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they were protected. they might have to happen here with the new york state court offices who are capable of doing that. it will cost money, but that is a suggestion that maybe judge merchan should look at that judge kaplan did in the federal case. >> let me go back to the scene for just a minute because lisa rubin it has occurred to me that honestly anybody who has been to the scene of a fire, most journalists, i imagine have at one time or another, this is not the kind of incident where emts come in, they take the person that's hurt and take them away, so i want to sort of get the lay of the land right now, what you'regh seeing, what you're hearing, what maybe you're smelling. >> as we look out, chris, beyond our camera, we can see an increased police presence, the side street along the row where the cameras are set up is increasingly filled with more and more police, people are milling about in the street, there are law enforcement
sandoval hearing scheduled this afternoon. what impact will it have on the potential to start to get the meat of the trial underway on monday. we are expecting to hear from juan merchan at 3:15, whether he'll keep that, we don't know. that's the schedule right now, right? >> reporter: it is the schedule, chris, and i was speaking to folks, whether or not we thought the judge could delay the sandoval hearing. the hearing is expected to take an hour or so. if they're able to wrap that up, they would then be excused for the weekend and they would start proceedings monday morning, possibly opening arguments. i would say that the instinct that we have right now considering how the judge has run things so far this week, even with what has taken place today outside the courtroom and how horribly tragic it is, our instincts are telling us the judge will likely go forward with the sandoval hearing, even with all of this happening
sentiment. when i saw it happening, as i was talking about the impanelled jury for donald trump, i thought to myself in my head, i think there's a fire in the middle of the park. and then i thought, no, that is an individual. that is a human being was on fire. we haven't learned much about this individual and/or the status of him. we know he was taken away by emt. i mentioned he had thrown some papers up in the air. we had gotten a glimpse of some of those papers. it seems to have some vast conspiracy theories written on these papers. that is all we know. whether or not that leads to the motive as to why this individual would have done something so horrific like this to himself, i think, is to be known. and to be learned hopefully more from this press conference that's happening in just a couple of minutes or. so none the less, this man dave that i speak to, really, chris, understandably shaken by what he witnessed just a few feet away
wind coming down the north sea, making it feel on the cold side. the afternoon as claudia, the threat of rain across northern scotland, but overall a decent kind of day. in the sunshine, it won't feel too bad. northern ireland and western scotland will have the highest temperatures, probably reaching 16 celsius also. on sunday, more cloud coming in from the north sea. a few showers for east anglia and south east anglia, —— south east england. the highest temperatures will be for the west of scotland and northern ireland again. before i disappear, the sun is really active right now and there is a chance of catching sight of the aurora tonight and into the weekend. the best chance of seeing that is away from light pollution. use a mobile phone or a camera and you might see the aurora putting in an appearance. thanks, chris. and that's bbc news at six. now its time to join our colleagues
because having now selected them, the rest of the proceedings for this afternoon should be devoted to other pre-trial proceedings, namely what we know as a sandoval hearing, which explores the boundaries of permissible cross-examination so that donald trump can himself make an informed decision about whether to take the stand. again, chris, all bets are off right now for what this afternoon is going to be like, even though things about the events outside were reverberating through the overflow room. we haveth devices at our dispos in there. we have laptops, we're in touch with our respective news organizations. judge merchan is sitting solo on the bench and particularly because he was questioning prospective jurors, there was a point in time where the screen went black asim he was talking the end. so we don't know what he knows. we couldn't see him or any of the lawyers at the very end. it's not clear to us whether the secret service was able to communicate goings on, either to the trump side or share that
with an individual. his name is dave. who witnessed this thing closer than me. i'm about 50 feet from the man who set himself on fire. this individual was inside collect pond park. he had come here from the upper west side, which is about 5 miles north of where we are in lower manhattan, just to kind of see what was going on when it came to the trump trial. and he wanted to check out what was happening with the media, and instead, he encountered this individual, and he said this man threw some papers up. and i had described earlier, chris, when i was on the air with you, there was papers surrounding this individual. he threw papers up in the air, multicolored papers and then he had doused himself in gasoline, and he lit a lighter and then subsequently set himself on fire. you mentioned, chris, as you were coming to me that for many individuals who witnessed this, me being one of them, you couldn't quite understand what was happening in front of you, and i would echo that same
>> reporter: yeah, chris, and this does really punctuate that split screen week that the biden campaign was going for with the president doing events in pennsylvania three days in a row culminating in this endorsement from about 15 members of the kennedy family backing the current president in his bid for reelection over their own sibling, their own relative, robert f. kennedy, jr., who of course is mounting that third-party candidacy. we know in terms of talking to the kennedy family members that this was a difficult decision for them. it was weeks and months in the making. they had visited the white house, and they had been with president biden a short time ago for st. patrick's day. and they really had been having these conversations behind the scenes about how do we deliver this message that robert f. kennedy jr.'s candidacy could potentially peel off some key votes in critical battleground states that could harm the president's bid here in this race. and they ultimately decided to
in lansing, michigan, where the alleged crimes took place. for some 14 months. in that time, larry nasser continued to see patients and allegedly abused as many as 70 women. really catastrophic failures by the fbi, which said it subsequently tried to improve systems there. but settlement negotiations are ongoing, chris, and we are told the number could reach as high as $100 million, far less than a billion dollars claimed by these women but a big settlement for the federal government which is notoriously hard to sue. and it's the third in a series of big settlements made because of fbi mishandling and mistakes. a significant moment. these women were betrayed on so many levels by so many different people. it brings to a billion dollars the money paid in civil claims in connection with this case and larry nasser is serving functionally a life term in prison. >> ken dilanian, thank you. up next, the science behind
of court today here on this thursday, chris, and i can tell you right now, there's a crop of 18 potential jurors, if i may, to simplify this here. essentially they are on the second round of being potentially cut. the first round was making it through the 42 question questionnaire. now this is the voir dire process. this is where right now the district attorney's prosecutor has 30 minutes to ask all 18 of these individuals together. they can go one by one, pinpoint one, go to another. some very specific questions. in fact, right now, the prosecutor from the d.a.'s office just asked one about instagram, and the fact that she had had thoughts about the actual defendant, and she said that not strong opinions about the defendant, which is of course a very specific note, but then after that is when the trump legal team will have the opportunity to then go and ask
they'll take that over the truth any day of the week. chris matthews, thank you so much. >> thank you, chris. good to see you. >> thank you. all right. still ahead on "morning joe," impeachment charges against homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas have been dismissed. >> why? >> because -- >> no high crime. no misdemeanor. no nothing. >> big waste of time. >> yeah, more political garbage. >> we'll show you what senate leaders are saying about how that played out. plus, when iran launched retaliatory strikes on israel, a number of countries, including jordan, offered critical assistance. jordan's foreign minister will be our guest to discuss that support. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.