political parties and it was. regarding the authorization of the clinton impeachment inquiry, it was supported by all republicans and 31 democrats. fast forward to the current impeachment, the trump s impeachment drive approved only by democrats. how does this they did not have any delusions. it is certainly not something they achieved in their own lifetime. you will be surprised that some of these framers did at the ends of their lives including jefferson adams sort of reconciled and i think one of the most significant moments in constitutional history is the one that is rarely discussed that adams and jefferson reached out to each other that they wanted to reconcile before they die. they meant and they did. and, maybe that is something that we can learn from but i think the greater thing i would point to is the seven republicans in the johnson impeachment. if i can read one thing to you. and everyone often talks about one of the senators but not this one. a fantastic senator, he became a great advocate for civil liberties. you understand most of these senators when it was said that they jumped into their political graves, it was true. most of their political careers ended. trombul said the following. the excitement of the hours subsided will be regarded as insufficient clauses. no future president will be safe. i tremble for the future of my country. i can t be instrument to produce such a result and if the tides or friendship infection until commerce time shall do justice to my motives and no alternatives are left to me. he proceeded to give the vote that ended his career. you can t wait for calmer tides. the time for you is now. i would say what trombul says more then than today. this is much like the johnson impeachme impeachment, it is manufactured until you build a record. i am not saying you can t build a record but you can t do it like this. you can t impeach a president like this. professor turley, they discussed what s considered to be a legitimate impeachment process. the book is pretty anti-trump. it is presumptively illegitim e illegitimate. there is a strong risk that policy disagreements or partisans over taken the proper measure of congressional impartiality. we can expect opposition leaders to the president will be pushed to impeach and suffer internal blow back if they don t. the key question is whether they ll cave to the pressure. the house will under take additional doom partisan impeachment developments that ll be a disaster for the dais as a whole. mr. turley, is that advice being followed by democrats in this case? no. one thing that comes out is impeachment requires certain periods of maturation that the public would have to catch up. if you rush this impeachment, you are going to leave half the country behind. that s not what the framers wanted. you have to give the time to build a record. this is not an impulse by item, you are trying to remove a dually elected president of the united states. that takes time and takes work. at the end, if you look at nixon which was the gold standard in this respect, the public did catch up. they did not support impeachment but they changed their mind. you changed their mind. so did the courts because you allow these issues to be heard in the courts. professor turley, the nixon/clinton impeachment were debated as high crimes category. yes. your view of no evidence of any crimes committed by president trump. yes, they do not meet any reasonable interpretation of those crimes and i am relying on expressed statements from the federal courts. i understand the language and statue that s broad, that s not the controlling language. it is the language of the interpretation of federal cou s courts. i think all of those decisions stand in the way of these theories. if you can t make out those crimes then don t call it that crime. if it does not matter, what s the point? call it tree on or endangered species violation if none of this matters. in james madison s note of the constitutional convention debate, they clearly showed the term high in misdemeanor was referred to a technical term, it was not just something that any majority partisan members may happen to think. it was at a given time. people turn into dictionary. it was first published in 1755 and the founders and many libraries have this book on their desks and the supreme court still cites johnson s dictionary determining the words used in the constitution. here is how the 1775 dictionary. the sub definition. atrocious is defined as enormous and criminal. as you look at these words, a misdemeanor is something less than atrocious crime and atrocious is within a high degree. a high misdemeanor must be something likele less than a crime. professor turley, does that come forward of your understanding of the phrase high misdemeanor with the purpose of narrowing that phrase to prevent this sorese sf abuses. it did. they did not want to establish a type of broad meaning. those provisions would be identical and that s clearly not what they wanted. professor turley, i would like to explore how this impeachment is based on no crime and no requests unlike theically tth tth ththe nixon and clinton. this was an abc news investigation, of foreign deals and joe biden profits from his father as vice president and there is a clip of it here with the burisma promotional video. many seen the video of joe biden getting the ukrainian prosecutor who s investigating burisma. a new york times article says from may 1st, 2019 referring to joseph r. biden, one of his most memorable performances came from a trip to kiev when he threatened to withhold a billion dollars of united states loan policies. among those who had a stake in the outcome was hunter biden. so hunter biden engaged in no crimes regarding of sitting in the board of burisma. hunter biden s position on the board would have been eliminated along with his $50,000 a month payment. that was his stake and the potential prosecution involving the company. ev even the former acting general under president obama said the following. is what hunter biden did wrong? absolutely. hunter biden had no real experience which made him unqualified to sit on the board of burisma. the only logical reason a company could have is pointing h i his tide. no politicians from either party should allow a foreign power to conduct this kind of influence peddling with their family members. lieutenant vindman was asked would it be u.s. policy to ask a foreign leader to open a foreign policy. american media and others were asking questions of hunter bi n biden s involvement with ukraine. is house impeachment and covering up his administration involvement in a crime of nixon s criminal acts, including tape recording of the cover up after the affair. it is. the house impeach clinton for the crime of lying under oath to denying a woman suing him for sexual harassment to evidence she was leading to entitled to. there were requests of false information both the nixon and clinton scandals by the president himself. yes. there are no words of president trump s call that shows request for false information, are there? > no. that s one of the reasons if you want to establish the opposing view, you have to investigate this further. now let me walk you through the standing evidence of house democrats insisted on. they say that one of the professors testified do you meaned in the nixon inquiry everyone agree the minority and majority that the standard of proof of the committee in the house was clear and convincing evidence. professor turley, would you agree the evidence compiled during these proceedings failed to meet the standards of convincing evidence? i do by considerable measure. let me turn to the book and the presidency and that book the author states the following. impeaching with a partial or plausibly understanding of key facts is a bad idea. do you think that impeaching in this case would constitute in a partial or understanding the key facts? i think that s clear. this is one of the thinnest records to go forward on impeachme impeachment. the johnson s impeachment could be debate because it established in the fourth impeachment. if you take a look at the size of the record of clinton and nixon, they were massive in comparison to this which was way more thin. it left doubts in people of the minds not only for those supporting for trump but also myself. what did occur? you need to stick the landing on the quid pro quo. you need to get the evidence to support it. i may be out there, i don t know. it is not in this record, we all read the record and i come to a different conclusion, i don t see proof of quid pro quo. no matter what my bias or assumption may be. i would like to turn to the current impeachment procedure. would you agree a full and fair adversary system that each side gets to present their evidence. the english impeachment model that was rejected by the framer, they took the language but rejected the model of the impeachment from england in terms of hastings. if you want to see adversariaad take a look at what burton did to hastings. as you know the minority views of the clinton s report, the house democrats wrote the following. it is incumbent on the committee to write these protection. impeachment not only mandates due process but due process quadruple. the same minority view also supports the right to cross-examination and a variety of context in the clintons. you described how monica lewinsky was not allowed to be call in the trial. she was told to lie about her relationship with president clinton. it is a cautionary tale about the dangers of denying key witnesses. can you e will be ralaborate on? that was my testimony dealing with how you structure these impeachment. what happens during the impeachment and it came up during the hear we had previously was a question of how much the house had to do in terms of clinton impeachment because you had the robust record created. they had a lot of testimonies and video tapes and etc. the house incorporated that and the assumption was that witnesses would be called at the center. there was a failure at the center. the rules that were applied in my view were not fair and restricted witnesses to only three and that s why i brought up the lewinsky matter. monica lewinsky revealed she had been told and if she signs that affidavit that we know it is untrue that she would not be call ed as a witness. i yield my time. the gentleman yields back. this is the moment in which the white house would have the opportunity to question the witnesses but they declined the invitation. we ll proceed to questioning under the five-minute rule. i yield myself five minutes for the purpose of questioning witnesses. bribery had a clear meaning to the framers. it was when the president using the power of his office solicits or receives something of personal value from someone affected by his official power. i want to be very clear. the constitution is law. the constitution is the supreme law of the land. of course, professor turley is right, you don t want to impeach someone that did not violate the law. bribery whatted a clehad a clea. if the house believes the president solicited something of values and he did it for personal gains, that would constitute bribery and it would not be lawless. it would be bribery under the law. so decisions determining statutes would not be relevant. t thank you. professor gerhartd. obstruction of justice is not obstruction of the courts. it is any lawful proceedings. obstruction is not limited to whatever that s happening in the course and obviously here there are judiciary proceedings going on but critical congression congressional obstruction of congress, i don t know, i can say and i know there is not anything like the president s refusal to comply with subpoenas from this body. these are lawful subpoenas. these ahave the force of laws t them. these are every president complied with. professor turley implied that as long as the president serves ultimately nonexistence privilege like immunity, he can t be charged of obstruction of congress because after all, he had not gone through the courts yet. i missed part of the question. professor turley implied that we can t charge the president of obstruction or subpoenas as long as he had any claims until the court rejects those claims? i have to respectfully disagree. no. his refusal to decline those subpoenas is apart from the court. it has a direct assault on the legitimacy of this inquiry which is crucial. professor turley, i will give you a chance to respond. i want to respond to the first question of bribery. counsel for the minority read johns johnson s definition of high crimes and misdemeanors, he did not read the definition of bribery. i have the 1972 version. i don t have the initial one. he defines bribery as the crime of giving or taking rewards for bad practices. if you think it is a bad practice to deny military appropriations to an ally that have been given to him. if you think it is a bad practice not to hold al me meet. that s samuel johnson s definition of bribery. if washington were here today, if he were joined by madison hamilton and other framers, what do you believe he would say presented about evidence of president trump s conduct? as the exact kind of abuse of office of high crimes and misdemeanors they would worry about and they would want the house of representatives to take appropriate actions to impeach. they would find abuse of power? if the evidence supported those things in their minds and if congress determines that s what the evidence means then they believe strongly that s what congress is to do. i yield back my time. i recognize ranking member, gentleman from georgia. five minutes for questioning. this keeps getting more amazing. i think we just put in the jury pool of the founding fathers what would they think? i don t think we would have any idea of what they think because of the different times and different things we talked about. also to insinuate of a lot of people, the founding fathers would have found president trump guilty is just simply malpractice in these. that s just simply pandering to a camera. that s simply not right. i mean this is amazing. we candace agree. what s amazing on this committee is that we don t disagree on the feedback facts. whether going into the public testimony or the transcript. first of all, only i will speak for james madison. no, we all will speak for james madison about the same level of accuracy. that s what we get paid for. i want to note a couple of things. i do find it rather surprising that you would have george washington in this jury pool. i would strike him for cause. george washington was the first guy to raise extreme executive privilege claim ls. claims. if you are going to make a case over george washington with another head of state, i expect his hair and powder hair would catch on fire. i want to note one other thing. i am impressed of carrying an 18 century copy of johnson with you. it is just the online version. as an academic, i was darn impressed. i just want to know one thing that may explain part of our difference. statues today on bravery are written broadly just like they were back then. that was my point. the meaning of those words are subjected to interpretation, they re written broadly because they don t want it to be narrow. that s the case in the 1800 century as they are today. the idea of bad practices could be the definition of bribery, really? is that what you get from the constitutional convention that bad practices, is that why mason wanted to put him out the administration because bad practices is not broad enough. this is where i disagree. the other thing i want to note and i have so much respect for noah and i am ready to disagree at this point. i feel it is a circular argument to say well the constitution is law. the constitution refers to a crime to say you can t trump the constitution because it defines the crime. it does not define it. it references the crime. the examples that were given during the constitutional convention and those who do not comport with bad practices but real bribery. to say that the supreme court decisions on what constitute bribery is irrelevant is rad th odd. we have to decide if that crime is committed. i think one of the tinhings that came out a second ago and we had this discussion earlier, and members of the president s cabinet to assert privileges and we talked and fast and furious of obama. you can t pick and choose history of what you want to have. i think you made a statement and it was brought up of bad practices. it is also the law of the land that we are supposed to ensure that countries given aid are not corrupt. this is also something that s missing from this discussion. if the president has had a long seeded distrust, yaiukraine and others with the history of corruption. 68% of those polls in the ukraine over the previous years have bribed public officials. it came back to the obama administration and our rule is they have to actually look at corruption before giving taxpayers dollars. the president have been doing that. we found in the hearing that facts don t matter if we are trying to fit into the rule of law. the reason we are doing this is the train is on the track. this is a clock/calendar impeachment, not a fact impeachment. i yield back. the gentleman yields back. i recognize miss loughlof lofgr. i was a staff during the nixon impeachment and the clinton impeachment and here we are today. at its core, the impeaching power is about preservation of our democratic system. the question we must answer is whether the activity of the president threatens our constitution and our democracy. it is about whether he s above the law or whether he s honoring his oath of office. the house judiciary committee staff and it was not me, it was other staff, wrote an excellent report in 1964. impeachment of the president is a grave step for the nation. the proper performance of constitutional duties of the president s office. thank you mr. chairman. like president nixon, the allegations against president trump involves seriousness election related misconduct. nixon associates burglarized the dnc headquarters and nixon tried to cover up the crime by obstructing federal investigations and he abused his power to target political rivals here. here we are confronted with evidence suggesting that president trump tried to leverage appropriated assistance to resist russia by ukraine to convince a foreign ally to announce an investigation of his political rival. professor karlan, i would like you to tell me your view on how president trump conduct meaning his request of the former allies, how is that compares to what president nixon did? not favorably. as i suggested in my opening statement, it was a kind of doubling down. president nixon abused domestic law enforcement to go after his political opponents. what president trump has done based on the evidence that he asked a foreign country to do that. it is sort of like a daily double if you will. right. professor, gerhardt? what we are talking about is abusive of power. only the president can commit. there was a systematic conserve effort by the president to remove people that would somehow obstruct or block his ability to put that pressure on ukraine to get the announcement. that seems to be what he cared about, the mere announcement, that pressure produced that was going to produce the outcome he wanted until the whistleblower put a light on it. i want to go back to quickly to something professor turley said, as we saw in the myers case and i was a member in the case. litigation to enforce congressional subpoenas, it is well belong beyond the terms of the presidency itself, happening in both of those cases. professor feldman, an abuse of our power not to go to the courts before use our soul power impeachment of judgment? certainly not. under the constitution, the house is entitled to impeach its power. it does not have to ask permission from anybody. it does not have to go through any judicial process or judicial branch of government. that s your decision based on your judgment. thank you, i would like to know this is not a proceeding that i look forward to. it is not an occasion for joy. it is one of solemn obligation. i believe that every member of this committee is listening, keeping an open mind and hoping that we honor our obligations carefully and with that, i yield back. gentle lady yields back. we are expecting votes in the house shortly. we ll recess until after the conclusion of those votes chl. i ask everyone in the room to remain seated and quiet while the witnesses exit the room. the committee will stay in recess until immediately after the votes. we have been watching ranking member doug collins of georgia leading the questioning of the republicans, professor turley, we saw the gop staff councils jumped in about three quarters of the way through. most of the questioning seemed to really at best. none of the facts are in question. it is amazing but even the republicans will not spend a second debating the fact pattern which seems in their view to be proven beyond any doubt. this exercise, the judiciary committee taken us all to school for non-lawyers. it is more enjoyable than i thought would have been. it seems that the pendulum for the republicans is whether or not, what is alleged has been proven and if it is proven impeachable. do i have it right? you have it right nicole. we saw it in the pre-butal. what they said explicitly in that is their colleagues using the defense, once, there is no impeachable act and insufficient evidence which is sort of like saying that the only reason it is not impeachable because you can t prove it. it seems less than that. it is not that it did not sneak out to take your car. you didn t run the video tape yet to show you, me getting into the car. turley was not saying it was not is this getting jumbled, pursuiing the witnesses. i think what we are struggling with is this is a republican party trying to defend the president without any facts or evidence that supports the defense so what you are left with is professor turley making broad constitutional arguments without actually going into the facts of this case. what he just says is look, you can t have an impeachment unless there is an under lineback crim. i got hit in the head of deja vu. is that the same statement of william barr s ba? your mind is not playing tricks on you. we are all trying to be fair. i said that this hearing could be better for republican intelligence. i think it is. no one is as silly as devin nunes on this committee. and they can get into valid arguments of things that are bad but not impeachable. i said it early on air for folks who s been through with us. i thought this was extraordinary weak for the republicans and professor turley largely because rather than interpreting the constitution which is what everyone claims they are supposed to be doing. we heard a lot of jonathan t turley s idea proposed amendment constitution. until he gets those constitutions, alluded to one. the constitution we have all talked about this and constitution says you can be impeached for things that are not felonies because they are called high crimes and misdemeanors. most people remember it from school or like middle school. high crimes and misdemeanors. mr. turley says that s cool. that s interesting. not what the constitution stays. mr. turley prefers a slow investigation than a fast one. cool. that s cool. he s saying go to court. you are jump ahead of me. he would not like that. third he said that the kourcour should be adjudicating this process. tha that s not a constitutional. it is not a president and it is not a constitution. there are times people could debate in good faith because you think it is fair? sure. i can tell you. i can give you an example, okay, what is this all about? take trump out of it and take your feelings about trump. imagine on a hypothetical president abuse us lethal power that there is a rush to remove him or her that they start killing people and abuse power. so there are times fast is good and maybe slow is more fair. these were not and i thought it was so weak for the republicans and really weak, it is criticism of the witnesses. it was the witness they put so much stock in saying, i hear you on the constitution, i have other ideas. i don t think that moves the needle much. what is an impeachable offense and how much evidence from the intelligence committee report suggests that the president was trying to abuse his office to cheat the election. i don t know the answer of each of these. this did seem like the republicans trying to showcase on television their best arguments but as ari and their best argument is really narrow and the guy giving it is really couching it and hedging, oh, i like trump even as my dog. if we change the constitution a little tiny bit, maybe he s on the clear. maybe a constitution amendment to permit dogs to vote. golden doodles. there are time you have to move very fast. people are dying because of the president s misconduct. we don t have that, i believe. there are also times where you have to be narrow. turley is not playing that this is fast and narrow. one of the reasons it is narrow because the president and the white house have stood in the way. so you complain it is fast and narrow when the primary reason it is narrow is you. it seems again reminiscing republicans trying to blame the democrats or other side if you will for their own sense and trans congressi transgression. so extraordinary convenient argument. i think mr. turley had one fair point. i think the professors at harvard and stanford had the day. an article of impeachment should not be predicated only when a president are asked questions. if there are only bad faith to go to court and you are arguing for those positions, maybe then it is an article of impeachment. he was simply saying and i would love to follow up if i had the opportunity. if he s saying that an article should not be predicated on a good faith assertion of the legal rights to be decided boo i the court. i cut you off. i think chuck is right and it goes baa k ck to one of the arguments he was making in the fast and furious case. remember what he leaves off the table that s an important fact is in fast figuuriousfurious, t administration turned documents into congress. for one other thing, we also said it was also wrong. police said we have not had an impeachment with the app of an under line crime. there was not an under line crime in andrew johnson impeachment. i just have to say that. it ignores the facts. i agree but i also disagree. i am getting a little hot here. bring it. there is a larger stupidity that s important. americans are watching. you don t need an under line crimes remove of the president. you don t. and the reason is very simple. there are also thing that is are criminal but not abusive power. it is a felony to deface a mailbox. drink and drive. that one is even dangerous. any president could go out on fifth avenue, don t shoot anyone. i don t think it is impeachable. and yet right that would be the crime with what turley said. on the flip side, you have a use of power, this is really important for everyone to understand. why? because most citizens don t have those powers to wheel. they always pass laws saying you can t steel, it is money for our foreign country. most people are not in position to see and appropriate those funds. the rules have been in the doj because the president enforces the law to one person that s not indicted in office. who indicts the president? the congress. that s what it is. that s how the system works. for this professor who knows so much, back in impeachment of president clinton. he suggests that somehow you still got a double backs of the courts. i think it is important that medi people know that. he didn t lay out a constitutional valid one or at least part of his testimony. jason johnson is here. he s been spending time on the republican witness as he was questioned by congressman collins and lawndale bit of that time. i am struck by two things. one, we can t ignore the circus, the split screen circus that we are living in. the president lacked off of a continent and i think our friends did this morning. this lawyer that johnny turley doing his best to argue a narrow narrow, he and - if you step back the day has been a day for the democrats. and the professors who were there as witnesses called. yeah, nicole. first and for most for the president at the nato meeting. do you know how little respect you must have for boris johnson to laugh at you. we had the collection of war leaders sitting, oh my god, this guy is so ridiculous. that s indicative of how problematic for the president regardless of what he