the end? >> the solution one capture them and two interrogate them and don't release them back to yemen. we need to get these people to get the intelligence we need to stop terrorist attacks. c.i.a. program we had hundred terrorists, we stopped in karachi and plan to fly airplanes in heathrow airport and a plot to fly a plane into library in los angeles. so we are at risk because we don't have this capability any more. >> julie: i tell you what is putting americans are at risk is the government that we were almost attacked on american soil. they were going to try them in civilian court. f.b.i. to end the questioning of abdulmutallab and read him miranda rights and janet napolitano says the system worked because passengers jumped on abdulmutallab. these are the examples why people would accuse the president of being soft on terror. so, do you not believe that americans would feel safer if, rather than talking with terrorists, we kill them? >> no. i think it's the opposite. you analyzed it exactly right. we or not capturing these people abroad. when one falls into our lap, this guy has information on who trained next to him, who recruited him, what were the cell phone numbers, information we couldn't get anywhere else. we read him his rights and then told him he had the right to remain silent. we should can infair gating this guy without reading his rights as an enemy combatant and going out and capturing the terrorist leaders that can tell us where the next attack is so we can stop the guy before he gets on the plane. >> julie: something tells me had we captured osama bin laden and talked to him, that wouldn't have made such a big difference on 9/11. >> if we were able to capture khalid shaikh mohammed it would have made a huge differences. they had follow on attacks and cells deployed. they were using southeast terrorists. we didn't even know after 9/11 that khalid shaikh mohammed was the mastermind of 9/11 or he had other plans for terror attacks. it was only after we captured him and interrogated him icing enhanced interrogation techniques that we stopped a series of attacks that he set in motion. without this capability, america will be attacked again. >> julie: mark, thank you very much. author of courting disaster and how president obama is inviting a second attack. >> gregg: just a reminder, april 15th just ahead, chances are you are putting off filing your tax report again. you might want to carefully study the tax code. there might be a few pleasant surprises in there, could help you out, tax break tips, next. 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>> yeah, that controversy ramped up yesterday when the president of georgia held a news conference and he basically ripped into the ioc and vancouver luge officials who concluded it was human error that caused the death of that luger. here is what he had to say. >> i don't claim to no all the technical details, but one thing i know for sure, that no sport mistakes is supposed to lead to a death, no sports mistake is supposed to be fatal. >> reporter: he went on to say that the luger who was killed was very experienced. he came from a long line of lugers and he doesn't know what kind of error he may have made but he did not deserve to die for it. the speed of the track has been a big issue for weeks. some lugers, one american made a statement prior to the games that track was going kill somebody, even the federation, the luge federation president 85 miles an hour should be the top speed for luge runs. this one was running at about 95 miles per hour. >> julie: so i guess the future runs will be slower, that is what they are essentially trying to do is slow the race down. >> reporter: necessity made some changes to the ice. they added some fencing and put some padding around the steel support beams, but they also lowered the starting line for the men. the men will start where the women started. that slows down. canadians are not happy about that. they had a competitive advantage because they have been doing more training so they are not happy with the changes. ioc said they had to do something because of death. >> julie: tell us about the protests that you saw earlier in the day. >> reporter: that was yesterday. there was basically a group of 100 anarchists that joined a group of legitimate protestors. they basically started to throw rocks and things through windows. they also spray-painted a couple vehicles and got in a scuffle with police officers but the police handled it quickly. they made 7 arrests. the protestors say they will be back day after day down here to get their message out. the message is anarchy. the police have 15,000 personnel so necessity can handle whatever comes their way. >> julie: thank you very much, dan. >> gregg: in has been a roof collapse near pittsburgh, pennsylvania of an ice skating rink. this is live and here is what happened. apparently there was so much snow on top of the ice garden skating rink that it collapsed, all of it collapsed. unknown if anybody at this hour is trapped inside because the rescue crews are trying to gain entrance to that facility. the entire roof has fallen in. no specific information about whether anybody has been injured or killed here, but obviously, as you can see, a concerted effort by fire and rescue to get inside to determine if anybody has been injured or killed or is remaining trapped inside. we'll continue to follow what is happening at the ice gardens in pennsylvania. if you are like the majority of americans, chances are you haven't thought about filing your taxes for 2009. you might want to think about it. look at the calendar. tax day is only two months and a day away. it's time to start thinking about what kind of breaks the irs may be willing to extend. you could discover pleasing surprises. pat powell joins us. she knows how to decipher the code. she is founder and ceo of the powell financial group. sometimes, normally it's too late to do something about last year's taxes that you have to file by the 15th of april. not true this year there are deductions and credits identified in the new tax law that could help you. start first and explain what tax credits and deductions are? >> they are both good. a deduction is where you reduce your taxable income. a credit is where you reduce your tax. so for example, if you are 25% tax bracket, if you have $1,000, if you have $250 in pocket. thousand dollar credit you put a thousand dollars in your pocket. you take whatever you can get. >> gregg: let's run through a bunch of favorable benefits. if you happen to buy a new home, what about that? >> if you buy before april 30th of this year, there is still