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talked to his attorney general yet. that s right. reporter: i had a chance to catch up with kellyannec conway. i asked her whether or not the president views this decision as some sort of set back or defeat. she didn t exactly answer that question, but here s what she had to say. this is a defeat? do you see this as a setback? he sees it as the statute provides a president with great latitude and authority to protect the citizens and protect the nation s national security. this was not argued on the merits. now that we ll have an opportunity to argue on the merits, we look forward to doing that. i think his tweet was perfect when he said, we ll see you in court. there you go. some confidence being expressed by kellyanne conway at the white
house. not a lot new in terms of arguments being laid out by the white house in response to this, just the very tough talk that we re going to see you in court. that is not exactly going to win the day at the supreme court. i asked kellyanne conway, is this something you re now going to take to the supreme court. she didn t exactly answer that question either. i think the next legal steps for the white house are sort of up in the air at this point. i don t think they ve gotten to that point in terms of where they go after what is a set back for the administration. do we expect the president to continue his line of attack, whether it s verbally or on twitter against particular judges as he continues to fight for this ban? reporter: you heard in that audio that we played earlier, that he sees this decision as
now, four months from now. but he has said on camera this decision poses a grave threat to the national security of the united states. so his option is very simple. withdraw the current order that is subject to the stay, write a new order with the help of his new attorney general, national security people, perhaps some legislators that will survive constitutional attack. explicitly eliminate green card holders. alan is exactly right. this is an option for donald trump to admit that he was wrong to file this executive order and say, i m going to do better next time. alan, have you been paying attention for the past 20 days? do you think that s a possibility? we have a conflict between what the president says is the national security of the united states. i think we can pressure him into saying that in order to protect
the national security of the united states, he can t tolerate a situation where for the next months this case is in limbo and it s not being enforced. by doing that, isn t he acknowledging then that they rushed into this, it wasn t well thought out? he could decide to do that, you re absolutely right. but i guess the question is, is that probably? there s another way he can do it too. he can leave this order in effect, leave it subject to a stay. and then issue a new order that supplements the order. i m now going to issue a new order and that order applies only to a, b, c. the reason i think that jeffrey is correct on this is if you look at donald trump s history, the president the last big piece of litigation he was involved with was his trump
university case. now, how did he respond to adverse rulings in that case? he attacked the judge, calling him a mexican. but he did ultimately settle. he ultimately settled the case, but his initial reaction is always aggressive fighting back, freigthreatening appeal. he said he hadn t talked to the attorney general. after one of the things that surprised me is that normally when the government loses a case, you get sort of a vanilla statement that says we respect the decision of the court, we re going to look at the decision and decide whether to appeal or not. but the response here was a twitter response. professor foley one of the main arguments from the department of justice was that the president s decisions about immigration when motivated by national security concerns are unreviewable. it says, quote, this is no precedent to support this claimed unreviewability.
look, i think that s fundamentally correct. i don t think that the president s decisions on national security are unreviewable. that s really not the argument that the administration is putting forward here. the argument instead is that under a supreme court precedent called youngstown, when the president acts with the explicit blessing of congress, which the president has done here, he is entitled to a presumption of constitutionality. when those two political branches are in agreement, the court should defer on the issue of national security. i do not see that the ninth circuit engaged in any such deference here. they did argue unreview to believe the this court. in a very half hearted way. they actually just seemed confused. the guy paused for a long period
of time when asked about this and said, yeah, it s unreviewable. clearly they were not impressed by that argument. and they shouldn t have been impressed by that argument. everyone agreed that the constitution would trump any statute or any presidential executive order taken pursuant to a statute. but i do want to remind the viewers, though, that this is a statute that congress has passed. that statute says that the president may suspend the entry of all or any class of aliens if he deems it appropriate in the national interest. so he does have the blessing of congress. this is not just the trump administration. this is congress also weighing in on this and blessing what the president has done, which is narrower than what the president could have done under the statute. so what we have here is a court that s being very aggressive and not giving the president and congress the deference that a court would normally give them.
well, you know, that s true. that is a part of what congress did. the other part of what congress did was say you cannot discriminate based on national origin which is part and parcel to what s going on here. remember what s really the case. the court did give extreme deference. they talk about it a great deal in the opinion that they were trying to defer and they recognize the president should deserve some deference. however that deference is contingent on there actually being a national security issue. the court was trying to resolve this very discreet point, please tell us why we should reinstate a ban and not go back to the pre-ban status quo where when he had vetting measures in place. tell us why you would be harmed, federal government, if we returned to the ban we had in place. to that, there was crick kets.
that said we re not going to do that. i think that s a critical issue here, which is that nationals that s a critical issue. they were the most intense vetting of any travelers to the united states, in particular those coming here as refugees and in particular those coming from sierra. the idea there was a need to do more than was being done in a substantial way is not actually supported. leon, from your expertise and past role as the director, how will this work moving forward going through the court system? it goes back to the way it was but that doesn t mean, to paraphrase donald trump, a bunch of bad people will rush in. it still means everybody has to go through the same process of applying for a visa, the vetting. take the example of syrians. if you look at the history of our adjudication of syrian refugee applicants, many have
been denied. during the process of looking at those cases we found bad information in law enforcement intelligence databases, we didn t find them credible during the course of interviews. that means there was a process in place that was working. there is always room for improvement but the fact is the process was substantially working before. secretary, the president said earlier tonight the court s decision was political. as has been pointed out, there was a carter appointee, a george w. bush appoint tee and one from president obama. is this political? as someone who has argued these issues in the country i see this as a weak decision. when you have a decision full of gaping holes you have to wonder where the judges are reaching without sufficient legal backing to get there.
couple examples, standings of the states challenging an executive immigration order of a president. we had states asserting injury to the student is through several leaps of logic was a state of injury to the state itself. irrep raability. the court concluded the injury to the state, you can t repair it. the court was saying you can. we re talking about a national from a terror sponsoring region or country allowed to come in and then vanishes back into the fabric of america like the 9/11 hi line of scrimma hijackers did. you can t find that. the due process analysis. the court took the most favorable person and said there are multiple candidates of aliens affected and they took the most favorable to say a
lawful permanent resident with his green card saying he needs time to make his case before you revoke it. there are other aliens affected by the executive order who don t have the same due process claim, they ve never been given anything by the united states and the court was applying the due process so everyone. i would love to appeal this because it would be easy to go against this on appeal. i want to talk to our other attorneys about this. we have to take a quick break. we ll continue in a few minutes. we ll talk about the political impact this loss may have on this president who obviously loves to focus on winning. stay with us. people spend less time lying awake with aches and pains with advil pm
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it wasn t on the constitutional merits of the executive order but they held up what the washington court had ruled on last friday. the president tweeted, see you in court. we ll wait to see if there s more reaction from the white house. do you see this as a setback? he s seen it as the statute provides the president with great authority to protect the citizens and the nation s national security. this was not argued on the merits. now we ll have an opportunity to argue op the merits and look forward to that and prevailing. i think hi tweet was perfect saying see you in court. professor dershowitz, before the break, robach said there were map issues including standing. assuming the president does not take your advice and issue
another executive order, goes to the supreme court, do you think the issue of standing is going to be primary? i do. and i think that the supreme court will not accept the lower court s rulings on standing. this is the most extreme extension of standing i ve ever seen. it gives the state of washington standing to raise constitutional issues on behalf of a family in yemen who have never been to this country and are coming for a tourist visa. it s a stretch. also the establishment argument which would give standing because the establishment clause is limitation on government, it s hard to say there s an establishment of religion here because they picked seven terrorist nations that happened to be nations that are involved in islamic extreme terrorism and giving preference to religious minorities. the refugee act in 1944 gave
preference to jewish refugees being victimized by nazism. if it goes to the supreme court on the merits there s a substantial case the court will rule in favor of the trump administration at least insofar as it applies to people who have never been in the country. but it s a long time in coming. i don t think the supreme court will reverse this stay order but if they get to the case on the merits it will be a very close case. jeffrey toobin, the president tonight said this politics. how much does personality play into this? are they affected by the president of the united states tweeting about them or calling them out? many any journalism career i ve devoted a lot of my life to figure out why judges do what they do and i ve only had partial success. it is difficult to ask a judge why did you rule the way you did because they always say the same
thing. i wrote it down. that s why. the law forced me to rule the way i did. the fact is judges are human beings so it s not just the law. i don t think donald trump helped his cause by demeaning judge robart and calling him a so-called judge, saying all these judges are political. would this decision have come out a different way if he hadn t said those things? i doubt that too. at the margins i think judges are affected by the political context, by the emotional environment but, you know, the merits are the merits and i think these judges i tried a lot of cases and universally lawyers say don t insult the judge, don t become the judge s enemy because in truth in a close case an attack on a judge could be fatal to your cause. but here you have a unanimous decision by the court in a
strong opinion against the trump administration. i really don t i think the insults are a strategic mistake but i m a trial lawyer too. i think at the end of the day facts matter. and i think what the court saw here is there are an intensive vetting process in place. there was no real showing by the administration how this step would in any way actually enhance our safety based on the steps that were being taken. the administration failed to make a factual record that showed at the end of the day they were going to protect us any more than the system in place. professor? you know, look, let s keep in mind that this has been procedural wrangling thus far. i agree with alan i ve never seen any decision by any court that pushes the idea of third party standing this far. usually that s used for individuals who cannot for some pragmatic reason bring their own constitutional claims. that s not the case here.
those are affected, the students, faculty, scholars in the state of washington affected by this executive order were perfectly free and capable of bringing their own lawsuit should they have wisheded to do so so to extend standing to an institution like the state of washington is unprecedented not supported by supreme court precedent. i do think that would eventually be overturned. going back to the merits of this case, assume even strict scrutiny applies to this executive order because we believe there s some sort of national origin discrimination or discrimination based on religion, you would ask yourself first, is there a compelling government interest. that here is national security. that s been accepted as a compelling government interest for a very long time now. then you d ask yourself about narrow tailoring. this executive order is narrowly tailored to the seven countries identified be i the previous administration and congress as po posing significant national
security risk to americans and limited in time. i think it would survive both prongs of strict scrutiny. the administration is in a very strong position on the merits. could i make a brief point on standing because lawyers love to talk about standing but moat people don t know what they re talking about. it s the right to bring a case in a united states courtroom. i think what has the surprised all the lawyers who have looked at this decision is that what the court said here is that the state of washington, because it brings students into its universities, brings customers into its restaurants, is the representative of virtually anybody across the world who s not an american citizen and it extend in some respects to the constitution nal rights of americans that professor dershowitz was raising the issue of why does a family in yemen who s never been to the united states exactly. why would they are have standing to appear in our federal court
and say the u.s. constitution protects their rights? laura? we re forgetting about a recent case where we assumed standing was not an issue. the texas dreamers case where the state of texas was acting in a similar way to the state of washington and its decision about whether to extend an executive order of president obama. we re all guessing to an extent because the supreme court did take that case, a 4-4 split, but we have no idea whether they were ultimately going to find standing. the thing about supreme court cases, even though the ninth circuit as found standing in this case, even the if the supreme court took this case, we can t presume they will also agree there is standing. that will be an argument they ll have to face. to say it s totally unprecedented is irresponsible. secretary, professor dershowitz raised the idea of a third option a that the president could do is start out with a new executive order and make it more focused and if that
went to the supreme court, if he got another ruling that is there an advantage for him to get a positive ruling at a lower court level before going to the supreme court? if he goes to the supreme court from this ruling from a ruling against him, does that in any way sort of prejudice the supreme court against the case? well, obviously, if it s a 4-4 decision it would not be sufficient to overturn it would go back on appeal. exactly. there s that disadvantage here. there is the point i made earlier, i think this is a poorly respectp earlier, i think this is a poorly respectoor ly reasoned opinion so it s a good candidate for appealing but on an eight-member court there s a problem. i would say the court barely scratched the surface on the facts at the district level and the ninth circuit level. there are many terrorists who have come in from somalia, the bowling green terrorists, those plotters were from iraq, so the
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fweeting, see you in court. shortly after that the attorney general from washington state had this response. well, we have seen him in court twice and we re 2 for 2. that s number up with. number one. in my view the future of the constitution is at stake. jeffrey toobin is back with us. al lewis. kirsten powers. jeffrey lord. kayleigh mcenany. and dana bash. dana, in terms of the presidential reaction calling this a political decision, it was a unanimous decision including a judge appointed by president george w. bush. would it surprise you if the president continues to go after these judges? to go after them personally rather, yes, it would surprise me given the backlash that we have seen from everybody including his own nominee for
the supreme court. however, i m told by a senior administration official that the backing that they say that they have for the allegation that this was a political decision is because of the fact that in this ruling the judges cite arguments that the washington state attorneys made talking about the fact that this is effectively just a part of the muslim ban that then candidate trump talked about on the campaign trail and that is they argue unconstitutional. now the judges didn t actually say they agreed with it but the fact that they referred to that argument a couple to-tiof times their ruling suggests to the people at the white house they say it is inherently political because they re reaching back to a political statement even though the justice department attorneys were arguing no, that s not what this is about, this is about national security. jeff toobin, does that make
it a political statement, in washington they were reaching back to things candidate trump said about a muslim ban or alleged comments to rudy giuliani? i think that ridiculous. the decision is the decision and the decision is by a bipartisan group of judges and the fact that they cited a statement by president trump, it is well established that the courts can look at motivations for law. it is not just the text of the law. courts can look at legislative history, at the statements of members of congress when they re reviewing a statute. that s something the courts have done for decades. the fact that a president a candidate and then a president has talked about a muslim ban, that is up with factor that is relevant. jeffrey lord, is it a political decision? sure. how? i think these people have political opinions i mean, i hate to say this, i was disillusioned of this when i
