conway,harold ford jr., jesse wattersand nothing can stop her.dana perino, "the five." the media finding new ways todefend and excuse a surge inanti-semitism.hamas' sypathizing ghouls have been ripping down posters of innocent israelis being held hostage."the new york times" wants you to consider the feelings of the vandals, "removing the posters as quickly emerged as its own form of protest."a release valve and also a provocation by those anguished by what they say was israeli government's mistreatment of palestinians in the years before october 7th and since the bombing of gaza began.i'm going to throw up.another outlet actually claims that the posters could be a trap and are baiting people into getting doxxed, and with garbage like that floating around, it probably won't be long until the left-wing press finds a way to normalize the cornell student who threatened to kill any jewish student he saw on campus.the feds arresting 21-year-old patrick dai for making online threats.he was in federal court to face the charges which could land him in jail for five years.the white house getting askedpoint blank if stuff like thatis domestic terrorism.>> the people in this country making anti-semitic threats, are they domestic terrorists?>> i don't know that -- classifying people as domestic terrorists for that.i mean, that is really a question better left to law enforcement.i'm not aware that there's been such a characterization of that.>> greg: terrible question, of course.you are not a domestic terrorist if you're not a white guy in a red hat.that is the rule.all right.dana, my theory on why they aredefending these people that aretearing down the posters isbecause the truth of the postersis too hard to bear.and it blows your filter of oppression versus oppressor filter right out of the water.it shatters your ego if you areon the other side.so i think what they are sayingis, is like, it is too hard tolook at.so get rid of it.>> dana: it is so hateful.they walk by so many otherthings that they could tear downbut they don't.they decide to tear down thepictures of children and earliertoday, or yesterday, i did a --an interview of marthamaccallum on her own podcastbecause she last week was at theisraeli consulate and she was part of a small group ofjournalists who was shown the 45minutes of the hamas goprovideos and the other videos that were put out.so it is -- her podcast iscalled "the untold story."it is definitely something thatwe should all listen to.she watched it and otherjournalists have watched it onour behalf.and she is shaken up by it.of course she is and what isshocking is that how quickly youcan go from being horrified bywhat happened by october 7thto tearing down posters.you think that is okay?alexandria ocasio-cortez, ilhan omar and rashida tlaib get this anti-semitic label but aoc is giving them a real run for their money.she went after aipac.meanwhile, she has all of theseincidents happening in her veryown city, and she does not say a word.remember when there were crimesagainst women in the city who were asian americans, nothing.but she will defend them.>> greg: she does not doanything for women in herconstituency.i think there's another reasonthey are defending these people.they got exposed.they are being filmed.so if they could get away withit, we would make a big deal, but now that media has to defend them because they could get in trouble.>> jesse: i want to saysomething about the muslimworld.i'm not going to hold your hand even though i should, dana.we, and when i say "we," i mean, the west and the westerntechnology have created the middle east.we made them rich.we got that oil out of theground.our military protects all ofthese oil shipments flyingaround the world, making themrich.we fund their military.with respect their kings.we kill their terrorists.okay?but we have had it.we have had it with them.obama, trump, now biden havetried to get the heck out ofthat stupid desert just as we are about to get out because we have this great balance of power we are branching.these crazy muslim fanatics comein and massacre over a thousandof our allies and hold jewish people hostage, hold americans hostage.and so if you are an arab american in this country and yourip down posters of jewishhostages, american hostages, no.no, no, no.someone is going to get punchedin the face.when you rip down posters ofthe hostages like that, this is --absolutely not.and "the new york times," the second sentence, greg, that i thought was worse, whose suffering should command public attention and sympathy?they have made suffering acommodity.they will put a price tag onemotional suffering.you know, is it the jews?is it black teens?the native americans?who has suffered the most?and he who suffered the most is allowed as you say a free punch and so now they have justified violence to avenge suffering and so now people are above the law.people are below the law, and that is making everybody crazy because we can't live in a country like that.and i won't live in a countrylike that.>> greg: could you imagine, i was thinking about this, that you can burn the american flag and generally people will just dismiss you as a nut.god forbid you burn apalestinian flag.yeah, i think you would bearrested.i don't know.not that i'm advocating that, of course.i'm against bringing anythingexcept my burning love forharold ford.how are you?