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Dateline-20210814-08:45:00

have to believe that you could say, oh, shoes, i've got to put these on top of the vehicle. charles, it doesn't make any sense. doesn't make any sense. >> no, no, no. see, here's the thing, i'm wiping the shoes off, and i see one little leg or something hanging out the passenger side. i go to investigate to see if there's anyone else in the back of the vehicle. and when i leaned in to look, i put the shoes on top. i don't even remember doing it. >> doesn't remember doing it and he says doesn't know why. >> i wasn't thinking about why i did that, but i was cognizant and really thinking about the dna or possible fingerprints from having tripped and touched those shoes. >> but you know, that palm print, charles, is just where you would brace yourself to lean across to shoot at that little boy. >> that's according to defense expert witnesses. you gotta understand, the prosecution has that same evidence, they don't see it that way. >> but what i'm saying is, if you're so concerned about tidying up why would you be so clumsy as to leave a big ol'

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Dateline-20210814-08:15:00

boney was hauled back into the interrogation room, and the questioning became more confrontational. >> you've got some explaining to do here, charles. your palm print is on that bronco. you're there. now this is the time, this is the place. this is your last stage that you're going to have to tell us what the hell happened there. this is it. >> this can't be happening. >> charles! >> after hours of denial, boney changed his story. yes, he did know david camm. they met playing pickup basketball. then in another round of questioning, the story changed and changed again. finally, boney put himself at the crime scene. >> the reason why i was there was to bring him the gun. >> that night? >> that night. >> boney said david camm asked him to get an untraceable gun. he said that he was a guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> as events started to unfold in the investigation, it became apparent that this case was intertwined between two people. >> now the prosecutor had a new theory.

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Dateline-20210814-08:13:00

sweatshirt had been identified as charles boney's. and just two days later, the cops brought boney in and started grilling him on how it ended up on the garage floor. >> that sweatshirt is in the middle of a crime scene of a triple homicide. somehow that sweatshirt got there, your sweatshirt. you explain to me how it got there. >> i have no idea. >> boney admitted the sweatshirt had once been his, but said he'd dumped it in a salvation army dropbox about a month before the murders. >> it shows up at a crime scene. not laundered, not washed. if it would have went though the salvation army drop box, that would have been a clean sweatshirt. your dna, chances are, probably wouldn't have been on there, but it is. >> i see where you're coming from. >> as for david camm -- >> do you know david camm? >> no. >> you ever met david camm? >> no. >> do you remember the murder of david camm's family? >> on television, yes. >> do you know where david camm lives? >> only on television. i don't even know what his address is.

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Dateline-20210814-08:42:00

this guy?" "he's a criminal." and the guy who just got out of person doesn't smell a rat? he doesn't think, "maybe i'm being set up?" it makes absolutely no sense. >> the defense took on boney's story in cross-examination. we had some of the same questions when we spoke to him. >> how many versions did it take to get to the story you just told, charles? what, three, four, five times, maybe? >> yes. i finally realized that the more i keep lying, i'm just digging myself deeper and deeper." "i'm not going to get out of it." "and when i did finally start tellin' the truths about things, i didn't feel comfortable revealing too much too soon because i didn't want to be a part of the case to begin with, so, once again, i resorted to telling a lot of stories. >> but the big picture here, charles, for a lot of people, is that it sounds like a crock, that a felon, just out of the slammer would hook up with a recently retired state police officer and do this gun exchange.

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Dateline-20210814-08:47:00

cash. >> charles. let me put this to you directly. were you in the garage that night with the gun in your hand, taking control of kim camm? >> no, sir. >> kids started to cry, i told you to shut up, shoot the wife when she comes after you? >> richard kammen's theory is totally wrong, it never happened. >> in your panic, forget the sweatshirt, forget about trophies of the shoes that maybe you were going to take later, but for the first time this sex fetish itch that you have has gotten totally out of control and you've massacred a family. did you do that? charles boney, did you kill that family? >> no, sir. in fact, that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. a guy with a foot fetish kills an entire family just to satisfy his foot fetish in a place where he's never been before? it never happened. >> what are you hoping the jury hears today? >> i have no comment, sir. >> with boney as the wild card, david camm's third trial came to an end after nine weeks. >> it's over. right now, just waiting for the verdict. >> would the jurors believe the

