that actual deadline. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live for us on capitol hill. what is the latest move and the latest committee, jon? >> reporter: moments ago, chris van hollen, democrat from maryland, who is a super-committee member, said as you get near the midnight hour tensions go up. there is a great deal of tension on capitol hill. late last night after a 2:00 1/2 hour bipartisan meeting that produced no results we caught up with massachusetts senator john kerry. take a listen to his tone. >> we're going to keep working. i'll talk and work till, you know, the last dog dies as they say. >> reporter: now today we know that super-committee republicans have scheduled two meetings. presumably democrats will be doing similar. there may be a little bit of back and forth from republicans to democrats and vice versa but there have been many, many meetings day and night in recent days and no breakthrough so far, jon. jon: now the axe that has been hanging over this committee if they can't come to an agreement you get all these serious cuts that are supposed to kick in. now we're hearing there is all this talk about getting out of those triggers. >> well, that's right. senator pat toomey, republican of pennsylvania, floated that idea last night saying in an interview, quote, i think we would then have a very concerted effort to reconfigure the cuts. well, chris van hollen was asked about that moments ago. he said that is trying to reengineer an agreement that had already been reached. we asked wisconsin republican ron johnson, a senator, about that. take a listen. >> one of the reasons i voted against this debt ceiling agreement i saw meaningless it really was going to be because the sequestration, the cuts weren't even going to occur until january 2013 and one congress can't bind the hands after future congress. i just didn't see it as a serious attempt. >> reporter: so the question is, these triggers that have been hanging over the super-committee, whether people think they are real or not. clearly senator johnson doesn't think so. jon? jon: there still has been a lot of arguing about the balanced budget amendment push. what's happening with that right now? >> reporter: they're talking about it on the house floor right now. conservatives, blue dog democrats have in favor after balanced budget amendment especially when you consider we have 15 trillion dollar and growing debt it. will be a tough vote. you need 2/3 support in the house. it is not expected to pass in the senate but still the house will give it a shot today. they will vote today. they hope if they can pass the house that will press the senate to do similar in the united states senate, jon. jon: mike emanuel, our chief congressional correspondent on the hill right now. thanks, mike. jenna: we'll continue to monitor all the information out of d.c. in the meantime new reports this hour more alleged victims are coming forward in the shocking sex abuse scandal in penn state. multiple victims at the hands of former coach jerry sandusky are reportedly lawyering up and so is the university by the way, anticipating years of legal battles. many are expecting those alleged victims to file civil lawsuits against penn state. some have even been calling for the end of penn state's football program but folks in charge say there is no way that will happen. a host of different reports. we're trying to sort through those for you. meanwhile after a stinging child section abuse scandal broke at penn state we have another possible scandal with new information at syracuse university. police are now investigating assistant basketball coach bernie fine. there are allegations he molested a team ball ball for more than a dozen years. eric shawn is live in syracuse, new york, with more on this. >> reporter: jenna, another coach accused. bernie fine has been an institution and legend here at syracuse university. been assistant coach, associate head coach also for 35 years and now he is accused of sexually molesting a former ball boy who was on the syracuse university basketball team. fine has been put on administrative leave. the syracuse police department reopening this investigation that, jenna, dates back about 30 years. fine's accuser is now 39-year-old bobby davis. davis says that he was sexually abused by fine back in the 1980s and 1990s at his home where he lived. on the road where he says he stayed in hotel rooms with fine as well as on campus. and now, davis's brother has also come forward with similar claims against fine. davis told espn that he came forward now because of the penn state scandal. >> for a long time i've had no self-confidence, no self-esteem. i was very weak person for a long time in my life. it took me a long time to come out and say something. you know, and i think my conscience hitting me and hitting me. i kept thinking about if he is doing to little kids, i have to say something. i can't live my whole life knowing it is going on, what is going on there if i never said anything. and he is still doing it. >> reporter: davis reportedly has come forward before. back in 2002, telling local paper here similar allegations. they decided not to publish that. in 2005 there was an investigation by the university, an investigation that lasted for four months. the university says though there was no evidence of this. the charges were unfounded and that witnesses would not back up davis's claim. the police department reportedly not pursuing it because of statute of limitations had expired but someone today who is strongly defending fine is legendary head coach of syracuse. he is jim boeheim. boehim telling espn that davis, who he knows by the way, is lying, a thousand lies he says. boehim issued following statement which he says, quote, this matter was fully investigated by the university in 2005. it was determined that the allegations were unfounded. i have known bernie fine for more than 40 years. i have never seen or witnessed anything to suggest he would be involved in any of the alleged activities. this morning the chancellor of syracuse university issued an e-mail to the campus saying