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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150428:10:40:00

thugs. >> that was maryland governor larry hogan on his conversation with president obama. joining us now, white house correspondent april ryan who lives in baltimore and spent 15 years covering the community there. she's joining us by skype because of the protests and violence there. and in washington, former lieutenant governor of maryland and msnbc political analyst michael steele. >> michael steele, you were lieutenant governor. have the problems always been there in baltimore between police and the residents of that city? >> joe, this is long tapping and very deep rooted, my friend. this is really sort of the boiling point now. if you go back to 2005 2006 when then mayor o'malley had basically a policy if place that was everything was on lockdown, you couldn't sit on your stoop, people were harassed and so all

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CNN Tonight-20150428-02:09:00

support. >> joe, what am i hearing? i'm not sure if i'm hearing a generator or a motor, a motorcycle or a police chopper overhead. what are we hearing? >> helicopter. >> is that a police chopper? >> yeah. it's a police chopper that's buzzed us a couple times. we've seen probably two or three in the neighborhood. also i can't say certainly that's a police helicopters, because there are news helicopters up in the air all day and into the evening, don. >> joe, we'll get back to you. stand by. i want to get into this with sunny hostin. neil franklin is a retired state police major. and rob wine hold a former chief spokesperson for the baltimore police department and a crisis and public safety expert. so glad you could join us. neil why not send in the national guard quicker? he said he needed a call from

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150428:11:11:00

peace. >> and this is a very personal thing. this is my hometown. joe, i live about a mile away from where this stuff is happening. so this is very personal and absolutely, i think even though it was a poor choice of words, we can also look back months ago when the governor was asked what is happening in ferguson, he said it was not a maryland problem, that was a poor choice of words because this is much bigger than maryland. the hurt is justifiable. their anger is understandable. but the actions are counter productive. we have to get to a point because we now have a situation where when the first priority becomes basic restoration of order, we're not able to deal with the systemic issues, the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20150428:15:12:00

externally you have to let it take its course. you cannot rush these things. people are afraid they will cover this or that up. that is not happening. what is going to happen is there is an internal investigation that must be done as well as the external investigation by the da's office and whatever other agencies get involved. if you disturb that process, and push them you will come up with the same situation you had in ferguson. misinformation going out there and it will not do anybody any good especially the family. in this situation the way you have many, many thousands of great cops, you do have a few bad apples all right? it is the same thing in this neighborhood. you have thousands official people that are law-abiding system. >> good perspective. we have to remember that in our own communities as well. joe, great to have you. thank you for your advice today.

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CNN Tonight-20150428-02:08:00

>> i want to ask you, joe, i don't know if you're able to get that information where you are. but how are they making those decisions as to where to send the officers where they're needed? >> well i know that where we started out, they sent police officers to essentially lock down the block so that the fire department could put out fires. and the second location we went to not too far from here probably a couple miles, same thing. there were baltimore county police officers there with mobile transport units, you know the armored transport units, and they were there in support of the fire department, which was trying to put out fires. so firefighters come unarmed and they need help when there are people rioting. and that's what we're seeing. as far as this location i can't tell you for sure but i do know that they have been sent in

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mayor, why weren't people called in earlier reinforcements? joe, tell us what you're seeing and what you experienced today. >> hi don. okay we'll give you just a little bit of a sense. here we see another line of police officers blocking off the street the next block over or perhaps two blocks down. there's more police officers blocking off the street. but here's the problem. right through here we drove coming back from one of sort of the war zones this evening and there is a block not too far from here, within walking distance of where i stand, where people have just essentially taken it over. they've got street fires going. there are people standing on the streets, obviously in an angry

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150428:11:12:00

larger issues in place here. we're talking about schools being closed and i understand the first priority has to be the safety and security of the students teacher, administrators, et cetera and also the common citizens and just navigating to and from school. but again, what message does that send about schools being closed at a time like this. >> i wondered that at the same time, as well, because the last thing we need are more kids on the streets, reverend al. >> i also think that you have to deal with the leadership not being isolated that may not be in the political space around the mayor. i saw where the mayor said she would welcome me coming in and i am going in today. and what i will tell them, you got to not only talk to your supporters. why when i saw joe this morning give the litany of different cities that have had problems, why did some cities explode and others didn't? and one of the patterns that i can tell this mayor is when you

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20150427:07:08:00

to grind. that's not unusual, but how do you deal with that? >> well i mean you have to deal okay what is the news here? and i think because there was a lack of disclosure here there was a $2 million loan that was not disclosed. and that ties into the earlier issue about the e-mails that hillary clinton -- but, i do think that you have to judge, okay this source has an ax to grind, but let's take a look at the news and obviously, that's what peter schweitzer said yeah this is legitimate. >> one of your reporters is writing about a democrat and provides some research you've got to take that into account, but it doesn't mean the researcher is wrong. >> and you've got to check it. >> at the same time joe, as folks are pointing out, this guy, peter schweitzer has worked with george w. bush, with sarah palin, his institute is funded by the billionaire family that is helping to bankroll ted cruz's campaign. does that in your view as a democrat make him less credible as an author? >> there's fishiness on both sides.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20150426:15:08:00

to grind. that's not unusual, but how do you deal with that? >> well i mean you have to deal okay what is the news here? and i think because there was a lack of disclosure here there was a $2 million loan that was not disclosed. and that ties into the earlier issue about the e-mails that hillary clinton -- but, i do think that you have to judge, okay this source has an ax to grind, but let's take a look at the news and obviously, that's what peter schweitzer said yeah this is legitimate. >> one of your reporters is writing about a democrat and provides some research you've got to take that into account, but it doesn't mean the researcher is wrong. >> and you've got to check it. >> at the same time joe, as folks are pointing out, this guy, peter schweitzer has worked with george w. bush, with sarah palin, his institute is funded by the billionaire family that is helping to bankroll ted cruz's campaign. does that in your view as a democrat make him less credible as an author? >> there's fishiness on both sides.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150426:20:30:00

that was that and then that day phone has been ringing and went national and then i believe it went worldwide. people have sent us hate mail and things like that. >> joe is the chairman of the national association of karate and martial arts schools, a british organization that regulates traditional a and nontraditional martial arts. nightingale, jim reps, is not part of it. >> our policy is not to encourage or allow children and those under the age of 18 to participate in cage fighting eor mixed martial arts on a competitive level. >> he's an advocate of the sport, but horrified by the video. >> two children engaged in this activity, which the dangers to them. from a physical perspective and from an emotional, mental perspective. if they were wearing head guards or paring pads, then maybe we could then say, okay, this is safe.

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