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class= nosel > div class= colspacer > div class= gutr > artwork and his name. he seemed content. during one of his mental health evaluations, he told doctors, this is the happiest i ve been in my life. i m happy as a clam, to be honest. i really am. be honest. i really am. jr. who four decades after shooting an american president appeared at peace with his past. that s all for this edition of dateline. # thank you for watching. . good morning. and welcome to the saturday edition of morning joe weekend. it was a busy week, so let s get to the conversations you might have missed. you can t gag a nominee. can you imagine you are running for office and not allowed to talk. when that ndhappens, we are no longer s democracy. and we are not ppgoing to let that happen. and i know a lot of republicans want retribution and want to do that we are rigoing to see what happens. donald trump is ratcheting up threats to prosecute his rivals if reelected following his conviction on 34 felony counts in his criminal hush money trial. and in a new piece for the new york times, it s taking a closer eslook at what that coul mean. explaining it like this, the justice department is part of the executive branch. and he will be its boss. he will be able to tell its officials to investigate and prosecute his rivals and mr. trump who has made no secret of his desire to purge the federal bureaucracy of those found insufficiently loyal to achis agenda will be able to fire those who refuse. what s more, the times also highlights how republican leaders in and out of government, are publicly pushing to prosecute democrats as legal retribution for trump s felony conviction. specifically, steve bannon, the former chief s strategist evto trump who fowas convicted in a federal prosecution for failing to comply with a congressional subpoena. and in the january 6th investigation. he told the times in a text message that now is the time for obscure republican prosecutors around the country to make a name for themselves by prosecuting democrats. stating, there are dozens of ambitious back bencher state attorneys general and district attorneys who need to seize the day and own this moment in history. the cohost of the weekend simone sanders townsent and an host of the podcast on brand with donny deutch and state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave. dave, can you expound upon how this time around if trump did win another term in the presidency, that actually those threats wouldn t be something that republicans or people who choose to vote for him despite thinking that s wrong, perhaps going oh, you know, he is not serious, how actually this time around it can be serious. it s dangerous if donald trump gets a lackey as attorney general they have immense powers as federal prosecutor a and less ability to influence local prosecutors. one of the best things about being a local district attorney is that the governor, the attorney general and the president isthey are not your bosses. the people of our communities are our bosses, and that s why when maga blames joe biden for pulling the strings in the new york case. they are lying or have fundamental misunderstanding of the chris fuma am justice syste i can assure you no might house or president e called me to go after anyone especially donald trump. and if the white house was involved at the local level ed they would be calling me e because i am the state attorney with mar-a-lago in my jurisdiction. what this shows is team trump is projecting yet again when they claim that prosecutors are weaponized against former president. they are now trying to do what they are falsely accusing political opponents. it s cynical and dangerous and shows how the rule of law means nothing to the people. let s take other side and what democrats are tdoing and should be emdoing in the wake o the verdict. have seen polls suggest slight move towards president biden. a point or two. new york potimes had a survey they went back and recanvassed voters they spoke to and now the verdict modest but 2 points towards biden in race that s clothes but what should democrats being doing in terms of addressing the rules of law but how should they be taking on the verdict? is it something that should be front and center inor a piece o the puzzle. i said last week. it s a branding issue. whenever they refer to them they should start with convicted felon like he used to call lying ted. that s his name convicted felon donald trump. keep it present because as you talked about earlier, the a parade moves on. and this is something the parade shouldn t move on. the other thing i couldn t help watching this tmorning from normandy and biden speech, as biden referred to tyranny around the world and a w dictatorship and lack of freedom around the world, i was not confused. i was thinking was he talking about trump or putin which was the bigger threat he was talking about. and everybody should just watch and look at faces of those hundred-year-old men, the greatest generation who gave their lives not they gave their lives but partners gave their lives and they put their lives on the line. what they did that for so we, today, could have a free vote. it s as simple as that. they gave it for freedom. what s on the line in the ballot, and i am not overlie dramatic is free elections going forward. donald trump tellsous what he is going to do and will we have free elects if donald trump is elected and that s on the line and that s also with democrats we have to continue to do is no more complicated than that. it s freedom versus the end of democracy. that s it. that s not hyperbole. and simone, in order to dedo that and in order to defeat donald trump, think we have to pick up a certain percentage of trump voters. so. well. my question go ahead. well, tii would say, not tru voters because trump voters are voting for trump. there are very few people who brand themselves as trump voters who would consider casting a ballot for joe biden. and so i actually think in y order to win, joe biden has to recreate parts of his coalition from 2020, and that coalition included republicans and obviously an until of voters and democrat being base voters. and i have to tell you all i talked to our colleague michael steele one of oumy cohost on th weekend about this often. and michael hesteele is you hav to create a structure because republicans and they cannot fathom e voting for joe biden. he think what the issue is democratic voters, because the tent is so big, especially black and latino voters, young people, right, women voting democrat for a long time, they have not had a problem going into a voting booth checking the box or pushing a button for a person that doesn t align with them on everything because they are clear about why they are voting and the person will give me everything and is not with me on all the things. but i got to go into the ballot box for x, y and z. lee pub cans voters have not had to do that for a lopping time. to ask republican voters never had to hold the nose and cast a ballot for someone they don t think alines with them 100%. and in this election, when we talk about democracy, and i heard hearing joe biden this morning every day i am proud to be an american. but today maybe especially proud because especially the joe biden is our president. because when he stood out there and he said that it is the blood of the young and the brave that will defend and he laid made the case very clear, that s not a speech donald trump could have given. it s not something donald trump believes. but it is going to take a coalition of people, again, as times wrote in america, presidents have to earn the mandate and idearn it from the voters. and the question on the table is can joe biden earn the mandate. and think he can but they have to recreate the coalition. simone, what he said was the price of unchecked tyranny is the blood of our young. and will we stand up to that tyranny. the answer is yes. and i felt the same thing you did. i did feel the very same way. george s 2020 election interference case will not go to trial before presidential election this november. yesterday, a georgia court of appeals officially stayed the case until at least october. that ntmonth the court will hea a challenge of judge scott decision s to allow district attorney fani willis to remain. it applies to former president trump and multiple codefendants including rudy giuliani and former white house chief of staff mark meadows. it seems in two of the really key cases, jonathan, the delays keep coming. yeah, the trump playbook for more than a year now is all the charges and various jurisdictions was to delay, delay, delay to try to push them past the election. that didn t work in new york. and atwe know that and got a verdict last week. but seems to be working about everywhere else. georgia case definitively not happening until after the election. mar-a-lago classified documents case, judge cannon seems to be running interference at times for the trump campaign and that s been delayed. so dave, that leaves one. and that s the federal january 6th case. he which right now, big peas of it lie before the supreme court waiting a-a ruling whether or not presidents have full immunity. it s been described to me as a couple options here. one option is they say no of course not and if that s the case there is still a slim chance that jack smith could get the trial done in maybe august and therefore, we would have that before the election. but, if they do anything else including kick it back to the circuit court it will be beyond ma. give us your analysis what you think could, but will happen. the only case that could go before the election is that d.c. election interference case. judge cannon slow walking the case and cathe case in fulton county and fani willis had self- inflicted wounds and d.c. a judge who wants it to go and prosecution who wants it to go, but the supreme court is holding it up. now, there are a lot of options. the people are court could ou throw it back to the judge and say fact-finding. p that would make much harder . to have the trial before the election. but she would have a public fact-finding hearing which then the public would learn about all the dirty details around donald trump s involvement with january 6th. that s something. but in the end, think the problem is that the people need to know whether donald trump is guilty of the crimes and everyone was agasped about on january 6th. and department of justes which normally doesn t push cases shortly before the election has announced they will go to trial in this case wwithin 06 days o the election if the supreme court gives it the green light. we have lots more to get to this hour. morning joe weekend continues after a short break. joe weeken after a short break. ke a migrai. with nurtec odt, i found relief. nothing dims on a migraine with nurtek odt i found relief. it 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a margins that mat are because this is going to be a close election. don t miss the weekend saturday and sunday morning at 8:00. on msnbc. get the latest updates on presidential rates with how to win 2024. listen, read and watch to get insightful analysis by political insiders who know what it takes to win the critical election. listen read and watch how to win 2024. the president talked about ukraine as one of the current challenges that exemplified the fight against dark forces that never fade. and he made another yet another commitment he reenforced the commitment to ukraine, and by the way, if i may, we are watching live pictures right now of president biden and the first lady walking through the cemetery in normandy, france. and as we look at these pictures, which really symbolize the losses 80 years ago on d-day, and talk about the losses that ukraine is incurring right now from the same type of aggression. the president did say that the support for ukraine would continue, that we will be this for ukraine. how does that how does that parallel with some of the what we have seen in washington that delayed the much needed aid ukraine needed to push back against russian aggression? well, you know, that aide should have gotten there a long time ago but i am glad it is there i and making a difference. every i day we are pushing it to the front lines making sure ukrainians have it and can use it. but there s a powerful parallel between what we are commemorating today and what we are doing. back then it was not just the united states. here in normandy, 12 countries came together. 160,000 men coming to the beach, coming to start the final fight that ultimately 11 months later led to victory in world war ii. ukraine, more than 50 countries standing up, standing together, and making sure that ukraine has what it needs to defend itself and push back aggression. and that s the power of our alliances and that s the biggest difference maker in the world. our adversaries and competitors, they don t have the same alliances they coerced countries and pay them off, here, we have country after country that volunteers to stand together stand together in defense of principles that we share and need tee fending. we see that in ukraine and saw it 80 years ago here in normandy. mr. secretary, good morning. of course, the war in ukraine is the backdrop to where you are today in normandy. i wanted to get your reaction. donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee said a few times including last night on social media that he is saying that putin will release wall street journal report evan gershkovich who is being held prisoner on espionage and suggested putin will do so after the election were trump to win. can you give us a sense what he is talking about. is there a back channel conversation between trump and putin offer is this sort of dangerous rhetoric? i don t know what he is talking about. i can t speculate on it. all i can tell you is, we are working every day to make sure americans who are being detained arbitrarily whether in russia or anywhere else, come home. and we managed to bring more americans home who are being arbitrarily detained than any administration. and i carry a list with me every day of the americans who remain detained by one power or another, and we are working every day to make sure that not another day goes by before they are brought home to their families. i am not sure what he is referencing, but i can tell you we are working at it every day. mr. secretary, as you sat there this morning on sacred ground, you witnessed a group of veterans aged 98 to 103, struggling to stand in order to receive the legion of merit from the president of the united states and the president of france. given the burden that the president is carrying and you are carrying, in gaza, in the kyiv i was wondering as you watch the ceremonies and looked at the faces of these aged veterans, what were you thinking about? mike, it s it was such an incredibly powerful moment to look at men to try to imagine what it was like for them. 80 years ago. and he thought back because my dad, then, 80 years ago, had just left college in the middle of his school year, to signp for the air force to prepare to go into world war ii. and some where else on this continent, my stepfather was incarcerated in concentration camp. a death camp. and the men who came here to normandy 80 years ago, and turned the tide on the war because 11 months later world war ii was over, some of them went onto liberate the camps. and liberate my step dad and he was liberated by an american tank with that 5 pointed white star on it rushing up to a gi in the tank who opened the hatch and african american gi and he said then the only words he knew in the english language, god bless america. that s what i was thinking about today. god bless america. god bless the men who were before us who saved the world. mr. secretary, the president talked about nato how it is growing, how much stronger it will become against these dark forces. we have had a time in the united states where the commander in chief at the time, did not respect nato, i will say it kindly undermined it. can you share what s most important about the conviction and commitment of this international alliance. mika, it s really as i said, our comparative advantage we bring other countries together in common purpose so it s not just america alone. it s all of us taking on and upholding the cause of freedom. in ukraine more than 50 countries. not just the united states. and for everything we are putting into it, collectively our partners, our allies, are putting in more. and that s what s making the difference. so, to deny ourselves those alie ands alliances would be to short change our interest to do everything ourselves on it wouldn t get done. we used to have an idea after world war ii, called enlightened self-interest where the investments in others the work we did with others that came back ten times, 100 times, 1,000 times to our benefit. it meant we had new allies to deter aggression and new partners to deal with big problems that one country can t deal with alone. we had new markets for our businesses and our workers to sell to. that made sense for america. it makes sense for america. and president biden is determined and as he has been from day one, to make sure that our alliances are strong, partnerships are real, because that s good for the country. coming up, a new wide ranging interview with president biden revealing what he hopes to do if he is elected to a second term. we will talk with time magazine reporter who spoke to the president exclusively. don t go anywhere. nice to meet you. my name is david. i been a pharmacist for 44 years. when i have customers come in, and ask for something for memory, i recommend prevagen because it is effective and doesn t require a prescription and i have taken it and i love it when customers say david, that really 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team putting that run together. contradictions and poor predictions from donald trump. in a new wide ranging interview president biden is outlining his vision for a second term and highlighting his efforts to leave the country around the world. the president spoke exclusively to time for the publications upcoming cover story titled if he wins. joining us is time s washington bureau chief who he and time editor sam jacobs interviewed president biden for the cover story on may 28th at the white house. good morning. so what is the pitch if you put it on a bumper sticker but let you go longer. what s the pitch for a second term other than keeping donald trump out of the white house again? well, think that the point that biden and his team makes is foreign policy is very, very important. it s as important as any issue and the difference between biden and trump on foreign policy is as big a difference as has existed on foreign policy in 100 years maybe ever. biden believes in alliances. trump and his team are very skeptical don t like alliances. it matters generally for the future of the world and for americans prosperity and security which way the country chooses to go. tell us more if you will about the president s vision for a second term in terms of the foreign policy particularly on the matters of ukraine and what we are seeing in israel and gaza. so, you know, big issue in the background is china managing china s rise. what biden talks about in the interview is a kind of alliance based approach to managing that. they point to he and his team point to ukraine as an example of the way that it values based alliance can maximize amplify american