>> harold: good to be back.it is tremendous to be back.i'm glad to be able tocontribute and put my voice as apart of this.i don't necessarily disagreewith what jesse has said.i think both parties in everyorganization and company haveits share of haters and bigots.and we are seeing a lot of thaton display now.i think sometimes when we try to have serious conversations, particularly in politics, really anywhere, it gets reduced sometimes to, i will be simplistic, the progressives or maga when things are more complicated and nuanced and deserve more inspection.two, i'm always amazed in the last two weeks as i hear people in my party, the republican party, i hear people on college campuses or elsewhere serious people seemingly say they want a cease-fire or some sort of pause but not before or at a time saying they -- we wish that hamas would give back the hostages.you can't have a pause or acease-fire until the hostagesare given back.it is hard -- you the can't eventake people like that usually ifthey're not willing to talkabout those kinds of things. two, the israeli/saudinormalization between -- we haveto remember huge part of that isall of us know was a two statesolution.something that would give thepalestinians predictability,stability, a chance and anability to raise their kids withthe kind of security that we allwish for our kids.and this is most has derailedthat in the worst of ways.i will end on this point, whichi don't mean to be political on,but i think we have toacknowledge that in politics, askellyanne and i both know anddana knows, perhaps more thananyone, i've worked in the whitehouse along with kenny --kellyanne.senators mcconnell, graham,president biden, they agree onsomething that is fundamental towhere we sit right now.let's fund ukraine, israel.let's fund the southern bordereffort and let's fund ourefforts in taiwan.it may not be the perfect bill.it may not be the perfectproposal but we can't wait threeto four weeks to get this done.so i would hope that those whowant to solve this and want tobe a part of the solution couldbe a part of the solution.and stop being a part of -- oncollege campuses and ourcongress.>> greg: that solution ofgrouping things together isalways just infuriating to me,you are not infuriating to me.you never will be.but just the idea of having toput these things altogether,what do you what do you thinkthere kellyanne?>> kellyanne: the houserepublicans are pushing back onthat.people don't all want all thosefunds and they don't want tothink of this is one big thing.i want to get back to the chyronwe are looking at the liberalmedia defense people rippingdown hostage posters.people should know thatpresident biden said, well, idon't really have confidence inhamas numbers and the washington post fact checker said, hamashas a pretty good track recordat revealing death tolls,defending them yet again.generic terms calling this arelease valve.if you are written down postersof israeli hostages, which youcorrectly points out and must bereturned, it is a release valve.they are not having a shot oftequila.even these subtle phrases thatsomehow passed an editor ortwo's desk that are somehowreporting facts to the rest ofus and i would like i would liketo point out in 2021, the firsttime and in 2023 at howarduniversity, president joe bidensaid that white supremacy is themost dangerous thing internetstates of america.that is what he said.you can even get john kirby tosay that this is domesticterrorism, people who areripping down posters.and i have to what is going onright now, the calls forcease-fires, the pro-hamassympathies, that is not justyoung people on collegecampuses.that is democrats in the hallsof congress.18 of them just last thursdaysigned a resolution calling forthe "immediate de-escalation andcease-fire in israel andoccupied palestine."so 18 democrats, all of whom arehispanic and african-american,exactly the kinds of folks thatjoe biden is going to rely uponto help him win again.and they are raging -- thenircam's had a whole articlethat said, young and the verseleft rages at biden.this is a big problem for theparty.i appreciate you trying to makeit bipartisan.i don't think don't think -- idon't think anyone should -- ithink this should be noquestion, everybody should becondemning what aoc said.aipac is a terroristorganization.that is who goes on trips withthem.they take everyone over there. we all need to know that somehowthe media weeks later, stillcan't get this right.he can't figure out and i thinkthat mainstream media is edgingtoward a moral clarity on this.>> greg: and 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>> the senator -->> would you answer myquestions?are you keeping track of them?>> when an individual is indeedrelease, they are released intoimmigration enforcementproceedings.>> dana: kellyanne, a bordercrisis disaster this magnitudewould be the biggest problem forany administration but for thebiden administration, it is likethe fourth biggest crisis on theplate right now.>> kellyanne: this is true chaosand crisis, not just in a tweetor in a press briefing room.this is real and you have ahomeland security secretary whohas probably been under oath acouple times or more testifyingto congress who can never answerthese questions because he isnot willing to answer themtruthfully.so he does not answer them atall.he does not know how manypeople.he does not know how many theyare, why they are here if theywill ever stop coming.and you know, it is the numberone disapproval rating for joebiden on any major issue, bordersecurity and immigration.i think it has been supersmartfor this issue to not just beseen about immigration but alsoborder security.so lots of people don't want totalk about immigration.they say it is about people.you get so many more youngpeople, voters of color,suburban women on your side whenyou talked about border securitybecause they see china stop thefence, the number one killer inour nation.this is about nationalsovereignty.people know we have spentbillions of dollars over decadesdefending the borders of othercountries and they think it ishigh time we do it here.the siena poll that came outhere in new york i thought wasjust eye popping, the weekbefore last week.what did it say?it said we have tried partisan agreement in new york of allplaces.a majority of democrats andmajority of independentsallstate that "that migrants innew york is a serious problem"eight in 10 overall, downstate,upstate, male, female,catholics, the majority ofjewish people, everyone agreesthis is a problem and they saythey agree with eric adams thatis going to "destroyed new yorkcity" and that is in new yorkwhere joe biden is under 50%against donald trump.this is the issue that alsofrance is dealing with now,germany, the swiss just electedsomeone running on this so it iseverywhere and i think if youare losing people in new yorkwho are living with it everysingle day, it tells yousomething.