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more. >> writer e. jean carroll for defamation after a jury found that he was liable for sexual assault and that he defamed her. so it's important to point out here that carroll testified that a conversation with you in 2019 led her to seriously consider suing trump, but do you think that trump has a case here? a counter case to sue her for defamation? >> it is the most ridiculous thing. i mean, and we have seen so much that's ridiculous. this is one of the more ridiculous things we have ever seen. because the fact tof the matter is the jury found that he sexually molested jean. and that -- you know, whether you -- whether it's technically rape under new york law or not, which is, you know, it would be rape in many other states, what the jury found that she did -- and the jury didn't -- what he did. but the jury didn't find that she -- that she was not raped. they just said we find that he -- you know, and it was sufficient for purposes of a
you lost buddy. you lost. and that's the context. >> he is just pushing all of this anyway. so george, also today, if there weren't enough illegal dealings having to deal with former president trump, he was -- >> there's only going to be more. >> he was countersuing e. jean carroll for defamation after a jury found that he was liable for sexual salt and that he defamed her. so it's important to point out here that carroll testified that a conversation with you in 2019 led her to seriously consider suing trump. but, do you think that trump has a case here, a counter case
rules don't apply to him. from a legal standpoint, devastating. conservative lawyers who have stood up for trump in every instance are looking at him saying, dude, you are digging this hole so deep that you, with all the help in the world you're not going to be able to get out of it legally. i will say that politically if you want to make the counter case, the counter case is 2016. a split republican field, you don't need 50% to sam stein's point, you don't need 50% to win a winner take all primary. a split republican field. the trump base looks at all of these talking heads and says they're rhinos, they think fox news is now liberal. they've dismissed it all and can trump win a republican nomination fight with a split field and a hard core 40% of the republican party. i'm not saying they will be able to maintain that. maybe it will all dissolve over
we have seven days is this going to be the government coming up with a counter case is the government going to say we appeal but we know we have to go to the higher judge what happens in the next seven days >> the government has to appeal. the appeal goes to the 5th circuit which is easily the most conservative, ideologically driven appellate court in the country. one of the things that my friend steve lattik, a law professor at the university of texas, has wring extensively about is the ways in which during the trump presidency, conservatives got the results they wanted from the supreme court. here we might see that turned on its head we might see the department of justice on behalf of the fda seek immediate relief from the supreme court because they know it's not going to be forthcoming from the 5th circuit we are in a position tonight where a washington federal district court has issued a
have been terribly unfocused when it comes to the economy to me. trying to bring new people in to vote that just don't vote in midterm election. so i want to do a counter case to what you just said, make the argument for trying to bring in new voters. you know, a lot of people, the economy is top of mind but also voters, you know, do voters understand that what congress does on the economy is not going to have as much impact as what they are going to do on abortion rights, as what they are going to do on a presidential election. abortion rights, outcome of elections, those are entirely within congress's control, and both of those issues are fundamental, about fundamental rights of the republic, and you can make an argument to people who don't normally vote, particularly young people, you can make an argument to independents, you can make an
solder's helmet at 500 feet and knock him down dead up against kids at 5 feet. it may be funny to you [ bleep ] but it's not funny to me, okay? >> so i don't know who he was referring to -- >> they talk like that in new york all the time. >> what's the big deal? >> beto o'rourke drops f bombs, he does this, but at an event like that when he was -- i don't know exactly what was going on there, but what did you see? >> what i saw was somebody who is -- if you ever talk to beto o'rourke and i know you've interviewed him, he is passionate about being part of that border community. he feels it very deeply and very personally and that happens to be how he expresses himself when he is in the moment. is it going to help him politically? i can't see how. >> actually i could make a counter case. let's put texas aside which is where he's running, absent that, i think it speaks to a need, a desire right now for a fiery liberalism that fights back and
slams trump in expletive laden message. percenters and proud boys accused of conspiracy. serious charges related to the insurrection. clint, once and for all, who was responsible so that if louis gomer, doesn't seem to be the brightest tool in the shed apparently wants to make this countercase, who's responsible for the january 6th insurrection? >> that would be president trump supporters, several different militias, the qanon fantasy, it was there, joy. he was out in the yard. he was delivering speeches. saying he was going to walk to the capitol. why they were there. what i find interesting about these defenses, they're going if it a couple ways. one group sticking together. no, no. election stolen. go with the big lie and try to
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