the new home buyers' tax credit. you have to qualify from an income standpoint but you can take that credit against last year's taxes if you go as late as april 30th. so people that own a home, if you meet certain income standards, you can get a credit for up to $6500 as late as april 30th. >> gregg: that is a good one. a lot of people donated to haiti? >> if you donated after the earthquake all the way through march 1st, you can take that deduction on last year's taxes or this year's but not both. >> gregg: what about an ira? >> you can still do an ira, meet income qualifiers, and for the self-employed, it's possible to get a simplified pension deduction of up to $49,000. >> gregg: what about college tuition? >> this year there is a college deduction between $2,000 to $4,000. maximum is $4,000, no matter how many kids you have in college. >> energy credits? >> a lot of these have specific things that i'm not going to go through. last year, if you did energy improvements on your home you could get a credit was up to $1500. >> gregg: earned income tax credits, conversion kit credits, there is a lot of stuff out there. i'm afraid, we have breaking news. pat powell. thanks for being here. >> julie: this is a fox news alert. we want to take you live in kansas city where police are working hard to clean up a mess of a massive pile-up, weather-related accidents. several of them in kansas city, weather-related accidents, one happening shortly happening on i-70, another in johnson county i'm told, an accident near i-35 and 87th street. both roads shut down. police are working hard. as you can see on these live pictures here, courtesy of kctv, they have show. just about all 50 states have snow on the ground, on kansas city they have multiple pileups. we'll keep a close eye on weather-related accidents and have the latest coming up a little later. roasted chicken recipe? 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[ laughter ] >> julie: that is so cool. >> reporter: but there is another thing. >> this the sharpshooter. by sin master. boys love remote controlled helicopters. what is cool about this, it comes with two missiles that shoot remotely. >> reporter: very nice. it requires a little practice. we've got toys for girls. these are dolls. >> this is alexis, an aspiring musician. if a girl dyes the hair, you buy a new wig and replace it right away. >> reporter: very good. these are going to be new this year. >> this drum set new this year. this is one of many of the new collection. >> reporter: very good. over 7,000 new toys are here at the toy fair. this is not open to the public. " retailers talk to the manufacturers find out what is new and cool. coming up next hour, evening going to explain and show it to you live. >> gregg: we have to stay tuned for that. see if you can grab a liz doll for my daughter whose name is liz. >> reporter: i'll see what i can do. >> julie: i want the animal plado. >> i saw you on the scooter. that was very cute. >> julie: what a fun story. all right. you guys. >> midterm elections are months away but voters are looking for change. coming up, we'll talk to scott rasmussen and find out what they are saying about congress, health care and other top issues facing the u.s. today. >> hello, here in afghanistan. valentine's card to my family, friends and in boston, massachusetts. %%%%%%%%% >> gregg: an ice rink has collapsed near pittsburgh, where the roof is partially collapsed. the collapse of the ice garden returning in west moreland county, reportedly sunday afternoon. we have seen footage from the scene showing several people being removed on stretchers. obviously they are injured. extent of injuries is unclear. it's unclear whether people are still trapped inside. rescue crews trying to gain access to the collapsed area. we've checked out the website and must be session was scheduled for today. it's unclear whether people attended it but weather, perhaps that officials inside the returning it was sagging in advance and got people out. we just don't know that. no reports so far of any deaths. we'll continue to follow what is happening in pittsburgh. >> julie: recent polls showing americans are increasingly unhappy with the ways things are running in washington. 63% of likely voters believe it would be better for the country that most incumbents in congress were defeated this november. 19% disagree and say it would be better if most incumbents would re-elected. scott rasmussen joins us live. i guess voters are not happy with constituents in office. here is another one, 38% of voters say their local representative in congress deserves to be re-elected? >> look this is the situation. voters are frustrated, they have been frustrated about bailouts and take over of general motors. one out of four americans, 27% believe their own representative is the best possible person for the job, but that is what you expect when 735 of americans are angry of policies of federal government. >> julie: republicans received modestly good news. fell us what happened in a three-way contest when you have a tea party candidate on the ballot? >> we run this poll twice, choice between democrats, republicans and tea party candidates. both times the democrats end up with 36%, now the republicans are in second place with 25% and tea party is behind. back in december tea party was in second place. what we're seeing here, very simply people are trying to vote whoever is in power. they did it in 2006 and 2008. >> julie: if you are sitting on your couch, you added up those numbers and you came up with 101 you're right. you round up and down. just to let you know. >> that's right. it's all okay. >> national health care debate has played a big part in the growing voters' anger. what do they say about scrapping the plan? >> 61% say that is exactly what they should do. in fact, from a different perspective, 54% really they shouldn't do anything until voters have a say. 35% want congress to pass something on health care before the midterm election. >> julie: all right. scott rasmussen, always great to have you. >> thank you, julie. >> gregg: another weather-related alert for your huge multi-car pile-up has shut down several stretches of highways in the kansas city area. several ambulances dispatched to treat the injured. don't know the extent of the injured. kansas city star is reporting one crash was on interstate 35, about 30 vehicles. another pile-up who vehicles in that one. multiple accidents reported on interstate 70. we think this is interstate 70 which is closed now for several hours. authorities are 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south carolina and more