power and influence. he is expanneded nato, and he brought in some asian powers into the effort in ukraine in ways people haven t done before. and in the middle east it s been a more prague mat being approach after initially isolating insaudi arabia the administration pivoted and embraced them to pull them back from china. and obviously,s s wrestled mightily with the alliance with israel and with netanyahu. all that gets to how you manage china, which is the first country in 100 years that has the potential to challenge the u.s. both militarily and economically, and you know, that really competition is going to shape, you know, the future for the u.s. over the coming century. so tell us a little more about that and also the role india might play. we have prime minister and his party today we are learning going to be reelected, but a small margin than anticipated. how does president biden attempt to say he will attempt to manage the forces? so, again, it s good example of what the biden approach is versus the trump approach. trump took a bilateral one-on- one transactional by his kit and it s aes own account achieved a lot in his own right. biden is more internationalist. so within india in addition to the straight one-on-one stuff, they focus on what s called the quad which is japan, australia, india and the u.s. and trying to build that up into a kind of a more formal sustainable force. but he s the list if you go back and look at stuff they rolled out, at the bilats between trump between biden and modi, they have a long list of things they have tried to put uneatable to bring india closer to the u.s. because you are right, that s a key strategic player in managing china. and of covers, the president expected to underline the importance of american alliance during speeches to commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day this week in france. times cover story featuring president joe biden goes on sale next friday june 14th. title if he wins. times washington bureau chief massimo, thanks so much. we appreciate it. next, nearly two years after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, a new book looks into conservatives years long strategy that led to the dobbs decision. we will talk with the authors after the break. did you know sling has your favorite programs for $40. favorite news for 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and listen to breaking news and analysis any time, anywhere. go beyond the what to understand the why. download the new msnbc app now. nearly two years after the supreme court overturned roe versus wade, a new book is shedding light on conservatives strategy that finally led to the dobbs decision. the book is titled the fall of roe, rise of a new america exploring how the most fervent anti-abortion activist persuaded the court to end nearly 50 years of precedence. the book s coauthors national religion correspondent for the new york times and national political correspondent for the new york times. good morning to you both congratulations. today s pub day. today is pub day. congratulations. today is pub day. your baby is out into the world. it is. it s here. cooply, deeply reported 350 interviews and you really get into the history of the issue. so, it s a lot to get through. but, i guess the i will start at the end which is how the dam broke after this half century effort to overturn roe versus wade. doubled trump getting in the white house, obviously put the three justices on the supreme court. but at the end, what happened to push it over the finish line. our book is the first narrative of how roe fell and we looked at final decade what have we call the roe hear and they were able to move the levers in power and big and small working at statehouses pushing through legislation. and you point out donald trump is elected and they get they jump on that train. it is a bullet train for them. and they get really lucky and get three seats on the supreme court. and they are dealing with an abortion rights movement that is really ileequipped and unprepared to take on the threat in a country that has a pervasive sense of denial the right part of american life for two generations could suddenly disappear. so, donald trump obviously evangelicals were skeptical of him in 2015 and 2016 a talked about being pro choice. many time in public previous to that, and then maybe ultimately they realized they could perhaps shape him because he wants to be elected. one of the interesting things we found is it was not just evangelicals that catholics played an important role in the anti-abortion movement s growth origins. evangelicals were late coming to that in history. and leaders of the anti- abortion movement actually really were rooted in their conservative christian values. values about family, womenhood, and, of course, abortion. and what our story shows it was shows values that were behind the movement. certainly as lisa said there s all the levers of power they pulled. but at its core this is happening over a period when america s becoming increasingly secular. and there s so much cultural change especially when it comes to marriage, family and sex. and these are the things the anti-abortion movement ultimately is hoping to change. it is not just about overturning roe. it s about a much bigger half century plan to really rollback the sexual revolution. joe, you watched this so closely from the point of view of faith but also through politics over the course of your life. yeah. and your career. culminating once donald trump is in the white house with 50 years precedence overturned. right in right 50 years of precedence overturn and elizabeth you are right, catholics have been pro life for quite sometime as i always joke on the show. evangelicals my church southern baptists were pro choice from the time of jesus birth until the eagles broke up. and i just so when you say a new america, i think it s interesting it was a new republican party and redefinition by political activists in 1979, 1980, what it meant to be in the evangelical and what it meant to be a christian. and you had people like paul you richard and jerry falwell this is how we beat a southern baptist democrat. i am curious how did their political mass nations in 1979 and 1980 not only change american politician, but based on your reporting, how did it change how evangelicals looked at their own faith. in bringing in this political controversy that many now put at the center of their faith. well, look, if you think about politics influencing religion or religion influence politics, and the story that we have been really seeing you have been talking about on the show for so long, is in the trump era especially in the last decade, we are really seeing the merging of those two things. and politics influencing religion. and you know, you can think back to the very long game the anti-abortion movement, conservative christians think in generations about change not just a political cycle. but, also, the people that you mentioned, that s a couple generations ago. and there was actually this most recent generation that actually got overturning roe over the finish line was really led by conservative christian women. and they have a vision of what it means to be a woman in america. how motherhood fits into that. that really changed the game in the end. and it is not just the story of kind of the 80s religious right but a modern religious right that s not just issues about abortion but issues all kinds of cultural issues. in this whole realm about rolling back the sexual revolution. and some ways, they have radicalized along with the republican party it s a new generation of socially conservative activists and have gone, i think donald trump republican party expanded horizons of what is possible and that s part of what we see playing out in the politics now particularly on this issue. well, and let s also state what every survey shows. a the love people calm they will selves evan evangelicals. tim keller said he stopped using the term because it had been so politicized. i am curious, lisa, in your reporting, i think the cliff hanger here as dobbs was being decided after the leak was whether john roberts was going to be able to get kavanaugh or barrett to come with him and just go with the mississippi 15 week ban. i am curious what did your reporting find? how close did the chief justice get to getting one of those two to take a more incremental approach? well, he didn t get all that close. he tried and certainly tried hard but in the end, this is not what happened. and you know, one of the most interesting things i think we found is we uncovered some new sort of internal documents that showed where this movement wants to go in the future. and how you know elizabeth was talking about how this is a movement that is really intent on changing the structure or reverting in some ways the structure of american families and what we saw was they are looking at other things going forward and that was hinted at in the decision by thomas. but, certainly, the internal documents we got a handle on we are talking about transrights and talking about parental rights and religion and public squares and things like schools or town meetings, and same sex marriage. this is a beginning you know the start of a series of cases on the 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tonight s my night, though. okay. stephanie call 911 and and a gigantic fireman appeared. i thought, i get it now. i could get used to this. mommy s home. i came around the corner and our son said, it s just her. does everything have to be a joke with you? kind of, yeah. that is a look at the new standup special tig notaro hello, again in the special tig a mother of two speaks about the more humbling parts of parenthood as you heard there. and as well as health challenges that come with aging and even unexpected encounter she had with a firefighter inside her bedroom. the maniy and grammy nominated comedian joins us now. she is also the codirector of the movie, am i okay which premiers tomorrow on max. we will talk about that in a minute. tig so good to see you. you too. can we hear about the firefighter encounter on do you not want to give away too much about the special. it raised questions in your mind. it was a little confusing. i am married to a woman, and she had to call the she had to call 911, and a fireman came and hauled me out of the house in the middle of the night. and his just big strong arms holding me and carrying me really, i truly was in his arms thinking, oh my god, i get it now. i was so confused. and he also had a big mustache, and. that will get you. i didn t know i was into mustaches. i was so confused. because i was, you know, fighting for my life, but also like, am i in the wrong life or you know, i didn t know what was going on. but yeah. you got it. you got it a little bit. you got two kids as you talk about in the special. your wife also as you said stephanie, directed this. yes. what is the dynamic there in terms of work partnerships? she is directing you in a special how to you get along. we get along well. we met working together. we met as actors on a film and created shows, and written tv and film and we have done everything together. so, it just kind of felt more my wife has a different look than the fireman. but, my taste is all over the place. but, so, yeah, i feel like we have similar sensibilities with slight differences of course. but i think those differences elevate our vision and everything that we do. i mentioned the kids. there s a hilarious moment in the special recounts a moment she arrives home to less than enthusiastic children. one day, i came home by myself and when i walked in, the alarm said, side door open. and our son started yelling, mommy is home. mommy is home. and that s what they call stephanie. and then i came around the corner, and our son fin looked back at me and looked at his brother and said, it s just her. as if to say don t even bother even slightly turning your head. the let down is so monumental. learn from my mistake. some of us who have two kids at home i can relate. we all can. not being the chosen parent. tell us how you decided to draw from your home life, kids in particular, into your act? i mean, it just i feel like it s that extra sense as a comedian where i think this is definitely something i am going to take on stage. and then, you know, now that i am married with a family, i it s not just me anymore. so, i have had moments where steffi has been like, i feel like that s just for us. right. and which is fine because there s a million other opportunities. i say i live in a house with a writing staff. because there s always something that i can grab and use. no doubt we all have multiple children and i think we related to the moment i think i am the number three person in the house and there s four of us hold on a second. think when people see you on stage and watched your special, they think she just has it together all the time. she just walks out on the stage and just does it. and you talked a little bit about how the chaotic events leading unto the special, and i am sure leading up to what you do on the stage, talk to us a little bit about that. because people don t always see that side of comedians and others who perform publicly. when you say. i think you talked about traveling through europe and losing are suitcase and. yeah, yeah oh my gosh. and the things that go into what you do on stage. you don t just pop out there. i normally do, i am a freak of nature in that way where i can just show up at show time. walk in and the back stage door and walk on stage. but, when i was touring europe before this special, i did i lost my suitcase for almost three weeks. and it was just on tour without me. seeing all the sights that i was hoping to. and i also somebody walked in front of me at the airport, with their huge luggage, and tripped me and i was launched fractured my wrist, and ended up on crutches for the rest of my tour. and i just got off crutches three days before that special. i didn t think i was going to be able to tape it. did you see that person in the airport. i mean. truly. hurt too. we talked about your professional collaboration with stephanie. you codirected the movie am i okay starring dakota johnson. tell us about that. it is a movie that was written by our friend lauren ponerantz who is outrageous such a great writer. and it s a later in life coming out story. dakota plays i think a 32-year- old. it s not like a grandmother is coming out. but she should if she wants to. but, yeah, it s just a story about friendship but also coming out, and basically you should be who you are at any age and do what you want to do, and it s really such a beautiful performance by dakota. i really think and know we just screened it the other night, the audience went nuts for it. it is so funny. it is so touching, and there s some silly parts in it, too. but, yeah, it s, i think it s really good. don t go anywhere. we have a second hour of morning joe weekend right after the break. rning joe weekend ri the break. all eyes on me a brand new trip is what they see. on my feet brand new whip is what they see. whip is what they see. . jeep there s only one. during the jeep make this the summer event get 2000 bonus. 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york. nobody s ever seen because dinner was rigged. the election was rigged the last time. i will tell you that. i did much better than i did in 2016. millions more votes but a lot of bad things happen. he used covid to cheat. impeachment hoax number one. everything is a hoax. meanwhile everything is a hoax the former president spoke to dr. phil about wanting to take the stand at his trial and how sometimes revenge can be justified. i have a lot of lawyers that are friends. i had probably 25 goes over the course of a couple months say whatever you do don t testify because you will say something just a little bit off and you will be indicted for lying or perjury. these are evil people. these are sick, evil people. i think you have so much to do, you don t have time to get even. you only have time to get right? well revenge it does take time. i will say that. and sometimes revenge can be justified. i have to be honest. sometimes it can? revenge does take time. revenge can be justified. susan glasser, this gets at what you re writing about in the new yorker. this idea that donald trump, everything, everything is about him and you show up at a rally and all you hear about are the injustices committed against him in the world and how he s a martyr and a victim and everything else. you never hear him talking about how he will make people s lives better, which is what presidential campaigns used to be about. that s right. if you go back and look, this is a significant escalation and radicalization of trump around himself in a way that is quite different from his 2016 or even his 2020 campaigns. the other part of the agenda has diminished and the all about trump part of the agenda has taken over fully. and to the point about contrast with president biden. barry struck that at a moment when biden makes a clear focus on his efforts to combat what s happening in the world, you have trump repeatedly saying in recent days that he essentially doesn t care that much about russia and china. they are not such a big problem pick the biggest problem is the enemy within. this is emerging as a real theme for trump s campaign and he proposes to do something about it. you saw that amazing clip with dr. phil. even sympathetic interviewers these days try to get trump to say it s not about revenge and he won t buy it because it is about revenge. again and again and again trump is telling us very clearly. i guess my question is, are people really listening to what he is saying? is different than what he said before. the biden campaign says people will start listening and to this point they have largely tuned out trump. the trial has come and gone and he will be out there with more high profile settings and name with the debate and it can t be stressed enough how much the biden campaign is betting on that debate to change the trajectory of the race believing americans were here trump talk about things like revenge and how it s justified and be repelled by it. my question to you is is the bet right? do we think the biden campaign this is been aesthetic race to this point and we ve seen a little moment here and there including after the verdict for the most part we can say it s close but trump has had narrow but consistent leads in most of the battleground states. do we think this argument here, this dangerous argument on revenge will change their minds? two great things happen as a result of the trial. one was the guilty verdict and this has put trump on a path that this is all he could talk about never hear the words inflation from his mouth. you don t hear the words immigration or crime or any of the talking points he would usually use. he is consumed with this now and even now we are a week or eight days of the trial and this is all he could talk about. this is not what voters want to hear. i don t think any voter will say i ve yet to see the numbers in the polls. i see things about immigration in the polls and democracy but i don t see revenge as an issue any voter has said is a key issue. the more donald talks about that, the better it is for biden. jean robinson, the story i don t know. it s a snapshot of our time and where we are right now that bends your mind. i ll read it to you. two officers who defended the capitol on january 6 were booed by pennsylvania