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The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart

warning in this? are those who actually finds him in contempt or do something much more stark in the manner of this? we know what he's going to do when he continues to do it in the attacks everyone, he can't help himself. donald trump is who he is in those but i think that she is going to try the rain doesn't as much as possible. >> let's bring in former federal prosecutor and former southern district of new york criminal division deputy chief. kristie, thank you so much for being here. here come all the legal questions. what does the news about two witnesses are set to testify on tuesday signal about today fani willis's timeline? should we also expect to see charges brought on tuesday? >> it depends on whether or not those two individuals were given a 48-hour notice, which would suggest that things are wrapping up. there is not the public recording to suggest whether

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Alex Witt Reports

he should be able to do some things that other criminal defendants would not be able to get away with. and she made that very clear, she considers his presidential run just a day job, just like anybody else. he's got to follow the law not intimidate witnesses, not lash out at witnesses and social media, and the like, the there is an issue here, though, which is that regular criminal defendants to sometimes get jailed if they attack witnesses. if they violate eight judges commands, and you know, so, and to bring that to the leading presidential candidates for the republican party and the former president would be a huge, huge step. so, i think the judge will be very cautious and reluctant before attempting to take such a step such as arrest or interest of donald trump. >> it would be difficult to keep politics out of the courtroom were that to happen, we must say. so, kristie, this is

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Alex Witt Reports

of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. >> more now on the new restrictions facing donald trump as he takes on the treacherous endeavor of campaigning on his multiple criminal indictments. in the face of a new protection order, preventing him from ranting about evidence in the election fraud case. joining me now, christie greenberg, former federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york, and luke broadwater, new york times congressional reporter. good to have you both here. ladies first here, kristie. so, judge chutkan wrote, the governments motions granted in part and the night in parts. how about you? what is your assessment?

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

are you ready for why? because his lawyer didn't fill out the notice with the court. i have questions about that one. and in michigan, nine alleged big electors were arraigned earlier today. the fake electors plot is a key part of jack smith's d.c. indictment, the federal one, but these were state charges. all nine defendants entered not guilty pleas. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel this evening. peter baker is here in a, tai chi fight as correspondent for the new york times, luke broadwater, more casual, pulitzer prize-winning congressional ford for the new york times and christie greenberg, former fdny camilla vision deputy chief joins me here at 30 rock. i'm a start with you, kristie. what do you expect from this protective order here tomorrow morning at 10 am sharp? >> both sides have versions of the protective order that they want the judge to consider and i expect that the judge is going to lean more in the direction of the government's

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

york times and christie greenberg, former fdny camilla vision deputy chief joins me here at 30 rock. i wanna start with you, kristie. what do you expect from this protective order here tomorrow morning at 10 am sharp? >> both sides have versions of the protective order that they want the judge to consider and i expect that the judge is going to lean more in the direction of the government's proposed protective order because really what donald trump and his team want to do is have more that is not protected, that can be public, and you may say to yourself what's wrong with that? the public wants to know what the evidence is in this case. but there are lots of risks involved in that. you can see him cutting and pasting and taking things out of context and having evidence that is inadmissible that would taint the jury pool. evidence of witness transcripts, witness interviews, where you could really be seeking to intimidate witnesses. we have seen him do that on social media, particularly with his former vice president. and just ways to undermine the integrity.

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All In With Chris Hayes

unindicted coconspirators. one thing is clear. every party understands that this is a test of what the legal process that trump is used and abused for decades to escape accountability will be used to give him another shot at control over a country whose government he tried to destroy. christie greenberg is a former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york which she served as deputy chief for the criminal division. and -- sort of the public integrity unit in the department of justice. both join me now. let me start in his speed process question for you, kristie. the judge says give me dates. the lawyer says ah, we can't make this week work, she comes back and says friday it is. what do you make of that? >> trump's team never said the friday didn't work for them. video said friday wasn't an option because the judge had asked them to come up with dates before three days so she seized on that.

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All In With Chris Hayes

kristie, talking about the judge, the obama appointed judge. he then goes into a conspiracy theory about a conflict of interest that is taken from a website publishing some of the most ludicrous and easily debunked aspects of the big lie about how joe biden lost the election. so that's where he's getting, that's where he sourcing it. so let's try to sink, kristy, if this were any other defendant posted on social media about the judge, what would you expect? >> first you look at the serious nature of the charges that are involved here. and january six charges talked about exploiting violence, exploiting a mob mentality in order to get to overturning the results of the democratic election. so given the nature of the seriousness of those charges and his dangerous rhetoric, i would hope that judge chutkan wastes no time here in creating a record that would support, eventually imposing a gag

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All In With Chris Hayes

this is a test of what the legal process that trump is used and abused for decades to escape accountability will be used to give him another shot at control over a country whose government he tried to destroy. christie greenberg is a former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york which she served as deputy chief for the criminal division. and -- sort of the public integrity unit in the department of justice. both join me now. let me start in his speed process question for you, kristie. the judge says give me dates. the lawyer says ah, we can't make this week work, she comes back and says friday it is. what do you make of that? >> trump's team never said the friday didn't work for them. video said friday wasn't an option because the judge had asked them to come up with dates before three days so she seized on that. hey you didn't say friday

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All In With Chris Hayes

did. but you're, right trump has often used lawyers to try to delay accountability, to have a more difficult time in a criminal case because of the law that both sides have a right to a speedy trial and frankly because judges are on to trump's game of trying to manipulate the system and even conservative judges have pushed back. >> there's also the issue of, obviously this is a singular case in american history. there is really, i mean i've never seen anything like it. berger tried for treason after he tried to announce himself king in the west years ago. maybe that's the closest analog. a great chapter in american history, look that one up. but basically we never had anything like it. there is really no apples to apples comparison here. now you've got a defendant. let's just say he's just any defendant. if you threaten we are threatened you. this afternoon. kristie, talking about the judge, the obama appointed judge.

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American Voices With Alicia Menendez

prosecuting the case against him, that's bad for democracy. >> yeah, but i think there's a way to accomplish that within the dynamics of the republican party. because we know if you're will hurd, hutchison, kristie, the room does not want to hear that. it doesn't work, this isn't your party anymore. the person to watch is tim scott, and the reason i say that is because ron desantis and donald trump are uniquely dangerous figures. unconstitutional regions, for cultural reasons, and other. and i know for tim scott, nikki haley, and others, progressives have concerns over ideology. but they're not a danger to the office or to the constitution. and what tim scott has done is instead of going right at desantis or going right at donald trump, he's speaking aspirationally about how republicans can help on the economy and the strong foreign policy. traditional republican themes, that contrast provides the opportunity to isolate trump and desantis. tim scott and a few others on that stage can go to the room and say, look, this is my vision for america, and i know

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