on the way. >> gregg: our top story, a top marine commander reporting that american troops in -- an afghan soldiers occupy most of the taliban strong hold of marjah and the militants dug tointo so areas and caroline shivley that's story from washington. >> reporter: the national secured advisor says the offensive brings together critical components. including new u.s. troops, more civilians on the ground and international aid, here's jim jones on "fox news sunday." >> the combination of this will give people of the southern part of the country a renewed sense it's a destiny and can help shape it in a powerful way over the next few weeks. >> reporter: it is this biggest fight in afghanistan since '01 and the first offensive since the president announced a surge of troops into the country and reuters quotes a marine as saying the intensity of the fight is strong as the battle of fallujah in '04. and after the fighting, nato will put aid and supplies in there as quickly as possible and restore service and this fighting was terrifying for civilians and nato has to be sure things are better and better fast, so people in hell manned province will not have any loyalty to the taliban and it will be felt countrywide. >> the cohesion that exists between elements of international and national power that are coming together, and will be of -- a very, very good -- and i think successfully demonstrated and executed operation, that is going to make a big thing in not the only southern part of afghanistan but will send shockwaves through the rest of the country. >> reporter: another component according to jones, the afghan forces have been a visible part of the operation. gregg. >> gregg: caroline shivley in washington. thanks. >> julie: president obama making a final decision where to hold 9/11 trials. that is the word from the vice president joe biden on the fund talk show circuit and the news coming after the white house nixed a justice department decision to try confessed 9/11 master mind khalid sheikh mohammed and other alleged conspirators here in new york and the vice president also saying the administration is not ruling out moving the trial to mill military tribunals but how could that affect -- the move affect the president's support and where would it leave eric holder who, let me remind you was behind the plan for civilian trials and joining me is michael goodwin, a fox news contributor, thanks for talking to us and eric holder was not the only one behind trying the terrorists in a civilian court and the president backed him as well, let's not forget that. how is the administration and the president be viewed if they go ahead and completely change their minds on several things, number one pulling it out of new york city, contested by many to the city and number 2, no longer going forward with the civilian trial and holding a military tribunal, yet another argument made a long time ago. >> that would be a great start and would boost the president's standing for a number of reasons. i think right now there are three flash points around the policies, the first is the ksm trial, khalid sheikh mohammed, why should he get a civilian trial and committed an act of war and belongs in a military tribunal and chopped up daniel pearl's head and pleaded guilty to that and the notion he should come into court and get a presumption of innocence and constitutional protections makes no sense and don't forget, the police commissioner of new york city said it would make new york more of a target than it is. and those are grounds right there. just not to do it and that would be a first good step and the second flashpoint is the christmas day bomber, and the quick decision to give him miranda rights, and that is one i think that is behind a lot of the concern, here in new york, and everywhere else, that we are going to treat these guys, as ordinary criminals, as though, again, it is just a crime and again most people even in liberal new york don't think that way and third, finally, guantanamo bay. what are you going to do with that place? and going to do with the people who are recall ready there and we're in afghanistan now and you are report on the surge and helmand province, and what if we capture a high value detainee. >> julie: where will he go. >> will we give him miranda rights and these are policy issues the obama administration i believe made a big mistake on the first year, happily they seem to be reviewing at least the ksm trial but i think it would be the beginning of the review. >> julie: you rob a bank and read a suspect the miranda rights, you try to attack a country, you are a war criminal, i'm sorry... >> and it is note nature of the crime. it is the intelligence, it's not somebody with three friends, he was sent by al qaeda. that intelligence as many people noted is perishable and if you don't get it right away you may never get it. >> julie: what do you think? if the president goes ahead and changes his plan altogether, do you think he'll win over his critics. >> i do. when you look at afghanistan, he really is taking the fight to the terrorists and it is a very aggressive move, and i think he's doing a lot of good things, the use of the drone, within pakistan and you have to say in those areas, the president is really fighting a very aggressive war against al qaeda and the taliban. here at home, however, it begins to get a little mushy and the issue of giving them civilian trials, and look, some of them will get civilian trials, like with the christmas day bomber, he may well ends up in civilian court but the question is when do you give him his miranda rights and they had 300 witnesses to the fact he was trying to blow up the plane and you don't need his incriminating comments. what you need from him is the intelligence, so you can in a way separate him from his intelligence, his case from the intelligence he could offer and ksm on the other hand, having plotted the 9/11 attacks in new york and elsewhere certainly does not deserve a constitutionally protected trial. he deserves a military tribunal and he said he did it and wants to die for it and i say we take yes for an answer. >> julie: could he lose supporters in the process, before a let you go. >> absolutely. i think there is a movement on the left, eric holder i think represents that more than anybody else. who says that somehow we have to convince the world we're a nation of laws and the way that do that is give these guys a trial and at the same time the president, and holder and robert gibbs, the press secretary all say that khalid sheikh mohammed will be found guilty and should be put to death as a result. i ask you, what