may want to say across the board. if you are being impeached at home, it does affect your ability to do your job. and our last segment, i talked about yeah, this is a day for college professor like me. this is a day where we are reminded of the problem with college professors. their ability to this is why i love you, jason. the last 45 i was like oh my god, i i would not lasted three weeks. the two h. s are already asleep and saying why didn t i go to business school, right? it does not make sense for the public at large who s trying to understand it. e plain that. i was trying to get that. so basically what he s saying and you look at the comparison for example, he was in favor of impeaching bill clinton. he was lying of something that actually happened in the oval office. his argument today is because donald trump was not successful successfulaccessfully building the money. we all understand that you can get in trouble for the attempts to engage in bad behavior. if there is one thing that regular people understood about the process, impeachmentment is not the court of law. impeachment is a political process. the president can do all sorts of things that regular people go to jail for. the whole process is do you break a law. it is has he broken a law that he becomes the dangerous functioning of the the democracy. this is not a good day for republicans at all. democrats can t screw this up at this point. i want to come back at the topic of getting laughed at the world stage. we are joined by bob acosta, washington post. do we have this right that the finest articulation that we have seen so far in terms of what the republicans are arguing and will argue, is what the professor is doing. he s simply arguing a technical case that it has not reach an impeachable level. is that from your conversation with sources sort of the thinking republicans to the degree. is that their best argument? do they think that s being made today? i just got back from the capitol hill and talking to republican lawmakers. but, it is not the important republican action right now on capitol hill. the action to pay attention to is pat cipollone is having lunch right now. and you have cipollone urging senate republicans to be come gres si aggressi aggressive. he s been told by some of the people he trusted most and he ll be impeachmented. how are they likely to feel about reports that rudy giuliani did again. democrats intense by their scrutiny of rudy giuliani s role in the pressure campaign against ukraine government, rudy giuliani has been in europe continuinging his efforts to sh the focus of wrong doing by president trump s political rival, is this helpful? it is not helpful at all. now inside the capitol, they know they have to try to keep it together with moderate republicans in the house. thesis are representing suburban district and say this is a bridge too far. you see vice president pence, at the capitol and urging them to stick together and stick with president trump and that s the rallying cry coming from the vice president as he tries to hold these people together. the face that they put on in terms of support for donald trump having a lot to do with their fears of tweets and boris johnson and justin trudeau and macron. i know a little bit working for the president whose policies are scored on the world s stage. our president being a laughing stock on the world s stage. there is an exception of the republican ranks, this president is going to be how he operated and he s not going to change his behavior. they would like to see more emphasises on nato. they do not believe they can break from this as 2020 approaches. they tell me to get through the primary fight and win elections. they have to get the support and get core voters turning out. bob acosta, thank you for your thanks for spending some time with us. we will sneak in a very quick break. don t 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go ask the president for help for aid to help you and the president said, no, unless you do something for me. and i think we have that example in puerto rico. absolutely. americans have lived through that. that s right. but this is what she did, she made it real, she made it connectible. but grounded in the law and constitutional injujurisprudenc that we would say. and the other clip was the clap back. and she said don t disrespect me. we also saw that from marie yovanovitch who had to learn from adam schiff that the president was nastily tweeting about her in an intimidating way and she had to sit there for the rest of the day. few of us would have the power to do that. and then of course fiona hill who was very strong and even when she was essentially being indirectly attacked, about hate and people who hate and people who didn t get the job they wanted, and she said i wish he was still hear to matter that i degree but, hate is the problem and we should you ve past it. that is the moral grounding and common sense, but embodied in power that all these women demonstrated. i know you agree, you are nodding. but i also want to put you on the spot. there is power to what chairman nadler has laid out today. and it stands in contrast to what mueller was able to lay out. i mean, this case for impeachment, and i suppose good people can come to different feelings about what we know trump did is indeed impeachable, but chairman nadler has put together people who can tell a story, something that the mueller report in terms of sort of a lack of witnesses was never able to achieve. the mueller report was bulky. and ironically the mueller report addresses all of turley s concerns. that is true. the mueller report was anything but narrow and anything but fast. but yes, i agree with you, sometimes it is in the telling of the steeory. and most people didn t read the report and it was hard to read. i m not sure today i fully understand it. so i think that this has been very well presented. by the way, i had made a note earlier, i wrote down fiona hill, marie yovanovitch and pamela carlan because all three were so impressive. and extraordinary storytellers. and i have to give points to the chairman to be totally blunt here, there were low expectations for what this committee would do and privately i think there was some concern that they might not be able to
ago. in his bilateral meeting with the iraqi president, we should points out this is the first time that the president has spoken with an iraqi official face to face since the president ordered the takedown of the iranian general qassem soleimani. in the wake of that the iranian parliament passed a resolution saying it wanted all u.s. troops out of the country. president trump raised the idea of leveling sanctions on iraq if the united states wasn t treated well. the president was asked about both of those things this morning just a couple of minutes ago. let s listen to what he said. what is the plan to iraq. we re talking about a lot of different things. you will be hearing whatever we do. they like what we are doing. and we like them. we have had a very good relationship. i can only speak for my administration. and we are down to a very low number. we re down to 5,000. so we are down to a very low number. historically low. we will see what happens. are you still considering sanctions against iraq? we will see what happens. because we do have to do things on our terms. we will see what happens. they do have to do things on their terms as he does with the united states as well. saleh, we should point out, he is a kurd, but he was skill concerned about what the repercussions of taking out soleimani will be, so we will keep following that into the future and see where that relationship goes. the president worked late into the night but so did his legal team there in washington. the president woke up this morning and just as finishing up in the senate. on his way into the conference center the president was asked what he thought about the proceedings so far. listen here. mr. president, good morning, are you happy with your legal team? they are doing a very good job. did you watch the trial. we have a great case. senate in earnest. the president will be leaving on air force one in about an hour s time. so the president will be most of the way back to the united states by the time things get underway. he will get to watch some of it on air force one. some of it at the white house, too. when he gets right back. we have this hastily called news conference, steve, ainsley, and pete that i have got to run to. pass it back to you. break down and go live from there. steve: john roberts live from a little afternoon. go ahead and take off the microphone. take the thing out of your ear. turn around and run down the mountain. do you want me to run up the stairs of the library in philadelphia again? steve: you already did that and it was a classic cable moment. ainsley: thank you, john. we are expecting impromptu press conference the president is going to speak soon. broadcast it live to you. the president will go to zerich will he will board air force one and head back home. pete: seen this before on the world stage. as things unfold the president wants to put a cherry on top of the proceedings and provide his point of view after a couple days dog on the worlkaycupdays. he spoke to maria bartiromo which will air on the channel very shortly. here is a portion of what he said. he is wasting his money. he is not going to win. he can t. he is a terrible speaker. he can t speak properly. he is not a charismatic guy. he has got money. he will spend as much money as he can. hillary clinton about bernie she said no one likes him. no one wants to work with him. he gets nothing done. pelosi has anymore jury duty. are they colluding against bernie. when hillary says nobody likes him. nobody likes her. that s why she lost. nobody liked her. and it wasn t even close. 306 to 223. she is the one that people don t like. i think if i had my choice, in terms of personality, i might take him over her. but i probably would take neither. [laughter] steve: the he was referring to at the very beginning was mike bloomberg, former mayor of the city that the president used to live in new york city. ainsley: said he is wasting his money. steve: wasting his money, indeed. what s interesting about that particular clip and see the entirety of what he spoke to maria about was he didn t really talk much about impeachment. we saw him walk through the hall there and he said i got a great team. i ve got a great case. yesterday when asked about it he simply said it was a hoax. he is not getting into the nuts and bolts. clearly that is a legal and political strategy. don t get into the weeds while it s going on. pete: focus on the great work being done in the economy and the and everything that he has showcased at davos. ainsley: he was tweeting jobs, jobs, jobs. brad parscale who is running his campaign will be on today. there was an article, an interview with the guy who helped bloomberg win all the mayoral interviews in new york. kevin she canny. he said right now if the election was held i think president trump is probably reelected and then he complimented brad running a campaign in six states. not just running a national campaign and doing exceptionally well. steve: we should see the president of the united states, we are going to have impromptu news conference and currently brad brad parscale scheduled to be with us this hour as well. it s 6:06 here in the east. it was 4 hours ago. about 2:00 in the morning that day one of the impeachment hearing concluded and there you can see one of the escalators below the u.s. senate. ainsley: yeah. the chief justice is going to go get some sleep and then he has cases this morning supreme court and have to be back at the senate. senators approving the rules after nearly 12 hours of debate it. got so heated at one point that chief justice john roberts had to step in. i think it is appropriate at this point for me to admonish both the house managers and the president s counsel in equal terms to remember that they are addressing the world s greatest deliberative body. steve: he said that after jerry nadler was talking about how if these senators here do not go ahead and vote to allow witnesses, then they are complicit, they are obstructing justice. they are part of the cover-up. pete: that s right. the president s team pushed back on that. the chief justice had something to say. griff, you are live from statuary hall with the moments good night, good morning, whatever it is. they say nothing good happens after midnight. that s why shortly before 1:00 a.m. chief justice roberts had to reign things in citing a 1905 precedent when the house manager used the word pedi fogging putting undue amount of emphasis on petty details. the dishonesty accusations of the house managers part of that here is some of what we heard from messrs nadler and schiff. i see a lot of senators voting for a cover-up. voting to deny witnesses and absolutely indefensible. obviously a treacherous vote. president trump gave his word he would drain the swamp. you have seen his personal lawyer go to jail. his campaign chairman go to jail. his deputy campaign chairman convicted of a different crime. the list goes on and on. he was also, chief justice roberts upset with the personal attacks at one point. pat cipollone leading the white house team taking a stab at nadler. it wasn t the first time we heard from trump s defense team and their case that they were making that basically the discovery period is over. listen. the time for the house managers to bring their case is now. they had their chance to develop their evidence before they sent the articles of impeachment to this chamber. they are asking you to use your office to remove your political opponent from the ballot. that s wrong. that s not in the interest of our country. and to be honest with you, it s not really a show of confidence. 3:00 a.m. they passed down party lines 53-47 majority leader mcconnell s framework for this trial. mcconnell hasn t ruled out witnesses. we could possibly get there next week. 11 mention by minority leader schumer shot down no. republican crossing the aisle except for one senator susan collins on one amendment allowing briefs, making that a 52 40eu 8 vote. really only time will tell whether or not schumer s strategy of trying to get all this throughout in what was a marathon day will work or not. it all resumes again at 1:00 today with a lot of sleepy senators and certainly an exhausted chief justice i presume. guys? steve: thank you very much, griff. luckily it s so exciting. if you watched some of it snippets. we are showing you the good stuff. it was unbelievably boring. i don t know people can follow it. ainsley: basically republicans approve the rules. democrats over and over and over. we want witnesses. we want witnesses. schumer wants 11 different things. different amendments. including subpoenaing mick mulvaney and including subpoenaing john bolton. the republicans have said no, no, no, no, no. some republicans are saying maybe in the next phase we ll there are those holdouts, those that might vote with the democrats on this. the democrats, if they all 45 vote for witnesses, if those two independents vote for witnesses all it would take is four republicans to say yes. and then there would be witnesses. right now republicans are saying no. pete: we will see what happens with that we watched so that you don t have to watch the entire thing. if you watched it, you felt like you were watching opening arguments. those haven t even started yet. this is just the debate over the rules. i was sitting back last night thinking this is a circus. my wife jen corrected me. at least sir curses are entertaining. this is just a show you know how it s going to end 53-47 on every vote. now you have three days to endure of the house managers, the democrats making their case. ainsley: i don t think the majority people watched they turned to us to be able to summarize it for them because it was so long. steve: turned it on oh, wait, didn t i hear this a couple weeks ago? don t i know how this is going to end? pete: hear it again tomorrow? steve: yesterday, actually, with some of the opening arguments we heard yesterday and the day before very clear what the talking points are. unless they allow witnesses, which are supposed to be interviewed during the house procedure because the senators just sit there as the jurors and figure out okay, they presented all this stuff democrats going after if the republicans don t allow witnesses, it s a cover-up. they are implicit. there is no due process and that is regarding what adam schiff was talking about all day and your state senator lindsey graham tweeted about it last night. ainsley: he said quite frankly having adam schiff lecture the senate about fairness and due process is like listening to an arsonist talking about fire prevention. pete: he is not wrong. i felt the same way watching. the tone of schiff and nadler was this lecturing shaming tone of senators like do your job. uphold your oath. ainsley: meanwhile they didn t do their job. they should have called witnesses in the house. pete: that s the hypocrisy. is that really affective? are senators going to be shamed by house members you? are right i just advocated my responsibility. i will have to cross the aisle and vote with you adam schiff. it doesn t feel effective. ainsley: they made really good points that drove it home for me. the house have the ability by the to impeach. they did that they sent their impeachment over to the senate and then they go and argue. they are not supposed to call witnesses. i heard lawyer after lawyer say if you this in a regular trial. if you came to trial and say i want to call witnesses. they would say you don t even have a case. that s what the president s team said. pat cipollone, who is the president s lawyer said this is supposed to be a trial. they want new witnesses because they can t prove their case. and then jay sekulow said even if they did come. even if you subpoena mike mulvaney and john bolton, they are not allowed to talk. they are protected because the constitution says they are advising the president and those conversations are executive privilege. steve: they want the argument they want to have that political argument if front of the country over whether or not mic mulvaney. pete: is it in front of the country if it happens at 1:00 a.m. steve: prime time out on the west coast. pete: c-span prime time. steve: remember in the run up to this and the vote in the house. the democrats said the secretary of defense overwhelming. now they are saying we need more evidence. we need more witnesses. the president did sit down the last two hours with maria bartiromo and talked about this the hypocrisy of what s going on in d.c. who knows? but, if this were president obama instead of president trump, if this were the other side, people would have long ago been in jail. i will till we have a great attorney general. he is highly respected. he is a highly ethical man. self-doing a fantastic job. let s see how it comes out. nancy pelosi is a disgrace to our country and ought to spend more time trying to look at san francisco which is going to hell. you look at what is going on in san francisco. people don t even recognize it as a city. steve: one of the things that apparently is going on behind the scenes in the the washington post apparently some democratic senators are doing some negotiating. they are talking about actually trading hunter biden s testimony for john bolton. how does joe biden feel about that? joe, call us. just curious. pete: i have seen that sounds like behind the scenes. not any sort of official negotiation at that point. ainsley: does that mean republicans are extremely confident about what john bolton would say? steve: no. democrats are desperate to get him on the stage. pete: that s right. ainsley: they are desperate for impeachment. they don t care if it s throwing the bidens under the bus. steve: after they had two votes the vote to start on the amendments, the republicans won all and now we move on to day 2. 1:00 this afternoon you will see it right here on fox. coming up. ainsley: thousands of assessment supporters rallied in virginia. that hasn t stopped democrats from advancing new gun laws. pete: tomi lahren is live and she is coming up next. steve: no coffee allowed during the impeachment. but there is a candy drawer. we are going to tell you the story behind that sweet surprise coming up on fox & friends. day two impeachment p palooza. oh, honey awe, sugar sugar robin hood and little john runnin through the forest laughin back and forth at what the other ne has to say there s a booking for every resolution. book yours at booking.com there s a booking for every resolution. 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control your rights and freedoms will be under attack as we are seeing in virginia and even the thousands of people marching saying we don t want our rights infringed on they will be ignored. the democrats have the votes so they will go onward. that s why we need to be more active in pursuit of better election results. steve: you mentioned due process. the question is with these red flag laws, who decides a gun will be taken away from somebody? that s what it comes down to. is it a doctor? is it when your neighbor calls my neighbor is scaring me you should come and take their guns? who should decide. that s what s terrifying for a lot of gun right activists and americans concerned about their freedoms in general. you know, as trump supporters, we are often seen as dangerous by those who don t agree with us. are we going to have somebody call in and say we are dangerous because we are trump supporters because they call us all kinds of names. that s the snowball effect that a lot of gun rights activists are concerned about with these red flag laws. again, they start with red flag laws. this is not with are they are going to stop. they have a whole list of things they want to do a whole list of infringements. this the is first one. the one they find most palatable. it will continue on and on and on. and any incorporate fringement should worry about gun rights activists. ainsley: if you seen the red flag and reported red flag some of these school shootings might not have happened. you don t infringe on someone s right to have a gun or a neighbor that doesn t like the other guy because of politics calling and taking his gun away. what s coming up on no interruption on fox nation? well, again, again, it s all about freedom as we normally talking talk about on fox nation. i actually sat down with the young leader young leaders against socialism. on a project to interview those who survived socialism and communism and she is telling the stories and i m telling hers. ainsley: i think we have a clip. i talk to a lot of young people like you do, they don t know what socialism. i have seen opportunity to show them what it really. i watched venezuela collapse under socialism. they want big government to control you. they want to take away your freedom. we allow socialism to take over this country, we are all doomed. steve: that looks like a young person. the first one you spoke to from campus on college campuses though the wave of socialism and the acceptance of that idea has really caught on in the last couple of years. it has. and that s why morgan, the young lady that i talked to like myself throughout trying to educate young people. they believe they like socialism because they don t know what socialism is. if we can get through to them and tell stories of those who have lived through it and survived it and they can tell those stories in a very real world example we are hoping we can change lives and shave it country. we can never be a socialist nation. pete: tomi, we are waiting for a press conference. the president is still in davos. is he going to address the press. when he does, we will take it. weigh on if you would how young people watch the president overseas talking about our gang busters economy versus what is happening in the senate effective layoff retirement home debates whether he should be impeached. how are young people seeing this? unfortunately a lot young people aren t seeing it as well as a lot of americans aren t seeing it as you talked about earlier. this is deja vu we have heard this over and over and over again. not just for weeks but for years now. the american people and sick and tired of it. it s always great when we have the president address these people and have press conferences. the people need to hear from their president. he says it best. is he always very clear and very direct. i hope young people are listening because this man is doing great things for our country he has had to endure an endless witch-hunt that s not going to stop in the coming weeks or after he is reelected. we will see this happen again after we have this president reelected in 2020 they will never stop because their obsession and trump derangement syndrome completely overtakes their reason and love of country. ainsley: what do you make of the contrast he is davos. last week signing china deal and usmca. all the democrats are embedded in impeachment in washington. stark contrast. a lesser president would let this affected them far more and might be hindered from doing presidential duties and making this nation great again. our president isn t. is he rolling along and dealing with impeachment witch-hunt but also doing great things for this country. he will not stop doing great things for the american people. he realizes he is under attack more than anything. he realizes that the american people runsd attack when we are going after a president and the administration is doing great things for the american people. he is going to keep going. that s what we expect from this president and that s why he will be reelected again. is he you will hand links well. steve: look at the polls. his approval rating going up, tomi. absolutely. because he is still doing great things for this nation. and he is going to continue to do those things. i think the american people are really bored with this. i think they are really tired of hearing the show boating from the democrats who don t want to talk about their own presidential nominee. they would much rather talk about donald trump and go after this president than talk about the socialist that their party wants to elect into the white house. they would much rather talk about that because they quite frankly have nothing else to talk about. it s not doing good things for them but the alternative might be far worse. so they are picking this race and it s going to be a loser for them. then again, they don t have much else. steve: we will see what else. pete: waiting for press conference from the president in davos. we are not hearing much coverage about the democratic primary. which are what are we two and a half weeks from iowa? steve: it s still early. the press conference is supposed to happen two minutes ago. we think it s going to happen two minutes from now. we will take a two minute break or so and we ll be back with more fox & friends. everything your trip needs for everyone you love. expedia. for everyone you love. car vending machines and buying a car 100% online.vented now we ve created a brand new way for you to sell your car. whether it s a year old or a few years old, we want to buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate, answer a few questions, and our techno-wizardry calculates your car s value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you re ready, we ll come to you, pay you on the spot, and pick up your car. that s it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at 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deadly and contagious virus from china made its way into the u.s. president trump weighed in trying to calm the fears. we have one person right now as you know and quarantined and we got lucky, actually. we are in great shape. cdc did a fantastic job. immediately got the person. and we think we are in good shape. so do you think that people should be worried when they are traveling the airport? no. not at all. i don t think they should be worried. steve: the cdc centers for disease control said that the man that the president is talking about is in thinks 30 s is in isolation in washington state after traveling from china. he is doing all right at this point. officials are trying to track down others he may have affected in the united states. ainsley: nine people have died and 440 have contracted the virus. here to explain exactly what the virus is fox news medical correspondent marc siegel. we saw those images of people going checking