worked on about five supreme court nominations if for reagan white house. this is a highly political process. fact that roger towney tried to right slavery into the constitution was political because he was pro slavery. a judge in washington was appointed by george w. bush, one of thee jumgs when i bork eworked in the u states, i worked on appointments. they come through the senate, get a blue ship from the home state senators. the senators in washington are liberal democrats so they ll see to it whoever is appointed is fairly consistent with their point of view. i think it s fair to say there are judgments that are perspectives and it s entirely possible he has a the george bush appointed judge has a perspective. we don t know that. to say like jeffrey said intent is something you look at. that s a matter of law, something you consider. what donald trump said about
what he wanted to do is relevant. there s nothing political about it. then you look at the actual words in the executive order and that was the problem is the executive order on its face actually i think isn t providing a religious test that s unconstitutional but when you add in what donald trump said his intention was, that s where they run into trouble. they could have said, wait, here s what trump did, he designated these same seven countries president obama did as having an affiliation with terrorism and said based on these legitimate the white house, when we talked to the communications director last night, saying it was the republican controlled congress who identified these they allowed the white house department of homeland security to make a list. part was designated by congress, part by dhs. what president trump should do, he faces a hostile climate if he appeals this to the supreme court. there is zero chance you will
get ginsburg, sotomayor, breier to come on your side. don t appeal to the supreme court. you ll lose there. let it play out on the merits because i think they can win there. or as alan dershowitz suggested make the executive order more limited to appease the ninth circuit and let this go away. isn t that donald trump, president trump, having to admit this thing was rushed, wasn t well thought out and we made a mistake and partly. it should have never applied to legal permanent residents. they have a full panoply of constitutional rights. they should say we rushed this, we re amending it. appease the ninth circuit and the national security of the united states. one of the most fascinating parts of this are the countries they chose to single out and continue the place at the feet the obama administration. they rely on what happened on 9/11 but they fail to honor the fact 15 of the 19 attackers were from saudi arabia, not included in the executive order. two were from the united arab
emirates, not in the executive order. one from egypt, one from lebanon, not pakistan. it says in the second this is based on what happened on nine hef. that s another part we have to look at. in the decision, it s important to note, the ninth circuit said we have begged, basically begged the white house to make its kay, show us why it s so urgent to get this done and they have not come up with an explanation. they department go through country by country. they said why do you have to do this and the white house explanation, an overreach sort of saying our decision is unreviewable. you re not supposed to challenge us on anything. if we say terrorism andimmigrat courts are supposed to all fall away. the most important part of the decision is the court saying that s not the standard. how much does it hurt the
white house and start to occupy the time of the white house? this becomes obviously a huge deal for them until they come up with something else to change focus. no question. it already has. the fact of the matter is that this has taken up much of the octob oxygen of the first few weeks of the trump presidency and not in a positive way. certainly, the president and his aides who wrote this and said they thought they were doing this first and foremost to keep the campaign promise or at least part of one think that they did okay but even the president we know but not happy when he realized the way that this was fumbled big time in its the way it was written, executed, communicated, every way you re supposed to do something like this that is so ip credibly sensitive and knowing it is incredibly sensitive. isn t it about timing? there was an order along with
the opinion issued today where the court laid out how you appeal en banc. and the short version is the briefs won t even be in until the end of march if they go en banc. it gives you some idea of how long this will stretch out. we have to end it there. i ll talk to senator senator richard blumenthal about the heat he s taking from pump about neil gorsuch s rashes about the judiciary. known for its perfect storm of tiny bubbles,
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his fate and avoiding questions about president trump. this after senators from both parties say gorsuch told them in private he found the president s remarks criticizing the federal judge s lg a challenge to the immigration s immigration ban demoralizing and disheartening. attacks on the judiciary by the president to be disheartening and demoralizing. reporter: today meeting with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss the nomination to the high court, the president denying gorsuch ever criticized him. his comments were misrepresented. reporter: white house press secretary sean spicer went further insisting over and over that gorsuch was talking in general term and not direct recalling out the president. the judge is clear he was not commenting on any specific matter, right, and asked about
his general philosophy. he went out of his way to say i m not commenting on a specific instance. reporter: that statement refuted by a spokesman and senate republican that met with the nominee and said they discussed the president s criticism. disheartening is a great world. the judge and i talked about that and frankly, he got pretty passion it about it. your answer about the context doesn t make sense when you think about what senator said this morning on tv. he said he asked judge gorsuch specifically about the president s so-called judge tweet and in response this is like the fourth time i ve asked and answered. this is a different context. i understand that. reporter: connecticut senator richard blumenthal said gorsuch made it clear he wanted concerns shared. in fact, judge gorsuch specifically said you should feel free to mention what i said about these attacks being disheartening and demoralizing. reporter: still, he and other democrats want gorsuch to go further and publicly denounce
the president s comments. what he did does not show independence. it shows an ability to desire the appearance of independence without actually without actually asserting it. reporter: while republicans contend the episode demonstrates gorsuch s respect for judicial independence. what judge gorsuch is showing here is his independent character, the fact as a judge he s going to call them as he sees them. that was atheena jones reporting. i want to get your reaction to the decision of the ninth circuit court of appeals. this ruling may be narrow in scope but has very, very broad ramifications in ending the chaos and confusion that president s executive order unleashed. it s a real victory for the rule of law showing courts will not be bullied by threats and personal insults and my hope is
that it indicates where the courts will be going and sending the president a message. rip up this order. do not adopt bans based on religious tests or unconstitutional standards. today the white house press secretary sean spicer said that judge gorsuch was talking in general terms and not direct recalling out the president when he was speaking to you. so i want to ask you, was gorsuch talking in general terms? in disputably he was talking about president donald trump s attacks on the judiciary and i repeated several times that i was absolutely outraged by these attacks by the president of the united states and judge gorsuch responded that he found it disheartening and demoralizing. referring to those same attacks
but so were those that he found it demoralizing and disheartening? the it he was referring to you have no doubt was what you had the tweets, the comments by the president? not only i have no doubt but also his spokesperson that same day confirmed my interpretation. judge gorsuch s own spokesperson and at least three of my colleagues have heard the same thing from judge gorsuch and confirmed it, two of them publicly. so i think that president trump ought to listen to them and to his own white house staff who were at the meeting. just to be absolutely 100% clear, when sean spicer says and i quote the way senator blumenthal character riizes the he was talking about tweets, that s not what the judge said. you re saying he s flat out wrong? i m saying what judge gorsuch said to me is that disheartening and demoralized were what he
found donald trump s attacks to be. and there is no doubt in my mind that he was referring to those attacks because i urged him and in fact, he must publicly condemn them, not behind closed doors in the privacy of my office and colleagues but publicly, clearly, directly. that s what he must do. you said you said that to him? absolutely. how did he respond? yesterday you said that, you know, he sort of didn t really answer. he declined to answer that question, and he declined to answer other questions, which i found very troubling. but i mean, he will be appearing on the hill in public hearings. you and others will have the opportunity to ask questions publicly. isn t that the venue for him to be able to talk about the president s tweets or to repeat what he said to you? it s another venue. and i will press him very aggressively for answers then and in the meantime but right
now, there is a special obligation for him to condemn publicly these attacks because the independents of the judiciary core principle of our democracy is at steak here and it s not at some point in the future that he can avoid the damage to the courts. it s right now. and he needs to demonstrate his independence, otherwise the american people will have justifiable doubts that he will be more than a rubber stamp for the trump administration. the president also brought up an incident from 2008 where you said you served in vietnam and hasn t actually serve in vietnam but served during vietnam. president trump this morning tweeted quote senator richard blumenthal who never fought in vietnam misrepresents what judge gorsuch told you. do you have any response to the president? this issue is not about me. it s far bigger than me, and far bigger than judge gorsuch s nomination. it s about the independence of the judiciary and donald trump s
attacks on it, which really are a disservice to the core principle of our do maemocracy, integrity and independence of the courts. thanks very much. thank you. a quick programming note to the breaking news on the travel ban court ruling, the messy truth van jones will not air tonight. instead, tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. bob ferguson and solicitor general, i ll talk to them live about their victory.
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like global warming. we can t do that if people feel embarrassed to be associated with the united states. you combine that with the fact that the state department has essentially been neutered, e s eviscerated by this administration thus far and watching in real time as america and america s image withdraws from the world. do you know any republican senator or member of the house who s a republican, any party member of any party who believes the president believes he was wiretapped, who even believes he believes it? i don t think anybody knows exactly what donald trump believes and what he doesn t believe. i think what s scary to many republicans is that they ve had the opportunity to walk this back and they re putting not only the presidency and the reputation of the presidency, but the reputation of the entire country at risk, the longer that this floats out there. the reality is is congress can ask the department of justice as to whether there s a wiretap, bul but if there s an active investigation, the department of justice may not tell us, so its difficult to get to the bottom of this what do you mean, an active investigation wait a minute.
well senator mccain, i think, is from the sane era of politics. here s how some other top republicans reacted including senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and chair of the senate and house intelligence committees. i think we have an existing committee, the intelligence committee, looking at all aspects of what may have been done last year related to the russians or the campaigns and we ll leave it there. have you seen any evidence of that? mr. leader no, i haven t. we don t have anything today that would send us in that direction, but that s not to say that we might not find something. i have not seen that evide e evidence. as you know, i think a lot of that was maybe a little bit the multiple tweets were perhaps a little bit strung together. as you all know, the president is a neophyte to politics. he s been doing this a little over a year. and i think a lot of the things
that he says, you guys sometimes take literally. sometimes he doesn t have 27 lawyers and staff looking at when what he does. what do you make of that? that s a cover? that s explaining a guy s behavior? it s like he s he s treating the president as if he s in a crib and wants his pacy. he talks about him like he doesn t know what a tweet is. he knows how to tweet better than all of us. he gets up at 6:00 and does it. he accused the previous president of wiretapping him. there s nothing complicated about this. why doesn t mr. nunes, chairman of the committee, call up the fbi director, said was anybody asked for a fisa warrant on this? did anybody ask permission to wire this guy or not? end it. this is going to float out there for months and years. yeah, listen. i wouldn t tweet my 8-year-old like that. the fact is we would hope that an adult would occupy the oval office and we couldn t expectwo
team of 27 lawyers around him to decide whether he should falsely accuse the previous president of the united states of tapping his phones. that s a ridiculous standard. and in the end, yeah, it is pretty simple to get to the answer to this question. there is no evidence that barack obama tapped donald trump s phones because it didn t happen. and republicans right now could ask the questions necessary to get at least that answer. maybe we won t know if the fbi was or is investigating trump, but we can get the answer to that question, republicans can. okay. thank you very much, senator chris murphy of connecticut. well, there was troubling reporting in the the new york times today about president trump s mood swings last weekend. according to the times, he was in high spirits after he fired off the posts, those tweets but midafternoon after returning from golf, he appeared to realize he had gone too far with his tweets although he still believed mr. obama had wiretapped him according to two people in trump s orbit. in some conversations that afternoon, the president sounded uncertain of the procedure for
obtaining a warrant for secret wiretaps on an american citizen so he didn t know how you would do it but said obama did it. anyway, meanwhile, we re getting reaction on former president obama s reaction to the news. according to nbc, our network, a source close to him, told nbc news, mr. obama rolled his eyes. and the wall street journal report, he was livid over the accusation that he bugged the republican campaign offices believing mr. trump was questioning both the integrity of the office of the president and mr. obama, himself. of course, he was. i m joined by the wall street journal s carol pllee who wrot that article. and the washington post s phil rutger who s been all over this thing. carol, did you notice the way that this young, relatively young member of congress, nunes from california, i don t know much about the guy, treating the president like he s a little baby. you know, he gets a little upset once in a while, says things he really shouldn t and doesn t have the help of advisers like lawyers around him so he does things that really don t make
much sense, but we shouldn t blame him because he s a neophyte. he s a neophyte. yeah. there s definitely that s a defense. that s what a criticism looks like. there s that s the republicans the republicans why are so they they re greading him on a curve. they re helping him hide. by the way, boehner, when trump was running around saying obama was an illegal ill grant frmmig kenya, people asked him, tell your fellow members it s not true, he said i don t tell them how to think. this is the way they behave in the republican party today. they re so intimidated by this guy, trump, that they just cover for him. your thoughts. well, i think, yeah, the republicans don t want to get crossways with the president. why? they also why are they afraid of him? because they have flithings y would like to actually get done in congress and don t want to pick a fight with the president. and they also are taking they re aligning with the white house in terms of the cleanup of this where you have the white house saying, well, we don t look at it, we ll look into it
pane, you know, congress, take a look thal look into it. what happened, more importantly, what the democrats are doing, this winds up being a gift to them because you have people like schiff saying we re going to oblige him on his request, look into this. the white house is going to wind up getting all the things they didn t really want like hearings on this. and a further investigation into this. congress loves hearings. let s face it. they go on and on and on, get on tv, on and on and on. when do they get to a conclusion? a big one on march 20th. when you talk to white house officials as we were doing this week, this is the last thing they want to talk about. want to be talking about health care, tax reform, about angela merkel s visit next week, about all these other issues and stuck having how long have you been around? let me ask you a question about having to get flak for the president. i thought about what kind of job that would be, i think it would be a very difficult job. people like josh earnest know how to do the job well.
it s doable. i ve never seen a press secretary have to deal with a president that s saying stuff he or she doesn t believe. i mean, really. spicer has ever since the crowd measurements back in january 20 he had to lie for the president which is a terrible word to do, but he had to do it. had to say, oh, yeah, 3 million to 4 million out there and all this. this time around he doesn t want to do that. he s saying, i m telling you what the president says. then somebody asked yesterday, do you believe him? he said, that s a cute question. it s not a cute question. you ask the president s spokesperson if he or she believes what the president is saying. it s a reasonable question. he has really distanced himself from that, it s interesting to watch. he said, you know, if you ask him, what you zdo you think? he says it doesn t matter what you think. it does matter. we he says it s above my pay grade. that s a tired old line. you re the spokesman for the whou white house. it s not above your pay grade. it s your job. he got into the job. decided to bt he doesn t want to have his
career ruined, i can tell. he s pulling away from trump. he is not lying for him. this is a pattern in donald trump s life, he inserts things that are got necessarily true, tries to find evidence for it. did you see kellyanne s pivot the other day? he knows so many things we don t know. she didn t say she s covering for herself in this case. thank you, carol lee. thank you. it s a tough time to be a straight reporter. this is not a straight world. phil rutger, thank you. coming up, the rolling disclosure on trump s potential russian connection continues. today we learn trump s former campaign manager corey lewandowski gave carter page leave to go to russia last summer. it just keeps growing and growing. plus on this international women s day, the trump administration s considering separating women, or mothers from their children if they try to enter the country illegally. that s going to be wonderful. i mean sar castically. it s going to be table.