republicans this week pick this happened as former capitol police officer harry dunn and former sergeant aquilino gonell, two officers that help to protect the capitol on january 6 and prevent the overturning of the 2020 election visited the pennsylvania state house as part of a cross-country tour to discuss the threat they say donald trump poses to the country. we are told some republican members not only booed them but turned their backs on the officers and even walked out. this comes as they have been on the campaign trail in key battleground states in an effort to get president biden re-elected. this is the upside down world we are living in right now where police officers, think back the blue and support the police and all that stuff, who stood in the doorway defending democracy and turned back a group of people who were led to the capitol by ally committed violence in the capitol, try to overturn our system of democracy, those officers are now being booed by republicans. it is unbelievable. one of those officers was injured, a real injury to his foot defending the capitol. the other was showered with racist abuse and, of course, physically threatened and endangered defending the capitol , defending our members of congress. trying to do their duty in the citadel of our democracy and they get booed. look, one of our two major political parties has completely lost its mind and that s largely because of donald trump. and it is not just the senators and the representatives who are out there with incendiary and inflammatory rhetoric, but at the local level it s the rot, the craziness is even deeper and, in a sense, a more worrisome because if you look state republican parties, there are fanatical, sort of, unhinged people who are becoming not just a significant faction and those parties but in control of republican parties in our major states. this is a political emergency that we are going to be dealing with, i think, for a while because even if donald trump is defeated this november, all this , sort of, insanity in the republican party across the country doesn t immediately go away. this will be with us. this is a small group of republican lawmakers in pennsylvania, sure, but it s representative of something else, is it not? the crime committed by these two police officers, in the eyes of the people blowing them , are that they are crossing donald trump and they are speaking the truth about donald trump and the truth about what they saw with their own eyes on january 6. you know, in the last 24 hours if need a contrast i don t think you could find anything more stony than if you follow the news on the one hand biden at normandy giving a speech and seeing the faces of those heroes, 98, 99, 100-year- old man from the greatest generation and you feel that greatness. and then you listen to donald trump doing an interview yesterday and hearing him talk about what s wrong with this country and the hate and the venom and the self obsession and the vengeance and the revenge. and then you hear local republican lawmakers booing january 6 policeman and turning the back to them. one party is about darkness and grievance and negativity and self-loathing. and the other party is and will be throughout this campaign about positivity and i think there s about contrast there. next, homeland security secretary alejandra mallorca s response to president biden s executive order about the southern border. known as a loving parent. known for lessons that matter. known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. 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democrats, but explain how this works. what happens as this executive order goes into effect? what happens to the excessive number of migrants trying to make a cross over the border. good morning and thank you for having me. the goal here is to reduce the number of people who come to the southern border of the united states and cross illegally. our goal is to drive people who seek and need humanitarian relief into the lawful, safe and orderly pathways that we have built. individuals who arrive at our border and cross illegally will be barred from asylum, with exceptions. however, 1400 people who have made appointments through our cbp one app will be able to seek asylum in the united states through our ports of entry. individuals who have access our parole program for cubans, haitians, nicaraguans and venezuelans will be able to access assignment relief in the united states we have built an unprecedented number of lawful pathways, but we are going to secure our border and reduce the number of people who are encountered at its. mr. secretary, good morning. i think the question for a lot of people and not just conservatives, is what took so long to get to this place? we can go well before the legislation, that group of senators work hard to present and then republicans and the congress turned their backs on it on the instruction of donald trump. but going back even further than that, a system that allows people to show up at the border, claim asylum, sometimes legitimately and sometimes not, and move into the country because they know it will take years for the asylum hearing to come up, why did it take so long to get to this place which does seem rational to many people? well, two points. first of all, you have ceased accurately upon the fundamental problem with our asylum system that it takes years and years and we need congress to fix it. only congress can provide the enduring solution, which is legislation. but that s let s take a look at the chronology. on day one of his administration, the president presented congress with a comprehensive legislation to fix our broken immigration system. since then and up until may of last year, we have been operating under the public health order of title 42. when that order was lifted in may of last year, we drove the numbers down, despite some predictions that pandemonium would ensue. shortly thereafter, the president implored congress to fund this department and other departments that administer our immigration laws as we need to be resourced. he, in august, submitted a supplemental funding package. and then again in october he submits another supplemental funding package. and neither was picked up by congress most regrettably and most importantly . we then went into an arduous, hard-working process to develop bipartisan, senate legislation that would have fundamentally fixed our asylum system. and once and for all properly resourced this department and the department of justice and state. twice congress failed to pass that legislation and so the president took this executive action within his lawful authority. mr. secretary, good morning. you outlined the domestic political challenges with what s happening at the border but the united states is not alone in this. is also mexico and they just had a new election. can you tell us the relationship and the guidelines you will use as your approach with the new administration there. are you hopeful they will cooperate? we have built a very strong and productive partnership with mexico, with the president, we expect that strong and productive partnership to continue under the presidency of claudia sheinbaum . and this challenge of migration is a regional challenge and it requires regional solutions, not just in partnership with mexico, but in partnership with other countries such as costa rica, panama, colombia, guatemala, ecuador, and the like. we are experiencing not just at the southern border but the rudder hemisphere and around the world an unprecedented level of migration, an unprecedented number of displaced people and regional challenges require regional solutions. homeland security secretary alejandra mallorca s, thank you very much for coming on the show this morning. we appreciate it. we have lots more to get to this hour. morning joe: weekend continues after a short break . oncern me? because you re.the. aren t you the..? huh.we never actually discussed hierarchy. ok, why don t we just stick to letting dave know how much he can save when he bundles his home or auto with his boat or rv. wait, i thought jamie was the boss. 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she said you been faced with so much adversity and persecution for years, what is your relationship with god like and how do you pray? that s sharon from alabama. i think it s good. i do very well with the evangelicals. i love the evangelicals. and i have more people saying they pray for me. i can t even believe it and they are so committed and so believing. they say, sir, you re going to be okay. i pray for you every night. i mean, everybody. i can t say everybody but almost everybody that sees me, they say, it s such a beautiful thing you know what s a beautiful thing too? when you look at all this bad stuff going on, they have nothing to look up to. they have no god. they have no anything. they kill people. bb-8 people. they push people into subways. there s just nothing there. religion is such a great thing. it keeps you you know, there s something to be good about. you want to be good. it so important. i don t know if it s explained right or if i m explaining it right but when you have something like that, you want to be good. you want to go to heaven, okay? you want to go to heaven. if you don t have heaven you almost say, what s the reason? why do we have to be good? let s not be good. what difference does it make? really, i don t know what to say. religion is a good thing, it was his reaction. he was asked, what is your relationship with god? he said, i do good with evangelicals. asked about his prayer life, he says, people come to me and say, sir, i pray for you every night. proving an extraordinary ability to sound clueless after all these years on the most basic questions of faith. and what is your relationship with god and talk about your prayer life, are two of the most basic questions. joining us now, nbc news national affairs analyst and partner in chief political columnist at hawk. i know he and his former partner, mark halperin, also asked donald trump questions about faith in 2016. new testament or old testament? and his answer was both. what is your favorite bible verse? what your favorite bible verse? oh, i don t want to talk. and david brody at cbn asked him if god has forgiven them and he said, well, i don t pray to god for forgiveness. there is no reason for me to be forgiven. this is a man, of course, who is claiming massive support because he s getting it among self-described evangelicals, john. please explain that to us all. thank you for comparing me with one of the great mysteries of life and modern politics. look. you had that took earlier today and i do think the change that took place that you pointed to in the religious right went from essentially the political people kind of guiding the movement and taking it to a new place to where it has become more recently, which is the religious people kind of took over in some sense the conservative movement and they started to channel their desires through political instruments. trump became for a lot of people in the antiabortion movement and more broadly on the values right, trump became a totally instrument to advance their causes and i think it s one of the most cynical things i ve seen in politics. think about people talking about true believers and talk about the faithful being single issue voters are blinded by their beliefs and ideologically driven extremists. in a lot of ways they became more instrumental than almost any faction in american politics. they look to trump and said we know he s not a christian. we know he doesn t believe anything he says, but this guy is her ticket to getting done what we want to get done. overturning roe v wade is one thing but across the board he became the tool by which they could achieve things they had long wanted to achieve and had been able to achieve and they turned out to be right about that but they meet a very deep, very cynical deal with the devil and i don t mean to call trump the devil here but it deal they said, you know, the man s not one of us but who cares. he will win and will get it done and will do what we tell him to. but they were making that bargain even before donald trump with paul wyrick and jerry falwell and richard saying, what we will do is we re going to actually turn abortion does not only into a key political issue for evangelicals but we will turn it into a religious issue. so you have a southern baptist church coming from pro-choice to pro-life. the southern baptist church, and other mainstream protestant denominations going from being pro-choice, or quite on the issue to pro-life. that s one step. but it moves forward now to where it becomes the most important issue. these political issues become the most important political issues. so if you talk to people of faith, like russell moore, and others, they would tell you pete wayne, they would tell you the so-called deal with the devil was the deal evangelical leaders made some time ago when they decided to replace spiritual goals with secular goals. we are not going to fight the spiritual battles and try to win people. that s not going to be our primary focus for a lot of these evangelical leaders we hear with a national audience. their primary focus is going to be on the secular, whether that s gaining and keeping political power or telling adherents how to become rich, the so-called prosperity gospel , which, again, both of those are completely opposite of what jesus preached about over three years. and i will say the only place, to put a fine point on it here i don t think the christian right thought that ronald reagan was a spiritual vandal. i think they thought he was one of them. i think they thought george w. bush was genuinely born again. i think they thought that mitt romney took a spiritual life spiritual seriously. even though the demands of faith and to some extent go to politics prior to donald trump, donald trump is the most gratuitous, extreme outgrowth of the thing you re talking about where they basically look at a guy and collectively that these are not stupid people in this movement. there are some stupid people everywhere, but there was a calculated thing for the christian right look to trump and knew full well that he was not one of them did not believe the same things they believed. did not go to church. was probably, privately, pro- choice. was someone who would done all kinds of things, someone heard about in this trial over the last seven or eight weeks, all kinds of things they would find morally depraved and unacceptable and simple and he made no real effort to try to even pretend to be one of them when he would answer these questions. and yet they said, we don t care because this is a winning ticket for us. with him under our thumb, we will be able to get that supreme court majority we have so wanted. and as i said before, they got it. and we elected a president, not a saint. look the other way on a lot of stuff so they get what they want. people asked me where can i get more and today we have an answer. the impolitic podcast. watch today 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yeah. i think you benefited from his stature and did not abide by the gag order. most people what be nailed with fines and things like that but he s going to bite on that so i think he was absolutely treated fairly, if not better than most people during the trial. i do trust the legal system enough that if the prosecution and defense were able to pick jurors and they presented it so quickly and the jurors and the judge all agree to follow due process and found him guilty quickly, i have a hard time believing that there were that many jurors agreed upon that were all in on it. he s not guilty but we will find him guilty for?. the thought that donald trump was given a fair trial. none of those people said, in that focus group, that it was going to impact their vote. that said, polling of undecideds in georgia and north carolina showed that actually quite a few did believe it would have an impact on their vote. let s bring in the host of majority rules in the undecideds and founder of all in together, lauren leader. i m looking at the top line on the polling that you all took 78% believe the verdict was the right verdict. 21% thought it was the wrong verdict. and this is the difference in voting with the threat of prison hanging over donald trump . a very large difference, 12%. large difference, 50%, moderate difference, 23%. and that adds up to over 50%. over 50% of these so-called double haters said it could have an impact on their vote, but overwhelmingly almost all of them believed donald trump got a fair trial. yeah. and that was what was so fascinating, especially listening to the conversation. first of all, there was so nuanced and thoughtful about the responses and i want to say this is so far the only swing state poll that s been done since the verdict and it s going to matter a lot because the swing states will decide the election and undecided voters will be a huge factor in the decisions of the election. what struck me was that incredible contrast between this competence in the legal system the jury was fair and the trial was fair and trump was treated fairly said they did not buy any of the trump claims the whole thing was rigged and unfair to him. they did not buy that at all. and yet they also felt it was politically motivated. the trial was brought this year because of the election. that it wasn t an important enough issue to have been brought. a number of them talked about the documents case in florida, the classified documents as being more important and did not understand why this was brought this year. i will also say they did not understand the charges but they could not articulate what it was they he was convicted of. that s why fascinating about this dynamic and we see this in national polls, as well. americans are saying it doesn t matter are there have been some polls saying it doesn t matter. that he was treated fairly. the verdict was fair and yet somehow he still going to win and it doesn t matter that he is a felon, and i think that s going to be a hard circle for the biden campaign to square over the next few months. we have lots more to get to this hour. morning joe: weekend continues after a short break. salonpas, it s good medicine. hi, i m eileen. i live in vancouver, washington and i write mystery novels. as i was writing, i found that i just wasn t sharp and that doesn t work when you re writing a mystery and i knew i needed to do something so i started taking prevagen. i realized that i was much more clear, much sharper. i was remembering the details that i was supposed to. prevagen keeps my brain working right. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. my fear of recurrence could ve held me back. but i m staying focused. and doing more to prevent recurrence. verzenio is specifically for hr-positive, her2-negative, node-positive early breast cancer with a high chance of returning, as determined by your doctor when added to hormone therapy. verzenio reduces the risk of recurrence versus hormone therapy alone. diarrhea is common, may be severe, or cause dehydration or infection. at the first sign, call your doctor, start an antidiarrheal, and drink fluids. before taking verzenio, tell your doctor about any fever, chills, or other signs of infection. verzenio may cause low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infection that can lead to death. life-threatening lung inflammation can occur. tell your doctor about any new or worsening trouble breathing, cough, or chest pain. serious liver problems can happen. symptoms include fatigue, appetite loss, stomach pain, and bleeding or bruising. blood clots that can lead to death have occurred. tell your doctor if you have pain or swelling in your arms or legs, shortness of breath, chest pain and rapid breathing or heart rate, or if you are nursing, pregnant, or plan to be. i m focusing on what counts. talk to your doctor about reducing your risk. 