temperature and heart rate we thought oh, sorry for them but it s not in america. now we are learning it is. should would he be worried? we shouldn t be worried because of what the president said. is he absolutely right. we have to calm fears. fear is a second virus here. and if we get panicked over this we are going to spread more virus because we take fewer precautions. our centers for disease control do what s called contract casing. where they look to see who this patient was in contact with over the past few days. here s the problem. they can screen you at the airport but can you go three or four days without having symptoms after you are infected. that s a very hard part of this. that s called a pro-dream. that s what i m particularly worried about. who were you in contact before. the other problem is that the chinese officials are not necessarily fully forthcoming here. with how many people are infected. i think the way that this is spreading that it s probably over 1,000 people and may be more deaths than nine. i m concerned about that. we don t know how contagious yet and we don t know how deadly yet. steve: we just put the symptoms for the coronavirus fever, sore throat, runny nose, cough, headache. that presents itself like the flu and it s flu season. flu season in china, too. historically people saying this is so much like sars. sars was from. anna: mall to a person. they thought this was from animal to person. now it turns out it can be person to person. it s because these viruses change all the time. they mutate. and then they come into a form that s much easier to spread. we don t have a treatment for this. we don t have a vaccine. i talked to tony fouchy yesterday. a vaccine is in the works but a couple years away. steve: mark, thank you very much. we are going to go right now to breaking news. ainsley: the president is holding a news conference before he leaves davos. is he work walking up to the podium. good afternoon, we have had a tremendous two days here. we will be heading right back after this conference and just concluded some additional meetings. we have had a lot of them. and davos has treated us really beautifully. it s been a tremendous success. everybody is talking about america s unprecedented economic success. it s really the talk of the town so to speak. sings my election, america has gained over 7 million new jobs. the unemployment rate is now the lowest in over half a century. the average unemployment rate for my administration is the lowest of any u.s. president in recorded history. which is very nice. we have some good ones. we have some bad ones too by the way. unemployment rates among african-american, hispanic american. asian americans has reached a record low in the history of our country. the lowest. african-american youth unemployment has reached the lowest in the history of our country. so proud of that. african-american poverty numbers have plummeted to their lowest rate ever reported. doing really well. unemployment rate for women has reached the lowest level in almost 70 years. and the veterans unemployment rate dropped to a record low. unemployment rate for disabled americans has reached its all-time record. workers without a high school diploma have received achieved the lowest unemployment rate from history. so important. without a high school diploma we have a lot of great people that don t have a high school diploma so we have record low unemployment. a record number of young americans are now employed. we have the highest number of people working in our country than we have ever had before. we never had anything even close. almost up to 160 million. we lifted 10 million people off of welfare and, you know all about food stamps. we talk about it all the time. but millions and millions of people don t need food stamps anymore. it s not that we have lifted them off, which we have, but they don t need them anymore. they have jobs. they are doing really well. the u.s. stock markets have soared and they have reached the highest point that they have ever ever had. we have made at least $19 trillion in terms of wealth, in terms of wealth creation for our country. beyond the stock markets. and we are now by farther biggest economy in the world. china would have caught us. they were getting very close. it was anticipated in 2019 this is more many years i m not telling you any secrets by 2019 china would become the largest economy in the world. and right now we are much larger. but we have a great new deal with china. great deal. i would say our best relationship that we have ever had with china on top of everything else. and we re starting phase 2. phase one turned out to be much bigger than we anticipated because we have intellectual property protections. we have many of the financial deals and aspects of the financial deals that we wanted we got done. and other things. in addition to the farmers, we have got the total complete package for the farmers. and we think that we estimate that will be anywhere between 40 and $50 billion. the number, i think, is going to be closer to 50 billion. the most they have ever done is 16. so we go from 16 to anywhere from 40 to 50 billion that they will be purchasing. we are an economic power house like actually we have never been. jobs, factories, companies are pouring back into the united states. that s one of the reasons i have been in davos we have had conversations with other leaders of other countries. where we have traditionally had tremendous deficits. i see you have to move factories and plants. they took a lot of them. now they are going to move them back. they are not going to move them back. the companies are moving back. the companies want to be here. the countries understand we have to balance out our trade. we are doing incredibly well in that way. one of the people that was very important for me to meet from the world trade organization is roberto asvedo he is a highly respected man. he happens to be this gentleman right here. i thought i would have him say a few words. the organization dispute running with him for quite a while because our country hasn t been treated fairly. china is viewed as a developing nation. india is viewed as a developing nation. we are not viewed as a developing nation. we are a developing nation, too. they have tremendous advantages by the fact that they were considered developing and we weren t. and they shouldn t be. but if they are, we are. and we are talking about a whole new structure for the deal or we will have to do something. but, the world trade organization has been very unfair to the united states for many, many years. and without it, china wouldn t be china. china wouldn t be where they are right now. that was the vehicle that they used. and i give them great credit and i also don t give the people that were in my position great credit because frankly they let that all happen, but the vehicle was the world trade organization roberto and i have a tremendous relationship. we will do something that i think will be very dramatic. he will be coming with a lot of his representatives to washington some time maybe next week or the week after. and we will start working on it. so i would like to introduce just for briefly roberto and say a few words on behalf of the wto and then i m going to introduce larry kudlow to say exactly where we are in terms of our economy. some of you know but we have had some tremendous numbers just over the very recent past. so, please, roberto. thank you, mr. president. and i think it s fair to say that we have been saying for quite some time that if the multilateral system if the wgo is to deliver and perform it world in today s global economy, it has to be updated. it has to be changed. it has to be reformed. this is an agenda that is squarely before members. i don t think anybody in geneva misses the point. i think they understand that the system has not been functioning properly in many areas. that s something that we are trying to address. i m very happy that in the conversation today with president trump he agreed that this is something that needs to happen change. we are committed to effect those changes and this is something that we re serious about. and i am going to be, together with president trump, as soon as possible, discussing what needs to change, what needs to be affected in the wgo and we are committed to doing that of course, i will be talking to all the other wto members this is serious. this is a path we have to be on together if we want to make relevant and performing to today s requirements frankly. so thank you very much, mr. president. it s an honor to be with you and with everybody else. thank you. thank you. larry, please. larry kudlow. thank you, sir. i think we are coming into the new year with a lot of positive momentum in the economy. again, i wan i want to i want to repeat the speech lower tax rates across the board. deregulation, energy independence and breaking down trade barriers for better deals for exporting. just recently we have seen all the confident surveys are strong. consumer confidence, business confidence, small business confidence, the huge stock market rally which continues i believe is a sign of business and consumer confidence and predicting an even stronger economy in 2020. also lately housing markets are very strong, we have seen some huge numbers in new housing starts and existing and new home sales. that s a great omen. it s a leading indicator. and even with softness in manufacturing last year. we are seeing now the ihs market surveys for pmi manufacturing up four straight months for the u.s. and i think that s a terrific sign of a come back. i think the president s trade deals have inspired a lot of confidence among large and small businesses and i think it s going to add at least a half a point to g.d.p. this year. i think we are going to be moving into the 3% zone. we still have to cope with the slow down in boeing. we will see how that plays out. i think usmca and the china deals are going to add a lot to growth this year and the years ahead and the great part about this to me, i have been around for a while look under the hood with this growth spiri spurt. virtually no inflation which itself is a remarkable development it, is the american middle class it, is the american blue collar middle class, they have the fastest wage growth and, in fact, the lower wage folks are getting the fastest wage increases, exceeding significantly from what their managers are making. and i would add, also, as the president has indicated, in the stock market rally i know it s commonplace it say it only helps a few rich people, that s just not true over half the households in this country own shares through 401(k)s and iras and brokerage accounts you look at the numbers and a great slide book on this the bottom 50% has had 47% increase in their net wealth consumer net wealth between home prices and share prices and that is a booster rocket for this economy. it not only gives them confidence. it gives them some serious spending power. and consumer spending numbers bear it out. so ours is an optimistic message and i think the president really carried the day in his speech yesterday. thank you, sir. thank you very much, larry. when you think that soon it will start pretty soon. it s already started to a certain extent. i asked them to do it. china is going to be purchasing more than $250 billion worth of goods from our country. that s massive. those are numbers that nobody has ever heard of before. and that number can grow. it can grow. with time it s going to grow substantially, i predict. and then you have the usmca, mexico, canada and that s massive numbers we are talking about there. and we made a deal with japan, $40 billion and we made a deal with south korea, that s a tremendous deal also, that was a horrible deal and we turned it into a really good deal. so it was really something. while we were in davos, most of you know this, we met with the world leaders, various world leaders, including the president of the european commission who we are going to start negotiating a trade deal with because the european commission was frankly in many ways tougher than china. i say that respectfully but that s the tway is. they have taken advantage for a long time. so we will have a deal i suspect. we are going to be make a deal otherwise we will have to do something else. i think they are going to make a deal. they haven t wanted to negotiate with past presidents but they are going to negotiate with me. the president of the swiss con federation who has been very nice and terrific. the president of kurdistan. we had a tremendous meeting. along with president sauli of iraq. prime minister khan of pakistan, and president ghani of afghanistan. in addition we met with many of the business leaders, both at breakfast today and lunch yesterday. and dinner yesterday. many of you were at those meetings at least for a little while. and tremendous numbers of jobs will be coming into the united states. a lot of these leaders, these are the biggest business leaders in the world. and this morning was very especially. i mean, thes -inspirational.tl and we have companies from europe, companies from asia now coming to the united states. that s where the action is, as one of them said. that s where the action is it s really been great. and now we will be going, we will be leaving and going back to washington. okay? yes. mr. president, [inaudible] go ahead. mr. president, do you want to hear from witnesses in the impeachment trial? your team i will tell you the way i look on it. it s a total hoax. it s a disgrace. they talked their tremendous case. and it s all done, their tremendous case. they had no case. it s all a hoax. it s a con job like schiff. he is a corrupt politician. now, i will leave that to the senate. the senate is going to have to answer that i have great respect for the senate as a body and many of the individuals. i have great respect. so i will leave that to the senate. but this is the greatest witch-hunt. this started from the day i came down with the future first lady. the day we came down the escalator this started. and i watched the they have been driven crazy. do you know what s driven them crazy all of these record numbers on unemployment, african-american, asian-american, you take a look, hispanic american numbers that nobody is even believing. they looking at all of this and looking at the tremendous success, the likes of which they have never seen before in this country. they have never seen anything like this. and it s driven the democrats crazy. as congressman al green said. he is a beauty. congressman green said we got to beat him by impeachment because we can t beat him in the election. and i hope that s true because honestly they can t beat me in the election. i don t think they can. i know what i will be running against one way or the other, it s one of them. and i think we are going to do very well. i think we are going to do well because nobody has done in the first three years, less than three years because a lot of these numbers were taken from two months ago, the end of two months ago, in less than three years, nobody has done the kind of numbers we have done. so i m going to head back and i will be watching it. it s really going to be up to the senate and we will have them make that determination. yes, mr. president, you were the keynote speaker here but you shared some of the spotlight with a scanned scandinavian teen greta van grea thunberg how said. i didn t say anger, i said anger management. she had some very strong words here that the united states and other industrialized countries need to do more. do you still feel that you are doing enough? how old is she? she is 17. that s good. what is your response. she beat me out on time magazine. did you hear from other world leaders and business leaders that they state that she has a message. no, i didn t, actually. i would have loved to have seen her speak. did i not. i think what is aspects of it are. i think that some penal are they put it at a level that is unrealistic to a point you can t live your lives. we want to have the cleanest water on earth. we want to have the cleanest air on earth. the numbers as you saw we had record numbers come out very recently. our numbers are very, very good. our environmental numbers. our water numbers are numbers on air are tremendous. we have to do something about other continents. we have to do something about other countries. when we are clean and beautiful and everything is good but you have another continent where the fumes are rising at levels that you can t believe. i mean, i think greta ought to focus on those places. but we are doing better right now than we have ever done in terms of cleanliness and in terms of numbers. we have a beautiful ocean called the pacific ocean with thousands and thousands of tons of garbage flows towards us and that s put there by other countries. so i think greta has to started working on those other countries. by the way, congratulations on your show. thank you very much. they made a very wise decision. thank you very much. we invite you for an interview whenever you are available. can i ask you just to be clear and it s for future presidents, is abuse of power an impeachable offense? well, you are going to talk to the lawyers about it. but i will tell you there is nothing here. i had a very innocent conversation with a very finer gentleman president of ukraine and it was based on that. i got to watch glimpses between these meetings i just talked to you about. i got to watch glimpses of what is taking place, wasting time in washington. and i watched. they don t talk about my conversation. they don t talk about my transcripts. remember this, when schiff made up the phony story and he peteed it to congress and the world and it was totally phony story, i released a transcript there was supposed to be a second whistleblower what happened to anymore wait, wait, otherwise i won t do your show. wait, there was supposed to be an informer. what happened to the informer? all of these people disappeared. when they saw this transcript, they said we have got problems. but they went ahead because they were already there because they had a phony concocted story made up. so here s the story. did nothing wrong. it was a perfect conversation, it was totally appropriate. the best lawyers in the world have looked at it. the department of justice has looked at it. given it a sign-off. there was nothing wrong. they never thought i was going to release the conversation. they probably didn t think we had transcribers or we had transcribed or taped. but they never thought we were going to release it. when we released that conversation, all hell broke out with the democrats because they say wait a minute, this is much different than shifty schiff told us. so, so we are doing very well. i got to watch enough. i thought our team did a very good job. honestly we have all the material. they don t have the material. i asked you because your attorney says it s not. alan dershowitz does not permit impeachment on abuse of power. criteria. for future presidents is abuse of power an impeachable offense? it depends. you take a look at this and from what everybody tells me, all i do i m hun national weather service. i make great deals. i have made great deals for our country. now working with the wto probably surprised by that long-term abusive situation. i make great deals for country and honest deals. when you read that transcription, and by the way, it wasn t one call, it was two calls. nobody likes to talk about that. there was one call which was perfect and then there was a second call, i guess a couple months later which i guess was perfect. the president of ukraine said it was perfect. the foreign minister of ukraine said it was perfect. so if we have a transcription, we have the call, and we have the person on the other side of the call saying it was good, now, here s the other thing, they got their money long before schedule. they got all their money. what nobody says is very important to me. why isn t germany paying? why isn t u.k. paying? why isn t france paying? why aren t the european nations paying? why is it always the sucker, united states, that s one and the other thing i wanted to check very carefully and it s very important is corruption. and we do that, too. this was a perfect call and i think we re doing very well. [shouting] china trade deal we expect human rights in hong kong to be part of this discussion. we are discussing that already, yes. we would like to see if we can do something. again, we are doing a trade deal and it s very big deal. phase one is done. phase 2 is being discussed. we are discussing aspects of your question, yes. mr. president. mr. president. the call was perfect. mr. president, thank you, just to clarify we know the senate will set the rules for witnesses, but what do you want? at one point you demanded witness by the way, i will tell you what i think, it s such a hoax, i think it s so bad for our country when we have the head of the world trade organization here and he has to listen to this nonsense about a call that was perfect. nobody talks about. i never see them talking about the transcription. i never see them talking about the call because there is nothing to say. you read it. somebody should sit there and read it. everybody is going to say you mean that s an impeachable event? if that were impeachable lyndon johnson would have have had to leave office in his first day. kennedy would have had to leave office his first day. it s a hoax. it s you understand it s a hoax better than anybody. it s a hoax. and that s the way it is. yeah. go ahead. mr. president a question on iran. initially you said repeatedly to americans that after iran retaliated for the soleimani strike no americans were injured. we now know at least 11 u.s. servicemen were air lifted from iraq. can you explain the discrepancy? no. i heard that they had headaches. and a couple of other things. but i would say and i can report it is not very serious. you don t think that potential traumatic brain injury is serious. they told me days later. you have to ask the department of defense. i don t consider them very serious injuries relative to other injuries i have seen. i have seen what iran has done with roadside bombs to their troops. i have seen people with no legs and with no arms. i have seen people that were horribly, horribly injured in that area, that war. and in fact many cases put those bombs put there by soleimani who is no longer with us. and i consider them to be really bad injuries. no, i do not consider that to be bad injuries. no. mr. president, trade deal, timeline for that and if you don t hit that timeline, are you automatically going to go or is there another avenue other than great question, actually. i don t have a timeline but maybe i do on my own mind. they have to move relatively quickly but they have to treat us fairly. the european union was formed pretty much for this reason, i suspect. if you really think about it. why was it formed. they formed there airplane company which does he have nicely and now it s doing better than ever because boeing has not had a good time of it. they have they better start recovering fast. i hope they do. they have good people in there now. they have great people in the company. they have great people leading it now. hopefully that will be taken care of. i have a date my mind. and it s a fairly quick date. and if we are unable to make a deal. then we will do even better. we will do even better. but they haven t treated us right. look, the united states has been losing 150 billion and more for many years. 150 billion. more. i mean, really more than that with the european union. they have trade barriers, where you can t trade. they have tariffs all over the place. they make it impossible. they are frankly more difficult to do business with than china. we have a great relationship with china now. we had some testy moments. very testy. beyond testy. worse than a lot of people would understand. but we got it done. and i think phase 2 will go nicely also. but with the european union and frankly i wil will be honest i wanted to wait until i finished china want to work on respectfully europe. but europe, you know, so beautiful, i guess, a lot of us come indirectly from europe isn t that nice? but they are actually more difficult to do business with than china all tough do is ask boris. i think boris is going to be okay, too. he has a lot of guts. i think he is in a good position, which they would have never been able to do before boris. i have a very specific date in my mind. [inaudible] i think we will have a deal before. with the eu? i think so. they have to do that. look, i m not saying it from strength or from weakness. i m just saying they have to do it. they wanted to make a deal. our nation, our country wanted to make a deal under president obama. the eu refused to talk to them. and then they said no, no. we like it the way it is. of course they like it the way it is. they are making 150 billion plus, right? and as you know president bush desperate to make a deal. they wouldn t even talk to him. we will have a deal. if we don t have a deal we will do even better. is it true that you are considering extending the travel ban and if yes. if so which countries. we have a travel ban, it s a very powerful ban. and a lot of i heard a reporter recently say he lost the ban in court. they didn t say that we won it in the supreme court. i would say that s a little deceptive, john, wouldn t you? they said he lost the travel ban. i didn t lose the travel ban. the travel ban was lost in the lower courts and won in the supreme court two years ago. no. we are adding a couple of countries to it. we have to be safe. our country has to be safe. you see what s going on in the world. our country has to be safe. so we have a very strong travel ban and we will be adding a few countries to it. can you give us a sense about the region. it s going to be announced very shortly. okay? mr. president. okay, john. thank you, mr. president, in regards to the proceedings going on in the senate, would you like to see this over quickly? would you like to see a thorough examination of the facts? what did you make of the dust-up between the white house counsel pat cipollone and jerrold nadler last night and are you absolutely against john bolton testifying? you are asking a lot of questions. first of all, jerrold nadler, i have known him a long time. he is a sleaze bag. everybody knows that pat cipollone is a high quality human being. i was very impressed with that he had great emotion yesterday. pat is a brilliant guy. i have never seen that emotion. that s real emotion. that s because he knows this is a hoax. and i was very proud of the job he did. i have known jerry nadler for a long time. he has opposed many of my jobs. i got them all built very successfully built in new york. but, so we have yet another fight. isn t it amazing. isn t it surprising? isn t it amazing? if you look at other aspects or other parts of your question, i think that i would rather go to the long way. i would rather interview bolton. i would rather interview a lot of people. the problem with john is that it s a national security problem. you can t have somebody whose in national security. if you think about it, john, he knows some of my thoughts. he knows what i think about leaders. what happens if he reveals what i think about a certain leader and it s not very positive and that i have to deal. it sing about going to make the job very hard. he knows other things. and i don t know if we left on the best of terms. i would say probably not. you know. and so you don t like people testifying when they didn t leave on good terms. and that was due to me. not due to him. so we will see what happens. but, when you have a national security where you could call it presidential prerogative. you can just call it the way i look at it. i call it national security. for national security reasons. executive privilege, they say. so that would with john would certainly fit into that when you are a national security advisor, like this gentleman is doing a fantastic job, robert i think it s very hard. i have actually gotten along well with john bolton. he didn t get along with other people. a lot of other people. when he knows my thoughts on certain people and other governments and we are talking about massive trade deals and war and peace and all these different things that we talk about, that s really a very important national security problem, i think having somebody. other people, mic mulvaney is probably around here some place. i would love to have mic go. but i think