the hardball roundtable here tonight to talk about the challenge of separating fact from fiction today and trying to get to the truth during the trump era. finally let me finish with the trump watch. you won t like this one, either. you re watching hardball where the action is. oh.not the smooch method! come on. what s going on here? you know how ge technology allows us to fix problems before they. they slow production, yeah. well, no more catchy business acronyms. wait, we don t need to smooch? i m sure we can smooch a solution! we just need to hover over the candice, problem until.
just let it go. hey, sorry i m late for team building. smoooooooch! that felt right. what s wrong with you!? he s so trusting. well, when he was a candidate, donald trump said he loved wikileaks. the website that collaborated with russian intelligence to help defeat hillary clinton. well in fact, he repeatedly professed his love for wikileaks. by the way, did you see another one, another one came in today, this wikileaks is like a treasure-trove. this wikileaks is unbelievable. what we ve learned about her and her people. we love wikileaks. boy, they are really wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. boy, that wikileaks has done a job on her. hasn t it? i tell you, this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart. you got to read it.
now, this just came out, this just came out, wikileaks, i love wikileaks. well now wikileaks, the beloved wikileaks, released a trove of what it says are cia documents showing how the agency broke into smartphones and even tvs for spying and today the cia said it had no comment on the authenticity of those documents. when we come back, we ll talk to u.s. congressman waukeen castro of the intelligence committee about the latest wikileaks dump and what we re learning about president trump s relationship with russia. back after this. that could sense vehicles in your blind spot. take on the unexpected, with six 2017 iihs top safety picks. it s clear why we re america s fastest-growing auto brand. get to nissan now for 0% financing on 11 models & no payments for 90 days.
i love to see businesses that just started from ground up grow into further success. it just feels good to know that i m helping someone else. my first goal is to learn about their business, what they re currently doing in their advertising. pull some research, create a great story. trying to figure out some way of building some kind of trust in a very quick moment. you have to love to work with people. our goal, without a doubt, is that all customers are satisfied before they leave. can you say whether you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with russia during the course of the election? no, nobody that i know of. you re not aware of any contacts during the course of the election? how many times do i have to answer this question? russia is a ruse. i have nothing to do with russia. to the best of my knowledge, no person that i deal with does. welcome to hardball.
last month, president trump denied that anyone in his campaign, as you just saw, had any contacts with russia during the election. but in making that statement, the president directly contradicted the word of russia s deputy foreign minister who said just days after the election that, there were contacts during the campaign. we now know that thee members of trump s national security advisory committee, senator jeff sessions, j.d. gordon, carter page, all spoke with the russian ambassador during the campaign. additionally just before the republican convention, carter page traveled to moscow where he delivered a commencement address ken vogel of politico reports, page e-mailed campaign manager corey lewandowski and spokeswoman asking for formal approval for the trip and told by lewandowski he would make a trip to moscow but not as an official representative of the campaign. corey lewandowski telling politico i don t remember that, i probably got a thousand
e-mails at that time and don t remember every single one i sent. i wouldn t necessarily remember if i had a one-word response to him saying he would do something as a private citizen. page left the campaign in september. trump campaign officials later distanced themselves from him. late today a source close to former utah governor jon huntsman tells nbc news that huntsman was offed and has accepted the position to be the next u.s. ambassador of russia. joined by u.s. congressman joaquin castro of texas, serves on the house select committee on intelligence. also here, ken vogel who wrote the story, chief investigative reporter for politico. congressman, you re in there and i guess my question is, we know an awful lot thanks to the 17 intelligence agencies about the way russia wanted hillary to lose and if it could be really lucky, get trump to win. how they wanted to undermine our democracy. that s all on the record. we also have a lot of other things on the record. how trump romanced or bromanced the russians all through the campaign. said wonderful things about their little instrument called wikileaks, said wonderful things about vladimir putin, about everything over there, how he s
going to be their allies in the world against isis, et cetera, et cetera. seems to me a lot of information is out there about the symbiotic relationship between trump and the russians. what do you know more, or can you hichbt nt at where you thins story s going? you know, chris, insaid very clearly as have others on this committee, we need to get to the bottom of one question. did any americans conspire with the russians who interfered with our 2016 presidential election? and specifically, did anyone associated with the trump campaign help those who interfered with the 2016 presidential election? when we keep seeing more and more connections between trump advisers, at least coming out in reports, these trump advisers and the russians. and so, of course, this just speaks to how important the investigation is. well, doesn t the i mean, my experience over the years is the fbi, as part of our counterintelligence effort in this country, which all other countries have, they have all kinds of electronic wiretaps and information like, leb trelectro
communication, involving the russian ambassador and officials who look like they might be under cover. why can t don t we get that information out? when s it going to come? the information. the nsa s got it, the cia s got it, certainly the fbi. what s the wait for? that s a great question. you know, i ve been critical of the pace of the investigation at least in the house committee. i said last week there is a gap between what the intelligence agencies know and what the committee has been told. adam schiff, the democratic ranking member, has essentially said the same thing. so i m with you on that. i think we should be moving in a brisker pace. you see there s a few hearings on this issue that have now been scheduled and publicly hopefull start moving at a quicker pace because all americans deserve an answer to these questions and getting to the bottom of it really is fundamental to our democracy. we know what russia did to
help get trump elected and as a candidate, trump repeatedly made overtures to putin. let s watch him. i think i g d get along very well with vladimir putin. i just think so. wouldn t it be nice if actually we could get along with russia? and what s wrong with are russia wants to drop million-dollar bombs on isis? i say, good. putin said donald trump is a geni genius, he s going to be the next great leader of the united states. my attitude, when people like me, i like them. even putin. russia, if you re listening, i hope you re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. putin s a killer. a lot of killers. we got a lot of killers. what, you think our country s so innocent? let me go to a couple things that do matter here. certainly our policy toward ukraine. our policy toward crimecrimea. i think either administration, democrat or republican, obama who normally a republican administration, would say russia, big bear, hold back,
don t be grabbing back those countries on your border so easily. you got back crimea, we ll fight about that. certainly don t make any moves on the larger part of ukraine. now we get the sense that the platform in the republican convention this year, the plank dealing with that, was changed and look at this, during the same week the trump aides spoke with the russian am babassador cleveland during the republican convention, the trump campaign watered down an amendment to the party platform that supported ukraine against russian aggression. trump s campaign chairman, paul manafort at the time, denied responsibility for the change as did trump, himself. trump also defended russia s right to seize crimea from ukraine. here he is. everybody on the platform committee had said it came from the trump campaign. if not you, who? it absolutely did not come from the trump campaign. so nobody from the trump campaign wanted that change in the platform? no one. zero. why did she soften the gop platform on ukraine? i wasn t involved in that. you know, the people of crimea
from what i ve heard would rather be with russia than where they were. well now politico is reporting a ukrainian operative with suspected ties to russian intelligence consulted with paul manafort during the political o ukraine he played a role in changing the platform language. ken, what do we make of this? in they soften up the republican platform, usually a hawkish party, softened them up because they have inside operatives in the republican operation here, we ought to know about that. they re quick to say, in fact, the language in the platform ended up being tougher than it was before this amendment was proposed. wasn t as tough as not thanks to them. right. certainly. we have reporting that does suggest, in fact, there were representatives of the trump campaign who did play a role in watering down that proposed amendment that would have been much tougher. so it s yet another example where they come out with a blanket denial, say we candiddi have anything to do with the platform, turns out they did.
flynn says to the vice president of all people, i didn t talk about the sanctions with the russian am bass dr. turns out he did. sessions tells the judiciary committee, i didn t talk with any russians. the biggest problem for me, they cannot get their stories zragt he straight here. if it comes out, congressman, you may be the first to know on the intelligence committee, that there was a positive role by the trump people in getting the russians to do what they did in terms of screwing up the democrats in the general election, with all the hacking and they played a role in that, would that be impeachable? if at the end of the investigation it s found the president s advisers played a role in aiding the russians who interfered with the election and the president knew about it, then that is historically significant and it s a betrayal of our democracy and certainly i think many people would move for impeachment. thank you so much. u.s. congressman joaquin castro of texas, thank you, ken vogel, for your amazing reporting these days. up next, it s international
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to plan a national demonstration called a day without a woman. women. it s plural there. thousands of women abstained from their it s a great word, abstained from their day jobs and took to the streets. that s a live picture looking at right now from new york outside the trump soho hotel. they re rallying against the discrimination and division they say the president espouses. here we go. i think it s important that the country know that women are standing together against hate and division and discrimination. what we have to do now is do what we can is protest and stand up and let the country and our elected leaders know what s important to us. and so that s what we re doing. in washington, several female democratic lawmakers symbolically staged a walkout in support, there they are, in red. 21 members of the congress. we know one thing for sure, that when women succeed, america succeeds. well the other end of pennsylvania avenue, donald
trump honored the day by dropping in on his wife s luncheon and tweeting on international women s day, join me in honoring the critical role of women here in america and around the world. and i have tremendous respect for women and the many roles they serve that are vital to the fabric of our society and our economy. the tweets drew immediate criticism because of trump s record on women. his administration is also under scrutiny for its lack of gender diversi diversity, intention to defund planned participaenthood. and to separate women and children to cross the border illegally. secretary john kelly confirmed the administration was considering that proposal. here he is. our department of homeland security personnel going to separate the children from their moms and dads. yes, i am considering in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network, i am considering exactly that. they will be well cared for as we deal with their parents. joining me right now for more, maria teresa kumar, ceo of
voter latino, and former campaign manager for mitt romney, katie packer. both are attorneys. you have a tough job now. we have to talk about it. sounds like sophie s choice not sophie s choice. the idea of separating children from their mothers. obviously alleged to have broken the law, come across the border, may be asylum seekers. we don t know. may be poor people looking for a job. we don t know. trying to meet some relative here. we don t know. the idea of putting out the word, hey, we re going to separate you from your kids as a way of saying we re going to make you pay for this. well, certainly the notion of separating children from their parents as a punitive action? as a punitive action. as a punitive action, is very unseemly. what i understand, though, about what he s talking about is there is an angle to this that s trying to address the child trafficking issue. that it s not just separating children from their parents that s what he said, though. it s separating kirn from adults. i understand that. were you helping him here? are you helping him? that s not what he said. there might be an angle there
that could be sort of salvageable but this notion of taking children away from their parents that is the you re very good at this, katikatie. i got tell you, for mothers carrying a baby, carrying an 8-year-old. what you re referring to, secretary kelly is also looking at this idea if a parent has someone bringing over they child, they re going to charge the parent with human trafficking. that s just as bad. so this idea that we are the majority of the people that to rming right now in south america are fleeing sexual viviolence, violence, themselves. what countries? el salvador, honduras primarily. not only going to the united states, going to costa rica, belize, where they mostly have family members. what do you make of this proposal to punish people for crossing the border illegally? it s cruel.
it s anti-american. do you think that will at the end of the day, you re trying to get to safety for your family, america has been the beacon of hope. most of these folks are refugees and saying if i have to get separated, i will do it. the problem is even amnesty international has found a lot of these detention systems are completely abhorrent. they re anti a lot of international rights. what should the u.s. government do? they should actually process asylum seekers and if they re not asylum se seekers, what do you do with the ones who are not seeking asylum? the yoert majority of them a. what about the ones who are? everybody believes we need to have secured borders but in a way that is not cruel. you re always good at this. it s not going to happen because it s not good policy. let me ask her about the difference between can i talk to you for a second, ask you a question? what s a difference between a republican view of international women s day and a democrats view? what s the difference between
your point of view from a party point of view? well, i think for republicans everybody s feeling a little sort of protested out. like every day there s some new protest and at some point you say to yourself, you know, when is there going to be sort of a general discussion of the things that you actually object to instead of just this daily protesting of everything that trump does? and you can t hear anything because what was your reaction to trump s comments, mexicans are rapists. islamic women what do you billy bush was who listening and fluffing him on you might say gets fired, trump gets elected president. doesn t that amaze you? it does amaze me. that conversation about women. it makes him a very flawed vessel for a comment like he made today. did you vote for him? i have very publicly said i did not vote for him. i know you didn t. go ahead. i think what he brought on, the way he brought on sexual
violence into a conversation allowed people to have for the first time a conversation between their spouse as and the loved ones. at the same time, what he signals is it almost didn t matter. because he won. because he con. 42% of women voted for him. no consequences. 53% of white women voted for him, too. no consequences for those actions. the reason people keep marching, these are people who may not have voted and are coming into the political process, saying what do we do next? our job is to harness sthat. you know what i learned? women say, men are all like that. i go, they re not like that. more are like that than you think. that s possible because you just defined the possibility of it. yeah. you know what thank you. back again, for the very first time, trump lost young white men. yeah. millennials have good values. millennials have good values. maria, we all know that. maria teresa kumar and katie packer. katie packer, what a great name. up next katie packer. up next, the hardball
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seriously. this after the white house wouldn t provide evidence that former president obama wiretapped president trump s phones during the 2016 campaign. as trump claimed saturday morning. is the white house position that the president can make declarative statements about a former president basically committing a crime and then the congressional committee should look into that and basically prove it? that is not a question of prove it, is they have the resources and the clearances and the staff to fully and thoroughly and comprehensively investigate this. and then issue a report as to what their findings are. so but president trump s twitter statement shouldn t be taken at face value about what sure, it should. of course why no. there s nothing, as i mentioned to jim, it s not that he s walking anything back or regretting it, he s just saying that they have the appropriate venue. so how does a journalist get to the truth in the age of trump? joining me in the hardball roundtable tonight, three reporters who cover politics and the white house.
