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and to get back to your question, the threat is, if he continues this rhetoric, there is going to be harmed to potentially jurors, judges, law enforcement officers and the like. it reminds me of back when in georgia, a republican election officials said you know, trump cut out your rhetoric after 2020, someone's about to get hurt and of course, that happened so painfully for all of us to see, on january 6. >> and you and i have talked about this, andrew, to build on what neil was saying. we don't know what the impact of all of this rhetoric is. are people watching and listening to it and thinking that it is a license to do something, to do others harm? i hear it as a redux of 2020. talk to me about your concerns here and what you hear when you hear these attacks on the judge, the jurors, others who were participating in the process. >> what i would ask people to do is to actually look past the
he literally said i'm not allowed to use his name because of the gag order. i know you are watching this closely and prepared to take action and responsive he does keep coming after your client? >> we have taken action at every turn. i think a lot of people forget because michael can tend to have a dramatic persona, what he has actually been through, the trauma he has actually been through, so i was there with him when michael was thrown into solitary confinement in violation of his constitutional rights and we got him out of that. i was there with him when trump filed a half a billion dollars lawsuit against michael after he testified to the grand jury in this criminal case, and so you know, i heard your opening segment with andrew and neil. it was chilling because you know, you're talking about, rightly, violations of norms
understanding that. it just stuck out to me since he said it. let's talk about what happens next on the path forward and andrew, you have made this point, but since then, trump has made even more attacks on people participating in the process, that some of the things he has been saying are violations of the gag order, attacking people involved in the process. we will weigh on the judge during sentencing coming up july 11th. talk to me about how you anticipate the impact will be and what you thought about what he said on friday and how the judge would be hearing that. >> well, two of the things the judge will be considering is the lack of remorse, and the risk of recidivism, and for lack of remorse, i mean it's hard to think of a case that shows more lack of remorse, and this is somebody who is prideful over what happened, and he is not only showing lack of remorse for himself, but he is sort of fomenting across the nation, i just respect for law completely, so i mean this is undermining our system. also on recidivism, it is important to remember what the jury found here was that the 34
must be the views old scale. i never know if you people. no wonder the judge has some great legal minds fighting over him like he's harry styles jockstrap. >> with respect and like a man crush on him. he is such a great judge that it's hard to see that jurors would not have the same impression, you just keep thinking that if you looked in the dictionary for judicial temperament that is what you get. [ laughter ] >> greg: andrew. keep it in your pants. and buy it i mean what is left respect. there's your media objective legal expertise, what is it with them in their lust for authority figures as they call us the flashes. they soak their panties over
on the higher end of the economy folks have been able to deal with inflation and it is easy for them to say everything is okay. when you do talk about some of the pricing at the supermarkets and gas and homes, that is where people's experience on the lower end of it are challenged. >> andrew, i see behind you, the dow jones dropping again. it goes down, it goes up . it is already down 300, what is going on? >> literally there is now a sense that there could be a rate hike. we keep talking about inflation and what is happening with interest rates. we have been talking about interest rates becoming under control, i think now, even in the last day, no cash carry was on the board of the fed said rate hikes are on the table.
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he's saying it's not a crime. tell it to michael cohen who went to jail for him and had the supporters applauding that. it's the same underlying thing. if the system were rigged, would be looking at four final convictions of trump in four different jurisdictions today, not the patchwork of partially litigating cases we have. and to get back to your question, the threat is if he continues this, there will be harm to jurors and judges, law enforcement officers. it reminds me of when in georgia and election officials said trump cut out the rhetoric. someone will get hurt, and that happened for all of us to see on january 6. >> andrew, we've talked about this.
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i think andrew jumped in. you are the one who has been so careful to not read tea leaves. you have set the quickness of which they came back at 4:30 p.m. led you to believe this was going in a certain direction. you informed me in real time as well. >> it just seem clear to me, especially that they said they needed 30 minutes to fill out the form they had to have had some guilty verdicts. i knew from being a prosecutor all you need is one. that note was a very good note. the surprise was it turns out with the charges, why it took 30 minutes, i thought it seemed unlikely to be all acquittals are all convictions. it turned out that 30 minutes is probably for some other reason. if i had to guess i would say security concerns. this is an unusual case. secret service would need to be
president biden today broke his silence on donald trump's unanimous guilty verdict with a not subtle response to trump's attacks on the judicial system. resident biden's comments follow an apparently deliberate strategy to address trump's trial, while maintaining an edict that biden himself put in place a year ago, that the entity is that the white house controls were not to publicly discuss any of the criminal investigations into trump, keeping a clear line between the west wing and the department of justice. it is unclear what the strategy will be when biden is not at the white house and is instead on the campaign trail. joining me now is mitchell andrew, biting campaign national co-chair and former lieutenant governor of louisiana. governor andrew, thank you for being here. i am eager to know, from what you can tell us, what the strategy might be once president biden is not at the white house, and whether he is going to speak more vociferously, perhaps, about the phelan front runner in the