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gave corporate america a chance to killing build back better." what do you think? >> let me say to trista's point, she's echoing jen psaki and joe biden that said the republicans messed this up. let me remind everybody, the democrats have the house, the senate and the white house. they own the whole show. if they can't make the play work until the final act, it's not the republicans holding it up. it's democrats, joe manchin, krysten sinema. they don't want to go back and defend this in their own districts.they won't see it publicly and get themselves up messed up with the white house, this isn't a republican problem. this is the democrats continue come together because if they could, they could pass it. they can't. >> trace: its a fair point, crystal. you do own the whole shooting match here. what do you think? >> well, i think that that is a fair point. my hope is that in the new year
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you're hillary clinton, it really depends on how you make your millions. in an interview with "the guardian" newspaper, clinton said despite her enormous wealth, she is not part of the problem when it comes to income inequality. clinton said "but they don't see me as part of the problem because we pay ordinary income tax, unlike a lot of people who are truly well off, not to name names, and we've done it through the dint of hard work." now, this comment comes on the heels of another head-scratcher. clinton told abc not long ago she and bill clinton were dead broke when they left the white house. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke but in debt. we had no money when we got there and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for chelsea's education. >> a thought from my op ed on the subject on cnn.com, "wouldn't it have been grand if clinton had simply said i worked hard, yes, but i've been blessed
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this interview, but she felt she had to because she didn't want to get this latest allegation lost or swept under the rug. but she is fearful, like all these whistleblowers are, of retaliation at the va. she feels her career is possibly over, but she was willing to come forward because she felt -- you could see the weight on her shoulders. she's had it. >> good for you, pauline. thanks so much, drew. still to come in the "newsroom," as thousands of undocumented children stream across the border between mexico and texas, the governor of that state is pressing for a solution. >> this isn't a democrat problem, this isn't a republican problem. this is an american problem. >> but will congress be able to find a solution? that's the focus of a hearing on capitol hill this morning. polio sandoval is there. good morning, polo. >> carol, good morning. it's front and center again. the head of homeland security taking the hot seat before lawmakers. a preview of this morning's
are really a frightening window into this idea that income inequality is a problem but not my income. it's always there's someone richer than me and they're the one that's the problem. that's frightening when that's coming from a person who's been in a position with a great deal of power of secretary of state. >> okay, salim is coming at this from a purely political angle, and it's fine. it's fine. i just want to get to the root of the question, so jason, i will ask you this question, does money change you, even if you come from a humble background? if you become wealthy, does it change you? >> yeah, i'm less cyndi lauper about getting more money, more problems. when you make a lot of money, of course it's going to change you. there are things you can do. there is the amount of money you have where you don't have to worry about working. there's the amount of money you have where you can tell everybody to leave you alone. it fundamentally changes you as a person. now, whether that makes you qualified or changes how well you can do your job as a politician is completely different. the thing about hillary clinton is, she's been rich for so long and we're so used to her being rich for so long, i'm not surprised she's going to make comments like this. i'm waiting for her to say
care about regular middle class people. they should listen. we want more affordable health care. we want improvements in minimum wage. americans have never had a problem with rich people. we love mark cuban, bill gates. the only time we have a problem with your wealth is when you stop listening and there have been plenty of very wealthy politicians and very wealthy people have been able to demonstrate that despite being born with a silver spoon in their mouth, they still listen to people. you can take the job, but i would rather you just listen. thanks for the discussion. i appreciate it. if all of you would like to read my op ed, money changes everything, scroll down to the opinion section on cnn.com. i'll be right back.
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millionaire's tax and other things like that. this isn't a republican problem. >> when you have someone like mitch mcconnell that blocks nomination after nomination, that blocks vote after vote, sometimes they are going 90 to 0 or 90 to 10. when you have that kind of leader just being a roadblock, of course the president has to do executive orders, of course the president has to do other things. what you did see in the last round with the payroll tax, mitch mcconnell finally said i get what the people are saying, they want this tax cut, and i'm willing to work on it. you know what? it got done. >> to penny's point, and this is one of the criticism of him, he we want to make him a one term president, how can he work with a guy like that? but is there a hope we can return to the ways of the 90s, things actually got done. is there hope that maybe president obama was professing?