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Dateline-20210814-08:46:00

hand print on the vehicle? >> i -- i leaned in to check on the children, what i seen there was horrifying. i'm not worried about that palm print, i didn't even realize i left a palm print. do you think that if i had have known i wouldn't have taken the time to wipe it off? i wanted to just get out of there. >> did you touch any of the victims, charles? >> no, i did not. >> so how does he explain his touch dna on kim and jill camm's clothes? >> i've touched david camm, we've shook hands, and he handled my sweatshirt. my skin cells are clearly on him. so anything that he touches can be transferred. >> while the defense couldn't tell the jury about boney's past, the foot fetish, the armed robberies, we knew the record and asked him about it. >> when people understand your criminal history, the fetishes, what happened in the garage seemed to fit your appetites. this guy's history just played out on a violent scale that he'd never been through before. >> well, first of all, my history does not consist of killing women, shooting people period. i've not ever had anything like that in my past. yes, i've been in possession of handguns. yes, when i was 20 years old, i did some armed robberies for

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Dateline-20191230-07:15:00

you're going to have to tell us what the hell happened there. this is it! >> this can't be happening. >> charles! >> reporter: after hours of denial, boney changed his story. yes, he did know david camm. they met playing pick up basketball. then in another round of questioning, the story changed, and changed again. finally, boney put himself at the crime scene. >> the reason why i was there was to bring him the gun. >> that night? >> that night. >> reporter: boney said david camm asked him to get an untraceable gun. he said that he was a guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> as events started to unfold in the investigation, it became apparent that this case was intertwined between two people. >> reporter: now the prosecutor had a new theory. david camm did not act alone. he had a co-conspirator.re each charged with the three killings. david was outraged.

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Dateline-20191230-07:42:00

we had some of the same questions when we spoke to him. >> how many versions did it take to get to the story you just told, charles? what, three, four, five times, maybe? >> yes. i finally realized that the more i keep lying, i'm just digging myself deeper and deeper." "i'm not gonna get out of it." "and when i did finally start tellin' the truths about things, i didn't feel comfortable revealing too much too soon because i didn't wanna be a part of the case to begin with. so once again i resorted to telling a lot of stories. >> the big picture here, charles, for a lotta people, is that is sounds like a crock. that a felon, just out of the slammer would hook up with a recently retired state police officer and do this gun exchange. it just doesn't seem to make sense. it doesn't pass the sniff test. >> there's a lotta things about this case that don't make sense. >> if i were you i would have alarms goin' off inside my head. here you are, on probation, how do you know that this former cop is really a former cop and he's not setting you with a sting? >> although that did cross my mind and i had concerns about it, there was somethin' about him.

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Dateline-20191230-07:46:00

my skin cells are clearly on him. so anything that he touches can be transferred. >> reporter: while the defense couldn't tell the jury about boney's past, the foot fetish and the armed robberies, we knew the record and asked him about it. criminal history, the fetishes, what happened in that garage, it does seem to fit your appetites. >> well -- >> this is this guy's history just played out on a violent scale that he'd never been through before. >> well, first of all, my history does not consist of killing women, shooting people period. i've not ever had anything like that in my past. yes, i've been in possession of handguns. yes, when i was 20 years old, i did some armed robberies for cash. >> charles, lemme put this to ya directly, were you in the garage that night with the gun in your hand, taking control of kim camm? >> no, sir. >> kids started to cry, i told you to shut up, shoot the wife when she comes after you? >> richard kammen's theory is totally wrong, it never happened.

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Dateline-20191230-07:14:00

you. >> now see that would normally worry me. i wasn't there. >> reporter: then, two weeks after letting boney walk, there was something else. something big. >> "early, uh, yesterday morning, i was notified of some uh additional scientific evidence, uh, that linked mr. boney to the, uh, to the homicides." >> reporter: the prosecutor revealed that a palm print found on the exterior passenger side of the bronco doorframe was left there by none other than charles boney. investigators had been aware of the palm print for more than four years but only now did they know whose it was. boney was hauled back into the interrogation room and the questioning became more confrontational. >> you've got some explaining to do here, charles. your palm print is on that bronco. you're there. now this is the time, this is the place. this is your last stage that

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