that is what this entailed trial is about. nada tawfik has been following all the twists and turns. i think we can go to her now. just bring us up—to—date. absolutely, we have heard thejudge has announced he will call the jury in. we were called in for the jury reading out whether they have found donald trump guilty or not guilty on the 34 donald trump guilty or not guilty on the 3a counts of comp to falsifying it as is. then the otherjurors will have to agree. if donald trump is found guilty onjust have to agree. if donald trump is found guilty on just one of those. he will be a convicted felon. a lot at stake clearly for it on from here. he is clearly hoping that this swift decision — not too swift, 11 hours, but that this decision coming on the second day of deliberations will be one that is favourable to him. but we are hearing a lot of tense atmosphere at the defence table right now. donald trump, who was just table right now. donald trump, who wasjustjoking table right now. donald trump, who was justjoking with his lawyers before the judge was notified that there was a verdict, is now sitting there was a verdict, is now sitting there calmly with his arms crossed with his defence lawyers. he was the first prosecutor to ever bring charges against a former president. this is a career defining moment for him as well. he will soon also here is his team of prosecutors that wasn't strong enough to convince this jury of seven men and five women to find donald trump guilty on all or some counts. so the jury is going to be getting into the room slowly and surely, they will be coming in. thejudge has reminded the court that there will be absolutely no outbursts and i can just tell you there is a real air of anticipation outside as we all wait to see what the decision is. covering this update in the public. protesters from both sides gathered. we can't say enough how monumental this moment is. we are watching pictures of you and of the doors to that courthouse. just remind us, you said they did come back and have questions for thejudge. tell said they did come back and have questions for the judge. tell us more about that. questions for the “udge. tell us more about that._ questions for the “udge. tell us more about that. . �* , ,, more about that. that's right, sumi. they wanted — more about that. that's right, sumi. they wanted to _ more about that. that's right, sumi. they wanted to have _ more about that. that's right, sumi. they wanted to have the _ more about that. that's right, sumi. they wanted to have the judges' - they wanted to have the judges' instructions read back. it was portion that really dealt with how they should interpret the law, what inferences they can make from the evidence in order to find the prosecution had proved or not proven their case beyond reasonable doubt. we keep talking about how this is a legally complex case. michael cohen was considered an accomplice. so the jury was considered an accomplice. so the jury couldn't rely on his word below. prosecutors argued that they didn't need to, that there was so much indisputable evidence, that backed up what he said. if theyjust use their common sense, they would see the strong testimony from his inner circle, his own age that was with him every day —— aid, that is a fixer turned foe, who would lie and cheat on his behalf, is finally telling the truth. that tape recording of donald trump, even a tweet in which he called the hush money payment reimbursement, will lead them in one direction only — that donald trump was guilty. the defence on the other hand didn't want to make this a case about anybody other than michael cohen. they said that he simply couldn't be trusted because he is out for revenge, he was a convicted felon, an admitted liar, he admitted stealing from donald trump. but sumi, as you point out, they want part testimony from michael cohen, but mostly — and donald trump has been found guilty on count one, the first former president to be convicted in a criminal trial. this is a historic moment. this a monumentous moment in us politics, a defining one. donald trump to continue to shatter the norms of the nation's highest office, donald trump found guilty on count one, sumi. we are going to the rest of those counts. but already, this is absolutely historic — donald trump losing this case, the jury finding the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he tried to corrupt the 2016 election by creating a conspiracy and falsifying business records to cover it up. guilty on count two, guilty on count three. , three. cheering that stopped - three. cheering that stopped me three. cheering l that stopped me in three. cheering - that stopped me in my three. cheering _ that stopped me in my tracks. i three. cheering — that stopped me in my tracks. i can hear the cheering.— hear the cheering. there is interruption. _ hear the cheering. there is interruption. throughout . hear the cheering. there is i interruption. throughout the hear the cheering. there is - interruption. throughout the trial, we have heard groups of protesters across from the courthouse and the public park. they have clearlyjust got the news. there have been well—known numbers of donald trump's harshest critics who have held up signs saying convict donald trump, saying signs saying donald trump need to be held accountable. i'll ask if my camera man is able to spin the camera to look at what is happening here, because there it is. roger stone has just turned happening here, because there it is. roger stone hasjust turned up. i don't know if you can see, but roger stone, i believe, that is him. i apologise if i got that wrong. many people nowjust observing the news. nada, take us back to the counts. we're seeing 16 guilty counts, more than half. yes, let's remember that these counts really run together because these are in relation to 11 checks, ii these are in relation to 11 checks, 11 invoices and 12 businesses —— cheques. 11 invoices and 12 businesses -- cheuues. �* , ., ., �* 11 invoices and 12 businesses -- cheuues. �* , ., ., ~ g; cheques. i'm 'ust going to... all 34 counts, i cheques. i'm just going to. .. all 34 counts, ithink— cheques. i'm just going to. .. all 34 counts, i think we _ cheques. i'm just going to. .. all 34 counts, i think we are _ cheques. i'm just going to. .. all 34 counts, i think we are getting. - cheques. i'm just going to. .. all 34j counts, i think we are getting. he's guilty on all counts. 50. counts, i think we are getting. he's guilty on all counts.