ayesha roscoe, white house correspondent, saw her there, for reuters, who asked that question, went back and forth with spicer. david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones. msnbc political analyst. laura bassett, senior political reporter with the huffington post. that quhestioning of a press secretary who s definitely out of his element. he obviously doesn t believe his nonsense about the president accusing the previous president of wiretapping him yet he has to say things i think you almost caught him there, should we take it as face value? i thought you d almost get him to say no. of course i take it at face value. of course we have to submit it to congress to see if that s true or not. that doesn t make any sense. that was the point of the questioning. they came out with a statement after the twitter statements which were declared, president trump said i was wiretapped, president obama did it basically. then now the white house is saying, oh, committees have to look into it and have to see whether they re concerned. that s what i was trying to get at was, well, should we take the
twitter statements which were declarative suppose trump said the president, previous president snuck into the white house last night and stole my hamburgers. i mean, something really ridiculous. then say we re going to let the house and senate intelligence committee examine it. i mean, the stuff he the claims are just at what point is spicer or anybody just says i can t take this job anymore, this is stupid, this isn t worthy of my time, i m going to end up looking like a liar here. right. i think that the problem for, at least for the media, is it s almost impossible to fact check some of this stuff. he doesn t care. because, yeah, then kellyanne conway can go on tv and say, well, you know, we say, well, did you get this from a breitbart story or not? and she says, well, he s privy to intelligence that most people don t know and information that most people don t know and the president should be. how to you fact check that when she says there s information that we just don t know? you can t fact check crazy.
the thing is, i ve seen people acting as if they re surprised by this. you and i know there s nothing to be surprised by this. he did this for three years about birtherism. he did this about the crowds in the inauguration. he did this about ted cruz s dad and the 3 million mexicans who voted against him in california. he does this again and again and again. we act as he s a rational actor. what are you supposed to do? ayesha, it isn t like the old ethiopia where every headline began, lion of juda said this morning and pript nt it as if i true. what are you supposed to do? ask tough questions. you have to, you know, if they say things that maybe don t seem to add up, you have to ask them for clarity and then you have to do your own digging. i think it s important for us as journalists to make sure that we re providing readers with the facts. okay. with what we know. when do you get a no on this? i ve been saying the congress
job is to give him a nay. they re not doing anything, not check this stuff out. they say, oh, we re going to buy xerox machines and hire some lawyers and get officers assigned and in six months we ll get down to business, ten years later we might have congress does not move lickety-split. i mean, i thought their response to the whole wiretapping thing was really awkward. all of them were put in an incredibly awkward position of saying i don t believe what the president s saying, he s still the president, okay, we ll look into it. one guy had some guts, had some balls to put it bluntly. that was mccain. one guy. mccain called him on it. as much as he may be bitter against obama, he has contempt for trump. he said trump is obligated to prove this. i think that s a pretty fair statement. you accuse the former president of breaking the law. yeah. it just shows you how far the republican establishment has gone in self-emasculation. yeah. they will not even if crazedy is right in front of them and it s two plus two, they ll say, maybe it is five
because we don t have all the facts. are they afraid of getting a nickname? what are they afraid of? i talked to one house democrat who s trying to get a republican on the bill that trump wouldn t like and the guy said i can t do it, trump will start tweeting at me. they re afraid of trump. they re afraid of the base has been trumpfied. they re running scared. they want him around to sign the medicare privatization bills and whatever they come up with, anything in health care. they can t listen, once you say the president is nuts there s no going back from that. yeah, but some of this, i would hope, would penetrate to the 35%. do you think it will? i think i mean, i think will it penetrate to objective people that are reasonably objective? i think people can be logical and look at what s happening and draw their conclusions. i think especially when, you know, the rubber hits the road and you have to start looking at policies and what s going to come out. i wonder if it s like when you get married to someone, you realize they re different than the one that courted you and you
go, but i m still stuck. it s not different, though, he was like this the whole campaign. that s true. aren t you smart? thank you. the roundtable is sticking with us. up next, these three will tell me something i don t know. i should have known that. bp uses flir cameras - a new thermal imagining technology - to inspect difficult-to-reach pipelines, so we can detect leaks before humans can see them. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.
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on the wiretapping stuff. he s taken a strong stand on the russian stuff, the white house is enraged about john mccain and they are trying to find ways to politically marginalize him and elevate other voices within the party like senator named tom cotton. they want mccain sidelined. i m with mccain on that one. by the way, mccain will never be forgot within what he accused with that woman that accused obama being arrogant. that s profile in courage stuff. trump hasn t done one of those yet. i talked to health experts about trumpcare today and what it would do. you re saying it, aren t you? i m saying trumpcare. like people wouldn t say reagan airport for years but you re saying trumpcare right away. it restricts abortion in four different ways and defunds planned parenthood. explain the abortion piece. it would drive abortion insurance completely out of the market so there wouldn t be an option for women to have abortion coverage anymore and it defunds planned parenthood. totally? the health experts said it
would drive up unintended pregnancies. so it would do away with all birth control help for people. exactly. and have the opposite. that s a counterer effort for the pro life people. anyway, i think if you believe in avoiding abortion, anyway. ais aisha, thank you, please come back. david corn, always and laura basset, yes. i m out of good words. when we return, let me finish with trump watch. you re watching hardball. finally. hey ron! they re finally taking down that schwab billboard. oh, not so fast, carl.
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trump watch, wednesday, march 8, 2017. we have a man in the white house who thinks nothing that s a phrase to keep handy of speaking nastily and outrageously about his predecessor. why not? when he called obama an illegal immigrant from kenya the republican speaker of the house said it wasn t his job to tell people how to think. and with him now calling the former president a criminal, no leader up there in the congress is willing to come out and throw water on the president s fish story. this isn t about how big he says his hands are or how many people he can see on the washington mall or how many elusive illegal voters he says were out there last november. it s about truth and untruth. the truth that the russians helped him win the election. the untruth that president obama had him bugged. i understand why his people want this accusation of his to disappear on capitol hill. it s an old trick. it s what spiro agnew did when he faced indictment for accepted bribes for maryland contractors. he headed to the speaker asking him to be tried by the congress. he figured the case would be

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including the staff the the congressional black caucus, and staff throughout various committees. we ve used this work period as an opportunity to invite staffers from both sides of the aisle to come to the white house and discuss shared priorities and find common ground on the way forward. and we re not just reaching out to capitol hill. we have actively engaged with key leaders and policy makers around the country. it s critical to gather information from states and from people throughout the country rather than just leaders in washington. so to discuss specific action he can take. they leaders, many of whom represent some of the country s largest manufacturers, cabinet members and key aides of the president s staff. the working group will engage in a deep-dive conversation on the attendees specific areas of expertise. topics of discussion include deregulation, tax and trade, and infrastructu
infrastructure. after the gripes conclude their discussion, the president s it is staff will compile the feedback and for a listening session on some of their recommendations. as you can tell by the structure of the meeting, the president is expecting these real creating a dynamic and booming economy that works for all americans. this tibets to be at the top of his domestic policy agenda. as a successful businessman, the president knows if we re going to get the country back to work, we need to hear directly from sxwrob creators, what is holding them back and where appropriate take tips to remove the behalfiers. the in a key economic and economy economic indicators are showing it s working. ceo and confidence are up, and jan wear numbers were strong. the meetings on thursday will continue to build on that momentum. with that, i m glad to take some questions. steve holland?
steve is not here. jeff mason against it then. can you give us an update on the administration s plans with regard to transgender bathrooms again in schools? and can you confirm there has been disgreat between secretary devos and the attorney general? why expect further guidance to come out on that today. the president, as i said yesterday, is a firm believer in states rights. when you look at the guidance issued under the obama to the best of my knowledge that was he stalled, and several legal reasons and several procedure renals, both who jointly issued that guidance are now working together again under a trump administration. they have been reviewing the guide krantz that was signed and i think there s several he areas
president had very specific goals to enact that he promised the american people, you want to make sure the person fulfilling that job is actually committed to the agenda and vision the president set forth and promised the american people. so there is that s something we re always going to be making smur is in alignment. is the approval process in some what slowing down the appointment of crucial staff. not at all. when you like across where we are we re doing very very well with getting all of these positions filled. i think once in a while you might hear one or two people, but overall generally speaking, i mentioned how much of the beachhead teams we had and those members appointed had 120 days they were there to a i lieu it to make sure a and that s what s happening, but make no mistakes.
we were ahead of the curve on the beachhead teams, very clear with the landing teams, it s been a methodical process than seen from top to bottom through, and i think we re doing a phenomenal job. marta? which marta? oh, luck where me. reporter: i have a [ laughter ] reporter: the president in the roosevelt room just said, among other things that the tax plan is nearly finalized but can t be submitted until the health car plan statutorily what i wanted to clarify, is the white house doing a health care proposal? or was he talking about congress and the white house? obviously there s two vehicles, requisition the bloom better answer, the fy17
reconciliation was never completed, because the budget wasn t finalized in the last congress. i think we want to look at the opportunities and make sure and then you could utilize the 2018 reconciliation to do tax reform. again, that s not prescriptive, but as far as why the president is saying it that way is because we ve got that option available to us right now. i think the president is committed to making sure that the promise that he made to the american people to repeal and replace obamacare continues to be first and foremost, and then his tax plan, but it s not a we can walk and chew gum kind of thing. we can continue to work with the leadership in both houses. reporter: just the bloom birk the time line, there is things that will happen then, there will be a budget plan that you guys are going to present on march 13th-ish? ish. this is where i got lost.
something from him and something from them and then a plan afterwards? look, when we re really to announce i think you have obamacare, the budget, tax reform, a very busy march and april for us, and we continue to work with congress to make sure that it s implemented. noah beerman. he had a complete shutdown of muslims during the campaign. there were a lot of people who thought that was a very good proposal. can you explain his elf lice of backing down from that? and can you say whether he regrets using that rhetoric, since it ended up hurting the court case? again i go back to the merits of the case, and the order that gave him the authority to make that. u.s. code 1182 is very clear. the president was very clear in his executive order that these were countries that we didn t have the proper vetting for when
it came to ensuring the safety of americans. that s what the executive order said. the authority is re clear, and i think you ll continue to see the president take the steps necessary to protect this country. that s why he s talking about fighting this on both fronts, making sure we keep evolving through the court system, and then looking forwards the next draft of the executive order that will continue to achieve the goal of protecting the american people. that s where we are, that s what the order says, and so i think we continue to feel confident that that s but it was crafted in a way that was very clear about the countries and was not focused on anything else but the vetting requirement we have to make sure that we know who is coming into this country and we re here not to do us any harm. talking about fulfilling his promising, can you explain why he decided to back down from that? i think he s made it clear, noah, from the beginning that
this was a country-focused issue, and i don t see anything other than that with reference to that. debra saunders? reporter: is the oscars are for sunday night. will the president be watching? if there s a meryl streep kind of moment, how do you think he ll react? and why this has happened in other award ceremonies. why do you think this happening? why do i think what happens? actors. i have no idea. it s a free country. i think hollywood is known for rather being farther to the left, and i have to be honest, i think the president will be hosting the governors ball, mrs. trump looks forward to putting together a phenomenal event that will welcome our nation s governors to the capitol. i think that s where they ll be focused sunday night. so we ll go from there. reporter: the president has a
big audience next tuesday in the joint and. does he have a sell of goals in mind? do you think we ll see specific policy roll-outs as part of that speech? i think i mentioned this yesterday. i think it s going to talk remind the american people what he s done already, and make sure that he explains to them not just because of a sense of accomplishment in moving the country forward, but because i think it s important for the american people to know he was an agent of change. he came here to get things done, and he didn t waste any time. he committed to keeping hi word, and then i think he ll lay out his vision. the problems that we face as a country, the violence in some of our inner cities, but also some of the solutions that we can act on and some of the partnerships we can create, it s obviously still a work in progress, but i think it will look forward to where he wants to take this
country and talk about working with congress and other leaders throughout the country to get things done, but i think in the drafts i have seen so far, it is going to be a very strong blueprint of where he wants to take this country. in the past i think a lot of presidents or some, rather have gotten into detail spocks. i think you ll see him try to talk about politics, and what defining success is, what that goal means, but it s still a work in progress republican optimistic? yeah, i think this is an opportunity for him to lay out a very positive vision for the nation and really let america know where we can go and how we can get there, and the potential we have as a nation. anita? reporter: will he i know past presidents, including president obama, immediately hit the road but something like the
state of the union address. to sell policies, since it s more of a vision i think there will be some travel. that s evolving right now. there s a lot of things that we re trying to look at, and i think as we look at the speech and some of the objectives and goals and vision that he s sharing, talk to him about potential places to go to highlight that, but i think you re going to see a fair amount of visits in the next few weeks to highlight some of the places that he wants to take it. reporter: i ve seen members of congress last we re, there s the legislative meeting today. it feels as if we haven t seen as many executive actions or executive orders. i know we have the one vetting coming out this week. are we in a different phase that he s sort of done the executive orders he wants to do? no, we have several in the pipeline, and part of it is just you know, these days are
focused with these meetings and getting things done, and trying to plan ahead. so as we see fit, and as the implementation process of a lot of these goes through the process, we ll have future plenty more. fimplgts legislative emphasis now? it s both. part of this is we work through congress, aknit :we re talking about fundamental tax reform, something that happened since 1986. the repeat and replacement of obamacare, which is mammoth. i think part of it is those things take time. he has a joint address on tuesday. there s a lot of things that are happening, and therefore we need to kind of make sure that we appropriately use the schedule. but i can assure you if you ve missed executive orders, you will see a bunch. i know, i want to do make sure you knew. jonathan karl. at the present time referred to
so-called sangry crowds? is he suggesting this is manufactured anger and this is not real anger and real thanks. i think there s a hybrid there. i think some people are clearly upset, but there is a bit of professional protester manufactured base in there. but obviously there are people that are upset, but i also think that when you look at some of these districts and some of these things, it is it is not a representation of a members district or an incident. it is a loud group, small group of people disrupting something, in many cases for media attention, no offense. just because they re loud doesn t necessarily mean there are many. i think in a lot of cases that s what you re seeing. reporter: not saying there s real anger i just said that. reporter: there s real concern i think that s a false narrative. i don t the president has been very clear, look, you have
to look at what our health care system is right now. in so many counties around our nation we ve gone down to one provider. that s not choice, that s not access and in a lot of cases we re not taking medicare, the doctor you used to have haven t participating anymore and by the way, states like arizona, you have over 100% increase in premiums. many statesi double-digit. and i think that the idea that we have to remember is that the american people got sold the affordable care act. it s neither affordable or accessible. they re losing their coverage and premiums are spiking. if people this should be appl d applauding the president s action for wanting to ensure we have a system in place that does what they were promised a while back. that s what i think is missing from this dialogue. i ve seen some folks protesting, saying i m on obama care and i m
going to lose my thing, and when they asked how old they were, they re not on obamacare, they re on medicaid. they re not making it up, but some are on employer-based insurance, or medicaid or medicare because of their age. so they have no problems. but i think in other cases people are being told the plan they re on is unsustainable, that these carriers throughout the country. look at them over and over again pulling out of the exchanges. the reality is they are losing their health care, but they re losing it under obamacare because the exchanges are collapsing on themselves, carriers are pulling out, so the president s plan is actually going to do exactly what they were promised eight years ago and didn t get. so for those who are worried, the answer is help is on the
way. reporter: what goes tis the ? first, the president made cheer we ll have it out in a couple weeks. the goal is they god it jammed through the democrat-controlled, so taking the time, getting this right to achieve the goss is probably the right thing to do considering the experience we had the last time. hall hallie? reporter: at one point the caitlyn jenner could use whatever bathroom he wanted so why system a priority? i don t think it s a priority. it s not a priority. there is a case pending in the supreme court in which we have to decide whether or not to continue to issue guidance to the court. it s not it s dictated by that. the obama administration a issued joint guidance. we now have to decide whether or not this administration wants to continue that track that they were on. it s plain and simple.