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well, we definitely felt hope and optimism because that was what jake sullivan was relaying to us and there was the feeling that there is this full-court press of enough is enough. we want to get these people home, all 124. and of course the american eight is something that hangs on everyone in the administration and the entire american government and he felt confident that the right people were going back to the region. we know that brett mcgurk and director bill burns were, shortly after the conversation, already on their way back to the region, which was hopeful for all of us. at the end of the day though, we know that whether you had these extremely seasoned negotiators, diplomats, experts, aides, doing all that they are doing, the final outcome is going to come from two men only deciding and that, i think, is what is so painfully torturous about this. jon, today marks eight months since october 7 since hersh was abducted. when you sit in that meeting with jake sullivan and speak as you have been for eight months to officials inside the u.s. government, what did they say today about the best hope to get the hostages? is it a deal? is it a rescue mission? what sounds most promising to you and to the people trying to pull this off? yeah. the good news is the focus in that is everybody believes the best possible way to do this is through a deal. the bad news is we been hearing that for most of the last eight months, and as you know, we are not there yet. i think what president biden did last friday night was brave and courageous and we applaud him. he took a negotiation that was stuck in neutral, maybe even sometimes in rivers and in one fell swoop it s like you pushed into third gear. now we need to keep the momentum going. and as rachel said, there are all the right people in the region. we need to push on the leaders of israel and the leaders of hamas, and have them buy in to what the mediators are pushing. it s a deal that has to get done because the israeli people are suffering. our hostages are suffering. innocent gazan civilians are suffering and eight months is eight months too many picks payment rachel, you ve been through many of these meetings now with american officials and you ve been through a lot of ups and downs , how are you and jon managing to temper your own emotions and exhaustion, your sleep, your food when faced now with another prospect that may be there is reason to be a little bit more optimistic given this latest push? well, every morning we get up and we look at each other and say, hope is mandatory and we try our very best to struggle through another day of elegant, intense torment. and it is absolutely not easy. we are broken and suffering, and yet we have no choice. there is no choice but to keep it running . and were not just running, we are sprinting. this is what all the hostage families are doing. we just have no choice but to keep full speed ahead trying every thing we can possibly do. and we are praying that the leaders of both sides, for their own personal interests the not going to come together because they both suddenly have an epiphany moment and feel they should be on the same page, but that s part of compromise. you give up something that you hold dear for something you hold more deer. so whatever interests are on the israeli side or the hamas side need to just lean forward and with the help of these expert negotiators and seasoned diplomats who are in there trying to grease the wheels, we are praying that we get a result. everyone in this region, i can t even call it suffering, it s the next step above suffering, and we need for the leaders to put an end to it. jon, one of those leaders, prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said he will come to washington and address congress on july 24. what do you make of that invitation and what do you hope to hear from him that day? july 24, to us, feels like an eternity away. we are obviously hoping that but july 24 all the hostages are back home. the region is on a path forward , and i would be thrilled if prime minister netanyahu can show up and give a variation of a victory speech. i want nothing more than that. and by the way, i m also okay with the other side giving his people a victory speech if that s what it takes to get this done. let s get it done. a lot can happen between now and july 24 and we are hopeful. next, new documentary sheds light on one couple s emotional and enduring mission to combat als. with us. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i d buy stilts. being so tall definitely has its advantages. oh whoa. here you go, kiddo. thanks. hi honey ready to go? yup. there it is, there it is. ahhh.here we go. i guess it also has some disadvantages. yes it does. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty, liberty. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. organic soil from miracle-gro has grown me the best garden i have ever had. good soil, and you get good results. look at that! the broccoli was fantastic. that broccoli! i think some of them were six, seven pounds. her uncle s unhappy. i m sensing an iunderlying issue.em it s t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit. unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock.” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it s not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? 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i gather you know each other? just a little bit. i m trying not to cry right now, honestly, because i ve known you so long. and i m so proud to know you and brian. and what you ve done is remarkable. i mean, you ve really brought this to life for people who weren t tracking with this disease was, he did not know they had a voice or power to have a voice. and before i get more emotional, you both had done so much before brian was diagnosed as public servants contributing to electing barack obama, but this is your greatest legacy, which is remarkable. you just want to ask for people watching out there who think maybe they have als or another disease or maybe they feel their voice isn t heard and they can t make a difference, what would you tell them about what they should do? so many people feel powerless and you have shown that you are empowered and you can be powerful. absolutely. and with these neurodegenerative diseases, whether it s als or parkinson s or ms, these diseases affect the way you speak or move so these are difficult diseases to live a public life with. oftentimes, that you have an illness. so people, they turn inward. that is the instinct. that is what brian and i are b trying to encourage people to fight against because when they do come forward, their voices are so powerful and having been in government and advocacy for so long prior to our diagnosis, i mean, our whole job for so e many years was to elevate people who were affected by policy. when that happened to us, we knew that even if we were just one voice, even if you are just one voice, being public, if you have one of these illnesses, ve can have such an impact.
class= nosel > div class= colspacer > div class= gutr > oftentimes, that you have an illness. so people, they turn inward. that is the instinct. that is what brian and i are b trying to encourage people to fight against because when they do come forward, their voices are so powerful and having been in government and advocacy for so long prior to our diagnosis, i mean, our whole job for so e many years was to elevate people who were affected by policy. when that happened to us, we knew that even if we were just one voice, even if you are just one voice, being public, if you have one of these illnesses, ve can have such an impact. that is all the time we have for today. thank you for joining us the r saturday morning. we re back tomorrow at six:00 a.m. with two more hours of t morni joe weekend. we will see you then. u then good morning. it is saturday, june 8. i am alicia menendez with symone sanders-townsend and michael steele. right now, president joe biden is in paris in a crucial fight for democracy both at home and abroad. the latest on the ground in just a moment. breaking news from his rule. the military says it has rescued four hostages from gaza. we are live in the region with those details. also this morning, republican calls for retribution after the guilty verdict. they are stronger and more specific. get your coffee and settle in. welcome to the weekend . we begin this hour with breaking news. we have a busy saturday for president biden on the world stage. right now the president is in a meeting with emmanuel macron following a procession the two leaders participated in earlier this morning. they are expected to deliver remarks later this morning. this is all part of the president s trip to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the allied invasion of normandy and world war ii. throughout the visit, the president has emphasized the threat to our democracy, not just here at home but also abroad. it is as urgent as it was 80 years ago. joining us now to discuss is staff writer for the atlantic and msnbc contributor and former homeland security and counterterrorism advisor to vice president mike pence, welcome to you both. this was quite the week for president biden to stand on the global stage in a way that he did to talk about the urgency of this moment in democracy and relating it back to history. what was your take on what the president had to say and how do you think it resonated, not just with our european allies but here at home? there we go. i get it. i think he did an excellent job and he is an excellent leader on the world stage. it was critical to show that face to the world and also to americans. you know, i think michael, you know, he did have sort of that reaganesque quality and i thought it was important to talk about, you know, the people that have served in the military, the lives that have been given to freedom and that is really what is at stake here. you know, i saw some criticism on fox and other channels, why isn t he attacking trump in this moment? he never mentioned trupp. he never mentioned him by name, i don t believe. i think what he needed to say is that this is a bigger choice, bigger choice then each and every one of us, it is a choice about what do we want our future to be as a country? let s honor those lives that served. important stuff. olivia, the words of president biden were so poignant, i thought spot on, let s play a little bit of what he talked about when it comes to hardships of american democracy. this is the president in normandy, france on friday with emmanuel macron. we talk about democracy. american democracy. we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. what we don t talk about is how hard it is, how many ways we are asked to walk away, how many instincts are to walk away, the most natural instinct is to walk away. to be selfish, to force our will upon others, to seize power and never give up. american democracy asked the hardest of things, to believe in something bigger than ourselves. does anybody think michael donald trump could have given that speech? alicia, i don t know. it is a rhetorical question. it speaks to all the reporting you have been doing, which is the impossible to watch president biden on the world stage without doing a compare and contrast, not just us, people who show up on cable news but as an american watching at home and certainly if you are an ally watching. yeah, the themes biden is sounding in the speeches and throughout these events commemorating d-day are very familiar themes from past administrations and frankly, both parties. to olivia s point, sounds like ronald reagan, george h. bush, george w. bush, not a very popular president abroad. in certain things, there has been a bipartisan consensus in this country for a long time. one of those things is the important aspect of the transatlantic relationship and the fact it is rooted in western democratic values and belief that america is supposed to align with other democracies and that alliance is a safeguard for the rest of the world and what is interesting is that speech biden gave would have been completely uncontroversial and unmemorable, you know, just a few short years ago. now it is like, you know, right in the middle of a massive domestic political debate about what role america should play in the world and what it does to its allies. that compare and contrast is really start this year. you touched on that, mckay, actually, in a great observation of your fears, the irony of the obsession with the election is that the people who decide this are not thinking about your much at all. in part, it is because many americans have not seen the need for nato in their lifetime, despite the fact that this september 11th terrorist attacks were the only time article 5 has been invoked. you touched on a very important point about disconnection. actually and ironically, something george bush 43 warned about on the heels of 9/11. we cannot forget this moment. we feel good, we are unified now, we understand we are standing in defense of our values and we are prepared to prosecute the case against terrorism but all of that is dissipated, that connection to those institutions that hold all of this together and i think biden, being there, and saying what he said was important, but you point out the fact that there is still this tension, this disconnect that needs to be reconciled between us and europe, between our role in the world and the rest of the world and how we, as americans, look at these institutions. so i was traveling throughout europe this spring and talking to european officials and diplomats and the thing that kept coming up is this real sense of uncertainty about what america is anymore, right? because for 75 years, since world war ii, your even when they disagreed with people we elected, even then they didn t really like certain administrations, they trusted in america to be a reliable ally. america was the linchpin to the nato alliance, it was going to be a generally responsible member of the global community, right? that first trump term really did damage to america s reputation and to the trust america could be relied upon. again and again, i would hear these european officials sort of ask me, what does it mean that donald trump is currently leading in the polls? what s wrong with y all? because they finally remember the u. s. that stormed the beaches of normandy, that is the your america a lot of europeans still remember and we wonder how many europeans remember that. to crystallize that point, olivia, let s listen to something liz cheney put out, called our great task. take a listen. one s country is worth dying for. democracy is worth dying for because it is the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. all of you love liberty. all of you were willing to fight tyranny. you knew the people of your countries with were behind two. today we give thanks for all that was gained on the beaches of normandy. we remember what was lost with respect, admiration and love. this freedom and these hopes are with the heroes of dj fought and died for. america deserves a president as good and steadfast as our nation. a president of character, driven by a noble purpose, one who honors the sacrifices of our troops, not a man consumed by spite, revenge and self-pity. you don t need to say the name, olivia, to know who it is they are talking about there. yeah, you don t. at this time, it reminds me of trump saying these people are losers and every time i think about that, a president of the united states would ever say something like that, my stomach turns. watching that ad and thinking about my time during the trump administration working in national security, i think what lacked among some of the inner circles, including trump himself was a greater purpose of service and i don t think that any of these people that is in his inner circle, i am talking about his enable us and him, understand a greater calling, understand something that you belong to that is bigger than yourself and bigger than your selfishness of what these people have exhibited because most of them never did serve. they don t understand military service, they don t understand the intelligence community, they don t understand public service. i think it is a threat to not remind ourselves to what the president, as what they stand for and what they represent and what they will eventually do. a reminder, we will likely pull out of nato because those discussions were had during the trump administration. the reason the world is so concerned about what is about to happen should he return to office is because i was in those meetings when we were having serious discussions with warren hendrix, where the narrative for a daily basis, where he would say, i thought we agreed to this and it would change. we did this on venezuela. i am telling you, i covered africa for vice president pence, i sat in these discussions where there would be a commitment made and they would pull the rug out from under him. that is not how you do diplomacy. that is not how you do these diplomatic relations. they are so critical and so challenging. olivia, people at home may not appreciate fully what you are saying because literally all the thing is you do this, i will do that and we come to an agreement. people need to keep their word, that is it. not even just the idea but the fact, we often talk about it but the choice, as alicia noted, the stark choice that is before the american people could not have been made more clear today, this week, frankly, with what we saw from president biden juxtaposed with the republican nominee. the nato , 80 years ago when ad happened, nato was not established. was allied troops that came together, the world came together and took the beaches of normandy. it was that time in normandy that turned the tide to end world war ii, it led to the establishment of nato world cooperation years later and we are in a severe moment, the president talked about linking ad to what is happening in ukraine and the fight right now , i want to play that for you and see how you guys talk about it on the other side. between dictatorship and freedom, it is unending. here in europe, we see one stark example , ukraine has been invaded by a tyrant for domination. ukrainians are fighting with extraordinary courage, suffering great losses, but never backing down. the united states and nato, a coalition of more than 50 countries, standing strong with ukraine. we will not walk away. mckay, it sounds to me like the president is standing in front of the world trying to convince people, making everyone feel okay that as long as i am here, we will be standing with ukraine but as the time magazine article said about a week ago about american presidents, they must earn their mandate and we don t know if joe biden will earn his. yeah, that s right. again, going throughout europe and talking to these european officials, the thing i heard again and again was, look , the biden administration has been great. they are doing everything they can to say the right things and they are trying to