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CSPAN3 Washington Journal July 7, 2024



her tuesday from state election officials in arizona and georgia. two states key to president joe biden's electoral victory about how then-president on trump and his allies leaned on them to help overturn his loss in the 2020 election. georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger whom trump asked to quote find votes in a leaked phone call testified that trump received fewer votes than expected because roughly 20,000 republicans who voted didn't choose a president that year. supporting gop candidates for other offices instead. raffensperger's chief operating officer gabriel sterling told the panel he had become irate when election official, election workers were threatened after trump made false claims about the results. one of them, he said, was threatened to be quote hung for treason after transferring an election report to a county computer. republican arizona house speaker rusty bowers described how painful it was to have friends turn on him quote with such rancor. after he refused to overturn biden's win and how a pistol toting man threatened his neighbor during a protest outside bauer's home. and former georgia election worker wanderer are shea shea moss testified about the racist threats and death wishes she received at recommit the focus of a trump conspiracy theory. they write that congressman adam schiff, former federal prosecutor led the questioning. he called trump's lies about the election results a dangerous cancer on the body politic. again, we'll hear more the testimony this hour from some of the people who testified yesterday. first, though, the comments of adam schiff as the hearing got underway. >> the presidents lie was and is a dangerous cancer on the body politic. if you can convince americans that they cannot trust their own elections, that anytime they lose it is somehow a legitimate, then what is left but violence to determine who should govern? this brings us to the focus of today's hearing. when a state election officials refused to stop the count, donald trump's campaign tried to put pressure on them. when state is active officials refused to certify the winner of states he lost, he applied more pressure. when state legislators refused to go back into session and appoint trump electors, he amped of the pressure it again. anyone who got in the way of donald trump's continued to hold on power after he lost the election was the subject of a dangerous in escalating campaign of pressure. this pressure campaign brought angry phone calls and texts, armed protests, intimidation and all too often threats of violence and death. state legislators or singled out. so two were statewide elections officials. even local elections workers diligently doing their jobs were accused of being criminals and had their lives turned upside down. as we will show, the president's supporters heard the former president's claims of fraud and the false allegations he made against state and local officials as a call to action. >> stop the steal! stop the steal! your threat to democracy! you are a threat to free and honest elections! we love america! [inaudible] ! >>, my home and that's when my stomach sunk and i thought. it's me and then it's just we don't know. the uncertainty of that was what was the fear. are they coming with guns, are they going to attack my house? i'm in here with my kid. i'm trying to put him to bed. and so it was, that was the scariest moment, just not knowing what was going to happen. >> and here on washington journal this morning, asking you about the testimony yesterday and the pressure put on the state officials about the electoral count. 202748 8001 was the republicans. to a 27 -- and independents and others, -- on twitter, a couple of comments here. this one from park storm who tweets the gangster president has been caught committing all sorts of crimes and is loyal followers stick their heads in the sand. marilyn garland was prosecute him. bc says threats are just one tool in trump's filthy tool bag. his minions will imitate him because they don't know any better. the bulldogs says there will be no criminal charges filed against trump. the january six hearings are simply an anti trump 2024 campaign, paid for by the taxpayers. and capsizing the hearing yesterday, what happened, this is the wall street journal headline. this morning state officials tell of intense pressure after a vote to alter vote results. let's go to calls in here for some standing on the democrats line. in maryland. >> hi there. wanted to say your altering a great job. number one, the cancer pervades the congress and i hate to say it, the republican congress. they are so afraid of this man, they have absolutely no backbone. no leadership whatsoever and the leaders, quote unquote, they have lie wind confronted with the lies, they still lie. it's unbelievable. so until there we did out and i mean really weed it out, it's going to get worse and worse. he has ruined america and those republicans helped them tremendously. and all they are our vindictive and they're all voting for these, all the ones who denied the election. it's unbelievable. unbelievable. just unbelievable. it's shameful and we look like a third, we look like a fifth world country. >> midfield, massachusetts. bill is on the republican line. >> yeah, hi, how you doing? >> fine, thanks. >> i got three comments. number one, win is the investigation going to take place on what the democrats did on january 6th? they never, there is nobody been arrested for the fight that was inside the capital. there is never been an investigation of why the police and the national guard weren't there. and there is never been an investigation of the people that there was a lady lying on the ground who was unconscious and got beaten to death by the capitol police. she was already unconscious. number two, women's c-span going to have a show on the what's the name of that, 2000 miles. winds that going to be? the other side, the other half of the country where some guy went like 40 sometimes to the same dropbox. why would someone go 40 sometimes to the same dropbox? that's fraudit, that's why. number three, this is now c-span i'm all republicans out there, don't listen to c-span anymore. there -- >> two gates, north carolina, on the even find a line. gary, go ahead. larry, north carolina, you're on the air. >> good morning, sir. thank you sir. >> doing fine, larry. iran. go ahead. >> i feel that the -- orange field -- really not looking for -- [inaudible] someone that has perpetrated a bigger lie -- ever since mr. trump then became president trump before he