that university officials should not turn a blind eye to these accusations but says there should not be an unfair rush to judgment. jenna, back to you. >> we'll keep that in mind and continue to sort through the information. thank you very much, eric shawn at syracuse today. jon: a brand new poll just out on the race for the 2012 republican nomination and the battle for iowa specifically. the new poll shows herman cain at the front of the back with ron paul rising into second place. mitt romney in third and interestingly, no real sign of newt gingrich's surge at least nationally. let's get explanations from michael barone. he is senior political analyst for the "washington examiner" and a fox news contributor. a guy that knows numbers very well. does this surprise you? newt has been surging nationally but don't see it in the iowa poll. why not, michael? >> gingrich has been spending a lot of time in iowa. he has been campaigning in unusual ways and some ways effectively using new media. reaching out to people through the internet. i think the interesting thing in that poll is not necessarily newt's performance or herman cain's. it was taken over almost a two-week period, november 1st through the 13th. but the fact that it confirms ron paul seems to have moved up in iowa from about 10% the vote in previous surveys to around 20% of the vote in multiple surveys. so this is, this is confirmation that there seems, there is something going on for ron paul out there in iowa which has put him in contention for the lead in a multicandidate race. >> but you also point out that it is pretty hard to pin down who is going to actually be voting in the iowa caucuses? >> that's right. iowa polling is particularly dicey because you're trying to isolate about 100,000 people who typically participate in these iowa precinct caucuses in a state of three million people. it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. you can ask voters whether they previously participated in the caucuses? how strongly they intend to do so but the fact is memory is often faulty on questions like that. people tend to over, are more likely to say they attended than they didn't and stated intentions are steams falling through. you know, turns out they want to go to wal-mart that night rather than the caucus. so it is unclear who exactly is going to vote. so i think there is a large element of uncertainty here. i wouldn't focus too much on particular percentages but more than the magnitude of support that seems to show up not just in one but in multiple polls because you need some confirmation on this. jon: quickly on herman cain, still number one there at least in this poll despite the problems he has had of late. >> the poll was taken over the first two weeks of this month of the in the first week we saw herman cain riding pretty high in polls around the country, nationally and in particularly primary states. i think we can take this as reflecting that and the travails of the cain campaign over the last week or so suggest to me that if cain had that kind of support november 1 through 13, he will probably not going to stain it. jon: michael barone from the "washington examiner". thank you. >> thank you. jenna: a whole new look at a hollywood mystery. 30 years after the strange death of natalie wood, los angeles police are reopening the case. geraldo rivera is going to join us. he has a special perspective on this whole ordeal. jon: that is really interesting. two years after that sweat lodge ceremony turned deadly in arizona, the self-help guru convicted in that case is about to hear his sentence. jenna: plus our nation's debt more than $15 trillion. a super-committee is running out of time how to make the cuts that are needed. how hard is it really to trim 1.2 trillion dollars over 10 years, jon? jon: i could do it. i'm sure i could do it. jenna: i think our viewers could as well. we'll look at some ideas how to achieve that next. 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it is popular drug used in several different types of cancer. colon cancer being one of them. several times of tumors. the thinking behind it could eventually help those with breast cancer. for patients that have run out of options there was some hope using avastin. the fda ruled that avastin should no longer be used in breast cancer patients because the fda says there is no prove it extends lives and it may have dangerous side-effects. we'll keep you posted on the news. avastin, use of it for breast cancer revoked. for other cancers can still be used. jon: this breaking news. two years after that arizona sweat lodge ceremony turned deadly, the self-help guru nvicted of negligent homicide in the case is about to learn his sentence. harris faulkner watching it from the breaking news desk. >> reporter: jon, there is something to watch live right now. james arthur ray about to hear what the judge will choose for his pun fishment. we're looking live in the courtroom from prescott, arizona. i attract dozens of people to his retreat in sedona, arizona. people were over come by heat in the ceremony where ray told them to suffer the heat where three people died. he was convicted of negligent homicide in their deaths. i'm monitoring the hearing. we're told the defense team is fighting for probation. we're hearing right now from the prosecutors who say that they want ray to get the maximum. that would be nine years in prison. we're expected within minutes also to hear from victims who survived the ordeal. the judge saying he will consider their impact statements today before sentences james arthur ray. jon, back to you. jon: harris, keep an eye on it for us. >> reporter: will do. jon: appreciate it. thanks. >> oh, those dollar bills on the screen. we'll turn to the debt crisis now. time is running out for the super-committee to come up with $1.2 trillion in cuts over the next 10 years. you see the debt we have right now, over 15 trillion. there are certainly a lot of ideas how to reach the goal of 1.2 trillion in cuts. it includes tax loopholes and reducing duplicate government programs. let's talk to chief washington correspondent