reassure allies who were around during trump s administration. at the end of the day, the biden administration can only do so much. i even spoke to officials in the biden administration in washington who say we are ambassadors out there, trying to reassure allies, they got their talking points. these people in europe are smart, right? they know the promises that joe biden is making only go so far and, you know, because the outcome of the election is going to determine the future of america s approach to alliances. mckay and olivia, you will stick with us and we will continue this conversation in just a moment. now to other breaking news is our. four israeli hostages have been rescued in raleigh a a live by idf. they were kidnapped from the nova music 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and how will this come together? reporter: michael, the idea is that these four hostages freed from gaza are in good condition medically. we have seen pictures of noa argamani, the viewers will remember, that young woman being taken into gaza from the music festival on october 7th on the back of that motorcycle, her hands outstretched to her boyfriend, who was also being kidnapped. he was marched away into gaza. we have seen images of her this morning at a hospital in the greater tel aviv area. you can see her there, reuniting her with her father. it is extraordinary to think that eight months and one day after she was kidnapped, she is smiling, she is laughing. she is speaking with her family. she spoke on the phone earlier today with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. it was very interesting, guys, she said in that phone call, i haven t spoken in hebrew in such a long time, which suggests she was being held on her own, away from other hostages. that does appear to chime in with the report we are getting from the israeli military, detailed, obviously, still emerging. just setting the scene here, this was in the center of gaza in broad daylight at 11:00 a.m. the israeli military says hundreds of soldiers took part, there was a part from air and by sea. they say they stormed two separate buildings that we believe noa argamani was being held on her own in one of those buildings and the three male hostages were being held in a separate building. at least one israeli soldier was seriously wounded in this raid but this seems to be the single greatest success in terms of hostage rescue we have had, that is ruled has had in the course of this eight months. you will remember, guys, only three other hostages had been rescued alive up until this point. today four hostages in just a couple of hours. now you can see noa argamani on your screen. she is speaking to israeli president isaac herzog, who was telling her just how overjoyed his rule is to see her say, to see her home. there have been celebrations across this country today. the lifeguards on the beach in tel aviv announcing the news over a loudspeaker. people jumping up and cheering in front of the mediterranean on this saturday here in is ruled. we met the father of noa argamani on october 8, less than 24 hours after his daughter had been kidnapped by hamas. he is at her side right now. her mother, as far as we know at this point, is not. her mother is dying of brain cancer. for these eight months she has been telling the world her dying wish was to see her daughter once again. she is in very serious condition at another hospital in tel aviv, but we believe mother and daughter are going to be reunited later on today. noa s boyfriend, who you see in that video from october 7th being marched by a crowd of militants into gaza, remains one of the 120 hostages still being held. this is obviously a moment of joy, while this is obviously a moment of joy for noa and her family, her partner remained inside gaza, his fate unknown at this hour, as is the fate of so many of those 120 other hostages. well there is celebration here in israel, there is mourning in gaza right now because there are reports of at least 50 people killed during this israeli raid. we know there was intense bombardment by israeli aircraft, by israeli ships to cover the special forces and moved in. we don t know how many of those 50 or so killed were militants, how many of them were civilians. this is just an enormous, enormous moment here in is ruled. it is really hard to overstate the happiness here. one israeli friend told me the whole country is crying. guys? nbc, thank you so much for that report. next with olivia troye and mckay coppins will be back with us to discuss mckay s new piece about a potential special second trump term and we will discuss the news breaking out of his rule. you are watching the weekend . e weekend . 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because he was afraid his hair would become disheveled. remember, that day it was raining. he did not want to go to the cemetery because it was raining. more importantly, to his staff, his senior staff he remarked, quote, why should i go to that cemetery? it s filled with losers. and then he referred to the more than 1800 marines who lost their lives as suckers for getting killed. olivia, in the context of the work you have done in foreign- policy, what does it mean to contrast, and i think it is important for the american people to get this contrast in leadership, a man who refuses to visit the men who sacrificed themselves for freedom and democracy on foreign shores, right, because he didn t want to get his hair messed up and looked at them as suckers and losers versus a president who stands on that hollowed ground and reminds us of our call to destinies, to destiny as citizens of the world, that this fight for democracy is an important battle and we must be engaged in it together. okay, i think it is a critical reminder of what trump views value to be in a situation like this, which is himself and no one else. there is no interest in military baller. he doesn t think about the lives of these people and going into critical international situations, where you are making decisions on troops, when you are making decisions on intelligence officers and what is the next step, deliberations that are very calculated, i want americans to remember that. these are your sons, your daughters, your brothers, sisters, moms and dads and remember that there is the potential to have a president back in the oval office that will make those decisions along the way where he will have complete disregard for what it truly means when these people deploy and what happens to them. in other ways, he has no regard or respect for the fact of what it means to serve, right? that is why you end up with classified documents at mar-a- lago because he forgets that in those classified documents there are lives at risk. there our sources there. there are people there put at risk every day with the possibility of that information getting into the wrong hands because he doesn t hear and he doesn t think about things that way. he only thinks about himself. this is a leader solely focused on his own qualities which is why, by the way, he doesn t think about the alliance with nato. he doesn t think about european allies that really actually have our backs should there be a critical moment when they need them. he is thinking about dictators and his best friends are people like victoire ben, these are leaders he looks up to. that is a direct contrast between what president biden is and what former president trump is. that is what we think about and remember. i think the top line from your extensively reported piece is that the allies are watching this election understanding the existential crisis. you have the last 30 seconds, you are take away. yeah, i mean, the two things that stood out to me in all my conversations in you are, one, they are intensely focused on this election in america. everybody is paying attention. according to polling data from battleground states. the second, almost all of them believe trump is going to win. i found myself in a position saying, it is not a foregone conclusion, it is a tight race, anything could happen. scared is the best way to put it. they are scared of what will happen to the nato alliance, to european security, what it will signal to russia, to china, if donald trump comes back into office and abandons his allies. they rely on american stability and americans steadfastness for its alliances and they do not think they will get that with donald trump. so chilling. mckay coppins and olivia troye, thank you so much for getting us started. as january 6th community committee members are in jail, we will talk to the directors of the new documentary next. you are watching the weekend . i thought i was sleeping ok. but i was waking up so tired. then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. their four point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better. and stay married. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. if you re living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills. good to go off the grid. good to go nonstop. with cabenuva, there s no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it s two injections from a healthcare provider. just 6 times a year. don t receive cabenuva if you re allergic to its ingredients or if you re taking certain medicines which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems, mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions, fever, and tiredness. with cabenuva, you re good to go. ask your doctor about switching. why would i use kayak to compare with cabenuva, you re good to go. hundreds of travel sites at once? 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i remember feeling like, whatever is in here that is heavy is what i will have to use you know? if it comes to that. andrea, when you look at this as a complete scenario, right, from start to finish, you now have president trump out here talking about giving basically solace to those insurrectionists by pardoning them and making the case that the january 6th committee members should be indicted. when you look at what you guys captured, juxtaposed against that background, what is your reaction? what should we know that donald trump clearly doesn t know about what happened that day? thank you. what i want, i want people to know what we now know. i think that we had the luxury of being able to spend over a year plus with our team looking and scouring the footage, finding the right people, finding six people who just went to work that day to tell the story and that what we stitched together from beginning of day to the end was one of the most violent, heartbreaking, gut punching days in american history. people think they know january 6th but they don t. they don t know the scale of the violence. everyone that was in the capitol that day thought they were going to die. there was the sense of 10,000 plus people surrounding this building and breaking in. it is criminal. it was violent. i think people just saw this in pieces. they don t quite understand the mass in the scale and the threat. we are so lucky more people did not die at the end of that day. we are eternally grateful to the people that did their job that day and the next day, who served in the legislature, congress, journalism and law enforcement. we should be thankful of the fact law enforcement is being booed at and hissed, they actually did their job and protecting the lives of the lawmakers that are now turning their back on what happened that day is despicable. you know? there is a code and ethic to every single person that we profile in this film about how they do their job and thank goodness they did. the outcome could have been so much worse if they hadn t. to that point about law enforcement, here is the photographer talking about the picture he took. if they wanted to kill him, they would have killed him. the man pleaded for his life. he told people he had kids. it is kind of crazy. if i had to put a dollar on it, i would say everybody was like, blue lives matter, blue lives matter. [ bleep ] didn t matter that day. i felt for him. i have a son. i thought about what it would feel like for him if some weak happened to me, you know? this is a another human being. part of what i appreciated is that you centered the voices of those who were impacted on that day but their reflections about the crowd and who showed up and the inconsistencies around their theories of justice, sean, are laid bare. yeah. we, i think it was important for us to give a voice to the people that went through that day and what they went through and personalize it. i think it is really important. i think, with the crowd there, we also did something i think was important. we listened in our area found. you hear things in our film you don t here in our own soundbites and it talks about, he is talking about being right next to this man pleading for his life, pleading because he has kids. you also hear how he is capturing all the different things the crowd is saying, the crowd is saying, take their guns. the crowd is saying, you are going to die tonight with such conviction you can hear it in their voice that you believe it. i think people need to take this all in as a beginning of the day to the end of the day through the personal experiences of the six people that we follow and kind of decide what you think about the people that were in the crowd that day, what their intentions were and what could have happened. what could have happened, i mean, there is a part in the film where former metropolitan police chief conti talks about a phone call that he had, he was part of that with mayor bowser and literally pleading for help from the national guard. the dee was deployed to the capitol to do something to help. the capitol police call for help, the national guard, this call was just, we will play a clip because it is so hard to believe. you wonder what trump would do if he were in office again, we know what he did on january 6th. take a listen. we had a phone call that was can be by myself, the mayor, the district of columbia d.c. national guard, the u. s. capitol police chief where he essentially was pleading for assistance from the national guard. in response to that, whoever on the other side from the representatives from the defense department, the discussion then switched to talking about optics and boots on the ground and what that would look like, which, you know, in a crisis situation, i don t care what it looks like. it looks like help to me. it took hours until the national guard was approved. donald trump put that video out. when he put that video out, people finally did go home. it just really feels like he knew what he was doing. that is a big part of it for me. when you step back, what the sub story i think you guys captured here is the other stuff that was going on in the face of all of the drama and the tragedy on the hill, the stub story was the white house wasn t doing anything. there was no real effort and i think that cut really embraces that part of it. when you are putting this story line together and you are talking it through, how did you capture that? you said, this is the other side of this. we could show you, you know, donald trump and the roosevelt room sitting there watching television eating a hamburger. you know that is what is going on. you know that was the rest of the story, why the d.c. police were so animated about the lack of response from federal law enforcement at the highest level. yeah, it was a different type of film for us. we had this huge kind of forensic timeline in our office. we were looking at all the different things, all the things playing out that day and when we stepped back and we said, where is the national guard? we know that, we know what happened. i know what happens, i see the national guard, they are always around. they do what they are supposed to do. we were just scratching our heads. why are we talking about this? it was actually andrea that so we needed to do a deep dive in that and then the chief started talking about that and he said, you know, he basically said the national guard is not here and i will do it and do my duty. the capitol is under attack. i will do whatever i can. i will get local law enforcement to come and help. that is what they did. why are not people talking about this? d.c. police for for hours, especially in the tunnel, four or five hours they were underhand to hand combat. police arrest people in under 10 minutes. they are not trained to fight hand to hand combat like that, you know? you could argue that the powers that be that had the authorization to release and deploy the guard to help weren t aware of what was going on. the entire world was watching what was going on. i think that is what is so upsetting. why wait that long? that is what we felt was so important. once we realized how soon they were asked and how many hours, everybody is seeing the horrific violence going down, this all could have been stopped. you are watching it in real time as the violence increases and spins out of control. it took them 15 minutes to get there when they were deployed. 15 minutes. andrea nix fine, sean fine, fine work, good work. the sixth is available to purchase on streaming platforms, please pick it up and view it. it is important. senate republican shootdown the chance to protect access to contraceptive . next hour, the president and ceo is at the table to discuss. be sure to follow are so on social media. are handle everywhere is @theweekendmsnbc. @theweekendmsnbc. it could be the start of a domino effect. new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. you want thicker, stronger, fuller hair? 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secrets of his diaries on daylight. his obsession to actress jody foster. is hinckley really fit to be free. he s a potentially dangerous character. he s proven that. hello. welcome to dateline. he shot a president and shook the country. we re about to unveal a probe of his most private thoughts and feeling and his second act as a free man. here is special contributor troy roberts. hinckley, diary are a dangerous mind. reporter: charming, small town, williamsberg, virginia. people visit from all over the world for a taste of america s colognal history. that man came for something more, a new life. one that would be quiet and normal. he volunteers at a church goes for long walks. reporter: but his journey to get here was a long one, filled with violence, mental illness and confinement. this is a violently insane person, so you need to put him some are where he cannot harm somebody. reporter: no one would guess now, but this senior citizen casually walking around town it is the man that tried to kill a president of the united states over a movie star, john hinckley junior. after being institutionalized for three decades, he is pretty much a free man. it was a rainy spring monday in washington d.c. , a few months after ronald reagan was elect the president. 