he has really expressed himself very well when he did a chris wallace interview. that was a very powerful interview. that was a long, tough chris is a very tough interviewer. a very talented guy. and, you know, i think there is not much he can add. he has been great. i will tell you what i don t like though i would like to have mike pompeo testify again that s a national security problem. i would love to have mike pompeo but it s a national security problem. i would love to have rick perry. rick perry has said i would love to testify. please let me testify. he knows it s a hoax. he would love to testify. but we are dealing with national security. we are dealing with one other thing. our country has been tied up with this hoax from the day i came down the escalator. we have been fighting it, i have been fighting it from the day i have been elected. i would say probably long before. it could be long before i came down the escalator that some people have said that, which is hard to believe. wait, john. it s hard to believe. we have been fighting this. i would rather have personally, i would rather go the long route. it s horrible for our country. our country has to get back to business. we have people that are corrupt like adam schiff, who misquotes i don t mean misquotes, makes up a statement. he had no idea that i was going to release the transcript. he never thought i would do that. and for that i thank the president of ukraine. because we got their approval. he had no idea i was going to do that. these are corrupt people, some of them. and some of them are just playing the political game. but, if you look at the poll numbers, my poll numbers are the highest they have ever been. if you look at the funding numbers. if you look at what the money raised by the republican party just set a record. nobody has ever done this before. it s because of the impeachment hoax. i have three. my husband had three. six. six in the family. thank you very much. do you plan to show up in any way, shape, or form at your trial. number two, you called kenneth starr a disaster in the past. do you still feel that way about him now and three, lev parnas has come forward and said you knew everything he was doing. he is a con man. i don t know him like a groupy. he shows up at fundraisers. i don t know anything about him. i watch rudy. rudy is a terrific person, great crime fighter. best mayor in the history of new york city by far. solved the crime problem in new york. and i think it s very unfair the way the media has treated rudy giuliani. i will say this. parnas, i don t know, other than he probably contradicted to the pain along with tens of thousands of other people. and i take i mean, this weekend i was taking pictures with hundreds of people. they contribute to the republican party and i stand there and i take perks and every once in a while i will look at somebody and i say gee, i wonder when that picture is going to be in the new york times or the the washington post or on fox. you know, it s one of those things. i think rudy is a high quality person. why is he not on your legal team. because i don t want there to be a conflict. i would love to have rudy on my team. he could be a witness at some point if this whole sham continues. i would love to have rudy on the team. rudy is on my team just so you understand. i would love to have him up there. it could be that he would have a conflict. rudy giuliani is somebody that i think the press has been very unfair. greatest mayor in the history of new york. think of it and one of the greatest crime fighters of the last 100 years. and he hates to see what s happening pause he knows corruption really better than anybody. kenneth star, how do you feel about that. ken starr is a terrific man. i did make that statement. i didn t think that bill clinton should have been impeached. and i thought it was terrible. i didn t know ken starr. i didn t think that bill clinton should have been impeached. i was pretty vocal about that. i didn t know ken. but what i do know is he was very smart. he was very tough. he was very talented. but in a certain way i was sticking up for clinton, for bill clinton. i sort of still feel that way. what he did was nothing good. it was a lot of lying going on. there were a lot of things, lot of bad things with me there is no lying, no nothing. they don t have nothing. they don t even have a crime. they say only one that s ever been impeached i didn t commit a crime. then you get into high crimes and misdemeanors. but i didn t commit a crime. so i have great respect for ken but i didn t think that frankly bill clinton should been impeached. show up at your trial. i would love to go wouldn t that be great. why don t you go. i would love to sit in the front row and stare at their corrupt faces. don t keep talking because you may convince me to do it. do you think cipollone would want you there. i think he might have a problem. [laughter] i think he might. and by the way i think they have done a really good job. i think the other side has so lied. i watched the lies from adam schiff. he will stand and look at a microphone and talk like he is so aggrieved. major sleaze bags. they are very dishonest people. very, very dishonest people. when somebody will make up a statement that i made when you remember the statement 8 times quid pro quo. 8 times. think of it. how can you say 8 times? that would mean i was asking somebody 8 different times for the same thing. what kind of a conversation would that be? if you asked once, that would be fine. if you asked twice how can you ask 8 times? they would say you are a loony tune, right? then he finished by saying don t call me, i will call you. and then i said that. he made that statement, don t call me, i will call you. he didn t say he made it up. now, ultimately he had to, in a sense apologize. he can hardly apologize. he had to apologize fortunately we had a tape. we had the transcripts. i am so happy that i had the transcripts. because it showed he is a liar and he is a fraud and they continued to just go on and on. this has happened with me with the russian hoax. this has happened to me. i called it the witch-hunt. greatest witch-hunt in american history. and the mueller report, which exonerated. no collusion. after all of that two years, there was no collusion. and then what happened? jill stein from the green party gets called a russian agent by crooked hillary. and then tulsi gabbard, i don t know either of them. but i know they are not russian agents. gets called a russian agent. this is what these people do. they demean, and the press plays in because the press largely is their partner. and you know, one thing, if we could straighten out the press in our country, we would have a place that would be so incredible. the press is so dishonest. so corrupt. i read it all the time. i don t mind bad stories. i deserve bad stories sometimes. but when i do something great or good, let it be written about good. same thing with other people. the corruption in the media, ace call it the fake news media is unbelievable and hopefully everybody is going to sort of learn a lesson. people got pulitzer prizes for their coverage of me. and it turned out they were totally wrong. other people sean hannity, rushbo. a lot of great writers got it write. they didn t get pulitzer prizes. they got it right. the russian hoax has a terrible thing. the dossier was a phoney deal, paid for by hillary clinton and the dnc. and used in the fisa courts totally illegally. this was a takedown attempt of a sitting president of the united states. and we caught them. so let s see what happens. mr. president. mr. president. mr. president, would you consider delaying the state of the union if the impeachment trial no, you know, a very excellent writer, bob woodward, this time i will actually give him an interview, he said you are enjoying this, aren t you? i m not enjoying it. you act like you are winning and you won. you are actually enjoying it. i said i m not enjoying it. i m doing it because it s very important what i m doing. i consider what i have done here with this whole witch-hunt from day one, with the insurance policy, with the horrible statements made between strzok and paige and mccabe and comey who lied to congress and did so many other bad things. he lied and he leaked. when i finish, i think this will go down as one of the greatest things i have done for this country. these are bad, corrupt people. these are bad people. and very bad for our country. thank you very much, everybody. thank you very much. steve: well, there you go. we have been listening for the last, i don t know, about 40 minutes the president of the united states at the world economic forum new davos, switzerland, he started out talking about the economy and then when he opened it up for questions because it is a news conference, naturally they wanted to know about the impeachment. regarding witnesses, he said he would leave that to the senate. regarding jerry nadler he said the president said i have known him for years he is a sleaze bag. he said of pat cipollone his attorney. he said he was very impressed with his performance yesterday. it was very emotional and he was very proud of it. ainsley: we all expected him to talk this morning after davos because is he about to get on air force one and head back to washington. this is his opportunity to talk about impeachment. defend himself, talk about his record, which he did. he talked bun employment numbers, lowest in years. created 7 million new jobs, african-american poverty plummeted to the lowest rate ever. unemployment for women, for vets, for minorities, for disabled americans. pete: he said economic power house like we ve never been before, before answering questions as you mentioned. we just covered that entire press conference. we are going to take a brief break but after the break we are going to have donald trump s campaign manager brad pas pass poo parscale. he is going to join us. she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said. i got this. usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it - easy. she can even pick her payment plan so it s easy on her budget and her life. usaa. what you re made of, we re made for. usaa at walgreens, we understand the speed of life never slows down. that s why we re helping you get the care and attention you deserve even faster. that s our promise. now, you can skip the line with walgreens express, get in and out quickly with 24-hour locations, or have your prescriptions delivered whenever you need us, we re always just minutes away. walgreens. you can t always stop for a fingerstick.betes with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don t have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you re doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system. you can do it without fingersticks. learn more at freestylelibre.us. the better question would be where do i not listen to it. while i m eating my breakfast. on the edges of cliffs. on a ski lift. everywhere. for a limited time, go to audible.com to save $50 on your first year of membership. well i m standing here, looking at you, what do i see? there s a booking for every resolution . book yours at booking.com mint. every metric since they started this. so from our internal voter scores, fundraising, everything, because it s kind of got our base electrified and ready to compete. it has independents why are you cheating the system? he won the vote fair and square. you know, all of these things are occurring. and people vote with their wallet at this time of year they re doing that record $643 million raised last year between us and all our committees 200 million in the bank. that s almost as much money as we spent on the entire 2016 election in the bank. ainsley: did you raise more in the impeachment talk. 20 to 30% spike over that period of time. people are upset. if you actually saw my text messages and emails from people. like we get these crazy spikes. and people just trying to find out they are mad. they just send a little angry emoji over and over again. they are fired up. and i think this is going to add up to our volunteers. going to add up to our ground game. people don t understand. you have to get a reason to knock doors in arizona. this will make them do it. you mentioned the text messages. dots trump campaign have an app. where you are communicating with people. we have an app. coming. beta right now. and this app. is going to allow to you actually engage in the entire program. no time before in a campaign havhave you been able to click a button and make calls. click a button. i want to see what events my neighbors are doing. steve: directly connected. directly connected with us. it s taking the app. and the phone which we all have. you all have them sitting here on the table, and using that as the mechanism to communicate. so that we don t have to do it by hey, give you a call be over there. in realtime every day be connected with the campaign, the president and get closer to the election. pete: honest question here, as we watch the president in davos talking about our economy, we are suffering through what s happening through what s happening on the senate floor, when you look at independent voters, how engaged are they in the minute-to-minute the day-by day what s going on with impeachment? i actually asked that question. we ended up doing focus groups across the country. i was actually kind of shocked at how much people were clicking this off. they just they don t even actually know what s going on. yeah, this impeachment seems like political theater. hundreds of people a few raised their hand to say i know what this is about. they see the economy. they see their jobs. they are doing well. they just you know, they already don t like congress so much. they already don t truths trust him. they see this as theater and i think it s boring. it s just boring. i mean, i did choose 9,000 tv channels, netflix or amazon or i can watch the impeachment. which is like watching paint dry. i couldn t even watch it last night and i m paid to do it. ainsley: michael bloomberg s campaign manager said this about you brad is not running a national campaign. brad is running a campaign in six states and he is doing that exceptionally well. right now if the election was held, i think president trump probably is reelected. and that s one of the reasons mike bloomberg got into this campaign. is he referring to arizona, florida, michigan, north carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin. you studied these states. are you worried about those states other others. first mr. she canny, than she sheiky thanksfor sayine about me. greatest campaign on earth. not running in only six states. what he meant to say these are the six states that are kind of like win i wouldn t agree on which states they are. swing states versus he didn t say we are in 17 states. pete: what the is core of the trump team focus. growth states, new hampshires, new mexicos, the minnesotas, nevada, states we didn t win in 2016 i do think we can win in 2020. unbelievable numbers we got out thereof, new mexico rally was the greatest rallies i have ever seen where just the new excitement hey we can win this state increased latino voters. florida and ohio, they haven t even talked about those because we are doing so well. north carolina, the michigan, wisconsin. you have arizona. those states are still, i think arizona is pretty good for the president. steve: you got some good news you said during the commercial about the state of georgia and the. yeah, there is a good polling coming out. public polling coming out from wisconsin. huge upticks now. democrats are finally had to go and talk about what policies they want. they couldn t sit around and say we are great. he is bad. now they actually have to say, you know, raise their hand, they want free healthcare for illegal immigrants when millions of americans trying to fix healthcare. raise their hands to socialized medicine. big government policies. get rid of your guns. all kinds of stuff, remove your constitutional rights. people are going wait, wait, wait. that s not what we signed up for. we want a economy. we want national security, great healthcare. fix our immigration problems. and now i think as those problems start to come down. they say that s going to affect my pocketbook. everybody is going to get a free education. free everything? 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wasn t it the job of the house to call all the witnesses, get all the information and then take the evidence the walk from the house over to the senate and say okay this is what we have gathered you decide. exactly right. the democrats case so flimsy they are scrambling at this point. if you take a step back and really remember the house impeachment proceedings, republicans were not able to call our requested witnesses so adam schiff is being completely hypocritical, the only thing he has said that s accurate this is unfair trial. this is unfair to the president if you think about this impeachment process has been going for 70 plus days. yesterday was the first day that the president s legal team was even able to participate. that is unprecedented. that is not how the precedent was for the nixon and clinton impeachment. the person who limited witnesses was adam schiff. steve: you remember when they said we want to hear from john bolton then they were going to go to court. then after of nowhere they say we are going to withdraw that subpoena from mr. bolton. they had their chance. and now they are saying that unless the senators in that house say okay, let s bring in a whole bunch of new faces, that then those republicans are part of the cover-up. they are complicit. they are obstructing justice. this process has been unconstitutional, unfair and unprecedented. and the fact that democrats chose not to pursue this in the courts shows they don t have a case. i think they were rushed on arbitrary deadline to get this done before the hollywoods. when it comes to witness questions, the republicans specifically and formally asked to call witnesses and adam schiff did not allow any republican witnesses to be called unless they were on the democrats 7 list it. is unfair. adam schiff is unfair and the way is he conducting this is unconstitutional. steve: the republicans got two wins yesterday. first of all, the trial rules were passed along party lines. and chuck schumer brought up 11 different amendments trying to change the rules that mitch mcconnell wanted to follow. and every one of his 11 amendments was defeated. and that s a win for the republicans. it s a win for this country. and most importantly it s a win for american voters. i think what was one of the most important messages yesterday made by pat cipollone who did a very job. this is not about one election. this is about two elections. taking away the american people s vote. we have an election in less than a year. let the american people decide. steve: well, and the president said in his press conference of mr. cipollone that he had never seen that kind of emotion before. he was very proud of the performance of his legal team. there are not 20 members of the u.s. senate that are going to vote on the republican side to impeach this president and kick him out of office. so why are they doing it? the cake has been baked. yeah. i think this is a waves time. when i m home in my district which is every single weekend, i hear from voters. they want us to get back to doing the people s work. which is continuing to grow the economy. the president passed this great new trade deal usmca. we need to get back to working on behalf of the american people. they are tuning these impeachment hearings out. they know they have a vote this fall and they know the senate is not going to convict the president. the case is just not there this is the flimsy weakest case of impeachment in our nation s history. steve: kicks off again today at 1:00? yes. steve: good luck staying awake. elise stefanik, thank you for joining us. thank you. steve: todd piro is having breakfast with friends down in jupiter, florida. we will check in with him at the lighthouse diner coming up next [cheers and applause] it s either the assurance of a 165-point certification process. or it isn t. it s either testing an array of advanced safety systems. or it isn t. it s either the peace of mind of a standard unlimited mileage warranty. or it isn t. for those who never settle, it s either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. or it isn t. the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. now through march 2nd. only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. my body is truly powerful. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it s supposed to. trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. it s not insulin. i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. trulicity isn t for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don t take trulicity if you re allergic to it, you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, or severe stomach pain. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, belly pain, and decreased appetite, which lead to dehydration and may worsen kidney problems. i have it within me to lower my a1c. ask your doctor about trulicity. ainsley: the first day of the impeachment trial ending only five hours ago. pete: went until 2:00 in the morning. ending after 12 hours of debate. steve: they are not used to working 12 hour days griff jenkins is. he is inside the capital of statuary hall. hey, griff. good morning, pete, ainsley and steve. remarkable as we are following this late, late impeachment trial just starting kicking off. the president across an ocean weighing in as well when it came to really the impeachment trial and this whole push by democrats for witnesses. here is what the president had to say. it s a total hoax. it s a disgrace. they talked about their tremendous case. it s all done, their tremendous case. it s a hoax. a con job like schiff. he is a corrupt politician. they are looking at this tremendous success. the likes of which they have never seen before in this country. they have never seen anything like this. it s driven the democrats crazy. as congressman al green said, he is a beauty. as congressman green said, we have got to beat him by impeachment because we can t beat him in the election. back here at home it was a marathon day because minority leader senator schumer tried to get 11 different amendments to call witnesses and produce new documents passed all were shot down mostly along party line votes. they were able to proceed forward. the house managers and the president s defense team who we heard from for the first time really getting vicious, nasty and personal at times. chief justice john roberts having to admonish them just before 1:00 a.m., listen. i think it is appropriate at this point for me to admonish both the house managers and the president s counsel. those addressing the senate should remember where they are. he cited actually a precedent from 1905 when one house manager used the phrase pedestria petti fogging. pete: you are not a peti fogger. steve: susan collins pushed for that and she got it. as you wake up on this wednesday morning, what are people all across america thinking about the impeachment? ainsley: did any of them watch it yesterday? steve: todd piro we understand is live at the lighthouse diner in jupiter, florida where it looks like it s standing room only, todd. todd: steve, i have never been to a diner this crowded. this is absolutely insane. and everybody here. [cheers and applause] todd: is against impeachment. instead of asking the question are you for impeachment, we are going to get into a little bit more nuanced answers. and we begin with ashley. ashley an obama voter, what are your thoughts on impeachment? well, i actually am not a republican. i m not a democrat either. i am an independent. i did vote for obama. i voted against hillary clinton. i was iffy on trump. but you cannot argue with his results. lower unemployment. [cheers and applause] strong economy, fighting for our soldiers. and i will tell you what, i will not vote for anyone i don t care if they re republican or democrat that stands in the way of the success that this nation is having. todd: ashley, thanks. we go over to samantha now. you say impeachment is a distraction from the president s accomplishments. why? absolutely. if you think about it that way, it makes perfect sense, he has all these goals. he has all of these things that he wants to fulfill. what other reason for impeachment besides wasting our time, wasting our person who and distracting americans and the president from fulfilling what we want to do. samantha, thank you for your time. dennis, you you are an air force veteran. you got pretty emotional. you said what is happening right now in congress is not what i fought for. why did you say that? we have the military out there that is still defending our rights and god bless this president for rebuilding our military. [applause] which was decimated under the obama administration. but here is a president that is a billionaire. he doesn t take a salary. he don t united states it to charity. he is rebuilding our nation. and, yet, they want to impeach him. it s a sham. it s a sham. and it s a shame. and shame on these democrats that want to bring this before congress when we have fought to send them there to represent us. do what you are getting paid to do. todd: thank you for your service and your time. [cheers and applause] benny, you say this is all a campaign strategy by the dems. why? well, the democrats are now trying to rewrite the results of the 2016 presidential election. that has failed, obviously. and now they are trying to remove president trump from the 2020 ballot. todd: that s it from here. [cheers and applause] in jupiter, florida. we have a lot more answers as you might be able to tell. send it on back to new york. steve: i have never seen a crowd like that. holy cow. [chanting trump] ainsley: thank you so much, todd. were they chanting trump. steve: in a minute it will be u.s.a. jillian: start off with this story. additional troops being flown out of iraq for being evaluated for possible concussions. soldiers may have been injured during the iranian missile attack earlier this month. 11 service members are already being examined for concussions. no one was killed. the strike walls retaliation of iranian general qassem soleimani. a manhunt intensifies overnight after a shooting at a mall on the las vegas strip. police say someone pulled out a gun when a group of teenagers got into a fight. three people are hurt, including an elderly man. their injuries are not life threatening. the mall is on lockdown. but police say that is an isolated incident and the community is safe. more than one suspect could be on the run. yankees legend derek jeter is heading to coopers town. the shortstop elected to the baseball hall of fame. one vote short of unanimous vote. jeter will be joined by outfielder larry walker accepted in his final year of eligibility. colorado rockie really standing out wearing sponge bob shirt as he learned he finally made it. congrats. look at your headlines. steve: on the last vote. and the headline here in new york city is claim to fame number two. pete: one vote he didn t get. steve: janice dean on fox square where once again it is cold. janice: not as cold as it was yesterday. real quick what are your names. phil. ocean city. todd, fort meyers, florida. janice: so cold in florida they are setting record temperatures. they are afraid of the eqanas falling off the trees. worried they are going to freeze, they don t freeze, but they go into a state of hype entestatehibernation. last day of the real cold and things are going to start to moderate. 33 the coldest temperature in miami in nine years, my friends. freeze advisories are in place and we want the iguanas to be okay. waive to pete and ainsley and steve, my friends. ainsley: good morning. no iguanas falling off trees here. pete: i would like to see a video of that. since they survive, no big deal. entertaining. ainsley: go on youtube. steve: there goes one right there. apparently around 40 degrees the iguana because it s a hot blooded critter, the blood gets thick and blacks out of the tree. doesn t die. lays there until it warms up and sun warms it up. steve: i wonder if todd is going to see that in jupiter. ainsley: watch where you are walking if you are in florida. pete: school choice on the line today at the supreme court where john roberts also has a job in the morning. hearing a potentially landmark cases. ainsley: next guest says the most important decision facing schools in 60 years abc, 1, 2, 3 baby you and me, girl. easy as 1, 2, 3 give me your hand! i can save you. .lots of money with liberty mutual. we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! 