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tod grea greece today, out of europe in general. >> they seem relatively frosty because these two haven't played golf or been in touch for a while, and there are some pressing issues, like you say, the student loan issue if it comes up, if it's not resolved by the first of july. >> and remember the climate for which this meeting will be set. the president has been on the road for quite some time pressing congress, hammering congress for basically being a do-nothing congress. so now they're going to go to the table and the president is going to have to, in some way, urge them to work for him. that's going to be tough given all the rhetoric we've heard from him on the road. >> thank you, kristen welker. we're very excited, and particularly for david beckham. wheel be right back. if you made a list of countries from around the world... ...with the best math scores. ...the united states would be on that list.
things like tax breaks for small businesses as well as help for homeowners, which are struggling. but martin, remember, these were some things that were part of his jobs bill, and of course that didn't pass through congress when it went through congress earlier. so i've spoken to some aides on the hill who said, look, we're open to hearing what the president has to say but we want to him hear come to the table with some new ideas. for example, there's been a lot of debate over a bill that would lower student loan rates. a lot of fighting over how to pay for that bill. so republicans on the hill are interested to see if the president has any new ideas for that that could potentially move the ball forward. also the issue for rolling back the military. so there are a lot of sort of sticking points and a lot of things they want to be able to come to the table over, but it's not looking pvery hopeful. it should be noted, martin, these meetings are very rare. they haven't had one since february. as you know, there is a lot of turmoil reported out of grooet
america have watched president obama for nearly four years now. much of that time with congress controlled by his own party. and rather than putting out that spending firk he has been feeding it. he has spent more and borrowed more. the time has come for a president, a leader who will lead. i will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno. we will stop borrowing unfathomable amounts of money we can't even imagine from foreign countries we're never even going to visit. i will work with you to make sure we put out this spending and borrowing fire. a lot of people think this is a problem we can't solve. i reject that kind of can't do defeatist talk.
>> if you look at voter turnout, it was way down. if you expect -- i think this is going to be a volatile election. we'll be up and down, up and down. good week for barack obama right now but the turnouts you saw in 2008 were turnouts you hadn't seen in decades. >> and the president hammering congress constantly has a lot to do with the numbers we're about to reveal to you. fox news did a poll saying how do you think congress is doing? good or bad? 79% say bad. and 20% say good. it stopped in the senate. has the senate gotten a pass? >> i'm laughing only because you mentioned i'm married to a member of the house and he does not have the highest opinion at times of the united states senate because so much stuff does get stuck over there. and i just -- they don't debate. they never bring it up. >> can't get a simple majority now. it requires 60 votes and it's really broken down over there. but i think the dynamics in the congress are it's not too much the house hasn't passed things.
look what happened with the debt ceiling and raising the debt ceiling and the impact that happened to be coming. i think people across america, republicans and democrats are disgusted, period, i think you saw a year that they were disgusted with republicans and a year they were disgusted with democrats. this year, they're angry. they want change and they want the country to get fixed. >> i hear that all the time. what's interesting is you as a democratic strategist place a blot of the blame about people not liking congress on this president. >> i am, i say it as i see it and i do get -- barack obama demonizes the congress more than i like to see it and i said it and i've been very blunt about that. congress is an equal branch of government. he doesn't differentiate between -- >> why does he do that? >> because i think he feels it's part of anti-washington. i'm not anti-washington the way that everybody else is. i want washington to work. i think public service is a good thing. you want to go to washington and work together for the country. >> there's two things.
>> the government already gives electric car buyers a $7500 subsidy but president obama wants to bump that up to $10,000 per car. if congress approves the plan, it would cost taxpayers about $100 million a year. critics say chevy volt drivers don't need the extra money because they made an extra -- an average of $170,000 a year, according to the buyer profiles which is about the same as the average bmw or mercedes owner and we're giving them a break! >> yep. michigan state women's basketball coach suzy merchant interrupted in a post-game press conference by her own baby. baby was sitting on her lap and just couldn't resist the microphone. >> yea! >> yeah. >> she did a great job out of the gates. >> yea! >> we were disappointed. >> yea! that's cool. that interruption actually a welcome one for mom and coach. her spartans had just come after a pretty big loss. >> yea! >> all right. let's talk a little bit about what's going on out in the
judge, number one, is this constitutional to tell insurance companies from the white house go ahead and provide this service for free? >> let me back up a step. it is legal for the president to tell this to insurance companies because when congress passed obamacare, it authorized the president to have discretion as to how to implement it. but when congress authorized obamacare, it acted unconstitutionally because under the constitution, the president, a, can't tell a religious organization how to spend their money. b, the president can't change the rules and c, the president can't make rules but that's what this legislation lets them do. >> we also know and you illustrated perfectly in the break, for example, notre dame. notre dame was told, ok, you get an exemption and you don't have to pay for contraceptive care but the insurer does but the insurers cause the schools premiums. >> precisely. notre dame of which i'm a graduate has about 25,000 employees so the insurance policy, the insurance premiums are huge. the contraceptive materials and
>> greta: here is the best of the ref. night after night, "on the record" has been hammering congress and white house the white house for promising but not cracking down on waste and fraud. are we making progress? listen to mary landrieu on the senate floor. >> i was on greta van susteren's show last night. greta is always a tough interviewer but fair so i'm happy to go on. it was a tough interview and we debated these things. i think that is important to debate them here, on television town hall meetings. she said senator we are frustrated, nobody ever hears anybody say they want to cut spending, eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. let me concede this point, that for me, i don't think we do talk enough about eliminating the waste. eliminating the fraud. and eliminating the abuse.