>> dana: and 9 million -- so thecost of biden's border crossing,new york is spending $2 billion.chicago has spent $150 million.denver, $24 million aside andthen joe brylie who is on thecity council in new york, hesaid, we are spending more permigrant per year to live in newyork city than we pay new yorkcity employees who have to livein new york city.it feels untenable, but are theydoing anything about it?>> harold: not enough.i think senator johnson, he wasright to ask that question.this is a national securitychallenge.it has been from the onset andonly proliferates as one.you may have heard the thingsthat kylian has laid out and wetalked about that on the showfor a long time.as we talk about polling toelect, there are three or fourthings that confound me.one is if you polled mostamericans and parents and i amone, you say, do you want toregulate big tech companies tohelp them not offer thesedangerous algorithms that kids,young girls and young -- 90%,nine to one.you ask people, should we havesome -- should be fight crimeand end this cashless bail? eight to one.people say we should absolutelydo it because it is going tohelp us hold more peopleaccountable.if you asked what we should dowith guns, people want to makesure people can have guns whoare mentally unfit to have oneand this issue here, to yourpoint, kylian, there is no doubtit quits across and we talkedabout race too much.i'm an american.i happen to be black.i want my border security, whatcrime falling aggressively.i want people held accountable.i want people to be treatedfairly at the border but at thesame time you should be able --these are things that shouldjust be done.and i hope that republicans anddemocrats alike and i wouldagree to my party has moreresponsibility at this momentbecause the president of theunited states is a democrat.i would hope we not only cananswer the question of how manypeople we live in.let's begin to act and actquickly, forcefully, and actsmartly, which we are not doingright now.>> dana: this morning, greg, onnewsroom, fred townsend, shereminded everyone that hezbollahhas a pretty big foothold insouth america especiallyvenezuela and we have 600,000known gotaways this year aloneand 169 have been caught on theterror watch list.so the chances of a hezbollahagent in the united states oftrading is probably pretty high.>> greg: yes, but if you saythat, then you run into theskittles argument.there be one schedule.we are learning you can't haveeverything.you can't have open borders anda bottomless safety net.ultimately, we become a thirdworld country and is not becauseof people coming here from thethird world.it is because all the money thatis needed to take care of all ofus will be spread so thin thatit won't exist anymore. we will not have the basicservices because we will be ableto handle everybody.this work of the american dreamand plus.in us to be that you came here.you work hard, he raised afamily.and you've made your fortunewhatever that is.it could be opening up adrugstore or whatever.now it has come here and we giveyou a fortune whether it is freehotel, free food, freehealthcare, the expense ofpeople who have worked here fordecades and work hard fordecades.so not only are we stealing frompast achievers, we are alsoproviding new achievers fromlearning about this type ofamerica.you know, the idea of work andreward.america is no longer the land ofopportunity.it is the land of free stuff.paid for by the people whocannot now afford eggs and gas.that can't last.meanwhile, the hard left iscreating a population that itloves.a dependent population,population dependent on thegovernment teat.>> jesse: government teat.>> greg: he like that?you can't say "tit.">> jesse: you just did.come to the producers havealready checked out.>> dana: let's see what you haveto say about immigration.>> jesse: you don't happen to beblack.your parents are black and theymade love and had a beautifulbaby.be proud of yourself.>> harold: i am proud of myself.>> jesse: you can be proud.[laughter]so do you remember up before therun-up to the ukraine worldrecord u.s. intelligence said,hey, russia, we see you guysamassing hundreds of thousandsof men on the border of ukraine.we have, medications intercepts.we have satellite imagery.we see when you are doing. you are saying we don't see thewhole western hemisphere comingup through caravans throughcentral america into mexicoright into texas?they not, of course we see it.we see exactly what they aredoing and we don't do anythingabout it.we had a former cia guy saying,cia makes money on the side withdrug trafficking.it is like a side hustle becausethe -- their funding is not bigenough so they do some, youknow, black ops in order toboost their budget and hide itfrom congressional oversight.and then use it for 30 stuff.so that is what they are doingwith the drug trafficking andone of the reasons, one of manyreasons donald trump wasdefeated was because the cia hadhad it with this guy because hewas threatening the cash flow.that and the china tariffs.among many other things.so what you threaten the donormoney and you threaten thedemocrat voters and you threatenthat cia cash flow, it is aproblem.joe biden is such an agreeableempty suit, he is letting it allhappen