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this is is a path path breaking. this is obscure amendment that is in 37 state constitutions enacted in the 1800s essentially bars or deters parents from directing the constitutional right they have to control their child s education. and so this case has wound its way through courts in montana because a parent, kendra espinosa wanted to do something by the way very different than those parents that you talked about in california are doing for their kids. she actually is a low income parent who wanted to choose a school for her kids, her daughters. and she is barred by doing that and discriminated against because of this 18th century amendment that was born of bigotry. pete: you are talking about the blain amendment which effectively to block people from using catholic schools. today, reformers who want to give parents choice say let the follow the kid to his school if it s a private school or a religious school and that s the challenge here is give them open, complete choice. well, that s right. and whether it s open or complete choice is really about a parent deciding how best to educate their child. we not only know that should be a constitutional protected right. this is invalidated by the supreme court time and time again. but it also leads to better education and so the state s interests are not more important than a parent s interest. that s what this case is all about. and 37 states who have been hiding behind this screen of discrimination created by blame since the 1800s by the way the teacher s union supports a republic can named james blain from the 1800s who wanted to protect protestant america from those awful catholics coming to america. this is path breaking to be turned over. a big win for parents. pete: it s freedom of religion and opportunity to gave to your kids if you like. jeanne. thank you very much. the president about to return to the u.s. after big days in davos. we will bring you the highlights, next. wednesdays. at outback, they re for steak and beer. walkabout wednesdays are back! get a sirloin or chicken on the barbie, fries, and a draft beer or coca-cola - all for just $10.99. hurry in! wednesdays are for outback. outback steakhouse. aussie rules. 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[laughter] the president did talk about the accomplishments he s made here in davos despite the fact that impeachment is really consuming the news in the united states. he had a lot of bilateral meetings with world leaders, said that investment in the united states is on the uptick as a result of him coming here, and he also really wanted to draw a contrast between the fact that he was here overseas doing the business of the nation. he did talk a lot about impeachment. a number of us asked him a question. one of the things i asked him was that dust-up between jerrold nadler and the white house counsel, pat cipollone, after nadler basically accused republicans in the senate of wanting to participate in a cover-up, and p cipollone said nadler should be embarrassed by those comments. chief justice john roberts jumped in and admonished both of them. i asked him about that. jerrold nadler, he s a sleaze bag. everybody knows that. pat cipollone is a high quality human being. he had great emotion yesterday. pat s a brilliant guy, but i ve never seen that emotion, and that s real emotion. that s because he knows this is a hoax. reporter: so the confrontation between nadler and cipollone was over the motion that chuck schumer had introduced for john bolton to be subpoenaed to be a witness. i asked the president if he would ever like to see bolton testify in the senate trial. here s what he said. i would rather go the long way. i would rather interview are bolton, i would rather interview a lot of people. the problem with john is that it s a national security problem. he knows some of my thoughts, he knows what i think about leaders, what happens if he reveals what i think about a certain leader and it s not very positive and that i have to deal on behalf of the cunninger it s going to be very hard behalf of the country, it s going to be very hard. reporter: whether or not there will be witnesses at all in the senate trial is still an open question. after the opening arguments from the house managers and the response of the prime minister s attorneys, that the president s attorneys, that s when they could entertain the idea of witnesses. the prime minister was asked the president was asked would he like to see witnesses. do you want to see witnesses in the senate trial? the senate s going to have to answer that. i have great respect for the senate as a body and many of the individuals. reporter: a couple of other little pieces of business. my wife, who was at the press conference she was the beautiful woman seated next to me asked the president if he would like to show up for the trial. he said he would love to, but he didn t think his attorneys would like it too much. he was asked about ken starr who he once called a disaster, said he thinks he s a smart guy, he just didn t think bill clinton should be impeached. asked about rudy giuliani, he said he would like to have him as a member of his legal team, however, he thought there might be a conk flick there. and when conflict there. and when asked about lev parnas, he said he was a p con man. steve: and he saidly nadler was a jerry nadler was a slum bag. john roberts is not only an amazing reporter, he is a brilliant husband. [laughter] anytime you can work your wife s quote boo a live quote, josh, well done, johnny. ainsley: and what do you think about your roommate go ahead, sorry. reporter: i was just going to say i don t know if you saw it, but i was about to ask the president a follow-up when he called on my wife. she says, no, no, no, he called on me, he called op me! ainsley: she did? pete: there you go. reporter: what am i gonna do? [laughter] ainsley: great that you both can be this together. and, john, your name s been in the news a lot. either we re talking about you or the chief justice. reporter: yeah. i know. do a google search. all right. ainsley: thanks, john. pete: of course, the president in davos, one of the things he said in his press conference is we have an economic powerhouse like we ve never had before. that s the message he wants to emphasize and has been emphasizing for two days whether or not the media in this country is willing to cover it. steve: i don t really think so. if you watched some of it yesterday, it was hard to follow. it looked exactly like a lot of the debate we saw in the house. ainsley: same people. steve: different background. you ve got that marble and granite behind the speakers. i turned to the new york post this morning to see what how their op-ed page would cover it. the headline is on to the second day of trump s impeachment trial. and the entire story reads simply, is this thing still going on? ainsley: that s all that they wrote. pete: that s the op-ed? aibs aibs i know, my gosh. it went on for how many hours yesterday. like, 12 hours. if you didn t have a chance to watch it all, then the republicans basically approved the new trial rules, and the democrats tried time and time again pushing for witnesses. republicans at this point are saying not in this space. pete: yeah. you want to call it a circus except circuses are actually entertaining. so instead it s the steve: one-ringer. pete: yeah. it s a one-ringer circus where you know what the outcome is going to be. i almost dare you to try to watch it for 20 minutes continuously. steve: great coverage on fox, by the way. pete: the insight and the high points that you want to get so you follow the substance, but you feel like you re watching what you ve been watching for the last two, three, four months, and this is after they tried mueller, and that didn t work. steve: they re all being produced by the democrats to present this narrative pete: that s true. steve: you ve got to get rid of it pete: most television shows are produced by democrats. steve: what was very interesting is despite what we have heard for the last three years, there was one senator yesterday on television from the great state of hawaii who said she watched it, and she doesn t get how these republicans and the president s people, they re talking about we were out to get him since day one. that s what she said. listen to this. we got from the president s people really what i found they re still saying that we were out to get the president from day one. kind of a weird conspiracy theory that i have to say even kavanaugh brought up. they really believe this stuff. i find that incredible. steve: finds that incredible. democrats were not going after this president since day one. except let s take you back to day one. i will fight every day until he is impeached! impeach 45! donald john trump, by causing such harm to society, is unfit to be president, warrants impeachment, trial and removal from office. he should resign, but if he doesn t resign, he should be impeached. what is the best thing for the country? it may be that we undertake an impeachment nonetheless. donald trump is either going to be impeached by the congress or at the ballot box. if proven, some of this would be impeachable, yes. obstruction of justice ? we re going to go in there, we re going to [bleep] [cheers and applause] it s not a conspiracy, it is factual. ainsley: this is that line from politico. this was april 18, 2016, before the president was even the republican nominee. the headlines says: could trump be impeached shortly after he takes office? pete: all of those clips were before the supposed phone call that was so bad with ukraine, over all of it was before. steve: that s when it was the russians. pete: and many of them are even after the mueller report which found nothing against this president. that was their steve: right. pete: we forget. that s like a talking point now, the democrats have already put us through two years of breathless speculation about what bob mueller would find. he found nothing. they latched on to the closest shiny object they could, and now the most recent is a cover-up. you heard it all day yesterday, this is a cover-up. steve: and people are going to hear it all again today. democrats are trying to shame the republicans ainsley: i wonder if they were told to say cover-up. steve: it s a buzzword. anyway, they played mazie hirono saying it s a conspiracy, we haven t been after him since day one. then you saw that montage of people being against him from about day one. and the president actually touched on this about an hour ago in davos, switzerland. listen to this. our country s been tied up with this hoax from the day i came down the escalator. we ve been fighting it, identify been fighting i ve been fighting it from the day i ve been elected. i would say probably long before, could be long before i came down the escalator that some people have said that, which is hard to believe. wait, wait, john. it s hard to believe. we ve been fighting this. i would rather have, personally, i d rather go the long route. it s horrible for our country. our country has to get back to business. ainsley: yeah. people are tired of it. people want they elected these officials to go to washington to get things done for their families, for their communities. instead this is all just impeach, impeach, impeachment russia, racism, collusion, corruption. steve: but there were a number of democrats who were elected to the house in 2018 to do just this, to impeach the president of the united states, because they had two years. they said you really going to let this guy get away with this? and so there were a number of people who are in congress to do this ainsley: maxine waters said this is not the end. if he doesn t get impeached here, they ll do it again. pete: at least they re actually keeping a campaign promise. [laughter] i guess the one upside. but the one argument the prime minister s legal team the president s legal team made yesterday which really does resonate with people, they re not trying to undo one election, they re trying to undo two. this is about laying the predicate for 2020. because if you looked at the can candidates they re running on the democrat side and what they re running on, nobody wants what they re selling. and as a result, they re trying to detract. ainsley: there are some that say now that they re hearing, some senators are saying, you know what? republicans said we ll give you john bolton in exchange for hunter biden. steve: right. pete: it s not fantasy football. aibs aibs they want to impeach because they want to top them from winning again. steve: we had brad on with us about an hour ago, and he said this impeachment thing has riled people up. he calls the number of people donating money through the roof because they feel like it should not be the congress job to take away their vote from 2016. pete: absolutely. well, we ve got that, we ve got much else and a few additional headlines. gillian, good morning. good morning, let s get right to this. trump says the u.s. has the new coronavirus, quote, totally under control as the world health organization holds an emergency meeting. a washington state man is the first reported case of the virus in the u.s. he s hospitalized in good condition. health officials believe he was sickened while visiting china where the outbreak started. dr. marc siegel joined us earlier to explain why it s spreading so quickly. these viruses change all the time, they mutate, and then they come into a form that s much easier to spread. now, we don t have the treatment for this, we don t have a vaccine. nine people have died in china. new documents could spell new trouble for adam schiff. the house intel chairman appeared to mischaracterize text messages between rudy giuliani and his associate, lev parnas. it talked about a meeting with, quote, mr. z, well, schiff claims that it s ukraine s president zelensky, but it may actually be the founder of burisma. schiff s office hasn t commented on that report. moments ago president trump confirming he will expanding the controversial travel ban. our country has to be safe. you see what s going on in the world. our country has to be safe. so we have a are strong the travel ban, and we ll be adding a few countries to it. white house officials tell politico restrictions will be placed on these seven countries you see on your screen right now. people may not be banned outright, but they could be barred from the visa lottery program. well, a blocked shot triggers an all-out brawl at the end of the kansas/kansas state game. check this out. that s not good. this is bad. the benches clearing as players threw punches at the end of last night s 60-81 blowout. police officers were called in to break up the fight. no word yet on any punishment. send it back to you. steve: i m a little embarrassed. pete: i was trying to watch the impeachment stuff, i couldn t take it, so i turned it to espn. it was almost wall to wall coverage. one guy picked up a stool, ended up setting it down. ainsley: better not do that. pete: yeah. and kansas had blown out kansas state. so clearly, there were some words exchanged. steve: we ll keep you posted on that. in the meantime, back to the other fight. we re just hours away from the start of day two in the impeachment trial. we re going to talk to senator john kennedy, always a great interview. he s next. she initiated tests and found out what was wrong. she s treated both my children since they were born. bridgette: i feel that my np cares about me as a person and not just if i m sick or not. molly: and i really love my nurse practitioner because we have such a strong connection. i know that whenever i call, she ll be there for me. my name is molly and we choose nps. np: consider an np. when patients choose, patients win. wean air force veteran made of doing what s right,. not what s easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that s how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin s family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that s what s right. usaa. what you re made of, we re made for. usaa this round s on me.eat. hey, can you spot me? 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now, you answer those two questions, and we ll be ready to vote. pete: senator, the rest of us get the convenience of turning the channel or doing something else throughout the day. you are at your desk, you can t talk, you can t use your phone, you have to drink water or milk, those are your choices only. take us inside the chamber as it drags on, as you hear the same people making the psalm arguments. what s going through the minds of senators? well, some senators are listening, some senators are reading the briefs. i didn t see any senator who was not focused directly or indirectly on the proceedings. we may have some more motions today. i understand that senator schumer is going to try to disqualify the president s counsel, pat cipollone steve: why? he says that he is a fact witness and has a conflict. look, if i were in senator schumer s shoes, i d probably want to disqualify cipollone too, because he s a damn good lawyer, and he did a great job last night. but at this juncture, senator schumer, he s kind of like a teenager. he hates, he hates everybody and everything related to the president. steve: and like a teenager, he got to stay up late last night. [laughter] that s true. steve: senator, what do you make of adam schiff and jerry nadler yesterday essentially saying unless those evil republicans, like you, allow us to call witnesses, then you re involved in the cover-up! you are obstructing justice, and you are complicit with the president of the united states! what s your answer to the democrats who said that a million times yesterday, and they re going to say it a million times today? well, it was primarily chairman nadler, and i thought it was over the top and inappropriate. he called white house counsel liars, liars, liars steve: right. and then he spoke to those of us who happen to be republicans in the senate and said if you don t vote the way that he, chairman nadler, wants us to, then we re all involved in a cover-up. steve: right. and he was called down by the chief justice. i thought chairman nadler demonstrated a little more zeal than wisdom. but, you know, it was all for naught. we their actions were voted down, and today we re going to start hearing the prosecution s case. both sides are being treated fairly. same amount of time for prosecution as for defense, then the senate s going to ask questions, and then we ll be able to make a rational decision about whether we need more witnesses. i believe if the prosecution gets more witnesses, president trump is entitled to the same number of witnesses. i want to treat both sides fairly. pete: absolutely. senator and juror john kennedy joining us this morning. thank you very much, appreciate your time. thanks for having me. pete: are you a water or milk guy? i m a water guy. steve: okay. 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we had, when the gentleman came in, we went to the audio-visual and actually had a camera trained on him. richard white, who was the first one shot and killed, was also a member of the curt team. of the security team. he sat to his right and behind him slightly. then i went back into the auditorium and stood about 5 or 6 feet to the right of richard and wassing on observing the individual. during communion the individual got up, went to the end of the i pew to, you know, take the bread and went back and sat down. then right before, you know, the prayer for the cup, he got up and went and said something to tony wallace briefly. went back and partially sat down. at that point he stood back up, and he, you know, that s when he produced a hot gun, turned. a shotgun. richard and i were both drawing our weapons at the same time. he turned immediately shot richard and then shot tony at point-blank range. and then started down towards the front of the auditorium, and i had people in front of me due to commotion and had to wait until i had just a split second to take the shot and drop him. and as i previously stated, from the time he turned with the shotgun until he was down and it was over was a total of six seconds. ainsley: wow. now that we know he came in with the intent of causing evil because of what he had, you know, the slugs and the buck shot that he had in the gun. ainsley: so, jack, did you say that he took communion? this guy took communion? yes. ainsley: wow. communion, you know, and ainsley: go ahead, sorry. and we d had the offering for, you know, the bread and was fixing to have the prayer, you know, for the communion cup. that s when he turned and started, you know, his, the shooting. steve: right. and, you know, after he murdered those people then in the church, you were able to neutralize him within six seconds. there s been a lot of reaction to the fact that how many more lives would have been lost had there not been a good guy with a gun inside that church. the day after that happened michael bloomberg, who is running for president of the united states, was asked about you in alabama. and, jack, listen to what he says, and then i want to get your reaction. yes, it may be true i wasn t there and i don t know the facts that somebody in the congregation had their own gun and killed the person who murdered two other people. but it s the job of law enforcement to have guns and to decide when to shoot. you just do not want the average citizen carrying a gun in a crowded place. steve: jack, what is, what would you like to say to michael bloomberg about what happened in that church and why you had a gun? well, the, you know, when i was asked to set up the security detail for the church, we were aware all of us are volunteer. i m the only one that has any prior law enforcement background. we set up the detail, we did practice, and mr. bloomberg, had we operated by his standards or his wishes, the carnage would have been significantly greater because the individual still had, after the shooting, still had seven live rounds in his gun and three more in his pocket. even though the police department did arrive in roughly two minutes from the time the first call went in, by that time, you know, the carnage would have been much, much worse. ainsley: i can t believe that that and if he thinks that ainsley: mike bloomberg is saying that you just don t want an average guy to have a gun, but i guarantee everyone in your church is glad that you did have your gun, right? steve: and others. yes. yes. and, you know, i don t consider myself an average guy. you know, the team and i practice, we train, and it s not something that we re just walking around with a gun on our hip. we do practice, you know, for different scenarios. pete: that s right, jack. you re trained, you understand how to use a firearm responsibly. you re a legal gunner. what does someone like michael bloomberg not understand about the reality that millions of americans are quite capable of using a firearm? what is the mindset of an elitist like that, that doesn t understand being armed yourself? you know, it comes down to, you know, preparing, you know, thinking, you know, you prepare for the worst and hope for the best. and, you know, if you don t do that, then you, you know, will end up, you know, possibly, you know, not surviving. pete: but, i mean go back in history pete: michael bloomberg has a security detail. he doesn t have to carry a weapon. the average person does not. yes. pete: do they just think you don t deserve the ability to defend yourself? what do these liberals think when they say, no, you shouldn t have a second amendment right. well, they are trying to take away all of our rights to own firearms, and if they you know, they re chipping away at that all the time. if mr. bloomberg would have his security detail turn their arms in and not guard him, he would be in the same situation as many american citizens are every day. steve: jack, before you go is the congregation still in shock? yes. there s, some of the people are handling the situation better than others, although there s some that are having an extremely difficult time, which it is extremely difficult. understand that there was in excess of 240 people in that auditorium that witnessed the entire situation. and, you know, so they are, you know, some of them are definitely, you know, having a little harder time dealing with that. our prayers are with richard and tony s families, you know, the members of the congregation that had to witness that also. steve: all right. ainsley: well, our prayers are with them too. pete: jack wilson, you re a hero, and we re grateful to have you on this program. thank you so much. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. ainsley: god bless you, jack. thank you. all right. gillian has more headlines. that s right. a construction worker charged with murder after a political argument turns deadly in florida. mason trevor tony shot his foreman after a heated discussion about politics. knight was a trump supporter. both men worked on a road construction project. after the attack, authorities say tony placed an american flag next to knight s body. eight masked gunmen caught on camera breaking into a restaurant and terrorizing employees. employees just released this video hoping to generate new leads. it shows the group flooding into the restaurant, then raiding the registers. they also point a gun at workers and customers who are trying to hide. police say the armed robbers made off with about $30,000. body camera video shows sheriff s deputies save a driver from a burning car. now that man and his first responder heroes are speaking out. there s no way i m going to watch somebody get burped alive in front of me burned alive. we were trying to wake the person up, banging, trying to break the window. my wife still has a husband she gets to talk to every day, and it s because of them and the way they reacted. the florida deputies were heading home after a 12-hour shift after they heard the driver veer into a swamp. the driver had a concussion. well, she s the queen of do it yourself projects, so it s no wonder martha stewart plows her own snow. the home and cooking guru sharing this video after he spent nearly three hours clearing 4 miles of road around her farm in new york. in fairness, that thing doesn t look that bad though because a lot of them, you know, there s the stand-up ones that you push. steve: that s awesome. [laughter] pete: 4 miles of road at her home? [laughter] steve: she could afford to hire someone but she does it herself. thank you, jilli, jillian. janice janis it s so cold in florida that iguanas are falling from the trees. they go into this sort of short-term hibernation, and they fall from the trees because it s the coldest it s been in ten years. so they re not dead, that s the problem. a couple of years ago a guy went around and collected all of these, you know, hibernating iguanas, put them in the car, and then they woke up because it was warm, and they were really mad, and he got into an accident. so this can be a dangerous thing. no iguanas were harmed in the making of the video. let s take a look at the maps, and i ll show you how cold it is across portions of the country. i don t even have a reading in new york city, but it feels like 29 in tampa. holy moly. there s a storm system across the central u.s. bringing sleet, freezing rain and snow, and that s going to travel across the ohio, mississippi river valley, eventually here in the northeast. along the coast it s going to be too warm for snow, so i don t think martha stewart is going to get any more action on her snow blower. what is it called? snowe blower? steve: a plow. ainsley: i want to know the price tag on those things. steve: she gets rid of the snow, but i wonder if she would go out and move the iguanas if they fell out of her tree? janice: don t put iguanas into her car. ames eaps don t worry. steve: it s like snakes on a plane. [laughter] steve: and that story happens every time it gets cold in florida. and today s the day. pete: gotta cover it. ainsley: what are voters saying about the impeachment trial and president trump s trip to davos? todd s down in grouper the, florida, we re going to check with him. pete: but first, sandra smith. sandra: hey, friends, good morning. it is day two of the president s impeachment trial in washington. both sides are here to reago act this morning. senator mike lee of utah, republican, senator ben cardin of maryland, a democrat, both join us. fresh reaction also from the president in davos this morning. plus are some democrats privately discussing a witness swap? what we re hearing on that, we ll can our a-team. and bloomberg senior campaign adviser is here. don t miss a minute. join ed and me, top of the hour. 