— guilty on all counts. so, sumi, donald trump _ guilty on all counts. so, sumi, donald trump has _ guilty on all counts. so, sumi, donald trump has been - guilty on all counts. so, sumi, donald trump has been on - guilty on all counts. so, sumi, i donald trump has been on guilty guilty on all counts. so, sumi, - donald trump has been on guilty on all 34 counts. these really run together. they were going to buy into the case that all trump order these business records. then you really did assume that donald trump might be guilty on all that account. nevertheless, they found there was enough evidence to back up the prosecution's argument that donald trump directed all this. so, donald trump directed all this. so, donald trump guilty on all 34 accounts. the first former president to be convicted in a criminal trial. he will now be of convicted felon in the history books. and sumi, of course, on the ballot in november, voters will now have to contend with if they are comfortable voting for the republican presumptive nominee to run the nation's highest office to run the nation's highest office to go into the white house when he has been found to be a convicted felon who is interested in corrupting the 2016 election to get into power. you can probably hear the sounds around me. there are a bit of scuffles between protesters in the park, as both sides battle — very passionate, course. they are very passionate, course. they are very invested in the outcome. it is just a microcosm of the divisions in america. donald trump, such a polarising figure. for his opponents, this will really resonate with them as him finally being held accountable for his supporters, and they will see him as a martyr. so, sumi, now we'll wait to see donald trump's reaction to this. hat sumi, now we'll wait to see donald trump's reaction to this.— nada, stay right there. i want to go to former watergate prosecutor nick ackerman. nick, we spoke to yesterday. i want to get your reaction to this verdict— guilty on all 34 counts. i’m reaction to this verdict- guilty on all 34 counts.— reaction to this verdict- guilty on all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised- — all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised- i _ all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised. i think— all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised. i think as _ all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised. i think as i _ all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised. i think as i told - all 34 counts. i'm not the least bit surprised. i think as i told you - surprised. i think as i told you yesterday, based on those two smoking gun notes of weisel berg and connie, the two trump organisation employees, based on the self—inflicted wounds of footing bob costello as part of defence. based on what we heard from the jury this morning, they went right from the jugular in terms of going to the core of the allegations here by asking for evidence to be read back about the august 2015 meeting at trump tower attended by trump, david packer and michael cohen —— david pecker. just between donald trump and david pecker. it seems that everything was going in that direction. i'm not surprised. donald trump convicted _ direction. i'm not surprised. donald trump convicted of _ direction. i'm not surprised. donald trump convicted of falsifying - trump convicted of falsifying records in the first former president trial... take is how historic this is from your perspective. historic this is from your perspective-_ historic this is from your perspective. historic this is from your --ersective. . , ., perspective. having been involved in the water-ski _ perspective. having been involved in the water-ski case, _ perspective. having been involved in the water-ski case, if— perspective. having been involved in the water-ski case, if president - the water—ski case, if president ford had not pardoned donald trump backin ford had not pardoned donald trump back in 1974 and we had invited him —— post watergate, this would not be the big deal with us today. this is a big deal because it is the first and is the first time us president in our entire history has ever been convicted of a crime— and not only that, you could be the presidential nominee for the republican party and ironically, as a convicted felon, he not be able to vote for himself. take us through these counts and what they men. talk is there why you think the jurors what they men. talk is there why you think thejurors came what they men. talk is there why you think the jurors came out with this verdict? i think the “urors came out with this verdict? ~ ., , ., , ,., , verdict? i think it was absolutely overwhelming. _ verdict? i think it was absolutely overwhelming. it _ verdict? i think it was absolutely overwhelming. it wasn't - verdict? i think it was absolutely overwhelming. it wasn't just - verdict? i think it was absolutely - overwhelming. it wasn'tjust michael cohen's testimony, it was david pecker�*s testimony. they discussed how they would buy the right from karen mcdougall. right from the get go that related to what the national enquirer did in terms of boosting up trump, knocking down his competitors and what they did in terms of paying off two of the catch and kill individuals, do you know the doorman and karen mcdougall, who was the playboy playmate. almost everything about this case is in the document. it's almost like if you took the witness is a way, you could follow the documents and see exactly what happened here. ithink the documents and see exactly what happened here. i think this is what thejury did. they happened here. i think this is what the jury did. they went right back to david pecker, they went right back to that meeting at trump tower and started from there and emanated from there. because all of those false entries on the trump organisations. the conclusion was absolutely obvious. whether or not michael cohen had lied, i think it was pretty clear from the costello testimony that he was lying in order to protect donald trump. 0nce testimony that he was lying in order to protect donald trump. once he started cooperating, he was telling a whole different story, supported by other witnesses. this a whole different story, supported by other witnesses.