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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180409:06:03:00

a mother. and now her body lay at the bottom of the basement stairs. >> it was devastating. >> reporter: if ever there was a woman who took life in big gulps, it was annamarie cochrane rintala. even as a little girl growing up amidst a big irish-italian family in springfield, mass, she'd loved the limelight. pasquale martin is her uncle. >> the first time i had seen her take the stage and sing "mambo italiano," it just knocked me out. >> reporter: not afraid of the spotlight, huh? >> nah, she loved it. >> reporter: she could belt it out to the rafters but was she any good? her friends t.j. donahue and mary petrone are diplomatic. >> she thought so. >> she was -- oh. no, i -- she could carry a tune. but she thought she was much better than she actually was. >> it didn't really matter because she -- >> it didn't. >>head the charia --

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gym, a 30-minute drive from the rintala home, about 3:00 p.m. the afternoon of the murder. said she went out for a long run. then left the gym at 7:00 p.m. investigators located security images that supported her account. is carla's alibi rock solid? or does it have a window for foul play? >> i would say it's pretty rock solid unless she had access to a helicopter. >> reporter: that left investigators with one remaining suspect, the one who'd topped their list since the night of the murder. the person who knew ann best, who loved her, and who fought with her -- cara. because as sunny as these two seemed in public, sometimes behind closed doors they went after one another. as cara admitted in her police interview. >> we'd argue and it would get physical, absolutely. and i'm no angel.

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and so we have to practice safety everyday. utilizing pg&e's talent and expertise in that area trains our firefighters on the gas or electric aspect of a fire and when we have an emergency situation we are going to be much more skilled and prepared to mitigate that emergency for all concerned. the things we do every single day that puts ourselves in harm's way, and to have a partner that is so skilled at what they do is indispensable, and i couldn't ask for a better partner. reporter: after two hung juries, the prosecutors in cara rintala's third murder trial weren't taking any chances. this time, they added a lesser charge -- manslaughter. did it mean you didn't believe in your case as much or you wanted to salvage half a loaf out of this thing? >> we thought there's no harm in giving this jury yet another option of a verdict of guilty.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171203:10:47:00

well, you know, you've got to have some proof of that. and they don't. and i'll tell you why. you can look at these texts, and, once again, cara is the calm one. ann is the one who goes from zero to 60 in about three seconds. >> reporter: and by the next morning, the defense attorney said, ann was going her breezy way, promising her buddy mark that "big kiss" in a text. >> not a word about fighting with cara. not a word even like, "gee, things aren't too good around here right now. cara and i had a big fight." nothing like that. >> reporter: then to that afternoon of errands. and from cara's side, app trash can at mcdonald's. >> because that's what they did. they had to pay for their trash bags in granby. so they were dumping their trash

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now back to "dateline. ". welcome back to "dateline." i'm craig melvin. as prosecutors ready for trial, they had little physical evidence to support their case. could they convince a jury that this doting mother was also a killer. here again is dennis murphy with "at the bottom of the stairs." >> reporter: prosecutors knew when cara rintala was arrested in late 2011 for murder, they had a mighty challenge on their hands. and so it proved. the trial opened in early 2013. and it ended, three weeks later, with a hung jury. >> breaking news, a northampton jury has failed to come to a unanimous verdict. >> reporter: a year later, in 2014, trial number two. same thing happened, incredible as it seems. another hung jury.

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ann and cara had each filed those restraining orders against the other. a district court judge heard them sniping at each other and erupted, threatening to have dcf, the department of children and families, take custody of brianna. >> if i see that come into this court, i'll be on the phone to dcf so fast, they'll be here before you get out the door. >> reporter: it was a turning point. because of the judge's warning, each woman now knew that one wrong move could cost them custody of the daughter they adored. so the prosecutors' theory of what happened on march 29th. there was a violent fight and ann went down those stairs. whether she was pushed or not, they couldn't say. what mattered, they told jurors, was what happened at the bottom of the stairs. >> the defendant had to make a choice. call for help. likely face criminal charges. lose her home. lose her daughter. lose her livelihood. or, on the other hand, make ann

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171203:10:05:00

ended up working with people. >> reporter: did she like the adrenaline of it? running hot with the blue lights going? >> i would say yes. >> i would say yes, 100%. yeah, who she was. >> reporter: it was under those flashing lights, back in 2002, that ann met another paramedic named cara rintala -- and fell for her. like ann, cara was compassionate. but in other ways, she was ann's opposite. if everything about ann was larger than life, everything about cara was contained, even cautious. sandy montagna is cara's mom. carl montagna, her stepdad. >> she had a plan. always had a plan. was very conscious of where she was headed in life. >> reporter: after a couple of years together, ann moved into cara's house in the western mass town of granby and they decided to adopt. >> this is a real step. i mean being a couple together and moving in your furniture is different than, "we are going to raise a child together." you know, this is -- >> right. >> a commitment. >> and so, i don't think it was looked upon lightly.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171203:10:35:00

ann, working the overnight, jealous that cara was home alone with a male friend. she lashed out, "i hate the relationship we have. no one does that. no respect." cara's response, "okay, you being over the top and crazy." >> it really is, in our mind, a fuse being lit, something that continues into the next day. >> reporter: the next morning, the last of her life, ann, a phoneaholic, called or texted friends and family members 58 times. >> i want to show you just one final entry here. >> reporter: the final call to her beloved aunt nancy was placed at 12:21 p.m. then, uncharacteristically, ann went silent. >> do you remember if she left a voicemail on that occasion? >> no, ma'am. >> you did not speak to annamarie that day, is that correct? >> no, i didn't. >> reporter: the timing of that last call was important, prosecutors argued, because they theorized cara murdered her wife soon after, then spent hours cleaning and covering up.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171203:10:14:00

tip that paint over. >> reporter: other things spoke to the trooper. items on the basement floor with blood under them. the trooper took out a pencil and gingerly lifted a laundry basket. there was blood beneath it. what'd that tell you? >> it tells me that, you know, things in this crime scene were moved before we got here. >> reporter: police videoed the scene. that night, a shattered cara rintala called family members, breaking the dreadful news. and then she went to the granby police department for an interview. it was almost midnight when detective lieutenant robin whitney hit record, turning the clock back to 8:30 that same morning when ann got home from her overnight shift. >> we were talking. she made me coffee. >> reporter: playtime with a noisy brianna followed. then lunch. and after, a request from ann, a paramedic, remember, who was trying to nap before another overnight shift. >> she's like, can you just go to the mall or whatever. >> reporter: cara and brianna left the house about 3:00 p.m.,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171203:10:58:00

she didn't know that she was dead at that time. >> reporter: then, that paint. lacey, do you agree there're some time problems between when you believe the time of death is and this paint still being wet? >> oh, absolutely. yeah. >> reporter: what do you make of this? >> i really -- i almost wanted her to admit to spilling the paint, just to make sense out of it because without her spilling the paint, it just didn't make any sense. >> reporter: finally, the matter of premeditation. was this a planned act? >> cara had her hands around annmarie's neck for up to four minutes. so that's a long time to reflect and restrain yourself. and nellie did this great thing where she just timed four minutes. and you sit there and think about your hands around this person's -- >> reporter: i can elect to not strangle you at this point. i can remove my hands, right? >> right. four minutes is a long time. it was a real long time. >> reporter: they were ready for the final vote. >> and it was clearly 12 yeses -- of guilty.

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