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[laughter] live from the capitol with how the president is responding. reporter: yeah, the president saying he ll leave it up to the senate on whether witnesses will be called, but he weighed this on how he feels about this trial. listen. if that were impeachable, lyndon johnson would have had to leave office on his first day. kennedy would have had to leave office his first day. it s a hoax. and you understand it s a hoax better than anybody. it s a hoax. and that s the way it is. reporter: after that marathon day, the senate finally approving 53-47 to move forward, defeating 31 amendments 11 amendments by minority leader chuck schumer, but things got so nasty, the chief justice, john roberts, admonished them. listen. i think it is appropriate at this point for me to admonish both the house managers and the president s counsel and those addressing the nat should remember the senate should remember where they are. reporter: get your popcorn ready, starts all over again at 1:00 today. we will get opening arguments, and that ll take us, perhaps, through the rest of the week, guys. we have to wait and see whether witnesses, by the way, will be called. that door hasn t been closed entirely. steve: buckle up. ainsley: where is tv s todd piro? steve: he s down in jupiter, florida, with a standing room only crowd at the diner. ainsley: how do we know you? because you re on tv. reporter: and i m watching out for iguanas. [laughter] but we do want to give a huge hot-out to folks here at the lighthouse. they have been amazing [cheers and applause] dealing with the intensity all morning. thank you very much. [applause] i want to begin with miriam. this is miriam. she is an immigrant from mexico. you say mexico and other countries are looking at what s happening here right now and that the u.s. is really embarrassed. why do you say that? well, it s an embarrassment to try to impeach the best president ever. i mean his accomplishments are just huge. lowest unemployment, he s building the wall to protect our communities from illegal immigrants, from the drugs. and so how can we want to impeach? so i hope that all the republican senators would stand strong, and this message is directly to mitt romney, susan collins, lisa murkowski, lamar alexander. we, the american people, voted this president in 2016, and you better understand that we want him back for four more years. [cheers and applause] reporter: miriam, thank you. we re going to go to mark right now. mark, you say, your words, it s all about the four jim jordan truths. what? four truths are this: no quid pro quo, no linkage, they had no knowledge of the money being held back, and there was never any investigations. why are we here? reporter: all right. mark, thank you. [cheers and applause] want you to meet larry. larry says this is the abbott and costello impeachment, why? we all heard some of the things yesterday in the proceedings. you get then screen shot of schiff and nadler together, and you just can t help but look at to of them standing next to one another and think that s the democrats answer to abbott and costello. [applause] reporter: and finally, sherry, take us home quickly, five seconds, how will history view this time in america? history is going to remember donald trump and his family as well for their sacrifices and what he has done for this country. and they re also going to remember this house, this speaker for the tra city they ve done to this country. the damage that they ve done to this country and the harm across the world. they will be remembered. reporter: that s it here from jupiter, florida. more fox & friends after this. 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when? i get a call from her boss, said she hadn t showed up for work. they found her in the car. i saw in the back of her neck some ligature marks. just didn t deserve that. a small island, a small pool of suspects. ryan, her lover with the past i had no idea he was a drug dealer. and darren, the soon-to-be ex-husband. that morning he called in sick. was darren polygraphed? he didn t pass. and the lover? he didn t do that good either. without much else to go on, this case was growing colder by the day. nothing. just nothing happens. but a father doesn t forget. i have to have justice for my daughter. after all these years, are there still secrets to uncover? must have been quite a journey for you. it isn t over yet. this father finally got his answer, but is it the one he wanted? never in my wildest dreams would i have imagined what we re going through now. hello and welcome to dateline. sandra galas was born and raised on an island known as one of the most beautiful places on earth. so how could something so ugly have happened there? the young mother was found strangled to death in her garage. police immediately set their sights on two men close to sandra, but it would take a father s relentless pursuit of the truth to unravel this mystery. here is keith morrison with the other side of paradise. wandering through this land you wonder if you ve been transported to the beginning of biblical time. to a garden free of want, temptation or betrayal. and in a land so distractingly beautiful, tourists who ebb and flow like the tides could be forgiven for looking past this lone, tormented father, begging for help for a terrible reason, to solve the murder of his precious daughter, sandy. yeah, i really appreciate it. no, no, anything we can do. we re it takes time. we hope. we hope we get an arrest this year. there s no close yet. we are 90% there. it s all good. we first came upon larry mendonca on another dateline assignment way back in 2009, which is when we shot this video. he was 68 years old then. alone he worked, handing out flyers, gruff and stoic, except when the pain was just too much. just that three years it s still rough. larry took us to sandra s grave. told us how he promised to bring her killer to justice. she won t be forgotten as long as i m alive. we had no idea then where this meeting would lead us, that our journey would last a decade, a case that would expose evil lurking in this garden paradise and bring larry to the edge of his own mortality. many on kauai new sandra, even watched her as a teenager dancing in a local marketing video. like many here she was multi-racial, growing up in a household that was half japanese, avenue portugueshalf portuguese, all hawaiian. and a devout catholic that attended catholic schools. best friends alni umala and joanie arita. when people ask you what was sandy like, what would you tell them? she was absolutely a go-getter. like she was teacher s pet. oh, really? always perfect. she always had her hair nicely done. you know, she was always focused. in high school sandra was an athlete, a cheerleader, very popular. she was the complete package. and her home life? old-fashioned. traditional. traditional family, you know. catholic. play-by-the-rules type of people. yeah? yeah. discipline, a very important thing to larry, he the 20-year air force veteran. i was trying to toughen her up if you want to put it in that expression, to know what the real world was like. that was why larry insisted sandra leave kauai to go to college. she ended up in honolulu. but for a small island girl it felt as big and lonely as new york city. she missed kauai, her family, and would come home as often as she could. that s when she got involved with darren. and darren was here? darren was here. darren galas, a little older. made good money at his highway construction job. sandra was crazy about him. and soon after she moved home they got married. son austin came nine months later and braden two years after that. so by the age of 24 sandra was the matriarch of her own little clan. she loved the boys to death. i mean, she they were the apple of her eye. life was good until april 2005, when sandra came to her parents, very upset. as she told us, she was cleaning out her husband s backpack when two papers fell out, two phone numbers. so she called the phone numbers and it turned out to be two different married women. sandra confronted darren. he would never admit it. he just kept saying they were friends, they were friends. and she knew otherwise? she knew what it was. by june darren had moved out and sandra moved on, got a job at the beach house restaurant, an island landmark. it was a life changer. she was just a darling girl, you know, with two darling children. crystal hall was a waitress at the beach house and saw firsthand sandra s transformation from quiet island girl to young working woman. she wore her hair back in a ponytail and she was very prim and proper and very, you know, subdued. as soon as she got away from darren she was like cut her hair in a bob and was really cute and stylish all of a sudden. sandra started going out with friends, and as is pretty obvious in this concert video she was enjoying her new life. before too long sandra started getting friendly with one of the chefs, a recent transplant from oahu named ryan shinjo. he wined and dined her and took really good care of her. he was really nice to her. they were always doing all kinds of fabulous things. going on honolulu shopping trips for instance where ryan would lavish expensive gifts on sandra like louis vuitton luggage. larry and sandra s mom toshie knew little of this relationship. and on january 25th, 2006 were in dallas visiting their son when they got an odd call from sandra s boss. said she hadn t showed up for work. it was very unusual for her. hours later the phone rang again. it was 3:00 a.m., a time when bad news comes calling. larry s son answered the phone. and this is basically how he goes. hello. you know, oh, hi. hi, cousin. no! coming up she was slumped to the right, to the passenger s seat, face down. who wanted sandra dead? 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thin thin cord like a fishing line. sandra s shirt and bra were askew, her lip was split as if she had punched in the face. ryan, the boyfriend he s the one on the right of the screen told investigators he discovered sandra s body around 9:00 p.m., but the cops could see she had been dead for a while by then. probably eight to ten hours. which would have put the time of death about what? in the morning. could you get any more exact? no. given that the estranged husband, darren, used to live with sandra and ryan was now dating her, their fingerprints could certainly be explained. nothing suspicious there. but ryan finding the body? well, that was potentially suspicious. did he have an alibi? yes. ah, and it checked out? yes. do you remember what it was? he was at work. so who else? well, there was sandra s estranged husband, darren, of course, and this was interesting. that morning he called in sick. so in other words he didn t have an alibi? no. and based simply on that lack of an alibi the police arrested darren. when they first said, you think her husband could have done it, and my first reaction was no. but even as larry tried to wrap his mind around that idea, a detective called him the following day. and he says, we ve got to let him go. we don t have enough. we ve talked to the prosecuting attorney and we don t have enough. meaning what? was darren involved or not? hit by grief and impatient for answers, larry launched an investigation of his own. it was like a i don t know, a panic. i mean, you know, i ve got so many things to do and i ve got to get it done now. as a native kauaiian and a veteran air force intelligence analyst, larry had both the connections and the skills to piece together the details surrounding his daughter s murder. for instance, he found out that two days before the killing darren while working on a road crew saw sandra and ryan together. she goes driving by with her boyfriend in the car. and from what we re told from his co-workers at the time he went ballistic. he just flipped out. at that time and this is important to the case sandra and darren shared custody of their two sons but, remember, she worked evenings at the restaurant, so the boys slept over with darren. and at 6:00 in the morning she would show up, pick them up, take them off for breakfast, get them ready for school and daycare. but larry discovered on the night before she was murdered sandra stayed over at ryan s house, her boyfriend. he dropped her off at her place at 6:00 a.m. and then the neighbors told larry they saw her leave in her car soon after that, apparently heading to pick up the boys. and neighbors confirmed they saw sandra s car return a short while later but without the children. larry learned through his contacts that sandra had a 10:00 appointment that morning to get her nails done at a salon about 45 minutes away. she never made the appointment. so this is how we narrowed down the time of death, before about 9:00 where she would have had to leave to make her appointment. the cops didn t tell him, but larry learned from his own sources that boyfriend ryan had an alibi when husband darren did not, all of which got larry thinking the same thing as the police, must have been darren who murdered sandra. right now i m driven by the case. i mean, i ve got to get there. many of sandra s friends like crystal hall also thought darren was guilty. i think everyone thought that darren would be arrested immediately and, you know, he would be going to jail and the children would be going to the grandparents or her brother and everything was going to be okay. and exactly one year after the murder there was, indeed, an arrest. but it wasn t darren. coming up we ve got to get this case solved. a new theory about sandra s murder. she may have been smuggling drugs in her new louis vuitton suitcases and not even knowing it. and a threat from her father. if i ever figure out a way to get away with it, it will happen. when dateline continues. shouldn t you pay less when you use less data? 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when he took her to honolulu, was she bringing back meth with her? who knows, she may have been smuggling drugs in her new louis vuitton suitcase and not even known it. and the final act of the story? sandra found out about the drug ring and was killed before she could go to the police. but that was just a rumor in a sea of rumors. police didn t seem any closer to finding sandra s killer, whoever it was. the case grew colder with each passing year. larry still thought darren killed sandra, and it seemed wherever larry went on this small island, there he was. this is the house there with the boat and truck in there. it s not easy going by here and knowing that he s still running free. we ve we ve got to get this case solved. on this day larry and sandra s mom toshie had to see darren at grandson austin s little league game. that s darren on the field coaching. and in the dugout with his girlfriend cherrine, a woman he d known since before sandra s murder. and it was at this point, 2009, three years after sandra s murder, when larry felt the time had come for him to go from investigator to avenger. he was seriously thinking about killing darren. if i ever figure out a way to get away with it, it will happen. fortunately, the arrival of a new kauai police chief put his hands on hold. darryl perry, a 30-year veteran of the honolulu pd, agreed to meet with larry and listen to his theories about the case. he showed to me the scene and explained to me what happened, and i could feel his grief. i mean it wasn t of any forensic value to you for you to be there to look at it, was it? no, not at all. the point was what? the point was i wanted him to realize that there is somebody there that s listening to him. what did you do next? we went to her grave site. we stood there and what were you thinking about? i was thinking about the sadness in the loss of a child. there s nothing, nothing, nothing like it. nobody can understand unless they ve been there. not unless you ve lost a child. chief perry was struggling to tell us that he did know what it was like to lose a child. he came out of retirement and took the job as head of the kauai police department after the sudden death of his 26-year-old son erickson. i feel in a way that i m working through him, that he motivates me. i believe that things happen for a reason. and in fact, i told larry this. i told him, there s a reason why we met. i don t know what the reasons are, but i m here for you. so after meeting with larry, chief perry sent sandra s file to a couple of friends in honolulu, investigators with the state attorney general s cold case unit. i asked them to see if they can find anything else that we may have missed. and they did indeed find something, using what was breakthrough science for that time, early 2009. cold case investigators extracted touch dna from sandra s shirt and bra. chief perry called larry with the news. and he said, they ve got something. they rescanned her clothes and they found two how did he put it? two microscopic particles of a male origin. sometimes it s what you find and sometimes it s what you don t. coming up you know, going through the calendar what i found really interesting is that it s pretty detailed from january 1st all the way up until the 24th. but on the morning of sandra s murder you ve got nothing. when dateline continues. hef allergens in each cubic yard of air. no wonder you rub your eyes hundreds of times a day. but now, relief is just one drop away. introducing pataday® full prescription strength pataday works right in your eyes. right on the cells that make them itch. fast. just one drop, once a day means relief that lasts all day. so turn your day, into a pataday. now get pataday without a prescription. everywhere. your happy place. find your breaking point. then break it. every emergen-c gives you a potent blend of nutrients so you can emerge your best, with emergen-c. protect your pet with the #1 name in flea and tick protection. frontline plus. trusted by vets for nearly 20 years. and mine super soft? 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it appeared that way, yeah. we believe that there was a struggle outside of the vehicle in the garage, and that s due to some evidence that was on the outside front of the vehicle. but wait a minute smudge marks and hair. when you look at how this homicide happened, it wasn t sexually motivated or it wasn t a robbery. it really was focused on anger. and so ponce circled right back to those original two suspects, husband darren, boyfriend ryan. but which one? from the file ponce learned ryan, in addition to being a drug trafficker, had also been convicted of domestic violence. and was there something fishy about how he found sandra s body? he told the cops he went to sandra s house. doors were locked. he said he peered through these ventilation slats at the base of her garage wall. said he saw sandra in her car. and calling out sandra, sandra. and then he says he couldn t get into the door. he called a friend to help him open the door. called a friend to help him find a body? wouldn t be the first time a guilty party did that. did ryan remain here at the scene, wait for the police officers, and talk to them then? yeah. was there anything in the report about his demeanor that night? you know, initially investigators thought that maybe he wasn t saying everything that happened. holding back a little. yeah. and maybe he was a little bit nervous. but ryan had an alibi, right? he was at work when sandra was killed. well, ponce found out the estimated time of sandra s death was really more of a rough guess. and that sandra could just as well have been murdered hours earlier, when ryan wasn t at work. and then there were the results from ryan s 2006 polygraph exam. what was the result of that? he wasn t viewed as passed. sxl whi . which didn t look good for ryan. except darren s polygraph result didn t look so good either. how d he do? he didn t do that good. he didn t pass. that was interesting. both suspects failed the polygraph. so now ponce looked at the evidence against darren, who gave police two entirely different accounts of the morning of the murder. first he said sandra came by to get the kids. then a minute later said she didn t. now, remember, darren and sandra were going through a divorce and a heated child custody battle. so darren apparently thought it would be a good idea to take note of run-ins with sandra, like the time she was late in picking up the boys, hoping it would one day help him in court. you know, going through the calendar what i found really interesting is that it s pretty detailed from january 1st, every day, all the way up until the 24th is the very last entry. and on the 25th you ve got nothing. why is that important? because sandra was murdered that very morning, the morning of the 25th. about the time when she would have been picking up her sons. you would expect darren to have wrote down in there that sandra never showed up to pick up the boys, that he had to take off from work. reporter: but he didn t. nor did he call her to find out why she was a no-show. ponce theorized that sandra actually did go to darren s house to get the boys but there was an argument of some sort and she left without them. darren, still angry, followed her home, parking his truck on a street behind sandra s cul-de-sac. his path, you know, basically leads to the cul-de-sac, and her house is just three houses down right when you come to the end of this walkway. very, very close. easy access. so you think that darren came up, followed her, had the confrontation there, killed her with a ligature, choked her to death. then what did he do? you know, i think after the incident happened over here he went back and just took off and headed back home. and nobody saw him? it was still dark. ponce also found this e-mail sandra sent her lawyer just three weeks before her murder. darren started asking me about my boyfriend, as he calls him, ryan. he got really upset and started swearing at me. he started shaking me, telling me to tell him the truth and don t ever call him again. ponce worked the investigation for close to a year. but as he weighed and reweighed the evidence, he always came back to darren, who lacked an alibi, who called in sick to work, who gave conflicting accounts about the morning of the murder, who left blank the diary entry for the 25th. who failed a polygraph. who was jealous of ryan. who never called sandy to find out why she didn t pick up the boys. ponce delivered his final report to chief perry and prosecutor neseri and a handful of investigators. we all believed it was proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the case was not going to get any better than what we had. and prosecutor aseri finally agreed to present the case to a grand jury. and in october 2012 the grand jury indicted darren for sandra s murder. so was larry s quest for justice finally over? 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on october 31st, 2012, darren galas was charged with the murder of his wife, sandra. he pleaded not guilty, was released on bail. 6 1/2 months later, on may 15th, 2013, sandra s dad larry and mom toshie held this memorial dedication service outside kauai s domestic violence center. chief perry was there, as was bryson ponce. but darren stayed away, as did sandra s two sons. as most of you know, today is sandy s birthday. this is why it s a very, very special day for us. mahalo. at this point larry and toshie thought they were in the home stretch, that darren s trial was just months away. but the prosecuting attorney who indicted darren lost her bid for re-election, defeated by this man, justin kollar, who flat out accused his predecessor of bringing charges against darren to make a splash and help her chances of re-election though the case, he said, wasn t ready for trial. this case is the textbook example of why you do not insert politics into people s lives. got you. and into their families. so now larry s quest for justice was mired in the political battle. with the new prosecutor saying he couldn t proceed because the alternate suspect, ryan shinjo, had never been completely eliminated. if you have cases where you have multiple suspects and you re going to charge one of those suspects, you better be sure you ve excluded the other suspect. former prosecutor shailene aseri fired back, saying the entire investigative team voted to seek an indictment. the team decided unanimously. it wasn t shailene s decision. it was the team s decision. i definitely feel that there was more than overwhelming evidence to convict mr. galas. you could have gotten that conviction? oh, i definitely believe so. she s dreaming, said kollar, she never would have won. so kollar reopened the investigation again and delayed the trial again while his office tried to strengthen the case, and the result was one trial delay after another. and three years later, 2015 now, larry was one furious 74-year-old man. kauai is a murderer s paradise. if you want to kill somebody, come to kauai and you ve got probably about an 80%, 90% chance of getting away with it, and i firmly believe that. there was never any point during this process where the file was just sitting on a shelf getting dusty. there s always something that was being done, another piece of evidence that was being tested, another witness that was being looked for. but you must have been ready to let it go at some point, said we can t do this, just forget about it. that conversation happened any number of times over the years, but at each time we said no, there s got to be a way to move this forward. it was larry s kind of constant input, part of the thing that kept you going here? of course. i mean none of us wanted to get that call saying, hey, larry s larry wants to see you right away and he s not happy. when we spoke to larry in 2015, darren s trial was on the calendar for march of the following year, and the odds larry gave of that happening? i would say probably a little better than 50/50. but even that was optimistic. the trial was delayed again until november 2016, but has that trial date approached the defense requested another delay and the judge granted it. the case was continued to august 2017. and as that date approached, we looked back on what larry said to us in 2015. someday this is going to end, you know, one way or another, and maybe i can rest a little bit. early in the morning of the 14th of february, 2017, larry mendonca, age 75, went out to play a round of golf. wasn t feeling well. called his son, lawrence, in texas. and told me he was having a heart attack and he was going to the emergency room. what was that like? it was pretty intense. but being as stubborn as my dad is, don t worry about it, i ll be fine, they re just going to put a stent in me, i will be fine. i don t think he knew the magnitude of the situation at the time. coming up, a father fights for his life. to see him in that hospital bed was tough, very tough. what will happen to his fight for justice? 