if we don t, but there are problems in the legal and process way in which that guidance was issued. so it s incumbent upon us to actually follow the law and recognize that title ix never talked about this. this was an act in 1972. there was no discussion of this back then. to assume certain elements were thought about back then would be completely preposterous. you think secretary devos is on board with this? yes, is 00%. the second question is on mexico. the secretary of state along with secretary kelly. obviously there have been tensions between did this is this a cleanup job? no, i think the presidents and foreign ministers had several contacts with our staff. i would argue that we have a very healthy and robust relationship with the mexican government and officials. i think, president nieto has
echoed that. i think there s an unbelievable and robust dialogue. thank you. reporter: on syria, the general indicated the u.s. needs to take a larger share of the burden and send troops to syria. has the president discussed this with his national security team? i m going to refer you backs to dod. i would argue you ve seen the president talk about safe harbors in syria with several foreign safe havens, thank you, that s an area at the top of the president s foreign policy agenda that he s continued to talk to leaders especially in the middle east, about trying to make sure we deal with that issue in that area right now. but i m not going to get ahead of the dod on this? look, i will if i have an
update, i will give it to you tomorrow. president trump indicating the prime minister wants the u.s. an canada council for advancement of women entrepreneurs, have you talked a bit about how it s growing? staff is implementing the president s agenda. it occurred six, seven days ago. we ll have further updates, but i know that he continues to be in touch with the prime minister trudeau and our staff continues to do to work on the back end to make this happen. a few questions for you. does the white house not have confidence in its cabinet secretaries if it s looking over their shoulders? does the white house does the president not trust his cabinet secretary? the staff to find people who agree with the president s agenda? not at all. the president named these folks, because they re an unbelievably
qualified individuals. part of is you re attaching major deposition, somewhere in the area of 5,000 positions to fill. i don t even this i the secretaries, to some degree, depending on the department have a full background. as they get pumped through the pipeline. again there are areas that are of key priority to the president that he campaigned on. i think when he wants to make sure that certain of those individuals who are going to be overseeing key priorities, that he promised the american people have somebody who is not only qualified, but agrees with and shares the president s vision to fix whatever problem that was or fulfill whatever vision he articulated, but it would almost be malpractice not to do that, to allow people to fill a job, a political appointee job, who don t share the vision and agenda of the united states,
would it would be silly on its face to suggest this. i don t think there s any administration in past history that would literally willingly take on somebody who is adamantly opposed or spoke on you spefl again what the president was seeking to do it doesn t seem as though it makes any sense. on the we re coming up a week away from the review of the counter-isis strategy. what s the status of that review? a bunch of generals? yes. is that regarding that review? i think general dumbford and secretary mattis have begun providing him updates on that. i know that the new national security adviser is getting brought into that process and continuing to do updates. we ll have further updates, but the team has been working on it. as far as the second executive order is concerned, what is the white house doing differently? in terms of consulting with the
various departments to make certain that the exec executive order passed the constitutional scrutiny? i think we have done a few things. one, we have been very clear about understanding what the court said in trying to tailor that specifically, while achieving the same goals of keeping america safe and ensuring that people don t come into the country that seek to do us harm. and number two, to that order is basically completed. what we are now doing is working with the various agencies and departments to make sure the implementation of that is done in an extremely smooth way. we have looked at it from both a process standpoint, as well as a legal standpoint, and i think it s achieving the goals, but again i would also mention that on the merits, we can see i believe in the first order did just that. it was written in a way, and i think ultimately we ll continue to prevail on that, because it
is written in a way that is clear and consistent with u.s. code and the authority the president has to protect the nation. katy. reporter: as it relates to the executive order, it s almost likely to face a legal challenge. sure. reporter: are you concerned the president s prior remarks as it relates to the judiciary is going to allow him to have a fair hearing by the judicial branch as it relates to the second amendment? yeah, absolutely. i think because i think that you ve seen it happen in the massachusetts case. at the end of the day, you look at the law and what the order does, and i think, again, you may have in the case of the ninth circuit, we continue to disagree with that. i think the president has pointed out, you don t have to be that high up in grade school to recognize what the code says, what the authority that is granted to imhad, and then what the order does. i think the one of the cases they suggested there have been
no people that entered within the seven countries, and with a quick curse so i look there were 20 people that had come in. so the basis on which they decided the case doesn t actually pass muster. i think any judge or judges that look at that order or the one that will be put forward will come to the same conclusion. katie? reporter: i wanted to ask about the budget priorities? where does he see increase or decrease of spending? and how much money is he asking for i m going to refer you back to marta s question. we ll have something in mid-march. look, he just had a meeting where he s continuing to work out, they re providing him back and forth. that s the idea of crafting the budget. until we put it out on paper, i don t want to get ahead sean, thank you very much. back to mexico, officials have
said this morning that they re not going to accept by the white house and by dhs yesterday and they may not taken that s not a mexican immigrant. i think secretary tillerson and secretary kelly will have a great discussion down there and walk through the implementation of the executive order, but i feel very confident that any country who has a citizen that comes into the country and we send back, we ll make sure they comply with this. two questions about immigration at the same time. one, the president has talked a number of times about millions of illegal immigrants casting votes for the election in his mind, promised to looked into that, but there was no mention of that in any of the these directives for these immigrants. does the president still believe he s mentioned that vice president pence will lead the task force, and the vice president is starting to gather names and individuals to be part of it. the other question i have about the daca program yesterday he suggested, well, we have to
go after hardened criminals, major national security threats first, but during the campaign, the president talked about daca as being unconstitutional and executive amnesty. does he still think it s unconstitutional use of president obama s powers? yes, i think the president is very clear about his priorities. yesterday was focused on going after people who are a public safety concern, and we re going to walk through this. we will get back to you on that. right now the focus on keeping the he country safe. wile given all of the personal on deporting of legal immigrants, i wanted to see if this white house and president trump have any interesting in curtailing legal immigration going forward. we have to look at this. there s millions of people in the country illegally. i think the focus continues to be the 800,000 or 900,000 that
already have an torrid to be removed and keep the process smooth. legal immigration is a completely separate subject. the president has talked about that, talked about it with bid leaders h 1 b vhave i visa, but there s a prioritization and we ll have more on it later. i ve got to run. thank you very much. see you tomorrow. take care. so there you have it, sean spicer, the white house press secretary wrapping up his briefing, answering reporters questions for a little more than half an hour. lots of questions were asked, veries important questions. the press secretary didn t completely answer a lot of those questions. we ll assess exactly what we learned, what we didn t learn. i m wolf blitzer in washington. once again we want to welcome our virus in the united states and around the world to help sort all of these important
issues out. there s a lot going on today. let s bring in our chief national security correspondent jim scuitto, laura coates, david greg dorsey, talia polpan. jim, let mea start with you. the new travel ban that s about to be announced, there are several important questions about rhetoric, statements the president as a candidate had made that potentially could complicate implementing round 2 of this travel ban. clearly the white house strategy is to make it just about vetting from country that is have vetting problems, not making it about muslims these are donald trump s words when he announced this during the campaign december 2015. first was statement on preventing muslim immigration, pretty broad there. donald trump is calling for a
total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. that s what he sid during the campaign. that s on the record. even since the election, he s started to focus more on terror, keeping the country safe. you heard sean spicer says this is just about country that is didn t have proper vetting. so the question is, do the courts accept that quite remarkable pivot from the initial public statements, and we know in the ninth circuit case, they mentioned donald trump and the surrogate statements on the campaign trail d it meet the legal standard? that s for the courts to decide. i will note there has been a continues contradiction among donald trump s advisers here, because stephen miller, he was quoted on the air just a short time ago speaking to martha mccollum, if the change are minor and technical, but sean spicer is saying it s a whole different thing, listen it s going to be for the courts to
decide what it is on paper. laura, you re a legal analyst. we did learn that the new travel ban has been completed. they re now going through how best to implement it to make sure that the requirements are fully met, but this issue of a muslim ban, that rhetoric that the president as candidate delivered did you the campaign, how much of a problem is this for getting round 2 approved? if due process is your minor technical point, you have a big uphill battle. remember, the court made very clear, they gave a blueprint in the ninth circuit that essentially said, listen we don t believe in the smoke and mirrors, if this is simply a pretext for discrimination, it violates the first amendment of the constitution, which is not what you can turn off and on if you re the president of the united states based on unfounded or perhaps just a bold assertion
of national security. they re going to have do combat two things, take away the minority religious preference, and also figure out a way to provide some clarity for the court that says there is a reason why the existence vetting measures that we currently have in place are insufficient with respect to these seven countries. if it s because of your campaign rhetoric that will not pass constitutional muster. sara murdray is in the pressroo, the reports came out that the president is micromanaging all the various departments and agencies, vetting individuals that a secretary may want for a senior position, to make sure that those individuals didn t say or do anything contrary to the president s policies, didn t say anything negative about the candidates who have running. reporter: that s right, wolf, we do know this is a president that s been preoccupied for a long time about the notion of
loyalty and he takes any criticism very personally. we ve seen that playing out as these cabinet secretaries are trying to staff their various agencies, that there has been concern coming from the white house about potentially people filling these political appointee slots who have been critical of the president in the past. white house press secretary sean spicer downplayed this today, basically say if you re looking at political appointees, you want people who are supportive of the president and supportive of his priorities as you know there were a number of republicans that might be well qualified for these jobs who weren t necessarily supportive of donald trump early on in the campaign, especially when we are looking at roughly a dozen candidates. one of the concerns we ve been hearing are worries that you will not broadband fill all of these slots of people who are proper loy have the proper level of experience if you re only looking at people who are support i was of donald trump from day one.
