0 style weapons. also he he will sign a number of executive orders about things like sharing data and research. president anticipates opposition. >> there will be pundits and politicians and special interest lobbyists publicly warning of tyrannical all out assault on liberty not because that's true but, because they want to gin up fear or higher ratings or revenue for themselves. and behind the scenes they dual everything they can to block any common sense reform and make sure nothing changes whatsoever. >> bill: with us now senator marco rubio of florida. where is the president going wrong, congressman? >> first of all, thank you for having me on tonight on this important issue. let's remember what the imimpetus for all of this was was the connecticut strategy all of us are sad about and never want to see again. the white house would do nothing have prevented in colorado before that or any of these other places where this has occurred. the issue america faces is not guns. it's violence. the fundamental question is is what is happening in our culture and in our society that's leading to people committing these across cities whether it's mental illness or some other violent propensities that have come into our culture and our society. what the president is proposing is problematic for a couple of reasons. it doesn't work. for many of the reasons you have outlined in the talking point memo tonight. these ideas don't work. it's not chicago. washington, d.c. had a very similar gun ban. it didn't work. violent crime and murder and all these things skyrocketed in washington during the time of those bans. i'm a conceal weapons permit in florida. background check and finger fingerprinted and gun safety course. more people should get those. >> you divent object to any of that. register the gun and background check on you i think that's good. >> law in florida. also in florida we have something called 10/20/life. if crime is commit and possession of a gun it's a mandatory 10 years. if you pull out that gun it's mandatory 20 years. if you use that gun you are away for life. even the first time you commit that what's happened is that these criminals that use guns are in jail. they are not out there committing crimes. >> bill: my talking points memo based on your experience is you don't disagree with it. >> that's right. >> bill: we have some common ground here. you and me anyway. and i'm hoping that the folks as well. we want public safety to be paramount. we understand that any gun ban isn't going to work and it's proven all over the place. and we want to respect the constitution. so how can we get president obama on board with this. the only thing that he really did today that i don't think is he going to get through is the assault ban weapon. all right? now, i say leave it to the states. new york ban assault weapons all right yesterday. so you can't have them here. you know, i understand both sides of that story. but am i going to move to florida? because of the assault ban? no, i'm not. i'm going to stay in new york. >> bill: is is that the secret? [ laughter ] >> he sees this as an opportunity to get some of these things done. you talk about keeping us safe. if someone decides i need a gun to commit crimes. they are not going to go to the local gun store and buy the gun. they will buy it from the black market. >> bill: they might. there is a lot of criminals in new york drive down to virginia and stock up on guns and bring them back, which is why you could make that against federal law crossing state laws with certain types of weapons and i wouldn't object to that. the bottom line is, again, do you think the president is demagoguing the issue? does he he know what we have discussed here? gun bans don't work. states rights should be paramount. folks have a right to protect themselves. >> this is what he has done his entire political career. he sees an opportunity to do it. utilize every rhetorical device to get to that point. >> bill: does he really think that banning assault weapons will stop mass murder. >> i think he believes that. not only does he believe that he he believes in this and he thinks this is a huge bone. >> bill: not a hypocrite phony. >> i actually think the president doesn't have the guts to admit it is not a believer in the second amendment although he state that he is. that's what i'm saying. the second amendment is in the constitution. i didn't write the constitution. neither did you neither did he. if he wants to reform the second amendment then have the guts to admit that. >> bill: we're going to it hold senator rubio over because we want to talk a little immigration with hill. what about president obama's new demeanor? i see a change. we will see if the senator does. later, dennis miller on lance armstrong and that could get grizzly. we're coming right back. 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