was even inaugurated you had somebody yelling -- impeach -- so this man has done -- a great job under gillette, the entire time he was the president. constant backlash by democrats because they're lady in charge, hillary clinton, did not win. and that was the unfortunate part. because when a president wins, everyone should say -- next four or eight years, hopefully they will be the best for our country. unfortunately, that's not what happened. so therefore you have the scenario that we have today. and i thank you for your time. >> next is -- new haven, connecticut. democrats line. >> yes, my name is taught us barnes. -- i just want to say that the democrats in liz cheney and the other person in the republican party, they are doing a good job. they're telling the truth and what's happening is this is not about either party, this is about our democracy. that's what this is about. and trump did everything to stay in office. and it's wrong and i really commend all of them both they did not want to break the law. they could've been prosecuted and trump and -- all those people were trying to keep trump in office. they didn't care what they said or did, they should all be prosecuted for it. and just one last thing is that the people -- are russia and trump first election. there is a video online where putin said that he directed people to help trump in that first election. and -- insult to our -- intelligence to listen to the lies that -- so that is my comment. thank you so much. this is the wall street journal state officials -- intense pressure to alter vote result. they write this morning, republican officials in states president -- states biden nearly won. donald trump pressured them. tried to alter the results of the election in testimony tuesday before the house committee investigating the january six, 2021, capital riot and the events leading up to it. the hearing, the fourth in a series this month, examined mr. trump's attempts to contest the election results in georgia, arizona and other states in the weeks following the november 3rd, 2020 vote. the hearing also explored efforts by republicans in disputed states to submit false slates of electors to congress ahead of january 6th, when lawmakers convened at the capitol to count electoral college votes. the select committee is aiming to show that mr. trump was aware that his claims of election fraud were unfounded and risked causing violence, and could arise to criminal wrongdoing. they write also that mr. trump had denied any wrongdoing connected to the capital riot. while continuing to falsely claim that the election was stolen. he has been impeached by the house for inciting insurrection and acquitted by the senate. mr. trump and his allies lost dozens of court cases around the country challenging the 2020 election, no court or election authority found evidence of widespread fraud that could have affected the presidential outcome. one of those officials was the secretary of state of georgia, brad raffensperger who testified yesterday asked by adam schiff about the phone calls with then-president, donald trump >> the president didn't stop insinuating that law enforcement officers were either dishonest or incompetent. he went on to suggest that you could be subject to criminal liability for your role in the matter. before i play that portion of the conversation, i would like to show you something that the president retweeted a couple of weeks before your call with him. here is the president, retweeting a post from one of his allies. a lawyer who was later sanctioned by a judge in michigan for making false claims of election fraud. let's take a look at that tweet. the tweet read, quote, president trump at real donald trump is a generally good man. he does not really like to fire people. i bet he dislikes putting people in jail, especially republicans. he gave at brian kemp and at georgia secretary of state every chance to get it right. they refused. they will soon be going to jail. on your call, this was not the first time the president suggested that you might be criminally liable. let's listen to this portion of the call. >> i think you're going to find that they are shredding ballots, because they have to get rid of the ballots. the ballots are unsigned, they are corrupt and their brand-new and they don't have seals. there's a whole thing with the ballots, but the ballots are corrupt. and you're gonna find that they are, which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them. because you know what they did and you're not reporting, yet that is a criminal offense. and you can't let that i have been, that's a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyer that's a big risk. >> secretary, after making a false claim about shredding ballots, the president suggested that you may be committing a crime by not going along with his claims of election fraud after suggesting that you might have criminal exposure president trump makes his most explicit ask of the call let's play a part of that conversation. >> so, look, all i want to do is this i just want to find 11,780 votes. it is one more than we have, because we won the state >> mister secretary, was the president asking you for exactly what he wanted? one more vote than his opponent? >> what i knew is that we didn't have any votes to find we had continually looked, we investigated, i could've have shared the numbers with you, there are no votes to find. that wasn't accurate count. it had been certified as our general counsel said, there was no shortage of ballots >> some tweets from viewers, this one is from jody, saying we look like a tin can dictatorship. trump can get away with what he tried to do robert says, a good portion of the population believes that trump was robbed, and you can't change that >> tony says, i have whiplash the same people who defend mobs illegally intimidating supreme court justices now regard pressure by and legally picketing as a subject for national panic? back to your calls on the testimony esther de, and the state of the officials sun city california, next up. steve, on the republican line. >> -- the elite liberal media serves as the offense to the left, they want the democrats to win. they hated him 24/7 all of america knows it. he was up 600, 700, 800,000 votes respectively and collectively in those three states of pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. very little investigative research gone into that from the illegal media none. the real investigation ought to be about the elite level media and how biased and hateful they are towards any conservative, any republican i look at c-span, even just the way you contextualized this question