Whelan. bret: he has to be frustrated over time he has been overlooked. is there something that can shake the tree? unfortunately, we will have to wait until the elections here because president putin doesn t have any interest in making a deal that might make president biden look good. bret: beauty returned to russia and opened exhibition of artwork while imprisoned in the u.s. he now serves as member of regional legislature and maintains his u.s. imprisonment as griner says of hers in russia was unjust. with the same outrage was in russia when i was sentenced to 25 years. many people would say for what? bret: in recent years russian officials have arrested an american school teacher and a musician on drug charges. a dual citizen was taken into custody for alleged treason while trying to visit her family. and at least two american journalists, including evan gershkovich are behind bars. accused of spying.
Felon. nypd is revoking his gun license and makes sure he does not have guns on him. whether he gets back nukes, he is not trusted with a single gun. in vermont state party rules ban a convicted felon being promoted. and most convicted felons face travel restrictions. donald trump is effectively banned for over 30 countries. they could waive that if reelected but he is just a private citizen and it is not clear he can go places if he had reasons, campaign or otherwise to want to be in other countries before the election. we are now joined by the former commissioner of the new york city department of probation martin horne. welcome. good to be here.
bret: obviously, we have a personal relationship in that evan wall street journal reporter under our corporate umbrella and we have been doing stories and stories and a lot of, you know, outside pressure. is this one of these things where it could last for a long time? i have you might call me an optimist, but i believe that after november, no matter what the election results are, in this country, they will be a period of opportunity to negotiate for his release. and i thank you for all the conch that you do on him. i know you have done conch with the american families of hostages in gaza. and that conch, again, from a negotiating part of you, point of view, it is so useful it and critical in order to help us get people home. bret: while the united states and others can work with negotiators to call for the release of americans, the government cannot state to an overseas court that a citizen is guilty or innocent or provide
To, we look at the status of russia s imprisonment of americans including whelan and wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich. you know, when we do our work, none of the deals that we bring together are fair or just. it gets criticized a lot. mickey bergmann has spent the last decade helping free americans overseas including russia. he worked on negotiations alongside former ambassador for the united nations bill richardson. he now directs global reach for richardson center for global entertainment. criticism on this the more you do the deals the more you incentivize taking more americans. recent arrest of u.s. citizens could be response to failed negotiations to release paul whelan. we are learning new information tonight about the american citizen being detained in russia on an espionage charge. bret: in december of 2018, whelan was in russia for a friend s wedding when he was taken into custody on espionage
Release, to express donald trump s desire to harm american citizen that they was reaching for throttle. the conversation with donald trump said, can t you just shoot them? . just shoot them in the legs or something. them being american citizens. protesting. amid that desire to turn the military weapons on american citizens protesting the murder of a black man, donald trump decided, four years ago, take a victory lap that unemployment had reached 11%, 7% higher than what we have now, by invoking the memory of george floyd. hopefully george is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that is happening for our country. this is a great day for him, it is a great day for everybody. it is a great day for everybody. is a great, great day. in terms of the quality. it was a great day for george floyd. the man murdered by police violence and a country with 100,000 dead by coronavirus and
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Naturalize new citizens and always very moving to naturalize somebody who is already wearing uniform of this nation, who signed up for the u.s. military as resident and becoming a citizen after having put on the uniform of our country, what an example. pete: i was in charge with my company of helping guys wearing our uniform become citizens and nothing cooler. ainsley: that is amazing. steve: that is great. brian: do you worry about our school system teaching we are an exceptional nation. i do worry about that. i got that education in social studies 50 years ago, i was a senior in high school. the basics, our local congressman came to our high school, i thought that was such a huge deal. i do worry about whether or not 17 and own year olds today are getting even the same basic civics education someone on the
Together for such a common purpose with such determination? i worry about that. i worry whether we d be able to do that today. what happened 80 years ago was such a tribute to character of our nation. lawrence: what do you think it will take for us to come together for a moment like this? i used to say a crisis. we had a crisis with covid and we were divided then. these days, in my post-government life, working with the american bar association on how to strengthen and restore democracy and i think a lot of it goes back to basic civics education, what this country is all about, what citizenship means, the responsibilities of being a good citizen. greatest generation understood that. brian: same question, pete.
Some people maybe have switched based on the verdict? well, it reflects confidence in our jury system, but also how this jury conducted themselves. it wasn t all public, but the sense is that they took it seriously. they tried to do the right thing and it was not a 93 hung jury. it was 12 zip and, so i think that buhle build confidence over time, but it s also important how the jurors handling cells they re not going out and holding news conferences. they re really did it as a citizen. and i think that draws respect there was one poll that said majority has confidence that the jury verdict, even though a plural rally, it believes that the whole case was politically motivated, and that s the buffer that we have our jury system. and i think the public is starting to see that so governor are isaac dovere has got a really interesting article out about outreach from the biden
Operatives, some of whom who took part in the october 7th attack were hiding. schools like this one have been a shelter for palestinian civilians throughout this war. there were families seeking safety inside that school. it is clear now that a number of civilians have lost their lives. a nearby hospital in central gaza is saying at least 14 children and 9 women were killed in this strike. the israeli military says it twice delayed this operation to try to minimize civil usage casualties, and says it took other steps to reduce harm to citizen. once again, a strike aimed at hamas leaders, and it s killed civilians inside the strip. israel s leading human rights group is saying if hamas