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here s keith morrison with the conclusion of the other side of paradise. larry mendonca didn t understand what was happening to him when he was walking this fairway playing golf. it was only later when the doctor intervened rushed him by air ambulance to honolulu. heart attack, triple bypass surgery. and then a stroke. it was difficult for me to see how vulnerable he was at that time. because he always seemed like the unvulnerable man p. correct. he was superman to myself and my sister. and to see him in that situation in that hospital bed, it was tough. very tough. it was sheer cussiveness probably that pulled him back from the brink. my card yol gist says the whole thing was probably due to the 10, 12 years of stress. larry spent months in physical therapy to build up the strength to attend darren galas s trial, scheduled for the summer of 2017. but it was delayed yet again. and darren during all this time? out and about. this time we found him at son austin s soccer game. that s him wearing the black t-shirt, gold chain, and wraparound sunglasses. and in the blue shirt his wife, sherine. larry and his wife toeshie were there at the socker game too. always are. and what he felt on his chest was more rage than physical pain. someday i might lose it all. i really don t know what i m going to do. you never know till it happens. then, late 2017, a breakthrough. the prosecutor felt his investigators had finally and fully eliminated ryan as a suspect, which now only left darren in their sights. we had done? work over the years that had made the case somewhat better. maybe darren looked himself in the mirror and said i know i did it. i don t know. but they said, we ll plead. but plead guilty to murder? no. darren agreed to plead no contest to assault. you had a murder case here. no contest to assault sounds like not very bad. well, we may think we have a murder case. we may know that he did it. but it s all about what you can prove in a court of law. and on january 29th, 2018, 12 years after sandra s murder, we were with larry outside the courthouse just an hour before the plea hearing. and as you might have guessed, he wasn t happy. there s no no justice. what are the chance that s thing could fall apart over there this morning? there s a possibility. he can i m told he can change his mind at any given time, up to the time he is sentenced. but what happened here drawing your attention to the no contest plea form as darren formally changed his plea from not guilty to murder 2 to no contest to assault 1. thank you. was not final resolution but more delay. the court granted darren four more months of freedom before sentencing. and larry? well i m very mad. i m very upset. there was once a time just after sandra s murder when larry toshie were hoping to raise sandra s boys. but now? he s been working on them for 12 years. he s been brainwashing them. they hate their mother. they hate their grandparents. as he left court darren was protected by a phalanx of friends and relatives which included the two grandsons. darren declined to speak with us, but his defense lawyer, michael green, did stop to talk. there s a big difference between pleading no contest and 34r5 pleading guilty. it certainly suggests he did something to her. well, he assaulted her. that very day? he didn t kill her? and he doesn t admit to the assault. no contest means he neither admits nor denies charges. but now for four months uncertainty. because the judge had the power to sentence darren to anything from ten years in prison to probation. what i foresee at sentencing, they re going to ask for leniency. do you think he could actually avoid going to prison altogether? at this point i wouldn t put anything past them. may 30th, 2018 we were back outside the courthouse with larry mendonca. this time he was the one surrounded by supporters. a 12-year investigation now reduced to just an hour in court that felt as stressful and tense as any jury trial. would darren be carted off to prison or would the judge give him probation and send him home? darren s lawyer, michael green, reminded the judge there had been an alternate suspect. this guy shinjo, who was a person of interest the entire time. then he told the judge to remember this was not a murder case. there s an agreement that my client will plead guilty to nothing. nothing. he s offered to plead no contest to an assault charge. and then larry got his chance finally to let 12 years of pain pour out. starting with that first awful night when he broke the news to toshi. how do you tell a woman that the baby she had once nursed, falling asleep in her arms, played on her lap, skipped off to school clutching the lunch that she had made for her, was now dead? we received a life sentence for the pain, sorrow, agony, and frustration. a life sentence with no parole. eternity. darren stoically sat through it all. and then, what sentence would the judge impose? she began by quoting darren s attorney. and that is that he pled no contest to the charge of assault in the first degree. that s what the sentencing is about. and larry s stomach started to tighten. my lawyer reached over and says, this doesn t sound good. and then, six minutes into her ruling, finally, here it was. you are hereby ordered, committed to the custody of the director of the department of public safety for imprisonment for a period of ten years. ten years. the maximum she could impose. and with that the mendonca family s 12-year quest for justice came to an end. that brought justice for my daughter and my fulfillment. larry and toshi follow a series of rituals on the anniversary of sandra s death. they bring flowers to her memorial outside the ywca, have lunch at the beach house restaurant where sandra once worked, and they pray by her graveside at holy cross cemetery, where she is surrounded by her ancestors. sandra, so home sick when away from this island that she loved, is now forever a part of it. for this edition of dateline. i m natalie morales. thank you for watching. she has a magnetic quality, dark, raven hair, the intense brooding look to her. you re on the edge of your seat because this speaks danger. it was just mayhem. it s the story binge watched around the world. the netflix series evil genius. one of the most diabolical cases in criminal history. a bank robbery and bomb plot. this death trap was locked around his neck. h
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meticulous investigator. just pours over the volumes of evidence and finds things that others do not find. the evidence whisper per. right. does this man act guilty, does he know more than he s saying? i didn t know anything was going on. all right? i just was like, where s lynsie? what about this man? can you believe the story he s telling? i was supposed to pick her up twice. she didn t show up on either day. the evidence whisperer wasn t present at either of the interviews watching them helped him solve the mystery of what happened to a vivacious young woman and bring answers to the mother. she was a real fighter. lynsie ekelund was the youngest of three. maybe that fighting spirit isn t visible in her photos but her mother nancy says it was always there. lynsie had a passion for animals. she helped out in her spare time at a local shelter. kim davidson who worked at lynsie s middle school remembered young lynsie also had a sense of compassion. i was freezing cold and i didn t bring a jacket that day. and i felt these little hands up on my shoulder and a sweater come up around me and i turned around and it was lynsie and she said i can t stand to watch you shiver. lynsie would lie about her age so she could give blood. remarkable in itself because lynsie struggled with her own disabilities. her left arm was paralyzed, left leg impaired. did she ever talk about how she became disabled? she had brought it up to me, she said she was in a car accident and that she was thrown and when she was a little girl but very, very just like matter of fact. but growing up, lynsie needed so much care. her mother nancy was with lynsie like her shadow. she was my only purpose. in my life it was to make her as normal as she could be. by the time kim met lynsie, the dad and brothers had moved away and kim remembers a tight family unit of just two. how close were lynsie and nancy? unbelievably extremely. but as lynsie reached adolescence, that started to change. like a lot of teens she wanted her own identity. she changed the spelling of her name from this to this. by high school there were girlfriends. even some boyfriends. and by the time she was 20, after so many years of mom and daughter being each other s best friends and confidants lynsie began to keep some things in her life to herself like where she was really headed one night in february 2001. does it make any sense about why she d lie about what was she with was doing that night? i never knew her to lie to me by you don t know what you know. it was a friday night, lynsie was in college but still living at home. instead of the usual friday night dinner, she was staying the night with a girlfriend named andrea. someone nancy had never met. and then a young man named chris came to the door to pick lynsie up. she introduces you to this guy, chris. did chris say hello to you? yeah. was he polite, have good manners? uh-huh. she said something felt wrong. i had a feeling about him. what feeling? i don t know. but you put it aside? mm-hmm. of course, nancy was used to things feeling wrong. she had spent so many years worrying about lynsie. it was a struggle to let go. but she did. last thing i said to her was, remember your seat belt and she looks over her shoulder around she says, back at you, mom, love you. that s the last thing she said to me. nancy locked up the house and went to bed. the next day, lynsie was supposed to call after she was done tutoring two girls from the neighborhood. but when the call never came over, she drove over and found out that lynsie never how issed up. she had taught the little girls for four mounts. you have no way of reaching her? i had no way. nancy ekelund was frantic. i started calling hospitals. i called the morgue. that s how desperate i was to see if there was a jane doe in the morgue. there was no jane doe. and there was no lynsie ekelund. most people who disappear like that, they come back within a couple of days. if not 24 hours. is that what you thought would happen? we all did. corinne loomis was a detective. we had no unidentified bodies. you checked the er? we checked everything, everybody. there was no sign, it was as if she vanished. coming up when is the last time you saw lynsie? a week ago now. when dateline continues. el, steven could only imagine enjoying a spicy taco. now, his world explodes with flavor. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day all-night protection. can you imagine 24-hours without heartburn? who knows where that button is? i don t have silent. everyone does right up here. it happens to all of us. we buy a new home, and we turn into our parents. what i do is help new homeowners overcome this. what is that, an adjustable spanner? 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no. matthew ramirez, they had been on and off a bit, but then when i went to her house thursday, you know, she was like i want to break up. as can happen with young romance, what was offer was soon back on. lynsie and matt were back together in time for the weekend. but not in time to make plans for that friday night. you know, she was like yeah, i m going to san diego with chris and everybody. you know, i told her to be careful, okay. she went okay. then in came the last person known to have seen her. chris mcam us, 21 years old. lynsie had met her through friends four months prior and it turned out, he never drove lynsie to andrea s house for a sleepover. chris said that was a lie lynsie made up for her mother. the real plan was to go clubbing all night in san diego. please don t tell my mom we re going to san diego because my mom won t let us go, or won t let me go or something like that. and don t tell her that we re clubbing. chris told police when their night of clubbing went bust, they headed home earlier than expected. he dropped off the other girls he said and then headed to lynsie s house. chris said it was after 4:00 a.m. when he finally got back here to lynsie s neighborhood and he said that lynsie was worried that her mom might hear his truck pull up at that hour. so chris said lynsie asked to be dropped off not at her house but at the corner about 50 yards away. that sounded strange to police. until they heard from lynsie s friends that at other times she had asked to be dropped off right here. chris said he then drove home and police even found a photo from a bank atm of what looked like chris truck heading north on the right street, at the right time. to the cops, chris story added up. and that was when police learned matthew and chris were not the only men in lynsie s life. there was someone else who both matthew and chris had mentioned to investigators, an older man who drove lynsie around. no one knew his name. they had heard lynsie refer to him as her friend. all anybody knows him by? as her friend. yeah. nancy had no idea lynsie was friends with any older man. she was about to find out. two days after lynsie vanishes you get a phone call. yes. you re pretty much at your wit s end at this point. yes. and the phone rings, did you know marty? no. did lynsie know a marty? no. marty told nancy he had gone to pick up lynsie at school but she wasn t there. he had money of lynsie that she needed for tuition. none of that made any sense to nancy. after lynsie goes missing, nancy her mother gets a phone call. from a guy named marty. marty rossler. what does he say to her? marty says that he s befriended lynsie. he s a friend of lynsie s and he s concerned because he hadn t heard from her. what did you learn about marty? marty rossler was not marty. he did not have a criminal record. what he did have with a relationship with lynsie that he hadn t told his wife about. he told police he d often pick lynsie up and give her rides but that wasn t it. marty was 58. she was 20? she was 20. and they were boyfriend and girlfriend? don t think so. there you go. so police brought in marty. over two days, they recorded those interviews. at times on video and sometimes just on audiotape. when s the last time you saw lynsie? a week ago now. i don t think so. absolutely. absolutely not. marty said that he had last seen lynsie the day that she went to san diego on that friday. did you believe him? we really didn t believe him. they didn t believe him because of a tip they received. a clerk at a local clothing store had called to say she had seen lynsie and a much older man who matched marty s description together at her store after the day lynsie meant missing. i had been in that store, okay, i m like you. i m easily you know, identified, you know? tell me every place, they would know i was in there with her. okay? it was a very long interview. friendly? no. no. i remember drilling down on him because i really thought that he might know where lynsie was. your parents yes. how many kids do you have? two. if you had a child gone for eight days, they vaporized in thin air, would your heart not be broken? oh, absolutely. do you not feel some compassion for nancy? unbelievable. i think this is a nice girl and this family had its share of hardships. i feel so helpless. i don t think you re helpless. i think you can help us. marty insisted he couldn t. that he didn t know what had happened to lynsie. detectives weren t buying. did you harm no. no. never. never by accident? accidents happen. never touched her. okay? you know, never touched her. okay. this girl did you put her some place where she s left? no. no. police searched marty s home and found nothing. no proof that marty had anything to do with lynsie s disappearance. so they moved on to a new suspect. someone closer to lynsie than anyone else on earth. dateline returns after the break. dateline returns after the break. you make my heart sing but i wanna know for sure yeah we all wanna know, honey. so. blue. blue means boy. blue means boy! it s a boy! if you ride, you get it. geico motorcycle. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. geico motorcycle. a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesn t get everything clean. i tell them, it may be your detergent. that s why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum. .with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time. cascade platinum. yoat nature s way, that startsn with quality ingredients. like our sambucus - made from elderberries grown and picked at their prime. choose the way to quality immune support, choose nature s way sambucus. nancy and lynsie had been together all lynsie s life. now, alone, nancy waited ticking off days. in the dark about where her daughter was and about the pace of the investigation. police were not keeping her in the loop. so nancy was delighted when they called to say they were coming to visit. you were looking at the boyfriend matthew, marty the older guy, the relationship nobody knew about. he denies it. right. you look at chris. he says i dropped her of and never saw her again. right. and you look at lynsie s mother. we did look at lynsie s mother. you have to. so i made my cookies and all this kind of silly stuff. i thought coffee, right? yeah. the cops weren t coming for coffee. they arrived with a search warrant. shovels. and cadaver dogs. i was shocked that they even suspected me. i didn t know what even a search warrant was. the house nancy and lynsie had once shared was torn apart. how big of a suspect was nancy? i don t know that nancy was on the radar for a long time. she was on long enough to be able to set her aside. after that search, they did just that. they believed this anguished mother had nothing to do with the disappearance of her daughter. so they took nancy off the list. they also took off the boyfriend, matthew. he had an alibi that held up. putting him somewhere else at the time lynsie went missing. so that left just two. i haven t seen her since that day. marty who police didn t trust because of his secret relationship with lynsie. and because he had lied about his identity. and the man who dropped lynsie off at that corner. the last person to see her before she vanished, chris mcamis. go in here do you remember yeah. april 2002. more than a year after lynsie went missing, detectives decided to start over. they brought chris mcamis back to see if his story still held up. i really would like to think that lynsie has been like abducted or like what? i d really rather think police turned up the heat. this bull about being positive, let s get down to the nitty-gritty and i like to think in my pollyanna mind okay. it s a possibility. right. police thought chris seemed oddly calm talking about a friend who may have been murdered. it turns out somebody killed her, what do you think should happen? i want to find them. go to jail. how long should they go to jail? as long as it takes. like what? i don t know. for a while. that s as strong as you can get out of him? as strong as we could get out of him. not go to the gas chamber. not my friend, she didn t deserve that. it was not evidence, and after the interview chris mcamis was free to leave and detectives weren t any closer to learning what happened to lynsie ekelund. and neither was nancy. who remained convinced her daughter would one day just come home. you thought that one day she would walk back through the door. yes. she believed it because she wanted to. and because over the years several people had told her they had seen lynsie. they never saw the front of her face. they always saw the back of her and i held on to every word they said. it was torture for nancy. no matter what version of events you believed and police still weren t telling her anything. nancy during all this time feels like she s been sort of cut out of the loop. yes. nancy was pretty angry. we worked this case diligently for a long time. at some point, you hit the wall. at the time there were nine detectives working on everything, gangs, rapes, murder and cold cases. by 2008 it was clear placentia pd had hit that wall. they would need help on this one and who they needed was a guy named larry. tell me about larry. larry s phenomenal. phenomenal because what? he sees things other cops don t seen? phenomenal because he sees cops don t see. i don t know anybody who could have done a better job than larry. the evidence whisperer were about to listen to what the facts of this case were really saying. was there something that police had missed? you bet. coming up that picture of the truck spotted on the night of the crime. something about it just doesn t seem right. but the evidence whisperer is all over it. when dateline continues. when dateline continues. hello. i m dara brown. georgia and oklahoma took the first steps toward reopening their economies allowing salons an barbershops to open up. despite a death toll of nearly 50,000 from the virus. meanwhile, lawmakers pushed through a fourth relief bill aimed at helping employees and hospitals. nearly $500 billion package includes funds for testing which governors say is a key factor toward restarting the economy. now back to dateline. welcome back to dateline. i m craig melvin. where was lynsie ekelund? the investigation was at a stand still. detectives had two possible suspects but no evidence linking either of them to her disappearance. enter cold case detective larry montgomery, also known as the evidence whisperer. could he uncover some crucial clues so many others had missed? here again is josh mankiewicz with the night lynsie disappeared. by 2008, lynsie ekelund had been missing for seven years. the case had gone from cold to frozen in time. so placentia pd decided to outsource the investigation to the cold case unit at the orange county das office to larry montgomery. he s put away his share of bad guys. not usually by knocking on doors. instead, larry works by looking very closely at the evidence. he doesn t work fast. in fact, larry is meticulously slow and that was just what this cold case needed. was there anything in the original investigation that struck you as something that you needed to re-examine? everything. everything that had led placentia police into that wall. trying to decide between two suspects. no, i m concerned about this girl, you know? she s missing. marty, lynsie s older friend who kept their relationship a secret and lied about his name. and chris. and lied about his ne and chris. the last person to have seen lynsie when he dropped her at that corner. at that point, which of the two was the more likely suspect? no, i don t know until i see the details. you re no doubt aware you have a reputation for believing i don t know if god s in the details but guilt s in the details. and innocence. guilty or innocent. was it marty or chris? larry even considered another possibility. could it have been random? someone who had seen lynsie at just the wrong time? so you have a bad guy just waiting, hoping that a girl drops out of a car at 4:25 in the morning. it happens. yep. and you can consider that and then you weigh it and you go, is that a good possibility? probably not. but still, keep an open mind. so larry sat down and read through the entire case file. all the witness statements, all the interviews. he did that for two years. okay, we re going down this road again. he watched the february 2001 interview that police did with a very unhappy marty. doesn t it strike you as tremendously suspicious that marty would call and talk to lynsie s mother and give a phony name? if you don t know the background of marty, then absolutely. when i talked to the mother on the phone, i just gave her an identifier, you know? marty rossler, is what i said. which is a lie. which is a lie. watching that interview, larry chalked up marty s dishonesty as an attempt to save his marriage. i don t want my wife to be brought into this thing. larry also took a closer look at the idea that marty and lynsie were together at that clothing store after she went missing. i wasn t there on that day. no one ever found any security video of that and larry s learned over the years that well-meaning people often get dates wrong. and larry learned a key fact. marty had actually participated in those early searches for lynsie. you eliminated marty fairly quickly then? yes. marty s behavior matched up with that of an innocent person, not with a guilty one? that s correct. he is actually doing exactly what you would do you were if looking for lynsie. he was searching. so larry montgomery turned his attention to chris mcamis. guilty or innocent? chris was the last person known to be with lynsie. he told police he drove straight home after dropping lynsie off. and police found that photo of what looked like his truck. heading north away from lynsie s neighborhood, which took him past this atm camera. the video from the atm camera, police at the time saw that as, not ironclad proof that chris was telling the truth, but suggestive what he said he actually did. correct. but when larry compared photos of chris truck with the photos from the bank, he saw something no one else had noticed. the paint on the back of the side view mirror on chris truck was white. what about the truck in the photo? truck in the photo had a dark spot which means whatever mirrors if there were mirrors there were black. so it s not the same truck? that s right. it s not. suddenly chris alibi had a big hole on it. he moved on to chris history with women. two ex-girlfriends talked about how chris would become unhinged with the disrespect. he learned about how he had crushed a pet crab with a hammer right in front of one of his girlfriends because he thought the crab had killed one of his fish. this is a guy with some significant anger issues. certainly appears that way. larry listened to chris interviews and caught him talking some of the time about lynsie in the past tense. it was pretty much like this. then larry found something in the paperwork from placentia p d. that proved chris mcamis had lied to the police early on about his whereabouts on saturday, february 17th, the day lynsie didn t come home. chris said he stayed close to home, but larry checked chris credit card statement. there was one entry on february 17th and it turns out it was santa clarita which is 50 miles north of where chris lived. why would chris be in santa clarita? well, that s what i wanted to know. digging through the reports, larry found information about chris dad. that he was in construction. and that in 2000 and 2001 and he had a job site in santa clarita. back in 2001 this was a major construction site and chris had told police he did not work for his dad that winter, he was on unemployment. but larry saw some big cash deposits going into chris bank account in addition to the unemployment checks and he thought he was working off the books. chris father did some of the tractor work there. country worked there? he was one of the workers there. is this where you thought to yourself, that s where lynsie ekelund is? i thought chances are excellent that if i killed lynsie, and i was in chris mcamis situation and i had use of a tractor out in the middle of nowhere, i might use that tractor to dig a hole to put her in. now all the evidence whisperer had to do was prove it. coming up an undercover operation. were you armed? yes. and you were wearing a wire? 