about what he was doing. their impression always that he was conducting private business over there. obviously, suzanne, this is a very, very difficult and sensitive situation right now. the family saying that they're, of course, very concerned about bob levinson's safety. he is their loved one. they're deeply concerned about him and have been for many, many years now. but the fact of the matter is they say that they consider that he worked very hard for the united states. they said that he is dedicated himself including risking his own life to work for the united states for a number of years. remember, for years, he worked for the dea and for the fbi. and so they said that it is -- there's some people in the u.s. government who have done their very best 0 try to find him, but there are those who have not. so they're looking forward to treeing to get him home, someone they've been trying to get home for at least seven years now. i want to remind you and put it into context now.