70 days into reagan s first term. it is a nothing die. he gave a speech at the washington hilton . reporter: a nothing day was about to be a day that no one would ever forget. dale wilber interviewed well over 100 people for his book, raw hide, the secret service code word for reagan. he gives a speech and walking out. it is 2:27 p.m. i was part of the press pool, which is the small group of reporters that follow along in the motor motorcade. he came out the door and waving. he raised his arm to wave to people there. reporter: 15 feet away was a rope line that separated a small crowd of reporters and bystanders from the president. in that crowd, a sandy blonde- haired 25-year-old named john hinckley junior. moments later. it sounded like firecrackers. you knew in an instant it could knot be firecrackers and you knew it was a gun. i saw a jumble of people shov people shoving the into the car. reporter: all three camera crews that were able to capture it all. first shot hits in the head. and the fourth shot hits tom mccarthy and turned and took a shot to the chest without a bulletproof vest. i remember the yelling and the chaos and said, was the president hit? they said, i don t think so. reporter: did you see john hinckley outside of the hotel? i saw the police on top of a man on the ground. a secret service agent with a oozy. so they are hustling him over to this car. reporter: president reagan s son ron was in lincoln, nebraska when he was told about the shooting. he told my wife and i that shots been fired. they didn t think he was hit. we was an announcement from the white house. definitely, the president was not hit. reporter: but inside the presidential limo, a different story was playing out. reagan is increasingly complaining of chest inside. he pulls a napkin out of his right coat pocket and there was blood. reporter: president reagan was shot and his life was in danger. wilber explained how he was wounded. we re watching a slow motion reply. look how close he is. look at the gun. the bullet hits right there and gets through that little gap. reporter: through the tiny gap created by the open door of the bullet proof car hitting the president and incredible fluke. it was hinckley s sixth and final shot. the secret service agents raced him to george washington university hospital, where the doctors found the bullet dangerously close to president reagan s heart. judy, i m sorry to interrupt. reporter: nbc cut into her report with the news. we have two bulletins that president reagan was shot in the chest. reporter: he was rushed into surgery. the fbi was desperately trying to find out what happened. retired fbi agent, thomas baker. was there part of the conspiracy? 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reagan came within a couple minutes of dying. reporter: meanwhile, the man that shot him was in the custody of the washington d.c. the entire homicide detective was the first person to question hinckley. more than 38 years since that day, this was his first national television interview. he looked like a college student. he just didn t seem to fit the profile of what i thought presidential assassin look like. reporter: what was john hinckley s demeanor when you started the interview. he didn t seems like it was a big deal. reporter: he also assured detective that he acted alone. did you ask him that question directly? yes, i did. i asked, are you by yourself. he responded i m with no run. reporter: did he ask any questions about the condition of the president or mr. brady? no, never did. he never seemed concerned. reporter: no remorse? no remorse at all. reporter: desperate for any clue or everyday that could explain the motive for the shooting, he searched his wallet and found photos. what did he say? you ll find out when you read the letter in my room. reporter: at that point, he shut down and refused to say more. he seemed arrogant, almost smug. i said you re going to be charged with attempted assassination of the president of the united states. as i m writing this in my notes, i m having a hard time spelling assassination. he said i ll spell it for you. reporter: soon after, he was turned over to the fbi. by evening, word of hinckley s arrest was public. the man that fired the shots today has been identified as john warnock hinckley of evergreen, colorado. i m thinking that is so weird that the guy that shot the president has the same name as my friend john hinckley. reporter: as kids, evan price, kurt dooley and well will francis grew up with hinckley. they didn t believe the shooter was their john till they heard where he went to school. i know this guy. friendly person. this cannot be happening. reporter: it was hard for all of them to scare the would be assassin for a friend they have known for a decade. he s handsome, happy, and look greats. reporter: they met in the 1960s and bonded over sports and music. he was a well-liked guy. we would go to record shops, stores, places to go to have burger. reporter: his father was the owner of a oil and gas business. they said that his family seemed perfect, straight out of a tv classic, leave to beaver. it was a great family. she was just june clear of. and his dad was more like ward. reporter: so what changed for the kid that grew up with everything? back in washington, the fbi was wondering the same thing. that night, agents were at the park central hotel where hinckley had been staying. we executed a search warrant of his hotel room. thomas baker was the agent in charge. we found the later, the statement of why he was doing this. reporter: the letter revealed that hinckley did not try to kill the president for political reasons. he did it because of attacker and twisted obsession with a woman. hinckley s bombshell motive thrusts a young hollywood actress into the the spotlight and those close to the president are left reeling. raw pain for the reagan family. and hinckley s fixation on actress jody foster. the letters were assumed to be love type letters. what dateline continues. tell me why. have you tried downey rinse and refresh. down i didn t rinse and refresh. down any will get your heart racing and prices that you know every day. the designer sales up to 70% off. shop gilt.com today. two scoops of ice cream and two thumbs up. get two months of service free. all with fast, reliable nationwide coverage. make the switch today. did you know taking at night relieves while you sleep for a more productive sleep. and get 24-hour relief. i m here to tell you about ab all new special offer from my friends at jacuzzi bathroom remodel that you don t want to miss. they have been making water feel great for 25 years. we re waiving all installation cost. they have a design that you ll love at a price that you can afford. best of all, they can install in as little as one day with no stress and no mess p are you ready to see your new shower? 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either politically motive or he s just racy. reporter: they learned that his motives were not at all by political. he was fueled by an obsession by an actress, jody foster. dear jody. i will be killed in my attempt to get reagan. it is for this reason that i m writing you this letter now. retired fbi agent phenomenon baker. he wanted to impress her and win her heart. i have to do something that i m doing all of this for your sake. reporter: the fbi needed to talk to foster. when the agents arrived at yale university, where she was a student, the actress was visibly upset. she said that hinckley started arriving her soon after she arrived on campus the previous fall and had not stopped. was he threatening? what was he like? i m not allowed to say. letters were assumed to have been love type letters. have you ever seen hinckley, that you know of? no, not to my knowledge, i have never met him. reporter: he was attending a yale writer s program. that was a lie. he was not there. he was there living in a hotel and stalking jody foster. reporter: this note was left for her just weeks before the shooting. jodie, good-bye, i love you 6 trillion times. you must admit, i am different. it would make all of this worthwhile. reporter: when did the obsession of jodie foster s obsession began? 1976. he saw the movie taxi driver. she plays like a prostitute in the movie. and he became obsessed with her. he identified with bickle. he thought he was going to asass nature and die in the guns like bickle did. reporter: but hinckley considered other options first, like hijacking a plane and even killing the woman that he claimed to love. his plan was to kill jodie foster, shoot him, her or shoot himself in front of her. return they thought this could be the basis of an insanity defense. and they hired dr. carpenter. carpenter met with hinckley for months and charted his unraveling. what was his relationship like with his parents? it wasn t anything like childhood neglect or trauma. reporter: but hinckley started to with withdrawl from high school. and they the parent took him to a therapist. at one point, they cut him off. reporter: it backfired. they re kind of dark and anticipatory things in it is compatable with a lonely life. if i wish, the president will fall and the world will look at me in disbelief. reporter: by the end of his evaluation, carpenter concluded that hinckley was legally insane. his official diagnosis? 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i m immortally i am infamous, but i m dead inside. he tried to take his own life. but he seemed to have a moment of clarity of the shooting. there are times that i m sad about the incident. but other times i m satisfied. reporter: he was almost giddie. it will be a miracle, almost a miracle if i m found not guilty. reporter: the damage that hinckley caused it was on people s mind. he could have changed the course of history. yes. this foolish, young man could have changed the course of history. reporter: secret service sergeant mccarthy and president reagan. officer deli that was forced to retire early. but it was brady, where he had severe brain damage and paralysis. nbc news legal analyst. at the time of the hinckley trial, the prosecution had the burden to prove each and every element of the crime, including the defendant s sanity. reporter: the prosecution began by showing jurors footage of the shooting. they argued that he was not sick when he pulled the trigger, just a narcissistic. he told me his goal to be on the cover of time magazine. reporter: the obsession, the prosecutors said it did not prove he was insane. he was interested in committing a crime and fell aupon taxi driver. reporter: hinckley thought that the trial was the perfect stage for his story. jodie, everyone in the whole wide world knows about us. i think what i did was worth it. in the courtroom, the prosecutors argued that hinckley knew exactly what he was doing what he shot the president, that it was a premeditated plan months in the making, and originally with a different target. he actually had been talking the previous president, jimmy carter. reporter: in the fall of 1980, he bought guns and went target shooting and followed carter on the campaign trail. we recovered news footage of carter at different rallies in the fall. reporter: john hinckley had plans to kill president jimmy carter? yes. it just never worked out for him. so he switched his attention to president reagan after he became president. reporter: when it was the defense s turn. they said that his judgment was impaired by schizophrenia elusions. the only meaningful thing in his life was his delusional attachment to jodie foster. he developed the grandiose view of jodie and hims a couple. he felt this is something that everybody should know about, killing carter, killing reagan. he needed something that would cause attention to this. reporter: and his attempts to contact foster was to show them that they were meant to be. he reported a phone call between himself and the actress. i cannot carry on conversations with people that i don t know. reporter: jodie did not appear at trial but she was video week earlier. how would you describe your relationship with john hinckley? i don t have any relationship with john hinckley. her words infuriated him. in his diary that note, he threw a pen at her and shouted, jodie i m still going to kill you. oh, my god, what have i done? 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yes. i didn t for a moment it could be the otherwise. by the fourth day, the verdict was in. the verdict on john hinckley, not guilty by reason of insanity turned the country upside down today turned the upside down today. to say that america was shocked by the verdict is an understatement. they were furious. not everyone was up in arms. surprisingly president reagan had found peace with hinckley. my father had forgiven him, a day or so after being shot, he had forgive convenient forgiven him. my mother, on the other hand, she would have killed him if she could have got her hand on him. he entered the final entry in his dairy. it is all over. i m not responsible for shooting the president and three others. what does jodie think now. you re going to a treatment facility. and only when you re better will you be released. hinckley was sent to saint elizabeth hospital in washington d.c. , one of the oldest psychiatrist hospitals in the country. he was put on anti-psychotic drugs. it seemed to trust. john and leslie metro at a halloween party. reporter: she was a fellow patient at st. elizabeth. she wrote about hero man tick relationship with hinckley. leslie was described by neighbors and family, friend and even her ex-husband as a perfect woman and mother and she killed her child. reporter: she was convicted for her crime and sent to the contradict hospital. today the old grounds closed. the buildings abandoned. what was it like when you came here the first time? you know, it was different from it is now. but leslie and john used to communicate from a window, not this building, but a similar one, three floors up where he was. reporter: she was more than a decade holder than hinckley and like him came from an upper background and educated. when she told him who he was, he did not care. she said i did so much worse than he did. i killed my own child. she took her gun and shot her child and then herself. her injuries wore so severe, she amputated her arm. she never understood people s shock for her love with hinckley. people ask why would he have a relationship with him. why would he have a relationship with me? he talked at chaperone events orbit window. by the following year, hinckley was in love and did something that no one ever expected. he proposed. and she accepted. walsh said they became each other s confidants. hinckley trusted her with his darkest moments. he said that he went through the terrible percents of shame and guilt, particularly when he would see brady, the press secretary that he shot. reporter: after three years of treatment, devoluntary was released. but got a job at the hospital, so hinckley still saw her regularly. the staff at the mental hospital condoned this relationship, even supported it? yes, they did because they saw it as a healthy growth. reporter: but they learned that he was in an astonishing relationship with someone else, ted bundy who was on death row. dear john, i think we have something going on here. it is pleasure to find someone i feel comfortable writing. reporter: the secret service discovered that hinckley started the corresponds. dear ted, i read about your new death order and it upsets me because i m against the death penalty and i value you as a friend. reporter: the doctors became more concerned that hinckley was still obsessed with jodie foster and had some 20 photos of her in a room. he considered writing to convicted killer charles manson. despite the letters, after four years, the hospital trusted hinckley enough to let him leave his building and rome the grounds freely. he devoluntary was still engaged and could walk outside together and have privacy. they went up to a little spot on the hill. they did not have sex the first time there, but after that, they did. on the ground. on the ground. a few years later, he went to court to make a bid for more freedom. but would a judge allow a man that stalked two presidents and tried to kill one of them back into society? he should not be able allow to rome around all alone out there. he s a potentially dangerous character. he s proven that. the eye popping gated community where he proposed to live. he played on the tee where former president obama and former president clinton and this fellow is only 50 feet away. when dateline continues. why do we even buy them. i ve had multiple strokes. if you need help remembering something, write it down quickly. no wonder you hate cleaning your gutters. the pattened filter keeps the leaves out of your gutters, guaranteed. they took the time to answer all of our questions. they put us at ease. unclog gutters for good. visit leaffilter.com today. shingles some describe it as a unbearable itch. it could disrupt your work and time with family. debail indicatingdebilitating shingles. good time that you get a break with your flexible payment options. this is the dmvip. vending machine charcuterie. wait till the driving shipping generic viagra for 87 cents. in 1997, john hinckley junior was back in court, this time fighting for a bit of freedom. he spent 15 years at a psychiatric hospital and believed he was a changed man. his parents believed it too. john s demeanor has changed. he s more open, loving person. to them, hinckley was no criminal. he was being treated for mental illness and deserved compassion. he was not a snipper on a rooftop or religious fanatic. he was a pathetic figure that he was trying to impress a movie star that he never met. he wanted permission to visit his family off the hospital ground. hinckley doctors said that his psychosis and depression were in remission and had been for years. i think they observed that he was less preoccupied with the psychotic delusions. reporter: but federal prosecution did not buy it. they believe he was a threat to society. would he go over to her office and chat and talk. and then he started bugging her. he would come every day or call. reporter: the judge denied his request and he lost my chance of leaving the hospital grounds for a long time. but by 2003, he stayed out of trouble for years. his doctors felt he was ready to inch back into society. they began gradually one day out in the city. by 2006, the treatment team had been recommended that he be allowed to stay with his parents for days at a time and the court agreed. the goal of a hospital is to rehabilitate, right? they have no justification to hold him. reporter: but not everyone happy about hinckley s increasing freedom. the home that he retired to was in an upscale community in williamsburg, virginia, overlooking the 14th hole of the kings golf course. that concerned the secret service. in the past few years that played on that tee, president obama, former president clinton. these are the people that played golf in williamsburg, and this fellow is only 50 feet away. reporter: despite the federal prosecute s protest, the judge followed saint elizabeth s recommendation and granted hinckley more and more time with his parents, time that no longer included his fiancee leslie devoe. after 22 years, the relationship was over. do you know why the relationship over? being identified public as his girlfriend was hard for her. the secret service was always coming to her door. it became too much. reporter: hinckley s focus was now solely on being permanently released from saint elizabeth s. in 2016, a judge granted his request. the man that attempted to assassinate president ronald reagan is now free from a mental hospital. hinckley s father had died. so he would live for his 90- year-old mother for at least for a year. not all of hinckley s new neighbors were convinced that was a good idea. bring him here and put him under the care of his 90-year- old mother seems to be a pretty foolish decision. we know medicine is not an exact science. few things are. so i just hope they re right. i m a layperson. i m not a psychologist or psychiatrist. but it doesn t seem to me that people with these kind of severe mental problems are ever really, truly cured. reporter: still, hinckley was not completely free. the secret service would keep an eye on him. and there was a long list of court mandate the rules that he had to follow. among them therapy, medication, limited travel. no media interviews or contact with his victims relatives or jodie foster. but ron reagan was still concerned. my worry is that his narcissistic personality or the will be affronted and he will not get the attention that he feel he s owed and he will act out again in some violent way. reporter: there is greater awareness and empathy in those that suffer from mental illness. but insanity laws are much stricter. states were in a rush to change to insanity defenses. some states instituted guilty, but mentally ill. reporter: in federal course. the burden of proof has shifted to the defense team that must prove that the defendant is insane. if hinckley were tried under the new law, many believe, he would be convicted. do you know what he s doing with himself? he volunteers at a church. he goes on walks. he established a bunch of friends over time. reporter: he got a job of sorts buying and selling and antiques at a low mall. and it appears found romance again. i trust the doctors and the people that have been treating him. i trust their decision. reporter: hinckley childhood friends believe he has earned a second chance and wish him well. i don t expect we ll see him at our high school reunion, i d welcome him. reporter: but president reagan s son believes that the man that tried to assassinate a president, even insane, should not be go free. the crime that he committed was not just a crime another person. it was a crime against a state. the penalty has to be drastic and permanent. reporter: and in 2020, the court relaxed the conditions of hinckley s release, even further. among his new freedoms, he was able to publicly display his artwork and his name. he seemed content. during one of his mental health evaluations, he told doctors, this is the happiest i ve been in my life. i m happy as a clam, to be honest. i really am. be honest. i really am. jr. who four decades after shooting an american president appeared at peace with his past. that s all for this edition of dateline. # thank you for watching. . good morning. and welcome to the saturday edition of morning