kind of trial is that? where we have determined the outcome and the president said what outcome he wants? that is not a real trial and that's the problem. we can't have a real trial with these guys. they don't deserve it and we don't deserve it. >> julie: michael good win, thank you very much, columnist with "the new york post," and fox news contributor. >> gregg: hillary clinton keeping the pressure on iran during a visit to the persian gulf and saying the world is forced to ste ed td to take str because of iran's refusal to back down and says the regime is not living up to its nuclear obligations. she's in the gulf region for meeting with two key american allies. and already held talks with top government leaders in qatar and will meet with king abdullah of saudi arabia next. >> julie: two political heavy weights are sparring over the war on terrorism, joe biden and dick cheney taking swings at the other's administration. and no surprise. the former vp claims americans are less safe from terrorism under president obama, and joe biden counters that cheney is either misinformed or misleading the american people. julie kirtz sorts it out, live from d.c. hi there, julie. >> reporter: it was the closest joe biden and dick cheney have come to an actual debate, vice president joe biden up first on the sunday talk shows and blasted the man he replaced saying cheney is factually wrong and in his words, as you say, either misinformed or misinforming about the current administration's commitment to fighting terrorism. cheney, as you know, a fierce critic of the obama white house uses softer tones today but the core of his argument centered on what he believes is obama's misguided policies whether for example the accused christmas day bomber should have been read his miranda rights. >> let me choose my words carefully here. dick cheney's a fine fellow. he's entitled to his own give. he's not entitled to rewrite history. he's not entitled to his own facts. the christmas day bomber was treated the exact way that he suggested that the shoe bomber was treated. >> my reference to the notion the president was trying to avoid treating this is a war was in relation to his initial response when we heard about the christmas underwear bomber, over detroit and he went out and said it was the act of an isolated extremist. no, it wasn't. >> reporter: cheney also took chew with joe biden's point repeated today that the obama white house had been successful in winding down the warren iraq instead of take -- war in iraq and instead of taking credit he says the white house should be thanking former president bush and called a recent statement by the obama white house on iraq a little strange. julie. >> julie: julie kirtz live in washington, thank you. >> gregg: this is a "fox news alert." look at those pictures. dozens of weather related crashes shutting down stretches of several highways, this is the kansas city area, three different highways, ambulances on the scene trying to treat the injured. the extent of which is just not known. one of the cashes, i-35, in kansas, 30 vehicles there, a pile-up along 435, kansas city, kansas, 40 vehicles in a chain reaction, unbelievable these pictures, let's go to domenica davis, standing by in the weather center, talk to us about the weather conditions there. >> right now they are dealing with mostly cloudy skies, and about 25 degrees, right now, the kansas city area, and that is making for some slick roads, with the a little bit of snow on the ground and it is due to the clipper system moving through and it is going to make for snow/sleet mix and fairly light until midnight and then the accumulation will come in and these roads are not only going to stay slick tonight but through tomorrow morning and is really a sign of how dangerous wilt g will get out there as the system pushes east and will rev up its engines after midnight when you can expect from the missouri valley over to the ohio valley, significant accumulations, for those folks, and we're looking in louisville, 3-6 inches, could have isolated areas that get 8 inches in kentucky, and, parts of the tennessee and missouri valley and is a significant amount of snowfall. as the system pushes off to the east, it will encounter moisture, as the pressure system hugs the ocean and will make for a rain/snow mix and another mid-atlantic we aren't talking a big snowstorm for once and as the push is in, to washington, philadelphia and through new york, cup monday, a rain/snow mix with lighter amounts. but in the meantime tonight especially conditions will only be deteriorating, from here on in after the -- up to the missouri valley. >> gregg: treacherous out there, thanks very much. >> julie: a surfing contest turns dangerousesen northern california, two large waves suddenly wash over a seawall, remember the video? it happened yesterday and caught dozens of people off guard and knocking them to their feet. dramatic stuff here and a recycle beach, obviously, injuring many, leaving some with broken bones, and is a pretty scary sight. and ken pritchett from ktvu was there when the wave struck. >> massive... >> reporter: the invitation only contest started at 8:00 a.m. with 24 of the world's best big wave surfers towed out on jet-skis. >> might hit records today. >> reporter: yooen, a half moon bay surfer charging these waterses for years, set out early and monster waves getting the best of him. >> i went head over heels and i made the drop and, it was like fully adrenalin and the whitewater blasted me and rolled me all the way into the rocks. >> reporter: an estimated 20,000 spectators warned to stay away from the roiling water near the beach and searched for safe, dry spots to view the action. >> and victor tried not to miss the surf competition or the minute of the action. >> it is something now. >> reporter: and a spectator from palo alto found a perch and her interest, the spectacle, more and the surfing. >> our thanks to ktv, that was not ken pritchett or maybe it was and he has a high pitched voice... i never met him. >> gregg: kawabunga, an amateur pilot getting a serious scare while flying his plane over a california highway. james riordan crash-landing ois hinge -- his single engine plane and the plane clipped a jeep cherokee and crashed and spun on the highway and the pilot and everybody inside the automobile escaped without a scratch. the accident closing off traffic, so the plane could be, well, taken off the road. this is the third accident for riordan, who called his most recent crash, quote, a ride! might wanted to think of a different pursuit. >> julie: independent voters came out strong for president