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Morning Joe

it is not normal and it is completely out of bounds with the way our democracy or any democracy ought to work. >> yeah. let's bring in right now former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosenberg, a man who, trust me, did not just fall off a turnip truck yesterday and wind up inside the studios of 30 rock like me. chuck, we're lafrlaughing abouts defense, and i think for valid reasons, but why don't you take us through it legally. any chance that donald trump is going to prevail on that point or any of these points that mika read? >> you know, joe, you're laughing about it because it is laughable. i mean, defense attorneys can write what they want. they can file what they want. it doesn't really matter because, at the end of the day, assuming this case goes to trial in georgia, there's going to be 12 men and women in the jury box who are going to decide what they think of this defense. now, you know, there's -- it's clear ignorance of the law is not a defense, but more than

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CNN Special Report

michael luttig: --willful ignorance of fact or law by the president of the united states would not be either a legal defense or a political defense to the president. that's about as clear as a former judge could say it. jake tapper: ultimately, the justice department will decide whether to bring any charges against former president trump or john eastman, who the committee also referred for criminal prosecution or anyone else. in november, attorney general merrick garland appointed a former war crimes prosecutor named jack smith as special counsel in charge of these ongoing investigations. sara murray: we know the justice department has been investigating jeffrey clark. we also know that john eastman is someone who's been touched by this investigation. john eastman: i'd like to see the warrant before you take my property. jake tapper: both jeffrey clark and john eastman have had their phones seized by federal investigators. clark dismissed the investigation as politically motivated and eastman fought the doj search warrant in court.

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CNN Special Report

jake tapper: not everyone shares that view. michael luttig: --willful ignorance of fact or law by the president of the united states would not be either a legal defense or a political defense to the president. that's about as clear as a former judge could say it. jake tapper: ultimately, the justice department will decide whether to bring any charges against former president trump or john eastman, who the committee also referred for criminal prosecution or anyone else. in november, attorney general merrick garland appointed a former war crimes prosecutor named jack smith as special counsel in charge of these ongoing investigations. sara murray: we know the justice department has been investigating jeffrey clark. we also know that john eastman is someone who's been touched by this investigation. john eastman: i'd like to see the warrant before you take my property. jake tapper: both jeffrey clark and john eastman have had their phones seized by federal investigators. clark dismissed the investigation as politically motivated and eastman fought the doj search warrant in court.

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Morning Joe

>> well, remember that meme back from 2016, you know, "take him seriously but not literally," or whatever. i think it was seriously, not literally. >> something like that. >> the reality is, i think this is part of the rationalization process, like don't pay any attention to what he is saying because it doesn't matter. well, it does matter. >> it does. >> reality matters. this is a man who has already shown a willingness to overthrow a free and fair election. we've seen this. we had a million americans die during covid because of his ignorance. this is a man who, you know, by the way, thinks that magnets don't work if you dropped them into water, and thinks that you can inject bleach into human bodies. you know, are we deranged by pointing out how incredibly stupid all of that is? again, this is part of the challenge. i can see the republican party already making its usual shift, which is to blinker itself, like, we're not going to pay attention to this. we're going to go along with

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CNN Special Report

should he have known? yes, but if he did not, i don't know that that's a crime. michael luttig: i said that-- jake tapper: not everyone shares that view. michael luttig: --willful ignorance of fact or law by the president of the united states would not be either a legal defense or a political defense to the president. that's about as clear as a former judge could say it. jake tapper: ultimately, the justice department will decide whether to bring any charges against former president trump or john eastman, who the committee also referred for criminal prosecution or anyone else. in november, attorney general merrick garland appointed a former war crimes prosecutor named jack smith as special counsel in charge of these ongoing investigations. sara murray: we know the justice department has been investigating jeffrey clark. we also know that john eastman is someone who's been touched by this investigation. john eastman: i'd like to see the warrant before you take my property. jake tapper: both jeffrey clark and john eastman have had their phones seized by federal investigators.

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The Katie Phang Show

stopping the peaceful transfer of power after a lawful, fraud free election. trump promises a repeat performance in the event he loses this year. january six 2021 was just a practice run for him and his maga supporters. the intentional and deliberate ignorance of the far-right to deny the truth of what happened that day. the intentional and illiberal perpetuation of the big lie to further the grift and the deceit. the voting booths, and the courtrooms in 2024, will be the battlegrounds for democracy versus a top russi. we have seen and heard what trump has planned for those that do not fall into line behind him. as president biden has said, donald trump remains the greatest threats to american democracy. despite the gravity of what is at stake, despite the exhaustion of feeling like you are not making a difference, i

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Velshi

doing better under biden. the dow has reached record highs in recent weeks. the s&p has been doing close with the same thing. the disconnect between how people feel about the economy and what that number is in the data actually demonstrate is a real head-scratcher here. it is willful ignorance on the part of voters who actually earn money and have retirement accounts, and buy gas, and buy food, and continue to believe that biden's economy is doing badly, even though, i can't use the words on television, but the initials are bs. the economy is doing well, and much better than expected. those are just the facts. joining me now, jennifer rubin, opinion writer for the washington post and msnbc political analyst, author of the resistance. how women save democracy from donald trump. also with, us norah bernstein, yeah -- at contributing editor at the atlantic, and a co-host of the words matter podcast. good morning to both of you. thank you for being here. norm, let me ask you this. here's the issue. i think you both, now because

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Velshi

near daily basis during his presidency, and i tend to prefer not to talk about all that often, has been doing that hunter biden. the dow has reached record highs in recent weeks, and the s&p is between close to the same. the disconnect between how people feel about the economy and what the numbers and data actually show is a head-scratcher. it's willful ignorance on the part of voters who actually earn money, have retirement accounts, by gas and food, to continue to believe that this economy is doing badly, even when -- i can't say the words on television, but the initials for that are bs. the economy is doing well, the economy is doing much better than expected, and those are just the facts. joining me now, eugene scott, senior political reporter for axios, also with us is jonathan allen, national political reporter for nbc news and the author of how lucky, how joe biden won the presidency. guys, good to see you. thanks for being with us. jonathan, one of the things that is intriguing here is

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CNN News Central

results of elections, has pervaded the republican party. >> it does strike me as a chicken and egg dynamic. the main republican that has been calling donald trump out for his election lies is chris christie. we don't really see the support for him that we see even for desantis in the kayleigh. steven and daniel we very much appreciate your perspective. thank you for joining us. >> of course. still ahead they we are standing by from news from the supreme court. the justices are meeting right now. we could hear any minute on whether or not they will take up the issue of donald trump being banned from state ballots. >> an abortion rights group getting enough petitions ignorance to put the question of abortion protection on the 2024 balla in florida. we will have one of the leaders joining us live, ahead.

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Deadline White House

iteration of the lost cause where they'll tell a story about slavery, but what is so fascinating about this, alicia, is that it is so dumb, right? i could easily respond to. i could tell the story of the founding of the founding of the democratic party in 1828 and i can tell the founding of the republican party in 1854, and i can tell what happened with fdr and what happened with johnson and what happened with ronald reagan in 1980. i can tell that stuff, but it doesn't matter because it's not about the facts. they just want to own liberals, and so i think it's important for us to a, call for what it is, a deep seeded ignorance and b, for call it for what it is, a deep-seeded cynical play and we shouldn't play that game even though i'm not quite a liberal. so important and a good one.s david, i want you to read some he speech, and this is from eice president, this is the objected to, quote, adultsno

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