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new york. but first, they can t stop him. that s the focus of tonight s angle. five months from election inues toshe list of democrat failures continues to grow by the day. now it s friday, so let sonds have fun and quickly categorize them in chronological order. der.first, the biden team and tr press homies thought they could use jan six to intimidate trump supporters and scare away all the independents. history is watching, just like history watched three years ago on january 6th when insurrection storm. this stormed very capital and pe a dagger to the throat of american democracy. dagger the threat of a total flop. trump left office. january 20th if he didn t remember, and an insurrectio if the u.s. government without weapons. is that what? oh, okay. democrawell, then, of course, democrats using january 6, peacm thought a second impeachment trial would do him in. enulbut few paid much attention, according to the reuters ipsos poll. fewefewer onr than one in five d they watched multiple hours jus of testimony and most 55% have seen just clips or no excerpts at all. woops. then there wer te the efforts to remove trump from the ballot. well, we knothatw where that all ended up overturned by the supremes. n s greagreat defenders of demoy were goose egg nine zerowerful. and trump. he only grew more powerful . f of course.me they also ended up unleashingntn a barrage of indictments and civil suits lawfare, spending tens of millions of dollars t in taxpayer money on cases in georgia, d.c., a new york that they thought would help biden because trump would be seen as a bad guy a crook and that he d just end up bleeding suppor he ist he is facing multiple charges, multiplments,e. and they still expect to get at least another indictment, possibly two every time there are more charges. every time there is anothero up indictment. his poll numbers actually go up, as does his fundraiser as d but while jack forney and alvin and the rest of woe bideann apparat chipmunks were doing their dirty work, inflatioion stayn too high. and as americans struggled to pay for gast basi food and jt basic necessities, they saw waveeas of stream across our southern border, wrecking , eatities, eating our resources and committing crimes. when yon you receive immigra, you have to check them. you have to know who arehow ar the how you re going to receive people that you don t know who. thenar you don t have an ideoloy and you don t have any idea if they were in prison. had the white house didn t care, though. they had no democrat votervoter but the polls kept slidingth foy biden. but they really thought they really thought a guilty verdict in that hush money cas e would do the trick. he believes that they will.pn a one year ter.m in prison. s be and that is because whencaspend you spend a year prison in new york or under you serve in rikers island, he absolutely deserves jail time because co is an ongoing threat to society and, to ouril community, to dope. one problem biden s polls are still terrible and trump mor. strong and the more desperate the democrats are, it turns out, the dumber their ideas are getting. now, someone probably in th e biden campaign believed that if they could get the press on board, americans would watch list to joe biden and normandy and think, wowan he s really reaganesque. and today d todas unintentionaly hilarious headline is from political playbook. biden storms the beach for democracy, but biden storms. re well, sort of, because with him, it s the forecast is mory toe to be mostly cloudyo with a chance of afternoon confusion by sending biden to normandy. the only thingced convinced americans of was that he should preft home watching jeopardy with a warm blanket across his lap, preferably a plaid one. now, the bottom line is none of their attacks and none of their attempted biden pivots rebranding. i mean, none of it has worked. the poll ne of its are simply mind blowing. and arizona and nevada. trump is uy p by five. but most shocking of all is virginia, a state that biden won by ten points, which is now, tied 48 to 48. come on, virginia, save telli yourself the once credible democrat party. ngyi m you. creted they deserve everything they re getting here. remember, they ceded their influence to the far left. they cater to theme on issues, the trans push and all that. and on the border. and now they re all sinking. and how to think that aum campaign to destroy trump would somehop woulw make bad policies that produce bad results. populapular?r before he died.ima radio legend and mugy friend rut limbaugh predicted much of this. i knop gonew they desperatela trump gone, and i know that they desperatelnt iy it, ma codified that trump cannot runke agai mistan because make no mis they remain scared to death of you trump and. they remain scared to death of trump no matter what they ve thd. tried they can t separate you from trump, and more importantly, they can t separate you from sep the ideas. they can t separate you from gre maga. they can t separate you from makeat america great again.noug, god, we miss them. and sure enough, trump is crushing fundraising goals, raking in nearly $300 million in may from over 2 million liber donations. and there are even signs of life in liberalal l lala lan. silicon valley investor david saks hosted a fundraiser r here last night in san francisco. ani and gavinlos newsom s home. that s progress. and that s.joinin the angle.ntur joining me now is david sacks, kraft ventures co-founder, co-hoser co-t of the all in podcast. david, now prett it s pretty in-your-face to host trump in one of the bluest cities in the united states. and this was scene outside of the fundraiser, only a smattering of anti-trump protestersg ofi-trump. so what was the turnout like inside? azing, the turnout was amazing, laura. you know, we. originally triedd up to raise $5 million for president trump and we ended up raising 12 million. e hae a hundred. lik people there. every seat was taken. we literally couldn t fit one more person in the house completely sold out. and by the way, those protesters who were outsid.eoplw those were actually pro-trump demonstrators. there were hundreds of peoplhode who turned out along the motorcade for trump to basicallallyy wave signs in favr of him. the number of people who actually wer oe protesting against trump there was maybe, you know, a couple of dozends o versus hundreds of people who are pro-trump. so even out on the streets was a tremendous enthusiasm gap. and if that s what s happening in liberaltrasm gap. san franci, what does that tell you about what s happening throughout the country? now, what is silicorossn valw and a couple of these guys i know we re from silicon valley. what do they hope for e for their support? honestly, it s not that transactional or, there is, it s not like there sj some sort of overt quid pro quo. most of these people just reallyreally they wa love amerit they want to see america doing better. now, in termryuts of whatden ad the industry cares about, the industry wants to be able to innovate and bidenit s b administration has been very hostile towards innovation that s beeeeextremelhostiln exte towards the crypto industry. it s already trying to overregulate ai. it s basically put the kibosh on any m&a. and so i do think that thee industry would like to haveashig more pro-innovation policies coming out of washingtontothis e and that does lead to support for president trump. but again, it s not anything transactional. it reallgy is about having a better administration in washington. now, what message does i what happened last night? i know he was alsow he in l.a.,- a west coast swing. but what is message is thisvy have is it sending to other heavy hitters and you and i know them who are maybe nikki haley fans or otheley fansr thet really uncomfortable with trump. does this brinm moreg them overi make them more likely to support him? i thins tk so.wh i think this is going to melt the ice. i mean, look, i know there s alreadpporterse out therehe who are already trump supporters and they re just afraid to stick their their neck s out. i mean, that s the reality of the situation because they re afraid of getting are afraid of cancel culture. they re afraid of of punishment . and they re afraid becauseid the biden administrationf puni l political prosecutions and political investigations. sove t people have reasons to bu nervous about expressing their support for trump. but with each incremental person who sticks their neck re it, makesink,akes the rest of them feel more comfortable doing it. and you re seein a g think a cascade starting to happen now where more and more people are goingoing tog come out for . and to that point, david, i ve been urging them not ral to just fundraise in california, but to do a rall iy in california. t i would think the central out valleyside would get a little outside, you know, san francisco or imperialalley. valley, get into an area wherek are more working class people. i think people need heartradt this message beyond justioink ev the traditionaenl states and i think even if it you know, even if you can t win california cal yet, i think it helps the entire party apparatus to see himthere. ther. yeah, absolutely. i mean, trump has immense supporgt, blue collar workers, middle class workers throughout californiathroughoe whol. he does throughout the whole country. and there is absolutely a receptive audience for trump.a trump we saw that even in san francisco. again, the enthusiasm for trump wa. itves it was really a loved fest. we were sold outth and the protesters couldn t really amount to anything, though the liberal publications had been sort of egging themg to come out all week o and nothing materialized. so there s a tremendoufs amount of enthusiasm for trump in california. well, what are they cheerin g at this point? more decline in san francisco. i mean, it makes no sensy eks that he s your only hope at this point. david. great to see you tonight f. m in thanks for coming on. take trump off the ballot. put him in jail now. just forget actual reporting. we need slanted coverage.nc should more slanted coverageh.. and i think we got to recognizet the threat that this guy in the maga, not just him, the entire maga movement from oneto and trump on down is a serious it s a clear seriousconsti and present danger to the existence of the constitutioed n. our state. and i mean democrats don t even believe in the constitution. trythe nejames nice try, thoug. and the new york congressional candidate is insisting on mega deprogramming project. even if we were to have liresounding blue wave come through, as many of us would like putting it all back together again after we ve gone this maga nightmare and basically would you that sounds like a rather a reeducation camp. ri think we really want to call it that. i m sure we can find another wa y to phrase it. this is why these have people love china. we already have reeducation camps are called the public schools. joining mejoining vivek now, vivek ramaswamy, former gop presidential candidate vivekviv that really does say it all slanted and reeducation camps. that s it. l this is orwellian. but the best part of this, laura, is theythey don guessin . guessing, i guess they gave as to what they re actually doing. contromedianl media, control. te every other institution, reeducate the masses . and then she catches her mistake and says that that s not exactly what we want to call ieian movet, whiche orwellian move at the end of this. but the good news is the american people are seeingg thr, through this, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shamamericane me.stemat ic americans understand that they have been lied to systematicall then y on the e of the last election, from everything about the origin of covid 19. during that to the one hunter biden laptop story suppressedg the eve of the 2020 election, people are seeing through the lies they ve been toldth . i don t think those tricks are going to quite work the same way this time arouns g which is good news for us. and i mentioned the attempt to make biden reaganesque in normandy, whichn as someone who worked in the reagan administration, i just scream laughingi sc laughin when i heae but biden spent the dayspent grovelinthg to zelenskyy and basically throwing americans who are hesitantin about spending another hundred billion dollars. they re under the bus. this i. ttch. i apologize for the first weeks of not knowing what s going as a funding. and because we had trouble getting the bill that we had to pas ms, had the money in itve from some of our very conservative members m wer who holding up the fake. he acts likmoe monee our mont and the money they print and borrow belongs to.owin zelenskyy that s right. i mean, he s bowing to aif h new kind of idol, and if he wants to imitate reagan, look, peace through strength, different from peace through frailty and weakness, which is what biden s actually exhibitinfrailtied wetr the reality is that we have been forking over more moneye moneaine t to ukrait actually have, even accounting for how it s been spent in the s first place. so i think the apology, with all due respect, laura, need s to be running in the other direction, to say that we apologize for not being able to teloul you how your first hundred billion dollars was spent. and instead we have the us presidentsis is th on, his k. this is the problem with the american culture. boder the leadership of bide and the democrats is that we re taught to apologize for who we are. bothn th at home and on the glo stage to flog ourselves forothe actually helpingies we other countries. we re helping enough of that. we are done with this cultur oev of apologies, and i think weiv need to revive that sense of americafn exceptionalism that the actual ronald reagan stood for and that i think donald trump stands for unapologetically today. and you know t a lot what, a lot of people are hungry for it. we re done apologizing for our identity , for engagings sl in this self-loathing. i think that phase and that clou pashed slowly passing acros the country. laura and americans are hungr actually hungry for being proud of who we are again. that camp.be in well, i think that when you listen really carefully to biden and unfortunately, we all had to listen to him ov is sure soundsrussia like they re getting ready for war with russi sounda. t it sounds like it s the, you know, rallying everyone not to defenainet tod, but to go onn offensive push inside russia to defeat putin. and regimi guess, do regime che and if that s what they re planning, they better tell the voters now before election day. but it certainly sounds like this is wherwh headed.e they re. well, victoria nuland may not be in the building anymore,d but that s still the same spirit that pervades the current state departmentthit and beyond. and this is part of the reason, laura, why you have never heard articulate articuthisd what exactly is a goal of this war in the first place. there as not been a war goaln a that s been articulated in part becas the whoe stri are pulling the strings to count for regime change as the ultimate goalngs accore that they re playing for. you ve got to be careful what you wish for if you re actually going to root for regime change in russia, you think what succeeds putin is going to be betteime.ter thae what you have right now. we ve played this game before. it does not en well.d. this road does not end in aa res place that advances american interestson. g and i think a reasonable deal to bring this to resolution is the w right way to go. and sadly, when i said that a year ago, people thought th controversial. unfortunately, the facts have vindicated that view. in the meantime me.e, we have no clear answer of what the next hundred billion dollars is going to do. and laurai think you re right, laura, smoking out a 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people in may than numbe economists had expected. these are incredible numbers. rs problem , yoone problem here, ys the skirt a bit on the reportth and you see some disturbing trends. the job growth, the 272,000ther that the new york times and others are crowing about today comes with a higher unemployment rate. it went up t to 4%, fewer full time workers and more holdingp i multiple jobs because they just have to. now, let sg digging deeper. the number of foreign born workers, illegals jumped 414,000 while native borne bo workers dropped 663,000. on cue, though, politicoo tried help the biden team deflect that story. someone named amarme moosa frome the biden reelection squad called the foreign versus native born jobs comparison racist nativist attacks. now, how weak is that? a tight labor market, one that s not saturated by illegals is actually the best thing for minorities and others, because thens be was are not suppressed. and this graph captures how americans are literally being replaced in the job. but look, why is anyone surprised the biden regime doesn why ist in americans firs, they ve proven that becaus fe all citizens of the world and they will always and i mean salways immigrants, legal or, ea illegal, first. joining me now, sean duffy, co-hosyt, the bottom line on fox business, and ben domenech, editor at large of the spectator. both