the white house as you said is dismissive of this concern, who basically said anyone who will fill a political appointee should be on board 100%. that s an important point indeed. david gress guardino, on the issues of the town hall of republicans that they are now facing, some of them becoming rather loud, a lot of protests going on, citizens complaining, we did hear from sean spicer in response to a question, there seems to be in his word, a hybrid. some people are legitimately upset, they have every right to do so, but some of this is manufactured and there s a lot more noise than there are there seems to been a lot more noise than there seems to be specification issues. in other words it s directed from the outside. i think that s largely true. i don t think the manufactured part is true, but the fact you have some districts with loud resistance, organized resistance, resistance similar
to the tea party, which is that it s coming organically, this time from progressive circles, in some cases being brought in from outside the district, to make a lot of noise, and to be disrupti disruptive. that s what the tea party was in large measure, and it s taking on big questions, are the republicans going to resist where progressives and middle of the roaders think they should. we re getting from the press briefs a lot of policy discussions now that s unsettled policy discussion. this whole debate about obamacare is not going to go well, because it s going to be messy and hard, just as it was when president obama pursued it, it s going to be contentious. that s what i think the town has are legitimately reflecting. you know, tal, he had a photo op with his secretary of treasury, budget director, basically insisting the whole
budget is a mess. he used that word, but he did saysh and we did shear from sean spicer that make by early to mid march, new proposals for health care would be released and new specification budget decisions would be released as well, but the president referred to the whole process right now that he has inherited as a mess. it might look like a mess. folks on capitol hill are sort of waiting with bated breath to see what they get if we have this march dead lining, but there s a lot of things in the budget that s contrary to republican ideological ways. for example he wants a massive border security plan, we re going to build a wall, we re going to hire 15,000 people minimus, plus detention centers. there s very big-ticket items. we re not even talking yet about an infrastructure time, yet at
the same time mick mulvaney is one of the biggest budget hawks that comes out congress. and there s a lot of questions how those two different ideas will work out. s. and who s going to pay for a lot of it. if you take the larger view, the only thing particularly well done is judge gorsuch. that was a hornet s nest because of how they handled judge garland, and all that s correct but all the traps were hit before he got going. the president could have been in a position to roll out some things on tax reform. he could have gotten that ball rolling a lot more seamlessly, hasn t done it yet, hasn t been organized. this focus on immigration has been incredibly questionive, but also not organized. jim, the secretary of homeland security, secretary kelly, the secretary of states
rex tillerson, they ll be meeting with the mexican leadership. they should be arriving in mexico city shortly. there s been various descriptions of what their mission is right now. clearly there are some serious strains because of the president s repeated assertion that the u.s. is going to build this border wall and mexico will pay for it. apparently kelly and tillerson will propose that mexicans detain of course a burden for mexico in lights of the accusatory language, to say the least used by the president. you had sean spicer there in his words say we have a healthy and rho robust relationship with mexico. i wonder certainly if some strains have leaked out about paying for the wall, so we ll see if tillerson and kelly kelly had a long time working with mexicans as chairman of southern command, so he s been
partners with them in the antidrug war, et cetera, do the personal relationship, tillerson s well-known diplomatic skills, does that get over an enormous hump by the president remains to be seen, and the ask they re going with is a pretty dramatic ask to make of someone you re not having the warmest relationship right now. another sensitive issue, laura, the issue of transgender bathrooms, the press secretary was asked a few times, what is the administration s stance on this? does it differ from the obama administration? he said further guidance would be released later today. it is a sensitive issue for the department of education. it is. what happened a couple years ago you had this issue of the fourth circuit of a student in virginia, gavin graham who is trying to use the bathroom of the sex he identified with. you had the president issuing guidance saying, listen, i m going to assist the public schools around the country to
figure owl hoe we should sensitively treat people who are transgender, the civil rights division backed them up, and essentially the department of education said title ix guards against sex discrimination. we didn t talk about transgender identity being sex, but it s the same thing we re talking about protecting people. well, the supreme court will now hear the case march 28th, because the fourth circuit set we re going to rely on the president, president obama s guidance at that time. so if trump then reverses that guidance, even if it s for benign reasons, which he has suggested that it is, the court may send it right back to the lower courts and say because you relied on that guidance, it no longe arer exists this could be a very lengthy court procedure and an affront for civil rights that s happened for the lbgt population. you heard sean spicer saying the president is a strong
believer in states rights, and that would be a sensitive issue as far as this supreme court decision is concerned. it will be. it s not just whether the federal government should have a role, or is this a states rights constitution which would be a constant battle between federalism and different administrations. that s the theory, but when it comes down to it title 9:00 does guard against sex discrimination. gender identify is about sex discrimination. it s a civil rights issue. we we know about the uproar in north carolina as a result of the ex-governor there. everybody stand by. we re getting more reaction coming in. ted lu of california is with us. we re going to get his reaction of what we heard from the white house. some of those fiery town has. congressman, stay with us. we ll be right back. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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right now constituents across the nation are extending republican lawmakers that they are not happy. outside a town hall event for mitch mcconnell, people lined for miles carrying signs protesting many of the new policies. other republican lawmakers are on town has later today, including ryan costello, senator dean heller, and bill cassidy of louisiana. they re hoping to avoid scenes like these. we wrecked our economy with our rulations last i heard these coal jobs are not coming back. now they don t have the insurance they need because they re poor, and they worked the coal mines, and they re sick, the vet advance are sick, the vet advance are broken down, they re not getting what they need. if you can answer any of that,
i ll sit down and shut up like elizabeth warren. the insurance no, what percentage let me finish my answer, please. i m going to answer the question. when will you be defunding planned parenthood? are you willing to cross party lines to make things work for everyone in your constituency? i cross party lines all the time. last week i was the single do you want to be poor or richer? that is the [ crowd yelling ] i would like to answer questions. president trump weighed in with this tweet. i d read it to you the so-called angry crowds are actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. sad with an exclamation point. meantime president trump is sending two of his top
lieutenants to mexico. secretary of state rex tillerson will get there later today and joined by secretary kelly. they ll be meeting with president nieto as between the two presidents, but secretaries kellie and tillerson hope to move past that as they engage the mexican government on border security, immigration and trade and of course the wall that the president wants to build along the border. house speaker ryan is paying a visit to the mexican border, there along with other republicans as they view the area of trump s promised border wall, coming up with a roughly $20 billion expected to take to builds that wall. let me bring in a democrat, a
member of the foreign affairs committee and subcommittee on homeland security. thanks for joining us. thank you, wolf. you heard sean spicer say the u.s. and mexico have a robust healthy relationship right now, do you agree with that assessment? thank you, donald trump is afraid people are going to watch cnn, you must be doing something right. thank you for reporting real news. to your question, sean spicer is lying again. he said relations are phenomenal, that is false. there have been protests, and just introduced legislation to say they are not going to buy u.s. corn, they are at one of the worst points in u.s.-mexican history. they re going to be having high level meetings, spicer also
said it was an important trip but pushed back on what you re suggesting, he said they re going to try to mend some fences with mexico but this is clearly a critical moment, i assume you agree? absolutely. this is not the first time this has happened when president trump offended the prime minister of australia, we had republican u.s. senators call the ambassador to try to mend fences, now we re sending two secretaries to try to clean up the mess. the white house says everyone who is here illegally undocumented immigrants here in the united states everyone is subject to removal but also say the enforcement guidelines are not meant the facilitate mass deportations, you re response? having come to the united states as an immigrant i find the administration s actions
offensive, unamerican and cruel, and it s going to separate children from their parents, break apart families and at least under george bush we had compassionate conservative, this is cruel conservetism, and is going to lead tomas deportations and that is not good for america and i hope people see about what s to happen and we stop it. but the president is letting the so-called dreamers brought here as young kids by their parents from other countries an they have grown up here in the united states the only country they know, he says the daca provisions will remain in affect. you re pleased by that? i am, but they could also deport their parents of these daca students and i m not pleased with that. this is all based on a ultimate reality of facts, it s been negative since 2007 that means
more mexicans have left america than entered. and studies show documented and undocumented commit less crimes than people born in america. let me quickly get your reaction to president trump s tweet that a lot of unrest is being caused by liberal activists, sean spicer basically said the same thing in his briefing saying that the anger that the media is showing is not necessarily genuine, what s your response to that? these protests at these town halls are continuation of the massive backlash against president trump starting january 21st with the women s march, then at the airports and now at the town halls and i think it s sad that the president of the united states is ignoring the concerns of the americans. thanks for joining us. thank you. so who will lead the
democratic party in the era of a new president. the debate they debate tonight live on cnn at 10:00 p.m. eastern, chris cuomo and dana bash are the moderators. the visit is meant to ease tensions between trump s administration and mexican president, tillerson s state department is responsible for explaining u.s. foreign policy to the country indeed to the world through daily press briefings, but they haven t held one since president trump took office back on january 20th, tony blink en is with me. it s been a month now and there s been no daily state department briefing. that s right. to the news media, no on-camera briefings, sthrthere
spokesman, but it s pretty unusual to be this long not hearing from the state department? it is, and it takes an important mega phone out of our hands. this is the way to explain policy and clarify policy, i think there s probably good reason for it and that s that it s unclear what the police is, it s hard to know what to say when there s this dysfunction in the national security process. to date the right people haven t been brought around the table in the situation room, secretary of state, chairman of joint chiefs and others normally when you have a normal process everyone gets around the same table, debate the policy, decide the policy an everyone speaks with one voice. that hadn t been happening. presumably a state department spokesperson could go out there
and say something contradictory within minutes? yes. the vice president and the secretary of homeland security and they did a good job in i think reassuring europeans except no one in europe could tell what exactly represented the administration s policy and i think secretary tillerson is under the same challenge. all the senior positions that just below that of secretary of state are unfilled. assistant secretaries their vetting people presumably reviewing the process but you have temporary career diplomats filling in some of those spots. that s exactly right. it s not the same thing as having a full time when he s off going to mexico which is a good thing who is back in the white house representing the state department when they re
talking policy? assuming they re even convened in that room. he s there to protect the interest of the department to make sure it s fully represented. what s wrong with what the white house says, they are political appointees, they don t want those who criticize donald trump during the extent of the campaign, i m sure that the obama administration didn t want critics. on one hand there s nothing wrong with that and the president is entitled to have his people so is the secretary of state, but two things what s going on and i think a new problem with the national security adviser has to get his arms around is while the nfc has been operationing you see other competing power centers rising, you have mr. bannon apparently
maki making with russia, even mexico, a bunch of freelancers presenting peace plans for ukraine around behind the back of the national security council. unless regular order is re-established and that really is mr. mcmaster s job it s going to be hard for anyone to make policy and doubly difficult because our partners around the world don t know who to listen to. you served and became deputy secretary of state. i assume you re reassured that general mcmaster is now the national security adviser. he s a first rate pick and everything he s done whether it was on the battlefield or thinking and writing about national security, i think it s hard to find anyone who has anything negative to say about him, i hope one of conditions he took about taking the job was it

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it sells for just over $2,300. that comes out to about $2 a beer. up to you. buy it if you want. celebrate. i m sandra smith. here s harris faulkner in for shepard smith. after a victory, republicans are getting ready for the next battle over healthcare in america. it won t be easy. with one republican senator saying it has zero chance of moving forward. others say it has a bumpy road ahead. we ll have updates from capitol hill and the white house. when chris wallace joins me, i ll ask him how people feel about the changes proposed so far. unemployment just hit its lowest level in a decade. what it means for our economy and your money. are two of the planets most dangerous nations about joining forces? a connection with iran and north kor
korea. and who is trying to kill kim jong-un? the assassination accusation. it s friday. time for the news. i m harris faulkner in today for shepard smith. you might call it a healthcare hangover. some bracing for changes to a republican healthcare bill that is just barely a day old. it s headed to the senate, as you know. the deputy press secretary said the president expects changes, but wants the main pillars to remain the same. some republican senators have announced they re not going to support the measure without major adjustments. as we watched on fox news, the white house celebrated with a news conference at the rose garden. the house passed the measure 217 to 213. somebody noticed cases of beer being wheeled out through the hall. no some say it could get bumpy. lamar alexander said we ll be writing our own bill. the senate could use the house
measure as a resource for ideas. moderate republican senators have criticized one of the major provisions for rolling back the expansion under obamacare. conservative senators say it doesn t go far much the to replace obamacare. so it works this way. the house passed it, the senate will do its own dance. if changes are made, it goes back to the house for approval. the president declared victory on twitter today. big win in the house, very exciting. when everything comes together with phase two, we ll truly have great healthcare. last night hours after the vote, he said this is a great plan that is a repeal and replace of obamacare, make no mistake about it. john roberts is live for us outside the white house. obviously. good to see you, john. good to see you, harris. there s a phase 3 the president didn t talk about in the tweet. he s trying to take this a bite at a time.
he got phase 1 through the house and now looking at phase 2 and needs to get phase 1 through the senate. as you pointed out, yesterday was about the celebration. this is where the process is going next. the president optimistic that he can get this thing through the senate. the big question is, what is it going to look like when it eventually gets through the senate. there s some people on the republican side saying, you know what? i like what the house did. but we re going to do our own bill and start from scratch on all of that. at the briefing a short time ago, i asked the principal deputy who made her debut. let s listen in. on the process of getting the american healthcare act through the senate, there s some talk they may have to go back to the drawing board. it s a heavy left getting the hda through the house. does the president expect the process in the senate could be even more difficult? i think that the one thing that you can be sure of is to never underestimate this president. he s shown time and time again
when he s committed to something, it s going to get done. he s made no secret. he s committed to reforming the healthcare system. you ll see that process take place. the main pillar that sarah huckabee sanders was talking about, quality healthcare, access to healthcare and a lower price and more consistencconsis. people are waiting to see in the next phase, the idea of going across state lines for your healthcare. we ll watch for that. what did the white house have to say about how the bill handles people with pre-existing conditions? this is a big question that a lot of critics have. the way it s crafted, it allows states to seek a waiver from the mandates of essential healthnd conditions. the president has said on repeated occasions that it absolutely has to cover pre-existing conditions to people that already have an illness have to have access to healthcare. that s one of the reasons why
fred upton of michigan and billy long of missouri came to the white house the other day, because they shared the same concerns. they came up with the plan that would designate a pot of money towards premium support for people with pre-existing conditions. sarah huckabee sanders on that point. one of the biggest priorities of this bill particularly for the president was ensuring that people with pre-existing conditions were protected. the final bill added an additional $8 billion to go a step further. the big question is whether or not $8 billion is enough to cover all the people that had pre-existing conditions. the white house suggesting, harris, the number of people that go into premium support could be very small compared to the overall population. you know what? i want you to stay where you are. we want more from john roberts. the labor department says the jobless rate hit the lowest point in a decade last month. the feds say unemployment was 4.4% in april.
i m working with john thune on an amendment to address that right now. medicaid, we have to make sure it works for the states that took the expansion. ohio senator rob portman not pulling any punches saying he has serious issues with the house bill. he said i already made clear i don t support the bill as constructed because i can t to have concerns that this bill doesn t do enough to protect ohio s medicaid expansion population and those receiving treatment for heroin and prescription drug abuse . there s 52 republicans in the senate. portman and just about everybody else is really important, harris. the american public that voted like single issue on this is kind of anticipating that this is how it works, right? they go around around make some changes. people are not talking about are the democrats and all of the bipartisanship that they talked
about was possible in all of this. it will be i m curious to see how it works out. what is next in the senate? bottom line, those that have been talking about healthcare, i m told they ve talked for months on the senate side and what they ll do when they get a bill from the house of representatives. those involved in the talks say they re looking forward to getting cracking. we ll move ahead with deliberate speed. we re doing that because exchanges are collapsing and people could be without insurance, premiums go up if we don t act. but we want to get it right. there s no artificial deadlines. we ll carefully consider the legislation passed by the house. we heard about democrats talking about improving obamacare. some democrats said they re willing to talk with republicans about improvement if not quite repeal and replacement of obamacare. it s important to get it into the senate. if we take healthcare seriously, we ll put the bill in the
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changes. i want your view on what people should be bracing for or ready for. well, there s going to be winners and losers. let s make it clear at the start. this is assuming that the house bill becomes the law. it won t become the law as you just reported. there will be changes in the senate. assuming what was passed by the house yesterday became the law, there would be winners and losers. young healthy people would be better off. their premiums would go down. older people, their premiums would go up. people with pre-existing conditions, it s not clear. they would have more to worry about than under obamacare, whether it was a flat regulation, you could not charge people with pre-existing conditions any more than people that did have the conditions. harris: i asked our team here to get a list. this will vary by state. lupus, alcohol abuse, alzheimer s, arthritis.