obama in the last election but will they go his way in 2012? a new poll that should have the white house worried. >> gregg: an electrical transformer going absolutely hay wire outside a television station and more on that video -- pretty frightening -- straight ahead. >> julie: and a message from our troops to loved ones back home and we're playing them throughout the show. take' listen: >> i'm stationed in iraq and would like to wish a happy valentine's day to my wife and my daughter in oklahoma city, oklahoma. miss you guys and love you 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re-election, a "gallup poll" shows 45% of independents would vote for a republican quiet in 2012, with only 31% going to president obama and where is the president -- has he gone wrong, if you can call it that? joining us to talk about that, mike gallagher, and nancy skinner. mike, let me start with you. independents, who seem to be fleeing the president are at heart centrists. so are they leaving him because they feel as though he's moved too far to the left, away from their views? >> that is an interesting way to put the question, because you are right. we are probably, i think most people would acknowledge, a center right nation and if independents are at heart centrists there is nothing about the obama administration that they could relate to. the fact is the president is losing the country. and everybody knows it on both sides of the aisle. liberal democrats, feel he's not doing enough, independents, have been betrayed by him and republicans, well, we know what he was like all long when he was rung for president, and they are in big trouble at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and know it and are under siege and i think both sides, everybody -- >> gregg: nancy, michael barone is a legendary columnist, "u.s. news & world report" and has a send indicated column and does work for us and i'm put his quote up on the screen. here's his analysis. the same people who directed the campaign have within a year come up with a legislative program that is crashing in ruins and that, to judge from recent polls, has left the democratic party weaker than i have seen it in almost 50 years of closely following politics. does the problem reside with his staff? or the president's ambitions? >> i think the problem resides with the mess he inherited, gregg. and, the ability -- now look at the polls, look at two-and-a-half years, a lot of time he has made such substantial progress on the economy. from taking over the economy, 6.5% negative gdp growth, turning it less that in year to a 6% positive, going from 700,000 lost jobs to 20,000 lost jobs a month, its in credible and the time -- it is incredible and as he makes progress you'll see the independents feeling bertz about the economy. >> gregg: michael i snow you are -- know you are shaking your head and you saw the cbs poll that came out last thursday, majority of americans agree he inherited a lot of his problems. >> and we are a country that loves to blame somebody else for somebody's problems and we do that as a culture and i wonder, nancy, how many years into this perhaps one-term president will you guys stop blaming george bush for everything that goes wrong in the obama administration, how long, two, three, four years? it's an easy excuse and the economic stimulus -- hold on, 10% plus unemployment? is that george w. bush's fault as well? the stimulus is not working go ahead. >> let me jump in here. because i think the -- what gregg mentioned, the poll he mentioned people get he inherited not just the economy but the banks were on the verge of collapse, you have republicans, you have the bush administration doing the first stimulus $480 billion, before he even took office, and admitting the need and another point i want to get to a point about the poll you are talking about and that is, it is a generic number, independents favor generically in the "gallup poll" which could be suspect and when you put a face on it, sarah palin on the ticket, obama crushes her by 20 points. >> keep that up, you keep that up. >> it is a different thing, generic polls versus actual candidates and it is easy to throw -- >> hey, nancy, you guise guys keep bashing the tea party movement and sarah palin because you are out of touch with realizing how message resonates with middle america, that is okay. >> i gave you a poll number, 20-point -- >> gregg: mike it's a fair assessment and that is palin and also, she has high negatives and mitt romney not so. >> not as highs barack obama's negs. >> gregg: candidate obama campaigned on the promise of bipartisanship and he'd transcend the bickering of partisan politics and has he forsaken the promise -- >> listen police broken promise after promise and ask liberals about don't ask don't tell and why he has let them down on that and ask about the promise not to tax the middle class. this is one of the least bipartisan presidents we have seen, george bush, looks positively winston church-wellian -- >> who is to blame for that, who do you blame for the lack of bipartisanship? republicans have given him a single vote, except one on fiscal stimulus, and filibustering 70% of the nominations, did you know you had like paul volcker was on today, talk about, he is so upset that they don't have -- high level at the treasury, they cannot get candidates in there, to -- as undersecretary -- >> gregg: did the president misjudge the inherent distaste americans have for expanded governmental control over their lives and that is the one common denominator. >> big time. >> gregg, that was not by choice. he did not want to have to have -- >> gregg: oh, nancy, come on. i wasn't born yesterday. >> it was called -- an economic collapse. on the verge of the great depression. >> and, i'm begging you, nancy, answer the question, how long before you stop blaming bush, two years, three years? pick a number, when do you stop in when? >> that wasn't the question. >> yes, it was. that is my question. >> we had to they can emergency measures, it is like blaming the physician in the emergency room who just saved your life when you get off the ventilator, okay? >> gregg: maybe the president can blame proposal and reid, ceding too much power to them. >> i agree with that. >> gregg: oh, okay. >> he needs to be tougher on congress. >> gregg: thanks, nancy concern and mike gal ler, good to see you. >> happy valentine's day. >> julie: a powerful transformer explosion caught on tape. watch this: those aren't fireworks, that is an explosion, here you can see the blast. and it really left residents in north augusta, south carolina without power friday night and the electrical transformer flashing brightly, before fizzing out in snow and blew up outside a local tv studio and fortunately, for them, that he station did not lose power. cool to watch. >> gregg: it is, the surveillance tape shocking the nation. have you seen it yet? security guards, the guards in the vests, standing by idly while a girl is violently, viciously beaten by another teenage girl, and were the guards following policy? could they face charges? who gets sued here, because i promise you somebody will... we'll ask our fox legal panel, coming up. 