are fox news contributors. now, sean, i. they keep going back and take another bite at thtake anoeo su biden-nomics apple thinking that it will translate intok? support, i guess, among independent voters. is thi have s going to work soos they have to be shocked that the american voter still is concerned about economyere so as the number one issue and inflation as the number one issue. if these numbers were so good.es but to your point, laura, these are these are part time jobs that are being created that are going to foreign born, legal or illegal workerkers. as. the american workers are losing jobs. and in the household surved thi. mentioned this as well, there s been a loss of 408,000 jobs.re so there are less jobs out there. workinbut more people working two jobs, which is why. and in virgini,a, the race is tied at 48 to 48 betweenrump donald trump and, joe biden and why donald trump is winning or improving his numberscause th with hispanics, blackses and young young americans underj the age of 30, because these are the issues they care about. ans ane not getting the jobsob and they can t buy homes because of joe biden s stupid spending and hig h rates and inflation. and now ben biden s chiefy to economic adviser was on fox today touting the of this labor market. as we we have one of the most persistently strong labors markets this country has ever seen. not only i ls labor marketrg amntinually offering up large numbers of good jobs for working americans, we re alslso wages beat prices. ben wages are beating a prices. i don t know a singl sine who fs that way tonight. do you? me i can t. i can t believe. you want me to respondbern to someone as stupid as jared bernsteistruel to n? i thi you re cruel to me, lara. i m sorry, but loonke shouldk, the things that i think we should actually appreciate about this is thatthat some of the thing that we should understand is that a lot of this is happeningifk by. if you look back at may of last year to today, you have 2.8 million, 2.6 million, something somewhere in that range. created 1.1 million of thosetho jobs are in health services,u social services. you know, anotheknowr 400 pluse thousand to 600,000 of them are government jobs. so what does that mean? it means that they re directlyie ,indirectly funded by the taxpayer, essentially because, o joe biden doesn t know how to create a thriving economn doesnl in which people can get good jobs. good job your moneymaking to hire a bunch of people, making them both dependent on taxpayer funds and equivalently dependenton th. the democratic party, which is going to flow all of keep to, their jobs, keep them employed, etc.. and that s something that is happening by design. they want to dramatically increase the number of peoplasee who are dependent on taxpayer funding for their jobs . and that s not and that s not by accident. that is intentional. rchan this is all been intentional. sean judge merchan from trump fs new york hush money trial sentro a letter to both prosecution and the defense notifying them about a comment that leftfacebo on the new york state unified court systems facebook page app that is from the day before the trump verdict. and it said, my cousin is aonvi juror and says trump is gettince convicted. thank you, folks, for all your hard work. now, sean, we have noten confirmed right who left that commenant, but any thoughts? but this story continues to be this this the verdict. everything is strange with the former president. but, yeah, there s got to bent b investigation, not just probably by the judge, but also by the donald trump teamhe eam.. s some find out was this just some rando who didn t know anybody that posted on the sitoe ? was this actually a cousin of a juror? juror.t, if any,t information flowed to that juror and what impact does this have on their verdics thatt. sn that only time will tell. but again, strange, stranggeeh e case. as can i make one last point? i disagree with ben on the last questionquestion t. by design, they think they can be the old soviet union. soen they want government jobs, government led economies, but they thinktheys goin that sg to work and drive the private sector. we know wherever i that tried, it s called socialism or communism. it always fails. so aeconom they re trying to juo economy not by free enterprise, it a state run economies.bu and it never works. so i personally agret noe with , ben, but not fully. well, we ll see if they trye to play around with the interest rates. is the last gasp her ande right. sean and ben, thank you. all right. coming up, how democrats just gave a slap 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listen. get the latest news and news headlines on sirius xm anytime anywhere. fox news radio on sirius xm america is listening. news is hunter biden about to take the stand in his trial? davifox news justice correspondent david span is here with all the details. david. laura, abbe lowell hunter, o makebiden s attorney, has a ba decision to make whether or not to put the president s son one g the stand. he said today in court that he was done presenting witnesses. wid the judge the only witness that he would present potentially would be hunte mr biden. on monday, he said he ll make his decision this weekend. n emotmeanwhile, an emotionally charged day in court with the eldesttaking t daughter of huntr biden taking the stand. her name is naomshe is ai biden. she s an attorney as well. she took the stand in defense of heru ser father. you see her leaving with the black blazer and the sunglassesh on. as i said, she s hunter s oldest daughter. diedr his sistero who died as an infant in thatg car crash in delaware in 1972, along with hunter s mother, neilia. now, naomi hunter s daughter painted a picture of a clear minded, hopeful hunter biden when she saw him in late summer 2018. laura, this was weeks before he allegedly b on a federal gunnaomi form in october 2018. naomn wai she was uncomfortableo on the stand. she answered in a soft voice. shus.e said was nervous and she said she was well aware her dad was addicted to drug, s, said, quote, things got bad after my uncle died, end quote. tecalledshe recalled talking abu biden, the late beau biden. dad k ealls trying to se her dad in new york in october 2018, but did see him laterll that month and said that he seemed good. now, the first lady,was the to r was there today. she was there monday, tuesday, wednesdangy on yesterday. she was attending d-day eventsyk in france only to fly back to wilmington to sit in court today. she s turning back around to go back to france for a state dinner with he r husband and thelmingt french president and his wife tomorrow. then she s cominonnday.g to wiln on sunday. quite a schedule there. now, abbw, abbe foce focused hr on this gun form. that s hunte gun form that huntr biden filled out. you see his name. he argued that different itemsts were put on the formt or at different times, including hunter s signature was notigin originally on there. hunter had to sign it later. bottom line, hunter biden testifies we could see a day, but he s really openingcs himself up with cross-examination. if he does nots-ation. testify, will likely move right into closing arguments. jury instructionjurytructions, y could get this case and render a verdict by monday afternoo atn at the earliest. laura. wow. david, thank you so much. all right. they deny it, but democrats really d s reallyo despise lawor enforcement. and this next segment is oneesd more confirmation of that. thousands gathered on wednesday to mourn the loss of connecticut state trooper kiron pelletiekentuckyr, who wad in a hit and run duringll a traffic stop just last weea t to honor his memory, a town council member in,blue lin wethersfield, connecticut, suggested flying the thin blue line flag., but democrat members refused, citing concerns of racism.dia, w ik i quickly went on to the wikipedia. wikipedia s indicating the thin blue line symbol to be used by thelives ma lives matter movt since 2014. it says here it s become emblematic of white nationalist, neo-nazi and all right movementd neo-hites in.atd the united states, particularly just displayed by attendee tsf h of the unite the right rally in 2017 and the january 6 storming of the capitol. e well, what they did instead watowns order flags outside town hall to be flown at half mast. thnow the american flag and thew pride flag. joining me now is briana kimbrough, one of the republicans on the town counci ted inl voted in favorn blue of flying the thin blue line flag. councilwoman, aside from fac the fact that your colleague that on wikipedia for all of his historical knowledge, what does this tell connecticut voters, frankly, voters everywhere about what democrats reallysreally t of the police?e, well, i i honestly, it shows that more and more republicanssi are representing views of the majority. and sometimes takes situations like this to bring that out. i flabbergasted, you know, not sitting on the council. we did notate it it to go in ths direction at all. and honestly, what was cited was extreme, in my opinion. so it was very unfortunate, especially in a time when the entireas state was mourning the loss of trooper first class aaron pelletier. well, i grew up in glastonbury. my aunt in wethersfield, so. i know the area very well. and connecticut t iss always kid of a quirky political state, t it was always very pro police, first responders, you know , honorings their service. and this democrat party has gotten s o bollixed up and floyd riots all that so that they wikipedia says, wow, that s long since, what, 2017 is honoring the fallen officers ,those who are injured.e and that s a threat. but the pride flag gets to befl flowow n half mast. i mean, i m sure a lot of people don t want that flown at half mast, right? no, absolutely. and i think that know not only the wikipedia reference, but the comments were doubled down in news interviews and ate the pride ceremony saying that it was out of respect, that it was at half mast forl the fallen officer. so, againy , i will say, though, that the outpouring from wethersfield and from the statsee has been largely in favor of the thin blue line flag. i did want to make a note of that because that has been incredibly encouraging to see. and what i say, brianna, is that connecticut needs to vote to save itself, save its manufacturing, save its economy, save its safety. and one of the council members, mickey derek ,ba said unfortunately, our town has far too many people with bad intentions. of tsome of them are willing e the death of a state trooper just to gain some politicaine p. points apparently at attacking you. yha doingt what you re doinge or you re trying to make political pointsn,? ain, all yeah, i mean, absolutely not. again, all republican, all tn a the councilors who brought this have law enforcement familiemy my father in law served for over 30 years. thethe other two councilors, their father served for over 30 years. and the honest was to justth honor and respect the fallen officer in the way that we felt fit best for the situation. t wawe asked for one daynythin in addition to what was already being flown, not take anything down that postpone any ceremony. just in addition. eve so i honor the fact that that even said is is very disturbing. they re saying it s a processing issueed 30 dayso pr. we need 30 days to process a request that just i mean, come doesn on. that doesn t even pass the straight face test. but that s what they re arguing here. councilwomane test thank n, you s thanko much y. we ll 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although mayer looked like he was melting out there, top gear. i well, i could see the melting pot on page. biden also held a press avail with ukrainian president zelensky wity, and his note cards took center stage. yeah, you know, as iple said yesterday, creative people have been incredibly brave, never giving up, never say never, never even yielding. and, you know, you haven td bowed down. you haven t yieldeatd at all. you continue to fight in a way that is is this remarkable, just remarkable. and once we got to national security bill passed, that was political fruition. tony blinken, looks like he s going to crack in halnyf. - he looks terrible. it s like ready to jump in, right? he s like, o th, hubba, hubba, hubba. please don t talk any moment. cost tnuse the america taxpayers $225 million, which he announced today a in aidoney to ukraine. this is just unbelievable. money growrowsn s trees or the apprentice. now, one of the two cards. ge i am feeling very f generoueg to you tonight, so i am wishe granting you three wishes, aren t sweet. my first wish is that that those host. i didn t bring the lamp today. i figure you could. you could improvise. but lookmy firstish is my firstt those hosting the miss usath pageant would actually crown misses. the other day, the winner of the miss maryland pageant was a biological malt wae. a the u.s., laura baileys and kelly is now a miss contender. the trans beauty contestant is not eveiseven then the first biological male to compete. miss nevada crossed that barrier in 2021. why don t they jusll it call it the person usa pageant at this point? well, againi guess i guess s is what women want. this is this is women, though they came a long way to have their own space, their competitions. and i guess that s jusust t t it s it s this is insane. well, all right. we re going to talk romance.al what s your second wife? remember during the trump trial, for weeks and weeks, we were subjected to those deformed sketches that seemed to be created by a toddler with a crayon? look it looks like you joined the cast of planet of the apes. well, i wish trump would have had hunter biden s sketch artist, who appears to be norman b rockwell. look at the flattering lines, the details of these drawings. i mean, hunter biden, make it look so good. laura, can you answer ca of th? me is can we get rid of the court? sketch artis?t is this 1812? the can t they just have a photographer come in and letsit the judge approve the photos and release them? why do we need a sketch artist sitting there with gray hair in norman rockwell? but he looks like it s a throw. it looks like it s a throwback to to like my three sons or something, right? oh, looks so polished. oh, it s not that one. but th t e other one. i don t need to look at the nice line on his nose. it s a dick tracy. it s like a tracy moment. i don t know. he looks like a matinee idol. my third wish concerns the plusl plus size influencer, jaylin chaney. we discussed 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yeam is making me do another segment. w all right. follow me on social media. you watch the show. you knowme o media , i am terrified of insects, especially zeropecil spiders that well, they re now spreading, making their way uplp . the east coast. i hope they re skipping over the d.c. are theast.a. these things are huge. of upthesesleg span to four inches. and one is apparently here right along with andy davis, ecologist at the university of georgia s autumn school of ecology. andy, it s nice to see you.the i the cicadas, this year, we re going to be the worstcar tog have to deal with. but now i.but no i understand your spider friends are back. yes. thanks. thanks for having me back. you know, it s weird how these zero spiders seem to get in the newsd s all the time they re they re a bit of a media sensation, are they? mediaion.well, tell us, do youv have one with you or that? my staff just teasing me about that. was si, i do, yes. you know, but first, you need to know that a t this stage are of their life teasing, they are very, very small and.a grai so think of a grain of riceth with some legs. so i have one right here h in this little jar. and so small you can barely see it. but okay, so it s not veryhat so dramatic. look, container heret very d ann set it up on my microscope right behind? me so you can see it. there is. c and so you can see that itt looks like a little tiny spiderr right now. it s very small size of a grain of ricsmall,of ae. the e at the end of the summer, there will be a sort of spider size. that s when everybodnd for arts to see these for real. and do they fall off trees? i is that just an urban legend?an i mean, do they jump off treesss ? they jump off bushes. where are they jumping? not really, no. they re very jumping not sedet like any other spider. they ll set up a webentary i and they ll be in that web for three or four months. and you ca b for thn walk by them the and they won t bother you if you don t bother them. nowill notr w, you 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We as we move ahead and as we look at the insecurities that are on that border, what did you make that comment? sorry, which comment? which one? trump s segment hill, reverse. i mean, listen, it s so absurd. what republicans were offered was more than they had ever been offered before from democrats they made the political calculation to not take it to save trump. now, they got something that, would solve a problem and now trump is san while it s no good on, i would reverse. i mean, it s absurd. no one s interested in solving problems anymore. it s all for political gain and people are sick of it. indeed, law fig se cup, who i should note is the host of the new election show, battleground that starts june 10th on fox stations. be sure to watch i m not sure hear on the source as well. thank you both. also tonight, the war over reproductive rights is heating up on capitol speaking of no solutions. this is the election is drawing closer. democrats that s want to put pressure on republicans to go on the record. this time when it comes to birth control, one of the lawmakers leading that charge
Represented by their colleagues that they brought in and they applauded. they stood up and cheered those people. but when it comes to us they didn t you are now out campaigning for joe biden obviously, pennsylvania s a critical state here, but i wonder because we ve heard former president trump talk about revenge and retribution. you ve been very vocal when it comes to opposing him. do you worry at all that he may target you because of how you have criticized him look, when i first began to speak, i was being neutral about certain things you know, about what happened, about my experience, about what i did, what we did on the capitol but giovanna is not the one offering pardons for the same people who attacked the law enforcement officers there myself, i was injured, a sustained multiple injuries on that de to severe enough to require surgeries and
Democracy they were defending the legislators who are at the capitol that day who had a mob sect on them. and this is where republicans have completely lost the plot, mean it is like the alitos flag at their house. it is completely upside down in terms of what, what the republican party has decided that it is going to side with the insurrectionists actively and you re going to see a lot of signs in here, a lot rhetoric about backing the blue. and that is going to exclude people who backed the blue against insurrections and instead they re going to sing a national anthem. to defend the people who attacked the capitol that day. it s not just politics, like, and this goes back to the conversation we re having about ronald reagan and joe biden right now, these people this maga, republicans, that movement, they don t like america, donald trump doesn t like america. one of the characteristics of the republican party that i was attracted to is that it thought america was a good place. we did things right here. we would never do something like storm