the list is long in pre-existing conditions and could vary by states for the reasons that you spoke of. a last word on that and then we ll move on. a lot we don t know in this in the house bill because of the fact that some states would decide to live by the federal mandates that will continue to ban any discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions. but there s state waivers. if states can justified to the federal government, they can drop out of a lot of these things, pre-existing conditions, essential health benefits. there s this insurance mandate under obamacare that everything from mental health to maternity care, all have to be covered in every insurance policy. if states decide to take the waiver, they can say we ll take this part of the essential benefits and drop them. and an insurance company in oklahoma can say we re not going to live by the essential benefits in oklahoma. we re going to take the
essential benefits in arizona. so it really is going to be a very different and much more checkered playing field than what you have under obamacare. harris: sure. then you have the players like rand paul, the senators, ted cruz that said you have to repeal it all and start over. you have mayor key people that we need to watch. you have lisa murkowski of alaska that doesn t like the medicaid point. let s talk about the six or seven senators to keep our eye on and what we re watching for. on the one hand, you have the hardliners. rand paul, ted cruz, mike lee. they were quiet yesterday. they didn t say it doesn t go far enough. in the past they have said they don t want government regulation of healthcare. even with this bill, with all the changes, repeal and replace, a lot of government regulation of healthcare. so it will be interesting to see how far they re willing to go or are they going to push for more.
on the other hand, you have more moderate people, like lisa murkowski of alaska. harris: susan collins. she s another one. yeah. particularly in states that agreed to the medicaid expansion, which meant that people that previously haven t been covered by medicaid now were because they were above an income level. they re worried medicaid expansion will be rolled back if the house bill becomes law and they have hundreds of thousands of constituents in their states that have healthcare coverage under obamacare that would lose it with the roll back of medicaid expansion. they re not going to want to see that happen. that really gets tough. that is one of the things that absolutely had to happen in the house. remember, whatever the senate comes back with and dramatically different than the house, then they have to find a way to reconcile in a conference committee the senate version and the house version. as we saw the house version, which is more conservative than
the senate version, it passed with one vote. anything to change the bill changes the balance of power in the house. harris: so those are potentially republicans on the bubble. what about democrats? anybody that could be pulled over? there s some that are talking about it. john tesser of montana, some of the conservative democrats, particularly those that are facing re-election in states that donald trump won facing re-election in 2018 in the mid-terms. i have to tell you, there s not been a democrat so far that has gone with this. yes, i understand that it s hard to oppose president trump in a state that he carried if you re a democrat. on the other hand, it s hard to go something called obamacare repeal and replace if you re a democrat. you ll lose a lot of your own voters in your state. harris: while you were talking, president trump tweeted this out. of course the australians have better healthcare than we do.
everybody does. obamacare is date but healthcare will soon be great. this has just gone out. we ve been keeping up with him, as we all do. especially on a friday afternoon after his deputy press secretary has spoken to the media. we get new information. i want the get your response to that before i let you go. yeah, well, what this is about is that yesterday in his meeting with the australian prime minister, the president said well, i have to admit you have better health insurance now than we do. he went on to say but ours will get better after this repeal and replace. the key there, this is what people like bernie sanders noted, the australian plan is single payer like in britain and canada. while the president and his people are saying, he was being polite to the prime minister, they re saying, well, yeah, single player government-run healthcare is better than any system than we ll have under obamacare repeal and replace.
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are sharing information about their missile programs. earlier this week iran tried and failed to launch a missile under water and failed. it was the first time they tried to do that and said the submarine system was based on a north korean system. let s bring in general jack keane, a fox news military analyst. general, thanks for joining us today. glad to be here. harris: how concerned are you about these two in particular getting together and is this evidence strong in your point of view? oh, yeah. overwhelmingly so. this is a 20-plus year close relationship. the iranians are following the north korean playbook about as close as you can. the north koreans in the 90s negotiated to us, lying about their nuclear intentions. they went back to developing a
nuclear weapon. in 2003, they declared they had it. the iranians saying they re only building nuclear power for energy, not weapons. they had secret sites. what happened in iran, we found them because of informants. they were exposed. they followed the exact playbook. their missiles are exact replicas by and large of north korean missiles. their nuclear technology is north korean technology. they both want to have nuclear weapons to be sure. the iranians have never given up on that. they both want ballistic missile s and fire them from the surface and subsurface. north korean is leading the technology effort on all of that. harris: general, the american public has been told to believe there s so many immediate imminent threats. first it was the islamic state
savages. talk about the urgency now and the reporting that we re also witnessing in this era about iran and north korea. well, iran, i believe, is a major threat in the middle east. middle more so than radical islamics that are a clear threat. we see the evidence of that all the time. they run around the world killing people. the iranians are a more serious threat. they have conventional military, they have missiles, developing ballistic missiles and they want a nuclear weapon. according to the deal that the previous administration made, they are likely to get nuclear weapons unless this administration puts a stop to it. so yes, that is a major concern for us. the iranians threat in the middle east and the north korean threat in the far east and our bases and our allies also a major threat to us. harris: are you confident that president trump gets this? i want to talk with you about the news that he dropped. that is that he s getting ready
to make his first trip as president overseas and he s going to the middle east. the very place you re talking about right now. how does that inform you about the confidence that you may have in this president moving forward? first of all, he absolutely gets the danger of both of these threats. all of his national security advisers have been speaking out about the threats. obviously the president put the military option back on the table and is negotiating with the chinese. that s a plus. this trip to the middle east is a big deal. he making a statement that the middle east is a priority for me. he s going to make a statement that i have israel s back and i have the sunni arab s back in the middle east and we re going to stand up against radical islam and counter the iranians. that is not the position of the previous administration. that is going to be so well-received by our allies. the israelis doubted the previous administration s commitment. the sunnis were convinced that
the united states had moved away from their previous security commitment. what about the president s authorization of this military to do what it needs to do? i have to let you go quickly but not without asking you about that. what is difference between now and what we previously had? it s about trust in confidence in our commanders to do things within their conflict area, let them make the decisions. they don t have to ask permissions. they have the resources and capabilities and great troops. leave them alone. judge them by their results. couldn t be better. harris: general jack keane, thanks for joining us with your expertise. good talking to you. a u.s. navy seal was killed in a fierce gun bat until somalia. this comes after a time when u.s. forces are in harm s way all over the middle east. president trump is encouraging more aggressive military action in the region and we just reported he s going there. he wants to wipe out terrorist
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u.s. commanders say they got the authority to launch yesterday s operation during the obama administration. an interesting note as well. leland vittert is live at the pentagon. clearly something went very wrong during this overnight raid. the pentagon is not sure what it was. they were targeting a compound that al shabaab used to launch attacks against americans and other targets inside africa in general. reuters is reporting that the real target was a leader that played a key role in an attack on a local university in kenya that had 150 dead. most of the dead christians. a $5 million bounty on his head. the seals were advising soldiers and flew in by helicopter 40 miles east of the capitol. early during this assault, down
on the coast is when they took heavy fire and the american died. we first and foremost want to express our deepest condolences and deepest appreciation for all of the men and women in the military. now, the pentagon says they still don t know if the mission was a success in terms of kill and capture for the al shabaab leader that they were looking for. we have a lot of history in somalia. this is the first american combat death in somalia since 1993. leland, thank you. the political panel is here. sarah linty, from the national security council under condoleezza rice. and david defury, a former state department official. good to have you both. sarah, this is interesting because what happened yesterday
was actually kind of a leftover in terms of authorization from the obama administration. but definitely what happens going forward, president trump is taking a very different path in places like somalia. he is. he turned military operations over to the pentagon, to be left to their discretion. in my humble opinion, this is a good thing. when it comes to difficult tactical operations, i think decisions are best made in the hands of military professionals like secretary defense mattis. it s a pivot. harris: what is interesting, david, president obama, formerly, was often criticized for not being clear about what his brand of foreign policy was with regard to some of these nations and certainly fighting isis and others in that part of the world. we heard him spill out words like j.v. team. i don t want to go far down that road, but i want your idea on
how much more on point do you think that this current president is and your opinion on that. look, this change in approach may be a welcome one. i traveled to iraq frequently. special forces that we have there that are fighting isis in iraq often chased about the rules of engagement with a cagey opponent like isis that makes all sorts of changes in strategy. it s good for the war fighters on the ground to have discretion about how they will fight back against isis and how they re going to defeat isis. that s a positive. i agree that president obama was slow to create a plan for fighting isis, but actually in the last year of his administration and certainly towards the end of his administration, he was doing a very good job of fighting isis. he planned the campaign to liberate mosul. that s going well. we re pretty close to pushing isis out of iraq. they remain in two cities other than mosul. we will be successful there.
so let s continue that plan. the loosening of rules of engagement can be a positive. it s important to have some restrictions on the military to make sure we don t have is a civilian deaths. if we lose the war of ideology, we will lose the war against isis. harris: so there was a lot in what you just said that was critical and in defense of the former president. let s toss up the current president s words about what you call a loosening and what others see a broadening in terms of how much he s listening to our generals. this is what the greatest military in the world and their done their job as usual. they have total authorization. that s what they re doing. that s why they ve been so successful lately. if you look at what has happened over the last eight weeks in compare that to what has happened the last eight years, you ll see there s a tremendous difference. harris: i love shep.
they let the president say it instead of me, which is good. let s talk about that authorization now that is different. i want to go back to you, sarah. president obama was criticized for not listening to hisnerals. is president trump doing that? well, i want to go back to 2013 when there was a chemical weapons attack in syria and president obama s team did not act. they dithered. what we saw a month ago in syria was the president making a decision, turning it over to the military that affected effectively, efficiently and got out. it was a stellar example of what i think we re going to see. more of what we ll see under this administration. so i think we saw i play out a month ago and we ll so i it heretofore. harris: that flies in the face of what you said, david, this could save lives in terms of military and civilians, we would hope, too, because it s
more pinpoint. get in, get out. your thoughts. one of the biggest mistakes of president obama was not acting in syria in 2013. i agree. president trump was right to do the missile strikes that he did a month ago. but it s still confusing what the president plan is for syria. it s confusing as to whether his policy is for assad to step down or not. it should be that as sad should step down. we should be using force in syria. you know, we re supposedly sending more troops to syria, taking the fight to the assad regime and to isis. let s see how this goes. so far the president has waffled a little bit on syria. harris: it is interesting as we look at the situation with north korea and around the world and people think this president is serious about using firepower. that s one thing that syria did prove that he will do it. thanks very much. we ll have you back another day. thanks for your time. north korean officials, speaking of which, accusing the cia of
plotting with south korean intelligence to assassinate kim jong-un with some sort of biochemical weapon. according to a state from the north s ministry of state, agents bribed a north korean and turned him into a terrorist of revenge against the supreme leadership of the people s democratic leader of north korea. this comes after mike pompeo visited the capitol. and as tensions rise. greg palkot is live with more. greg? hi, harris. it s far-fetched. but if it had happened, we would have had a front row seat. kim jong-un, the leader of north korea, was supposed to have been targeted at a military parade last month, which we attended. according to the story, the cia and the south korean counterpart said to turn a man over, pay him
off and gear him up and arm him with a dirty bomb containing radioactive material and then kill the leader of this very public event. we speak with a spokesperson for the cia. they declined to comment on the report. we spoke to an expert. he said it s all propaganda. we can tell you security was pretty tight at that event. it s not completely outlandish. we have seen reports of u.s. military exercises that they call the decaptation of the regime. that is practicing to go to pyongyang and do something like this. also, the experts say that probably the best way for the regime to fall might be an internal coup, probably while kim jong-un is perhaps so ruthless and a little bit paranoid. back to you, harris. harris: thanks, greg. the notorious drug lord el chapo is complaining about hallucinations and the exercise
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it could be a year before notorious drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman gets his day in court. today he went before a fell federal judge in brooklyn. his attorneys are complaining about his living conditions. they say the drug lord is hallucinating, hearing music while in solitary confinement. the other complaints, the jail s exercise bike faces away from the tv and he s not allowed to see his wife. federal officials say the restrictions are necessary because he escaped prison twice in mexico. one time there an underground tunnel. trace gallagher is live with more.
it s hard to pity anybody who has done what he s done allegedly, trace. and harris, you mentioned that he never sees his wife. today his wife was in court and our producener the courtroom said he spent a lot of time looking at her. he wore head phones during the hearing to hear the translation and the first order was business is to make sure that he was aware of a potential conflict of interest. turns out his current lawyers work in the same building with attorneys that represented witnesses that may testify against him. el chapo told the judge that he was happy with his current legal time. his lawyers did complain when they visited him in a federal jail, they have to stay behind thick plexiglass. that makes it hard for them to go over documents with him. experts say for safety purposes, it s unlikely that they will be allowed in the same cell. for now, el chapo spends 23 hours a day in a windowless cell, an hour in an exercise cell and he s not happy with the
placements of the television. he says the air conditioning is erratic and he seas the guards don t speak spanish. amnesty has said his jail conditions are cruel and degrading. critics have pointed out he s escaped twice and believed to have brutally killed dozens of people. harris: exactly. trace gallagher, thanks very much. president trump is spending the week at his summer white house in new jersey. he arrived last night in bed minister about an hour west of manhattan. hosting the leader of the free world is not easy. the town has 15 police officers. they say they re making it work and we ll see how things are being adjusted and how he s adjusted. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should ve done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness,
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harris: president trump is spending the weekend at his golf club in jersey an hour west of manhattan. he s doing new yorkers and all american as favor. rather than causing a big disruption in new york city, i ll be working in my home in new jersey. save the country money. and from one jersey mom to another person, hello. hello to you, harris. he s saving the city of new york money as far as the sleepovers are concerned. the township of bedminster is going to take a hit but not for too long. the secret service is in charge of the overall operation using local resources to protect the president with state police and other regional law enforcement agencies. this why know. but bedminster which has a
population under 9,000 has a police force of 16 officers which is including police chief. as the mayor told us, an average weekend of the presidential visit will cost the township about $42,000. that may not sound like much if you re in new york city or florida for those costs, but for a town like bedminster, each visit is 1/2% of our budget. not police budget or overtime budget but total town budget. okay. so this sleepy rural community will be getting some relief. president trump signed a budget bill today that will target $61 million to reimburse local law enforcement to protect the president whether his in palm beach, new york or bedminster. while not every resident is happy about the high profile neighbor, one says it s great. one local deli owner says he s ready to name a hero after the commander-in-chief. let him come in. he can order a sandwich and it
will be named after him. so what he orders, it will be named after him? that s the way this started back in 82. so we could have a president trump sandwich? absolutely. yes. hasn t happened yesterdt. we ll let you know. harris: have a great weekend. back after this. natural cheese on one side, and sweetness on the other. new sargento sweet balanced breaks, find it in our cheese section. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby.