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joining me now is our legal panel, david wool and kiesha heaven and i bet most people think what the security guards did is reap press hencible and inreview -- reprehensible and from a legal standpoint is there a duty to intervene. >> no question, the girl was pummeled to inches of her life and there is no doubt about it and have a contract, and they are supposed to just observe and report. and there are two problems with that, gregg, number one, that has to be an exception when someone is close to losing their life, in great risk of sear yaws bodily injury and there has to be an officer nearby, someone who can respond when these guys actually make the call that someone is getting hurt. and contrast it to a concert security guard and if you jump up on stage you will be tackled and unceremoniously removed from the show and these guys stood by and put their hands in their pockets and did nothing. >> gregg: we checked the contract and it doesn't expressly forbid the guards from intervening and i ask the same question, a legal duty. >> what we have to remember is these guards are civilians, and they do not have the same immunity that the police department would have. so, therefore, them responding -- and it is a good samaritan thing to help but for them to intervene they open themselves and the company up to great liability, and i feel they did what was the best thing to do and should report it and, i think if anything, the police should be responsible for not responding. >> gregg: let me stick with you for a moment and talk about lawsuits, when an owner and operator of a premise invites people onto the property, invitees, there is, therefore, a legal duty to make sure it is safely maintained and protected. is the policy here, which says report and observe, only, sentence that negligence, per se? >> gregg i can't say ishtint isy have an obligation to report it... >> gregg: you have and an obligation to provide safety and security when you invite people onto their premises. >> and they can ask disruptive people to leave and if they interfered in the violent outburst they could injure somebody and be liable. >> oh, boy. oh, boy. >> gregg: david? >> this isn't like a purse snatching where the purse is snatches, they will not chase him and the girl was repeatedly pummeled and knocked unto the lane where the buses were coming through, and she -- it looked to me like she was going to be murdered there, to be frank with you and thank god she's okay. these guys did nothing, all they had to do was shove these girls, the one girl who was the main purpose traitor to the ground and knock her away and sit on her until the cops got there and they did absolutely nothing and the policy is negligence and... >> gregg: you know what, what tells us that this is a negligent policy and the plaintiff will probably win, in a lawsuit, is the fact that king county metro, which contracted with the security company, to provide those guards, they have all now changed their practice, so they do have to provide safety and security and intervene. >> well, gregg, again i understand they changed this policy, which is a great thing, but, also -- >> gregg: they know it was wrong. >> are they trained to handle the situations. >> julie: >> gregg: when you provide security guards you must train them to provide security not stand around, and with their hands in their pockets and do nothing. come on. >> but to what extent? do they have weapons? and training, okay, they are private civilians and are not going to that he have same police academy training officers have and we need to look fleept and why weren't they there and why weren't they responding. >> gregg: now they are and bear responsibility, too, don't they, david. >> they do. and that is the thing and now chief of please says we'll station an officer at every underground bus terminal from now on and know the policy is wrong and ultimately the city will hold the bag and they hired somebody with a negligent policy and governmental immunity is tough to get around but i don't think so in this case. >> gregg: and when you put security guards there you are representing to the public that you are secure. the terminology, security, guard. that is a false representation, upon which this victim relied because she told police she went to the bus depot because she thought those guards would protect her, as she fled her atta attackers. >> this is not just a situation with the seattle case, security guards and civilians all over this country have limited responsibility because of liability issues. and, they north trained, and look at all those guards are paid. they are not paid a lot. >> they should use the example of a concert. when you jump on stage at a concert do the guards sit around with hands in their pockets and no, they tabling you and restrain you and toss you out of the arena. >> gregg: the good news as we wrap it up is the attacker is a 15-year-old girl, is arrested and pled not guilty which is on its face preposterous since the videotape demonstrates there is no defense and you cannot claim self-defense with the videotape and david and keisha, thank you both. >> thank you, gregg. >> julie: a head on crash with a tour bus belonging to country music star trace adkins killing two people, the driver and passenger of a pickup truck involved in the wreck and the men died on impact after crossing the center line of the highway. and plowing into the tour burks five people on the bus were hospitalized with nonlife-threatening injuries and trace adkins was not on board at the time, he arrived 30 minutes later after the crash and spoke with an emergency responding. >> julie: a scene at a dallas zoo, 180 pound gorilla briefly escaping from her living quarters but was returned to her enclosure before she ventured too far and the zoo closed at the time and officials say the gorilla somehow got out of her living area, and don't really know how. she was discovered when a worker saw her on top of the enclosure. and her name is too-funny and he's 19 and the zoo beefed up