understand where these stories fit in. >> i want to listen to the president talking about the stand your ground laws for just a second and then ask you about one part of it. >> and for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like the stand your ground laws, i just ask people to consider, if trayvon martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? and do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting mr. zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened? >> i'm going to ask you about that justification in just one moment. but we do now have, joining us from jacksonville, florida, ron davis, jordan's father, and his family's attorney, john phillips. mr. davis, i want to start with you, because i assume that the zimmerman verdict is something that is especially impactful for