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today officials authorize today know. trump supporters complaining about the source of leaks rather than the substance of the leak, jim sciutto. reporter: a source close to ambassador susan rice tells me the claims she improperly unmasked u.s. citizens caught up in surveillance is in a word false coming from ambassador rice, but i ve also spoken to senior intelligence officials from democratic and republican administrations to ask them about the process of unmasking. is it unusual, illegal? and the answer is usually no, not unusual, not illegal. they say a couple of things, one the law allows it, two for it to happen the official requests,
the intelligence community has to approve it, it is often times approved because that official wants to provide more information as they are reading intelligence report they want to know more about the significance, that is shared between the briefer. it s possible that official could do that him or herself but by nature of it it is only exchanged one to one. there are open questions how extensive was the unmasking, what was the source, but this practice is not unusual, it happens, and two, it certainly is not illegal. there are protocols for the unmasking under certain rules. thanks to jim sciutto. we have to apologize we used
video that was conda lee za rice. that was a snafu. sorry, everybody. trump officials were incidentally surveilled, listen. i know nothing about this. i was surprise today see reports from chairman nunes on that count today. okay. so a lot about the credibility here of susan rice said there on pbs news hour she knew nothing of this, surprised of it in the context she misled the public from the benghazi attack due to an internet video, there is some questions about her credibility related to truth with the american people. let us know what you think about
that the web of this, his associates and seems to be spreading this morning. a russian connected to vladimir putin and founder of black water security prince. on the indian ocean the sources saying the meeting was used for a back channel communication between the kremlin and president-elect trump. eric was not part of the transition, but has ties to the circle, including steve bannon, betsy devos secretary of education. he calls it a quote complete fabrication. the house intelligence committee plans to meet at noon today. the committee convened last
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if three just three balk at the idea, the change would not have enough to pass the gorsuch nomination could be blocked. stand by, because this will tell us everything we need to know about how this congress can work together forward police reforms could be in jeopardy, jeff sessions ordering review of troubled departments. he wants to make sure they don t conflict with the president s goal of safety and fighting violent crime. investigations into law enforcement agencies is enforcing 14 consent decrees. the white house kills off a series of obama era privacy rules. president trump did it. signed into law a repeal of protections that would have required internet service providers get your permission
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kergst kergstan. the investigation moves from the who to the how and why and investigators will find out whether he acted on his own. that is another fire truck pulling up behind me. now the people looking an standing what s unfolding here standing by this memorial that has grown in size less than 24 hours ago when this attack happened. thousands of flowers, dozens if not hundreds of candles, to pay respects of dozens killed injured in the attack. the russian president vladimir putin paid his respects last night.
could have been a lot worse. orrin thank you. the driver kept going so he knew they would be able to help the injured people better if he was at the station. 18 minutes past the hour. the president s son-in-law expanding his portfolio to iraq. we re live with that trip to iraq, what s on the agenda and what else is on his plate. like never before. with hyaluronic acid it plumps and quenches. delivers natural, flawless coverage that treats skin to 24 hours of hydration. this is what makeup s been missing. hydro boost hydrating tint. neutrogena® see what s possible. i wanted to know where i did my ancestrydna.
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includes advising the president, brokering middle east peace, restore the department of veterans affairs and help end drug addiction and shadowing the secretary of state at maintaining relations with mexico, canada and china. is that all. and now add iraq to the list. he is there meeting with the iraq s prime minister leading a coalition on the fight against isis. sean spicer said he was there at the invitation of the chairman of joint chiefs and said he wanted to see what was going on for himself. reporter: as if he didn t have enough to do already why not add iraq to the portfolio of your long responsibilities. he was taking part in meetings with chairman of joint chiefs of staff in addition to steven townsend who leads the
international coalition against isis. they were meeting with iraqi prime minister, discussing the battle for mosul which at the moment has reached a difficult point where there is street to street house to house fighting, mounting civilian casualties and talked about the future of the involvement of united states in iraq after isis is destroyed whether it s going to maintain some sort of presence. obviously there are some ruffled feathers that need to be smoothed in iraq keeping in mind mr. trump as candidate and as president suggested that the united states might have a future opportunity to take iraq s oil, it was included the first travel ban proposed by president trump in the second version issued now on hold because of the courts. iraq was removed. many iraqis, despite all that,
seem to admire mr. trump, see him as a strong man, we have reported on iraqis who named their babies after trump, restaurants after trump, so mr. kushner though he s no new territory not necessarily hostile. when a person s son-in-law is treated with respect and listened to, that s just the way it is in some places. thank you so much. nice to see you. the national hockey lead at odds with players decision not to participate in the 2018 winter olympics, they usually pause for a couple weeks, but a league in a statement says the majority of owners were adamantly opposed to sending the players to games saying they would no longer reimburse the cost of travel and insurance
calling it short sided exactly i would share that sentiment. short sided. redemption for north carolina winning the national championship a year after losing the title on a buzzer-beater beating gonzaga 71-65, it was close they tell me. this is the sixth national championship that north carolina s storied history. it set off a wild celebration, this time lapsed video of fans swarming the streets in chapel hill to celebrate. congratulations to the cnn tar heels. brooke baldwin did well, kate baldwin wins the cnn brackets.
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examine changes made under the previous administration? i think it s fair to say changes are being done across the government. that s they re agenda. welcome back. congrats to the tar heels. 4:31 eastern time. the constant drip, drip, drip between trump administration and russian associates. now the president doing his best to make unmasking sound illegal fighting off a barrage of tweets seemed at cooking up a scandal to distract from what might be a real one. all this began with a fox news report that a high ranking obama official requested the unmu unmasking of those caught in surveillance. naming president obama s national security adviser susan rice as the official requesting the unmasking, what are we
talking about? unmasking is not the same as leaking. unmasking is revealed to officials only authorized to know. the leak of the susan rice information has the president trying to stir the pot. more on unmasking and response from susan rice let s bring in jim sciutto. reporter: a source close to susan rice tells me the claims she improperly unmasking names of u.s. sincitizens caught up i surveillance is false coming from ambassador rice, but i ve talked to both democratic and
republican administration to ask about unmasking, one they say the law allows it, two, for it to happen the official requests it but the u.s. intelligence committee has to approve the request, often times it is approved because that official wants to provide more information, as they re reading intelligence report they want to know more about what it means, that information is only shared between the briefer from the intelligence community and that official, it s not more widely disseminated. it s possible that the official could do that him or herself, but by nature only exchanged one to one, how extensive was the unmasking, but this i know from speaking to intelligence officials is that this practice is not unusual, it happens and
there are protocols specifically established after 9/11 to allow for unmasking under certain rules. thank you. susan rice was asked last month that trump officials were incidentally surveilled during the transition here is what she said. i know nothing about this. i was surprised to see reports from chairman nunes today. that certainly speaks to the credibility of susan rice as does the whole benghazi situation where she misled the american public with an internet video, she s going to have to speak to why she was surprised and the exact question was what? unintentional surveillance of trump transition officials. it was very direct and very spot on this subject. not about the obama administration wiretapping?
correct. also, why did she ask for the unmasking? was it in the interest of national security or purely politics. or maybe she wanted to make people aware of how serious it was. we just don t know. the web of connections between the president and russia seems p to be spreading. the founder of black water firm eric prince, a meeting took place on the indian ocean, sources say the meeting was to set up a back channel line of communication between the kremlin or president-elect trump, or at least an attempt. eric prince was not part of the transition, but has ties to
steve bannon and his sister is secretary of education. a spokesman for prince calls this claim of connection a quote complete fabrication. the house intelligence committee plans to meet at noon today with the future of its russia investigation hanging in the balance. the full committee convened last night since adam schiff called on devin nunes to recuse himself. the topic of russia and alleged ties to the trump administration will be on the table. a highly unusual trip to the white house i dare say infamous trip, which has been talked about ad nauseam, it called the ability to call into question the investigation. now we know these documents came from the nsc, national security council, devin nunes
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a review of all departments. since 2009 the justice department has conducted 25 investigations into law enforcement agencies and currently in 14 consent decrees and agreements. a reboot of health care, vice president mike pence meeting with mark meadows to pitch a new proposal that essentially gives states flex biibility to repeal obamacare. chairman meadows says he is intrigued by the new approach but needs to see more details. house republicans will discuss the plan when they meet later this morning for their weekly caucus. the trump administration plans to file an appeal on friday in an attempt to lift a or the order blocking the
six-nation fratravel ban, it wi be heard by the ninth circuit court of appeals, last month a judge in hawaii revised the order. 4:40 a.m. in the east today is equal payday. it s the proposal that women earn the same amount as men. women earn about 80 cents for every dollar than a man makes. for a 20-year-old entering the workhorse it amounts of $418,000 over a 40 year. hispanic women only just 54 cents compare today a male and the narrowest gap is asian
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orrin? reporter: no group has taken credit but still less than 24 hours since the attack happened and the identity of the suspect has just came out who say the man behind the deadly bombing that happened from a short distance from us is akbarzhon jalilov, that makes him 21 or 22 years old, a russian citizen, that s who authorities say is behind the deadly bombing, it has just risen to 14 dead and dozens wounded. there s still a flurry of activity, nine to ten fire trucks, two paramedics, they have run two or three fire hoses and blocked off the sennaya station. that is where this explosion happened. just a short distance past that is where police found another unexploeded device.
we don t have an explanation for the flurry of activity. authorities have identified the suspect, akbarzhon jalilov, he is from kyrgyzstan, now the investigators are working on the how and why and the question is was he working alone? thank you. what happens when two iconic internet companies join forces? apparently boring not a good vepgs online. reception online. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i m from all nations. it puts a hunger in your heart to want to know more. parts a and b and want more coverage,
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house portfolio already includes advising the president brokering mideast peace, restore the department of veterans affairs to help end drug addiction and shadowing the secretary of state, maintaining relations with mexico, canada and china. that s all. now you can add iraq to the list. he is there traveling with the chairman of joint chiefs, on us-led coalition on the fight against isis. ben wheatman has more for us what s the essential mission of this trip to iraq? reporter: i think in the case of the 36-year-old jared kushner is get to know the place, he done have any military or diplomatic experience so being companied by the chairman over the joint chief of staff and general who coordinates the coalition against isis. yesterday they were in baghdad
meeting with senior iraqi officials meeting with the prime minister. we understand part of the trip will include a visit to the northern part of the country where they may be meeting with u.s. forces involved in the offensive against isis in mosul where that battle at the moment is proving to be quite difficult really house to house, street to street fighting particularly in the old city. this is a fight in the western part of mosul where we ve seen mounting civilian casualties in which of course it s believed the united states may have had a role in a series of airstrikes on the 17th of march although the precise details of that particular day are not all together clear. mr. trump, the father-in-law of mr. kushner, the president, has in the past said some things that have riled some iraqis, for instance he did say as a
candidate and as a president that the united states should have taken iraq s oil after the 2003 us-led invasion, president trump did include iraq in the initial travel ban though it was later removed, so some iraqis not all together thrilled with the president others do admire a strong man, dave. no doubt about that. thank you. the national hockey lead at od odds with the players association not to participate in the 2018 politics. the league usually pauses for players to play in the league. they were adamantly opposed. it said it would no longer reimburse the cost of travel and insurance.
the players say it is short sided there are players that still want to go. are they poor? no, they want to protect their assets which you can understand from a business model right? we shall see, maybe it s not over. redemption for north carolina winning the championship after losing the title on a buzzer-beater to nova. the game close throughout, unc trailing at the half, the last eight of the game to close out the victory, third since 2005 for roy williams. the win setting off a wild celebration as you can see the school posting this great time lapsed video of north carolina students swarming the streets in chapel hill to celebrate from what it appears very peacefully. you don t see any fires or cars tipped over so it looks like a
student body well used to celebrating national titles. congratulations to all of you and gonzaga great season. shares falling overnight. tokyo down 1%. the optimism over president trump s policies could be waning. tesla, look at this shares jumping 7% after the upbeat delivery on vehicles. tesla is now valuable than ford by market cap, think about that and general motors is not far off. needs about 3 million more to get there in value. more proof this morning that college education is key. a college education is key to achieving one piece of the american dream. 55% of students who graduate without debt own a home by age
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