security since another gorilla escaped six years ago, but clearly not enough. >> julie: party time in rio de janeiro. don't you wish you were there. >> gregg: i love carnival. the beat goes on... one city that knows how to throw a really big celebration. with not a lot of clothes. >> julie: a big celebration, huh? >> gregg: i big celebration. we'll take you there, next. we do more than just answer phones. we give you peace of mind. i have diabetes like a lot of us here, so we understand. compassion. patience. you'll find it anytime you call. our customers say we're number one. plus, they're grateful we're located in the us, where we also manufacture... the accu-chek aviva meters and test strips. americans carinfor americans. that makes us proud. accu-chek customer care born in the usa. >> julie: carnival celebrations are in full force and in brazil, 100 degree temperatures are not slowing them down, one bit! crowds are flocking to the streets for singing and dancing, and a massive block party. anxioused in new orleans, thousands of mardi gras revelers turned out for the super... >> gregg: i have no idea how you pronounce that. >> julie: crew of endemian parade and the theme is abarakadabara, it is all about magic and this carnival season wraps up on "fat tuesday," two days from now. looks like they are having fun. >> gregg: oh, boy, they are and what will be the hot toy this year, last year was the zhu zhu pets, and in the economy parents want to know what is cheap and what is fun for the kids. and will not break the bank for the family. and where do you find the coolest toys and gadgets on the planet? you have to hang out with our own laura ingle, who has been spending the day walk around the international toy fair, in new york city, hi, laura. >> reporter: hey, gregg, we are talking about affordable toys and always about safe toys and a few years ago, i was doing live shots from the this corner, where the power poppers were going on and let me give you one there, quick and we have won't who will show us the latest. >> this is the camel tower popper. >> reporter: very nice. and fun, fun and we'll take a little walk and i will show you a couple of things, renee is a trend expert, at the toy fair and talking about different things parents are looking for and this is about retailers. >> yes. retailers are the only ones allowed at the show, it's not a consumer show. let's see the next product. >> reporter: we talked about this last hour, every kid that played with play dough wants this eat it. what is your name. >> stephan. >> reporter: and this company is play-smart and this is... yummy dough and is actually like play dough. >> edible play dough because children put it into their mouths and thought it was a good idea to come up with edible play dough. >> reporter: you got the idea from your kids. >> yes. >> reporter: and is this play dough you can play with it and you can item but it is meant to be eent. >> it is meant to be eaten. eat it raw or put it into the oven and eat it as cookies! >> reporter: very good, and i promised i would eat a piece of play dough, yummy dough, and i have to take a piece. it's not bad. i can bring it back for julie and she can eat the rest of the "fox." and i'll eat and talk and this is the zhu zhu pet, last we're wetkins was popular. >> they are popular, they are affordable and last year people couldn't find them during the christmas season and there is penalty-up demand and there year there are wild pets an rock star pets. >> rock star pets! >> great for only $10 and people don't want a real hamster and kids want to have a little pet and they are great. >> and toy sales did well last year in the u.s. over 24 billion. >> 21.5 billion, almost $22 billion, last year. >> reporter: and toys are definitely recession-proof. and this is just another way to show you that they are making toys, and have a lot of great ideas, over 7,000 new products, and we'll keep you informed on foxnews.com, back to you. >> gregg: was the play dough really that good? >> reporter: it wasn't bad. tasted actually like cookie dough. >> julie: it looked like you ate... >> gregg: julie wants them, she's eating for two, bring a double dose! >> reporter: you got it! >> julie: i love play dough, a "fox news alert," police in kansas are saying it is the worst crash they have seen, have ever seen, look at the pile-up, dozens of weather related crashes in fact, around the region. shutting down stretches of several highways in the kansas city area. several ambulances rushed to the scene, to treat the injured but the extent of the injuries not immediately known, the kansas city star reporting one crash on i-35 involved up to 30 vehicles and another pile-up along i-435 in kansas city, kansas involve up to 40 vehicles. multiple accidents also reported along i-70. and the kansas department of transportation says i-70 will remain closed for several hours. authorities are urging motorists to use caution, as the falling snow as you can see there, makes driving more difficult. wow! what a cold, chilly white mess. >> gregg: the only time i was involved in one of those was in kansas. >> julie: a pile-up. >> gregg: chain reaction, snow-driven, multi--car chain reaction and it was awful. >> julie: on a bridge. >> gregg: part of it what's the bridge and the rest the highway. everywhere, jobs, jobs, jobs. president obama says that is the priority and one group of business owners begs to differ. what some edealers are doing, a fight for their piece of the pie, in the wake of the domestic auto crisis, next and this valentine's day a special message from our troops serving overseas to their loved ones back home. here it is. >> i'm major april conway, in the air national guard stationed with the 332nd expeditionary winning at ballad and i'd like to wish my parents a happy 45th wedding anniversary and my husband carter and our kids, hobby valentine's day! i love you guys, i'll see you this summer. so i was the guy wr going to have the heart attack. i thought i was invincible. i'm on an aspirin regimen now because i never want to feel that helplessness again. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. talk to your doctor, and take care of what you have to take ca of. >> julie: at a time when president obama is trying to create jobs, automakers are taking them away. in june, chrysler shut down 789 dealers, all in an effort to make the remaining dealers more profitable. and, gm revoked franchise agreements for 2,000 of their dealers, back in october. the combined shut down, ultimately cost about 300,000 jobs. now, thousands of business owners are fighting the -- to overturn the companies' decisions in court, take a listen: >> rob rob ingle is one of thousands of dealers fighting to get their franchises back. in june, rob's tight workforce of 60 employees was wiped out, when he received a phone call from chrysler informing him his two family dealerships in new jersey were being terminated. >> we were in total, total shock, didn't expect the call, it was followed up a few minutes later by a fedex letter. >> reporter: just three weeks after receiving the letter, the parking lot once bustling with cars, customers and employees, vacant. a complete ghost of what it once was. >> chrysler jeep are at it again... more of the all new 2004 chrysler pacificas. >> reporter: from sales to service, the ingles but customers first, a commitment made by their father when he began the business in 1960, a tank mechanic, for the british during world war ii, he escaped the nazis, to pursue the american dream. a successful business passed on to his sons, only to have it ripped away with no warning, when business was good. >> my brother and we were both crying and had to let everyone go. >> reporter: now, burdened with massive mortgages, rob is paying $50,000 in legal fees to fight for his livelihood and his wife's income sustains the family. over 1500 dealers filed paperwork with the american arbitration association. which congressman dated to handle the bitter dispute with carmakers. >> someone is going to feel they won probably and someone will feel they lost and one might have the expense of going through the process, and not come out with a decision that you want. >> reporter: carmakers defend the effort to make the remaining dealers more profitable. consolidating our dealer network was one of the most painful aspects of gm's restructuring process. chrysler says the company looks forward to the expeditious completion of the process and rob says the only saving grace is his father is not alive to see what has become of his american dream. >> julie: joining us with more, new jersey congress manned democrat, congressman pa lone, serving on the commerce and energy committee. thanks tor talking to us. 300,000 americans lost their jobs and they were working nor the automakers and let me remind the view, the automakers were bailed out by whom, taxpayers and the taxpayers are losing their jobs. now, i know congress essentially, passed a law last month that required the appeals process for dealers and now they are in arbitration but, can't congress do any more to require these carmakers to keep these businesses that are doing well, in business? >> we may have to, julie. i mean, i think the problem here is a tleeflots of the car dealee successful and are doing everything the automakers told them to do and were making a profit and the arbitration process is good because at least there is a method to appeal things but if we find out that most of these cases really were wrongly closed down, and shouldn't the have been, then perhaps we should do more. >> julie: and the gentleman i interviewed who was in business for 60 years, doing great... the reason was chrysler said they essentially had to shut down, they had two weeks and the reason being because they wanted to make other car dealers in the area more profitable and so, because maybe he didn't have enough traffic, but the larger town was doing well, and they allowed them to get more business, and they are stealing from one business to give to another at the cost of jobs and it doesn't seem right. >> also, it is arbitrary. i mean, from what i can see you, the way they made decisions about which ones to keep and which ones to close is arbitrary and a lot of times, don't seem to make much sense and we have to monitor it and perhaps do more. >> julie: sources say chrysler is weighing a federal lawsuit to stop the appeals and the process could cost hundreds of millions of dollars, to the automakers. but what about the cost to all of the people who lost their jobs and what about the cost of all of those people who no longer have health insurance and isn't that what the government says, 2010 is all about, creating jobs and giving people more health care and why is it the government is allowing the autoic makers to get away with this? so far, they have. >> i think the government hayes responsibility, to make sure that we don't lose all of the jobs. if at all possible. i mean, as you point out, we actually gave the manufacturers money through the bailout, and we can actually force them to take certain actions. i think the arbitration was the first step, because i think the feeling was some of these maybe should be in business and others shouldn't but if we find out that most of these really should be allowed to stay open, i think we just have to do more. >> julie: and about 80%, by the way, of the car dealers that remained open, basically the franchises were taken away and they cannot sell new cars but can still sell old cars, used cars and also parts but that is not going to pay this bills. and the guy i talked to had tens of thousands of dollars in mortgage payments per month. he was shut down back in june. this guy all the money that he has made is gone. if he reopens he has to get a partner. >> and also, for example, gm sales are doing better now compared to toyota, for example. so, it may very well be they can sell more cars. >> julie: congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> gregg: remember the story of the roof collapse in suburban pittsburgh, pennsylvania? here's the good news. everybody got out alive and apparently, there are no injuries. and we speculated maybe there was a warning, well, yes. a huge cracking sound alerted people they escaped in time. and then the roof collapsed. that is the good news. >> julie: that will do it for us, "fox news sunday" with chris wallace starts at the top of the hour. >> gregg: have a great week. eating healthy is important, but only vegetables can give you vegetable nutrition. one of these will get you more than half way to your five daily servings. v8. what's your number? wellbeing. we're all striving for it. purina cat chow helps you nuture it in your cat... with a full family of excellent nutrition... and helpful resources. ♪ purina cat chow. share a better life. we give you peace of mind. i have diabetes like a lot of us here, so we understand. compassion. patience. you'll find it anytime you call. our customers say we're number one. plus, they're grateful we're located in the us, where we also manufacture... the accu-chek aviva meters and test strips. americans carinfor americans. that makes us proud. accu-chek customer care born in the usa.

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