this morning, it's to make a conservative defensive. and so forth. you don't have a conservative -- not one of your journalist is conservative not one you guys have swung to the left to, trying to masquerade as unbiased and so forth when you look at the substance of it, you don't have any >> let's hear from james on the independent line in murphy's borough, tennessee. >> yes. the republican with his head in the sand, trump's -- stalling and putin all in one. these people think we're going backwards, we they think we want our sleeves back. the country needs to be restored. >> stephen is next in baltimore on the democrats land. good morning >> good morning, i watch the hearings and i got so angry on how they treated the election workers. now, i really don't know what's wrong, the hate filled trump supporters, you wonder why black people don't vote republican. that's why. you still back this monster like trump. -- you guys right because you lost an election? really? yes, steven, steven from california? yes they did do studies, you just can't accept the fact that for a publican party has lost. and i would like to think -- it's been bothering me for so long, how did a modern european nation like germany go down a rabbit hole of destruction following hitler? but now, i know. because what trump did, he pointed his finger at minorities and mexicans, and whoever -- they are the answer to your problems. if we get rid of them, just like we had our conviction from cpac -- no jews, no blacks and no gays -- black people who backed trump, you know, just jesus had judas and we have you thank you. >> the color mentioned the testimony of shea moss, a fulton county election official. here's the headline from politico, one of several about her testimony, former georgia election worker testifies how false trump accusations changed her life. here is some of that testimony yesterday by shea moss. >> miss moss, how has this experience being targeted by the former president and his allies affected your life? >> it turned my life upside down. i no longer give out my business card, i don't transfer calls. i don't want anyone knowing my name, i don't go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out on the grocery aisle or something. i don't go to the grocery store at all. i hadn't been anywhere that'll. i've gained about 60 pounds, i just don't do nothing anymore. i don't want to go anywhere. i second guess everything that i do. it's affected my life in a major way. and every way. all because of lies. all i did was my job, the same thing i've been doing forever. >> your mother also told the committee about how she had to leave her own home for her safety and go into hiding. this is after the fbi told her that it would not be safe for her they are after january 6th, and until the inauguration. let's listen to a clip of her story in her own words >> around the week, january 6th, the fbi informed me that i need to leave my home for safety. and i left my home for safety around the time. >> understood, how long did he stay? how long to de-remain outside of your home for your own safety? >> i stayed away for approximately two months. it was horrible. . i felt homeless, i felt -- this person caused this much damage to me and my family, to leave my home, i've lived there for 21 years you know, i'm having to have my neighbors watch out for me. and you know, i have to go stay with somebody it was hard it was horrible >> testimony yesterday from seamus and her mother, in the deposition hearing. part of the coverage that for new york officials are still unnerved by lies unleashed. miss moss, became targets of trump supporters after mr. giuliani falsely accused them at a georgia state senate hearing of passing around usb drives like quote, vials of heroin or cocaine to steal his election from trump. what her mother actually handed her, miss moss testify on tuesday, was a ginger mint candy. >> let's hear from don and weber side, california on the republican line about yesterday's testimony. don, go ahead. >> yeah, in california we have had to listen to adam shift on every news channel. he has always been the same way, saying that he has positive proof that donald trump is -- the election, or he's colluding with the russians. donald trump this, donald trump that, he's the biggest liar out there on that committee. if you look at him right now, he looks really tired. new york city's next up, sophia on the independent line. hello. >> good morning, bill. >> good morning. >> thank you for taking my call. bill, in 2016 roger stone, the word he used, stop the steal. he had almost 1 million people, $10,000 -- they sent us. to me, that's when it started. mr. trump [inaudible] in 2016. when he did he was shot. i will try to make it short, no matter what happens for you guys, c-span, i've been watching it for 35 years. my darling, steve, they pushed him and pushed him to be strong. [inaudible] just like mike -- did. he served our democracy. go ahead. >> you were the host. four years ago or i believe it's three years ago. the governor of maryland was the host. i say the first time when i called, 50 years ago, now it's 55. 50 years ago, russian people, the russian government -- american good heart. but stupid. and i say -- >> sophia, we're going to move on to otis into troy it. we're focusing on the testimony of several state officials yesterday. before the january six committee. otis, good morning, go ahead. >> good morning, how are you doing? otis matthews from african town in southwest detroit, michigan. one thing i will say about how the non political staff members are treated, how their family was treated, just listening to the testimony of the -- young african american female. but the republican elected officials, i didn't realize how much they had to go through listening to their testimony. they used to say that if you don't stand up when someone's being attacked, once they've killed all of them, gonna take that back. once they destroyed all of them, even though you were there are part of destroying them, your next. because these sound like some staunch conservative republicans. and yet, the way they were treated and the one gentleman said who he thought he had these great plans -- maintain their own power, they attacked -- that was the sad part to me. and one other thing. the republican conservative radio like fox television, they talk about the things that marching around of supreme court justices homes. i flew through all the channel, then to talk about how the young lady, the republicans and others -- how people attacked their homes and their threats to their family and children.

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