— a whole different story, supported by other witnesses. this is the core ofthe by other witnesses. this is the core of the defence's _ by other witnesses. this is the core of the defence's closing argument i of the defence's closing argument and their defence is michael cohen is a liar. that didn't commit jurors? is a liar. that didn't commit “urors? ., . is a liar. that didn't commit 'urors? ., . . is a liar. that didn't commit “urors? ., ., ., , , , is a liar. that didn't commit “urors? ., ., ., , , jurors? not at all, because they can show what he _ jurors? not at all, because they can show what he said _ jurors? not at all, because they can show what he said here _ jurors? not at all, because they can show what he said here was - show what he said here was fully corroborated. even though he was an accomplice witness, what they were able to show through mr pepper, through hope pics, through able to show through mr pepper, through hope pics, throutheffrey mcconaughey, —— mr that supported everything that everybody was saying about how he operated his business. —— mr david pecker. if michael cohen was a liar, it was because he was lying to protect donald trump. that became extremely clear through the bob costello testimony. find extremely clear through the bob costello testimony.— extremely clear through the bob costello testimony. and we've 'ust been looking fl costello testimony. and we've 'ust been looking at i costello testimony. and we've 'ust been looking at some i costello testimony. and we've 'ust been looking at some of i costello testimony. and we've 'ust been looking at some of the h costello testimony. and we've just l been looking at some of the pictures of the courthouse. the fact that donald trump was in the courthouse for these six weeks, tell us what you think this must�*ve been like for him. it you think this must've been like for him. . ., �* you think this must've been like for him. _, �* ., , ., him. it couldn't have been a pleasant — him. it couldn't have been a pleasant situation. - him. it couldn't have been a pleasant situation. he - him. it couldn't have been a pleasant situation. he had l him. it couldn't have been a. pleasant situation. he had no him. it couldn't have been a - pleasant situation. he had no choice but to be there. if you didn't show up, the sheriff would have come out and brought him in. he would have been forced to be there. there's no excuse for a defendant not showing up excuse for a defendant not showing up for a criminal trial. so, he had no choice but to be there. if you look at the expression on his face, the entire time, it looked like he was sitting on a cactus basically is the only way i can destroy it. he was in pain the whole time —— describe it. he was trying to play mr tough guy. what i was all there tuesday, and he did not look like a happy camper. what has happened is not a resume builder and is not going to be something that will to meet dashiell billy will help him win. . ., meet dashiell billy will help him win. ., , take, and reminding our viewers that donald trump is convicted of falsifying business records on all 34 counts — the first criminal trial of a former current president. it wasjust of a former current president. it was just about five or ten minutes ago that we heard the jury read out that verdict. let's go back to nada tawfik, who is outside the courthouse. if you can hear us, we have been talking aboutjust how the jury came to the jury. this was a unanimous verdict, and they several possibilities about which side made the best argument. it appears the prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before — prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you _ prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you get _ prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you get into _ prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you get into that, - prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you get into that, we - prosecution came out on top. yeah, and before you get into that, we do | and before you get into that, we do want to bring more updates. donald trump is still sat there with his lawyers. sentencing will take place, we heard, onjuly the 11th in the morning. they did that, the defence requested that at a later date because of a conflict with a hearing donald trump has in florida. so, donald trump has in florida. so, donald trump has in florida. so, donald trump will be sentenced in this case just days before the republican national convention. so, again, donald trump continuing to shatter the norms of the nation's highest office. months away from the election, we are already seeing just how much we are in unprecedented territory both legally and politically with this conviction. also, sumi, we saw a request from the defence to get this thrown out again. the defence to get this thrown out aaain. , . ., the defence to get this thrown out aaain. , ., ., ,,,, �* again. one second, nada. crosstalk let's see if he's _ again. one second, nada. crosstalk let's see if he's about _ again. one second, nada. crosstalk let's see if he's about to _ again. one second, nada. crosstalk let's see if he's about to say - again. one second, nada. crosstalk let's see if he's about to say a - let's see if he's about to say a few words. this is known from walking out after finding the jury's verdict. out after finding the “ury's verdict. , ., , ., out after finding the “ury's verdict. , , , verdict. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged _ verdict. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged trial _ verdict. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged trial by _ verdict. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged trial by a _ verdict. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged trial by a conflicted | was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge _ was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. it's a rigged trial and _ judge who was corrupt. it's a rigged trial and a _ judge who was corrupt. it's a rigged trial and a disgrace. they wouldn't rive trial and a disgrace. they wouldn't give us _ trial and a disgrace. they wouldn't give us a _ trial and a disgrace. they wouldn't give us a venue change. we were at five or— give us a venue change. we were at five or 6% _ give us a venue change. we were at five or 6% in — give us a venue change. we were at five or 6% in this district in this area _ five or 6% in this district in this area this_ five or 6% in this district in this area. this was a rigged, disgraceful triab _ area. this was a rigged, disgraceful triab the _ area. this was a rigged, disgraceful trial. the real verdict is going to be november the 5th by the people, and they— be november the 5th by the people, and they know what happened here and everybody _ and they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. da and _ everybody knows what happened here. da and the _ everybody knows what happened here. da and the whole thing, we didn't do a thing _ da and the whole thing, we didn't do a thing wrong. i'm an innocent man. it's ok. _ a thing wrong. i'm an inn