jim angle how hard this is really. some viewers probably think it is pretty simple, jim. maybe you will tell us something different. what do you think? >> reporter: well, it depend how you look at it but even as the super-committee agonizes over the numbers a lot of budget analysts argue it shouldn't be that hard to cut spending. listen. >> 1.2 trillion is five cents out of every dollar that will be spent over the next 10 years. citizens against government waste is now conducting a new campaign we're calling, congress, can you spare a dime? anybody that is facing the amount of red ink that the united states is now looking at would find ways to save money. >> reporter: now one target of course is duplication of programs and there is a lot of that. senator tom coburn has long complained about that problem. and argues there are many savings to be had there. listen. >> we have 100 different programs with 100 sets of bureaucracies, for surface transportation. why do we have that? because congress has mismanaged. >> reporter: now, and senator coburn and tom schatz of citizens against government waste note the federal government has also funded 56 separate programs to teach americans financial literacy. as schatz puts it at a time when the federal government itself as he put it, is going broke. jenna: a little ironic. didn't mean to snicker there. 56. hopefully one of them works. we had the debt commission, i don't want to mix it up with the super-committee or any other group but we had the debt commission and apparently the debt commission found if you just looked at deductions that you could slice $1.1 trillion off of the debt? is that correct? that brings us to the point how important taxes are in all of this. >> reporter: yeah, well the president's fiscal commission co-chaired by senator al simpson and former clinton chief of staffers kin bowles identified 1.1 trillion a year in what are called tax expenditures or tax deductions. they proposed getting rid of all of them and putting on the table those you want to keep. and lowering taxes significantly, tax rates. if you look at the 1.1 trillion some are politically sacrosanct. home mortgage interest deduction. charitable contributions and and. budget hawks said they should find 200 billion or so democrats and republicans could agree to cut. listen. >> that's right. you could save a very small amount of all total tax expenditures and that would lead to tremendous savings over 10 years. >> reporter: so, jenna, just 200 billion in change every year, just 200 out of 1.1 trillion would yield some 2 trillion in savings over 10 years. one of the complicating factors there of course that many lawmakers want comprehensive tax reform and would use those same savings to broad the base and reduce rates. and you can't use the same savings twice but most budget analysts say there are plenty of ways to save 1.2 trillion aside from raising revenues. jenna? jenna: that is great idea. ready for a little action. we'll see if we get it. jim angle, thank you so much. >> reporter: yeah. jon: anybody who could simplify our tax system would have my support. jenna: you got that? all right. jon: yeah. there is a shadow over penn state university with a sex scandal threatening to take down more than just football coaches. we'll tell you why many are wondering what is next for knittey nation and the school as a whole. david lee miller just spoke with jerry sandusky's attorney. the latest from him coming up. guess what. the "achy breaky heart" thing is that could be a dangerous medical condition. who is the susceptible to the risks of heart break. jenna: are you looking at me? jon: no, i'm not. you're newly married. come on! we're america's natural gas and here's what we did today: supported nearly 3 million steady jobs across our country... ... scientists, technicians, engineers, machinists... ... adding nearly 400 billion dollars to our economy... we're at work providing power to almost a quarter of our homes and businesses... ... and giving us cleaner rides to work and school... and tomorrow, we could do even more. cleaner, domestic, abundant and creating jobs now. we're america's natural gas. the smarter power, today. learn more at anga.us. jon: here in the acquisition center at the fox news channel we're bringing in news from all over the world. sometimes those news feeds are sad ones like the one we're waiting for on remote 254 right there. oklahoma state university, for the second time a plane crash has taken the lives of some members of its basketball family. this time legendary women's basketball coach kurt booed key, an assistant along with two others -- bud key. dow has been up today. a rocky week. we'll keep eye on that. take a look at weather on the west coast and northern plains. it will a chilly weekend i'm told. we'll get an update from the fox weather department just ahead. jenna? jenna: well, jon, it is one of college football's most storied franchises, led recently by the winningest coach of all time. after former assistant coach jerry sandusky of penn state university was charged with sexually abusing children, everything was changed. the scandal rocked the communit ie coach joe paterno his job. there are rumors now swirling a life-sized tribute to paterno might be removed from campus. looks like a long road back not only for the university but the commune at large. also the community at large when it comes to sports. we're talking with the senior writer for "sports illustrated" magazine, david epstein. he has the cover story this week. we were lucky enough to preview it. you were just down in happy valley and one of the things you talked about, happy valley being where penn state is, we often emphasize the happy but we forget about the valley part . what do you mean by that? >> that's right. even relative to other major universities, penn state is a city unto itself. it is really isolated. you go five minutes off campus there you're basically in cornfields. this was a edge roonal, what some people called a cow college, a regional university when joe paterno first came. now it is national university but totally self-contained.