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0 "the situation room" on twitter. tweet me or the show. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, bradley manning found guiltile of charges for releasing classified information. but he got off on even greater charges. so, win or a loss? what does it mean for america's security? then, a brazen escape caught on tape. this one, you have to see to believe. so, you will. and sleeping on the job. stealing the contents of our luggage. this is what's happening at the tsa. a special report. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. tonight, a verdict for spy bradley manning. a military judge ruled the man accused of the largest leak of classified information in american history is not guilty of aiding the enemy, but manning was found guilty of 19 of the other 20 charges against him. so, who won? chris lawrence was there today inside the military courtroom when the verdict was read. chris? >> reporter: well, erin, yeah, i was about ten feet away when the verdict came down. supporters of bradley manning gasped. but he himself did not show very much emotion at that point, though his lawyer did have a slight smile as he heard those words, not guilty. but the most serious charge came down to wikileaks and if bradley manning giving this information to julian assange was the same as giving it to an enemy that could use it to attack the united states. private first class bradley manning snapped to attention in full dress blues. likely one of his last acts as an american soldier. he stared straight ahead as the judge found him not guilty of aiding the enemy. but smiled slightly as the hearing adjourned. manning was convicted on six counts of espionage, as well as stealing video of u.s. military air strikes, classified state department cables and detainee records from guantanamo bay, which could put him in prison for 136 years. prosecutors could have accepted manning's guilty pleas to lesser charges in february, crimes which carried up to 20 years in prison. but the government pushed ahead on the more serious aiding the enemy charge, and critics say it never proved there was any real damage done to national security, beyond the embarrassment of state department officials when their cables went public. >> i don't think there's been any evidence put forward that either bradley mannings leaks or more recently edward snowden's leaks have put people at risk, have harmed people, have led to death. >> reporter: the aclu's ben wiesner says a conviction on aiding the enemy would have meant anyone that shares information with the enemy could be labeled a traitor, if the information is publish and a potential enemy could read it. >> the government equates leaks with the press to treason in a way that could chill investigative joernlism. >> reporter: manning's acquittal means no appeal and, thus, no further examination of what the government considering intent to aid the enemy. >> had there been a conviction on that, we learned a lot more about what article 104 of the uniform code of military justice requires. we're not going to know that. it's going to continue to linger as an area of potential uncertainty. >> reporter: we are just hours away from a sentencing hearing, on wednesday morning, where defense and prosecutors will argue of over what is an appropriate sentence. the judge could decide to let the charges run concurrently or string them out, and come up with a number of years that manning will serve. erin? >> that number of years so important. thank you very much, chris. republican congressman peter king, a member of the house homeland security committee and the house intelligence committee. good to see you, sir, as always. >> thank you. >> are you happy, dispointed? what word would you use? >> i'm gratified that he was convicted on five counts of espionage, plus the other theft counts. this is a serious, serious crime. and five counts, that should have a very, very significant prison sentence and hopefully it will be deterrent to other people such as bradley manning or edward snowden, that type of individual that blooechls they can disclose national secrets. >> so, the essentisentencinsent this court-martial is going to start tomorrow. he could get up to 136 years. what is the appropriate sentence? should this guy be in jail for the rest of his life or not? >> i believe he should. i believe the information he gave out was so damaging and it's hurt american interest throughout the world. i believe it cost american lives and people in your government, deciding on their own to disclose top secret classified information, which can only help our enemy. you can't play government role yourself. you have an obligation, once you take the oath, what secret, you keep secret. you can't take it upon yourself to disclose secrets and put american lives at risk. >> so, a life sentence is fair? >> i think a life sentence is more than fair for him, yes. >> julian assange has just responded to the verdict and i wanted to play you something very specific he said. >> sure. >> throughout these proceedings, there has been an absence. the absence of any victim. the only victim was the u.s. government's wounded pride. >> what do you say to julian assan assange? >> i totally and entirely disagree with that. without going into details, this was leaked at a time of the surge in after began stan. when it became known that the u.s. cannot protect those who are cooperating with us, that, from my understanding, caused us to lose people who would have worked with us in afghanistan, who were willing to stand with the united states, but were afraid that their names would be made public in the future, that's why they backed away. and that right there cost american lives. i can't go into other details other than to say that clearly, this prevented us from recruiting agents who would have worked for the u.s. who had been willing to work for the u.s. under the guarantee that their names and identity would never be made public. after they saw what happened here, it scared people away. >> the death penalty is off the table and you said life in prison makes sense. eric holder, the attorney general, has already taken it off the table for the nsa leaker edward snowden. he told the russians he would do so in the hopes they would give snoelden back to -- put snowden back in american custody. should the death penalty be off the table in all these cases? and i guess already it is in the manning case, so, what about in the snowden one? >> no, i don't think it should be, but again, if it's part of negotiations between the u.s. and russia, you know, i'm not going to second guess the attorney general on that. >> is it possible, though, that the u.s. government, you know, and i say this as both the democratic administration and the republicans overreact a little bit here. snowden, i just recently was talking to a senior law enforcement official, said snowden has killed people by what he has released. but the president refers to him as a kid. the president said, quote, i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker as if snowden is no big deal. so, which is it? how do we know if these guys did any damage or is there a grain of truth of what julian assange said, that the u.s. government just had it pride wounded? >> this is not pride. we're talking about life and death. and i am critical of the president when he really sends a mixed message at times, for instance, he says that al qaeda is decimated, but at the same time, he's expanding nsa coverage, which i think is necessary, because al qaeda is not decimated. when he says that snowden is just a 29-year-old kid, at the same time, the justice department is going after him on espionage charges. it's a very mixed signal. i think the president has to be much more consistent and really throughout his administration, it's been -- he says one thing, says another, and it's very mixed message, which is misunderstood by our allies and our enemies. >> thanks to peter king, appreciate it. next, the man accused of holding three women captive for a decade faces his fate this week. so, is he going to speak? 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