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[tina] you re an old lady. it was october of 2010, nine years after her daughter had disappeared and nancy ekelund was waiting and doing what she could. she was now at 3,535 days without lynsie. she didn t know it, but a few miles away larry montgomery was tightening the noose around chris mcamis. larry had recruited a motorcycle cop from a nearby town to go undercover. they needed a police officer who looked like a college student and didn t have the mannerisms of a police officer. spring was that officer. how are you dressed? jeans on. a little shirt. something that a college student would wear. were you armed? yes. were you wearing a wire? yeah. hi, are you chris? yes. i m nicole from the magazine. she was posing as a student reporter, complete with a phony press pass. she knocked on chris front door. chris had talked to a student reporter in the past about the case. you used your real name? no. a fake name. i told him who i was. well, we just received word at torch magazine that remains have been found that they believe belong to lynsie. i guess they re doing dna testing right now and in the meantime i m supposed to contact friends and family and get their initial reaction for a story. okay. when i told him that the police believe they found lynsie s remains his demeanor changed. how? quite drastically, actually. i could see the color in his face went white. the police had not found lynsie s remains. that was a lie. police do it all the time and it s legal. in fact, larry had tried to find lynsie up at the construction location where chris had worked and he had gotten some interest from cadaver dogs but nothing more. just down the street from chris house, bryce angel of the placentia pd who had been assigned to work with larry was listening in and keeping an eye on the action. so you re watching him while this interview happens on the front doorstep? yeah. i was sitting, you know, ten houses down, watching the reporter or the undercover police officer. once she left the area we were in business. what happens? later that night, he was seen coming out of his house and going into the garage, we re talking like 3:00 in the morning. it was clearly a sign of somebody who couldn t sleep. detectives were sure that they had rattled their suspect. the next day, they trailed chris when he left his house. at some point, it became apparent that he knew we were following him. they broke off surveillance. and brought chris in. chris, have a seat. larry had read all about chris mcamis. and he had looked at tape of every time he had been in. he and chris were going to meet for the first time. i have been investigating this case for about two years now. i m a cold case celebrity. larry had a plan to get chris to talk without asking for a lawyer. you probably want to know what s going on. what s happening, why you re sitting here. he wanted to fill him in on the details thinking that the cops had the goods. since you re under arrest i ll advise you of your rights and then i want to explain everything. larry read chris rights andp this before chris could really respond, larry laid out his case. he knew chris had never dropped lynsie off that night. because the atm photo that at first fooled investigators actually proved chris wasn t there. it wasn t your truck, but for years we thought it was your truck but it s not. as a matter of fact, your truck did not go by that night. it wasn t there. he told chris about the credit card statement and how he found someone who remembered chris working on the job site. all of a sudden, big red flags. about you. you are working, you are up there when you said you were not. but he said you don t work on saturday. lynsie disappeared on a saturday morning. none of your credit card usage up there is on any weekend, all weekdays except for the day that lynsie disappeared. he told chris the lie about lynsie being found. we went and recently got dna from mother and dad of lynsie and had that checked against the body. and it s lynsie. so now we have got lynsie up there, right in the area where you were. right at the time when you did not drop her off. and we have enough to prove the crime. and knowing about chris anger issues with previous girlfriends, larry summoned up a little empathy to draw chris in. i know that you have that ability to be angry. but i don t know what would cause her to get you that angry. what she could have done. chris didn t say much until a little body language revealed that larry was on the right track. was it a premeditated thing? i didn t think it was. so what did she do? larry finished talking. he was hoping chris would give it up. i think i need a lawyer to talk to you about this with me. well, it s up to you. the supreme court had made it pretty clear if someone declares that they want an attorney, the interview is supposed to stop until one can be hired or provided. but in this case, larry was walking a line. believing that asking for a lawyer isn t the same up as wondering if you need one. corinne loomis was watching from another room. that s as close as you can get i want a lawyer line without crossing it. saying i want it, right. were you holding your breath? yeah. this was a make or break interview. if he didn t confess he was going to walk again. dateline returns after the break. dateline returns after the break. you know, new customers save over $1,000 on average when they bundle home and auto with progressive. wow, that s. and now the progressive commercial halftime show, featuring smash mouth. hey now, you re an all star get your game on, go play thank you! goodnight! 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i m calling the police. when i got up and walked to her, she tried to knock me out with my phone, with my own phone in the face. did she yeah, she like this to my face. and being drunk, it enraged me. it set me on fire. and i grabbed her, flow e throw her on to my bed and i got her into a headlock. okay. and she died. and then what did you do? then i tried to figure out what i should do because i couldn t believe how it just happened that way. quickly, huh? i couldn t believe it. i thought she was just going to pass out and i ended up killing her. that was it. lynsie ekelund had been killed before anyone even realized she was missing. chris says he drove up to the work site and used a skip loader to dig a hole. he held on to her body for a few days and when no one was around, he buried her. did it feel any better to finally no? no. it was a relief, but i wasn t any happier because of it. after the interview, detectives left another detective in the interview room and chris couldn t stop talking. unbelievable. what s that? it s been so long. it finally feels better when you just say what you were supposed to say, you know? i know my life is ruined now. do you know if i m going to get the death penalty for this? you re going to have to ask them those questions. then larry came back. all was meticulous. he wasn t done. he wanted that final de25i8. where approximately was it that you dug the hole to put her? where exactly chris had left lindsay. he explained to chris that even though they had found her remains, which wasn t true, the grave site shifted over the years from flooding. show us where the tractor was park and exactly where you dug the hole. with the detectives, chris returned to the site that had become lynsie s final resting place. right where this tree is, i pulled my truck over and parked it. this tree to our left here? yeah. wherever this tree is, didn t used to exist there when we had construction. okay. he wasn t sure of the exact spot. it s over in this vicinity. all the way to that brush. that brush over there? yeah. it took more than a day of digging to find what was left of lindsay. first they found a shoe, then a jacket and a bracelet. that s how nancy knew they had found her. the coroner confirmed it using dental records. the back of my truck was here. two years later, chris pleaded guilty to murder. his sentence, 15 years to live. you told me that you thought you let this consume your life too much. oh, it did. it does do this day. now it s over. what are you going to do? i don t know. i know life is opening up to you and i don t know. i don t have any answers. i just have to get over this. and that s all for this edition of dateline. i m craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, risky business. at least three states this morning are trying to restart their economies, but why some fear it s too soon. when he gets new information, he likes to talk that throughout loud. a key white house doctor try toes explain the president s remark owes disinfectants. new symptoms, another list is out with coronavirus effects and one report is what is emerging as a surprise killer. overseas, one
national guard, which is their responsibility in the president of the united states has been begging them to do. now the president, as he sat there a spokesperson earlier today, he may have to invoke what is called the insurrection act of 1807 and usurp the power of these weak governors and mayors because they are so completely incompetent. they won t ask for the national guard. our police officers are under attack. some are killed, some are gravely injured. there s absolutely no reason, no excuse that this continues to take place. these riots must be stopped, lives and property are at risk. curfews need to be enforced. until now, they re not being enforced. we have curfews now in effect in many cities that we will be showing you throughout the evening. nobody is listening. law-abiding americans are now finding they must defend themselves on the property, basically fending for themselv themselves. the criminal scum of the thugs who are lighting our cities on fire and looting our businesses and destroying lives, they need to all go to prison for a very long period of time and we have one presidential candidate who said nothing about the cops today. we will have more on my monologue coming up and just moments, but first, joining us live on the ground in new york city with the very latest, bryan llenas is with us. i ve been watching all night, great coverage as usual, thank you for all your doing out there. sean, thank you, good evening. we are, right now, what, an hour past the 8:00 p.m. curfew. it s 8:00 p.m. now, not 11 after what we saw last night with all of the looting. part of the more aggressive posture is new checkpoints on 96th street and broadway. all up and down manhattan. what they re doing now is there really blocking off and cordoning off manhattan because of all of the looting that we saw last night up and down fifth avenue, sixth avenue, herald square, upper eastside, you name it. hundreds of stores hit. you can see over here, the police that are checking to see who lives in the neighborhood and they re also betting delivery some major delivery trucks as well as buses and come but this is completely different from what we saw last night. last night we saw plenty of vehicles full of really lots of stolen items. they were packing up their cars and moving from one block to the next. if you listen to the police scanner, it was one theft after the other. i was live on the air with you when we saw groups of looters, hundreds, thousands of them from different places in the city. tonight it s different. those that are out past curfew mostly the peaceful protesters that had started before. we had some protesters in brooklyn trent f the curfew but there are nearly as many calls of losing last night. here the conversation has all been about whether or not the national guard will be called in new york. new york governor andrew cuomo blames the nypd and mayor bill de blasio for all of the looting that we saw last night. he said that they did not do their job. he also said that he did not believe that right now that the u.s. national guard should be called, though there are 13,000 troops he said on standby. he also went after the mayor saying that bill de blasio underestimated the threat and so we shall see where that goes, but ultimately, the city believes him and the nypd, that if they bring in the national guard, it will escalate tensions. they do not believe that having uniformed personnel in new york city will help. last night, again, there were approximately 500 arrests for looting. 400 of them arrested in manhattan in the heart of new york city and because of new york s bail reform laws, nearly all of them, the nypd tells me, will be released. sean. sean: that is outrageous. i don t know what video there watching, but what i m seeing on what you re describing on the ground, they need all the help they can get an meanwhile, they fighting each other. great coverage, we will be checking in with you throughout the evening, thank you so much. joining us now, jacqui heinrich. she s on the ground in the city of philadelphia tonight where she joins us now. hey there, sean. we are about a half-hour into curfew and a group of thousands justicjust dispersed. after marching peacefully for miles. at one point annealed for 8 minutes and 46 seconds to remember george floyd. it was really peaceful the whole time. it is one tense moment where a person was taken into custody when police tried to block an intersection. they eventually allow that group to pass. however, police did all down the entrances to the freeway after yesterday a group got onto the expressway, stopped traffic and they were tear gassed, a number of them were arrested. the groups again didn t want any trouble like that today. they were saying don t give them what they want and encourage them to move on. if you come up behind me, the national guard is holding down city properties which allowed police to go out into the neighborhood and really patrol the area. last night was quieter than the past few nights, although there have been 700 arrests over the weekend, including two fatal incidents involving looters last night. one was fatally shot by a gun store owner defending his property. 25 officers were hurt and a number of neighborhoods you saw people coming out with guns with baseball bats and defending their own properties. but now, after curfew, the group has dispersed and it was quieter last night with the national guard here allowing them to go out and kind of monitor what s going on so by and large today, it s been peaceful, people sharing the message and wanting to show that image in contrast with the looting you saw taking place over the last few days. george floyd is what people remember. sean: all right, thanks for your coverage on the ground. on the ground in washington, d.c., tonight, fox news correspondent kevin corke. kevin, what s going on in our nation s capital? sean, the air is full of smoke, but not from teargas or anything like that or even pepper spray. it s the kind of smoke that you expect to smell a college campus. that s basically the atmosphere here. i m going to step out of the camera for just a moment. you can see there are still a sizable crowd here, sean. curfew of course was two hours ago here in the nation s capital. most of the crowd that we saw between, say, 5:00 and 8:00 is actually moved on, but we still, as you can see, have probably close to a thousand people out here, maybe several hundred right along the fence line on the north and of lafayette park and for those of you who are unaware, lafayette park is directly in front of the white house, so you have this blocked off with a chain-link fence and you have lots of protesters here. again, not any damage. that i ve been able to see of significance. i did see a sign pulled down but that s about it so far but they are not respecting the curfew. we will see what law enforcement officials have to say about that as we continue into the night. sean: kevin, thank you for your coverage tonight. without confrontations even earlier today. it is 6:08 on the west coast. we check in now with jeff paul from los angeles tonight. jeff. yeah, we are outside actually mayor eric garcetti s house for thousands and thousands of people have gathered peacefully to thoughtfully protest outside his house. some of these protesters are pushing for change in the budget. there is a hashtag going around called care, not cops they want to people s budget. meaning they don t like how money is being allocated right now. they believe too much is being set aside for police and not enough is being put in place for programs right now, especially during what many have endured during this pandemic and many have suffered economically. so there outside here being extremely peaceful, many have marched from downtown to have their voices heard in the mayor is actually addressing i in a citywide address right now from city hall. so far has not acknowledged the protesters outside of his house, but we will see if he does, sean. sean: thanks, jeff, stay safe out there as well. the looters, the vandals wreaking havoc on american cities are dishonoring the memory of george floyd. they re putting people s lives at risk. they are causing death, their causing destruction. here s just some of what has gone down just in the past 24 hours. take a look at this. this is the united states. [inaudible] some coward and now we have four in the hospital. thankfully, thank god you will be subject to arre arrest. can we make some sense out of this? can we make some sense out of it? where standing for law and we are standing for george floyd. george floyd! george floyd! sean: obviously the violence out of control in las vegas, rioters, they shot a police officer in the head last night, he is fighting this very hour for his life, in critical condition. in st. louis, former police officers were shot in the videos we are about to show you are extremely disturbing. in buffalo, in new york, two police officers were injured when a rider barreled into them with an suv. in new york city, another officer was intentionally mowed down, he won flying through the air. also in new york city, another police officer, this time in the bronx, was brutally beaten into the ground by a group of thugs. by the way, conrad mailed the fazio mayor de blasio, what part of this are you seeing that you do not need help? governor cuomo, why aren t you acting? you talk what you don t ask. you have to ask the president for help or he will have to go back to 1807 and invoke the insurrection act. you re police are under attack in your state and your city and your resident far less are getting assaulted in your stores are being booted up and down fifth avenue all the way up to the upper east side of new york. looters were just taking pretty much anything they wanted. even the iconic macy s flagship store, you know the one miracle 34th street, that was looted. cuomo, de blasio, zero answers and they are refusing the president s help and the president is offering to descend immediately the national guard to support them. they re too busy fighting with each other over who gets to ask the president for the guard and whether or not they will even ask for the guard. that s what s going on in new york. now they re leaving the citizens out to dry while they fight amongst themselves. cuomo even openly consider forcibly removing the mayor from office instead of calling and support troops. take a look at this. what happened in new york city was inexcusable. i ve offered the national guard and the mayor has said he can handle it with the nypd. my option is to displace the mayor of new york city and bring in the national guard as the governor in a state of emergency. i don t think we are at that point. b, that would be such a chaotic situation. sean: just like with the pandemic, coronavirus, new york so-called leaders have miserably once again failed the citizens in their state and in their city. by the way, here s a pretty safe bet and prediction for new york state and new york city. the state is already number one, they leave the country in people leaving the state and city because of their incompetence, their high taxes and after coronavirus and that disaster at that debacle with the nursing homes, now watching what is happening before our eyes the last few nights, well, we can then watch what happens to the empire state in the once great city of new york. i have a prediction, not hard to make. these events will accelerate a mass migration and history will group blame both of these people for their pathetic lack of action and preparedness. by the way, democratic president of candida, the one ever forgetful joe biden, he didn t say anything about last night s violence against police officers all across the country. yesterday, he came up with the genius idea and said he wants cops to shoot violent criminals that are coming at them with a knife, just shoot them in the leg. no police academy trains that. he also wants some kind of police commission. i have a message for the forgetful joe biden tonight. well, why didn t you, why didn t barack do this after the cambridge police incident? the ferguson incident? the baltimore incident? the train on martin incident why didn t you do it? take a look. we also have to fundamentally change the way in which police are trained. in the idea that instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there s an unarmed person coming at him with a knife or something to shoot him in the leg instead of the heart is a very different thing. looking ahead in the first 100 days of our presidency committed to created a national police oversight commission. i ve long believed we need real community policing. we need each and every police department in the country to understand the copperheads of review of their undertake a competence of review of hiring, training, the de-escalation. some have already done it and some are in the process of doing it. sean: this just in by the new york city pba and their leader, this is coming from the account of the entire pba, police officers have been brutally attacked and injured in our streets the past three days but we are still left wondering whether our elected leaders will support us when the sun comes up. joe biden, he is a representation of decades of old liberal failed leadership in cities and states all across this country. those are the states that tend to be in more trouble, almost the vast majority of states. governors run by democrats, mayors, by democratic mayors in city after city, new republican, mostly democrat. in richmond, virginia, for example, rioters there, they set fire to a small apartment building while a small child was inside that building. so-called protesters have proceeded to block fire trucks from arriving at the scene to save people, thank god that child was safe. this madness must stop, liberal mayors, governors, listen up. you cannot reason with those people that are out there burning your cities, looting these stores, herding and attacking police officers and innocent citizens. you can t pander to that criminal element. you can t appease them and new york, with their stupid laws, when you arrest them, they get released, guaranteed by law, they get a get out of jail free card within hours. so they get right back in the protest. he s got to enforce, you need to set perimeters, you need to use overwhelming nonlethal force. it s usually tear gas and pepper spray and arrest, as mayor giuliani has been telling us, every single one of these thugs breaking the law, putting people s lives in jeopardy and destroying property. if you refuse to lay down the hammer, you are putting in the president in a position of then invoking the insurrection act from 1807 because you re not doing your job. the president does he has that legal authority, it s called insurrection act. you can send the u.s. military to enforce local laws. he s offered the national guard, but they have to ask for it. that s the law too and according to a brand-new morning consult paul, an overwhelming majority of americans, they support the use of military forces to supplement local police that are being shot at, sometimes killed, and many injured. this chaos is completely out of control, unacceptable to most of the american people. their conscience has been shocked watching this night after night. one way or another, orders will be restored at some point. in the vacuum left by incompetent liberal mayors, governors, many americans are rightfully no exerting control over their own security. there s a guy in santa monica, california, he owns a liquor store. he had to protect his own business with an ar-15. by the way, it scared him away. there was an owner at a bakery in cleveland, scared off the looters there with a similar show of force with him and his sons. in philadelphia, gun shop owner shot and killed a looter who broke into his store. americans have the right and a duty to defend their lives in the property, especially when the cities are doing nothing to protect them. please liberal mayors and governors refused or unable to restore order. at this president has said he will act and he will bail them out and he will send in federal forces to do their job, just like he did on corona. if not, there will be an all-out war on the streets of all of our major cities, and make no mistake, there will be carnage, the likes of which we ve never seen before. we need to protect our country. country. law & order needs to be restored. this is not that complicated. it s hard, it s ugly. we wish it didn t happen. we also wish would happen to george floyd never happened. this is not honoring his memory. running is now, former nypd detective pat ronson, fox news contributor dan bongino, former secret service agent, nypd officer in his own right. pat, we begin with you tonight. all i see is a retreat and see a mayor under governor fighting each other and meanwhile, officers are attacked, civilians are attacked, stores are burned to the ground, looting is everywhere and nobody s doing their job. sean, let s be clear, this is a horror show of biblical proportions. but the fact is, security has deployed 5,000 officers across the united states, 1,000 in manhattan so we are actually getting inside baseball. we actually have thousands of sets of eyes that are feeding back intel to us from the field and i ll tell you something, what s a very nice surprise, we are learning, is that a lot of the folks other are actually doing the right thing, they are protecting the people, protecting civilians. there are actually honoring george floyd s memory, but i ve got to tell you, there s also an entire parallel universe that s going on, and i parallel universe or criminal wilding mobs. there on the hunt for 16 flat tvs in those two universes are out there together, and it s unbelievable, and we have inside baseball on it because we are getting reports from every corner of the united states. fact-based, not theory, not gossip, not uncorroborated. it s unbelievable. biblical in scope. sean: let me go to you, dan bongino. we are watching every night, you have been on the show, you ve been saying they must restore order. there are plans create a perimeter, you use tear gas, you use pepper spray, if you need it, rubber bullets. you disperse the crowd, i d have to i d rather not have to watch that ever happened but the alternative is what we are seeing unfolding because they re doing nothing. with that said there are cops trying their hardest and they re putting themselves in great jeopardy in doing these jobs. they need to be praised tonight because they re not getting the help and the support that they would otherwise have, the president backing these governors and mayors to accept the help he s offering. you know, sean, i saw something really terrible and sad today. i was sitting down here i m down here in florida away from new york, but let s just say a friend of mine for the sake of television is down here for some security reasons. he s down here, he s got some experience in the security space at the highest levels. he has since left the job and is basically for higher at times. phone ringing off the hook today, sean. i m not kidding. people in tears. pharmacy owners, terrified that they are going to come in and rate their store for the oxycontin. what oxycontin has to do with the memory of george floyd, i have no idea. sean, i m not kidding. grown men in tears on the phone, begging him to come up he was on the phone all day because he s not in new york, calling friends of friends and begging them to help people in manhattan, sean. manhattan. we are talking about midtown manhattan, begging this is like escape from new york and like an apocalypse up there. listen, if you don t have law & order, you don t have squat. you don t have a society. you have jack squat if you don t have law & order. if they are not a coherent set of rules where people can walk out the front doors without get there asses kicked, then you don t have a society. and de blasio is a disgrace. sean: don t use the lord s name in vain. he has to get off his ass and do something right now. he s going to lose the world s biggest city, sean. he s going to be a hero in modern times and everybody needs to get rightfully pissed off. i sincere apologies for the language, but i m sorry, it s enough of this crap. this guy has got to do something are going to lose the world s biggest city. this is not a joke, game time is over. it s time for serious people to step up and get this under control. sean: the fact, pat, that as we watch some cities night after night, and we have, we watch cities now we are looking at the side of our screen here and we see events unfolding in houston. it now spreads. there seems to be by the lack of action a sense that people can get away with this behavior. that now seems to be spreading to other criminal elements and now other cities joining in, if will, there criminal elements. all of this made worse by the fact that it was not nipped in the bud. 1000%, sean. we ve seen this time and time and time again. never mind de blasio, the cowardly lion in new york, but the reality is words of rhetoric, as we ve learned from a right, in terms of the distant bolden mint in the disempowerment of the nypd and conversely the empowerment in the emboldened mint the bad gu guys. they get it, they see there s no support. they recognize what the police are doing. if they that they could go in and punch an active-duty uniformed police lieutenant and knock hi his teeth out with bras knuckles. his eyebrow at the me of empowerment came up and then let the precinct on fire. madness of the highest level and it comes down to zero leadership. we have leaders who are masquerading as leaders but have zero leadership qualities. and they re not supporting their police and i tell you, we ve seen it time and time again and to dan s point, our phones are on fire from throughout the city, people begging, begging, begging, begging to protect them. it s unbelievable. it s absolutely astonishing. sean: must work, dan bongino. houston, by the way, george floyd s original hometown, he went to rebuild his life when he made this move and was trying to do so in minnesota. last word, dan. i m sorry, sean. i mean it. sean: i heard your apology. this is not like some tv b.s. this is my city, i grew up there. you grew up there too. so my friends, then on my liberal friends, they re not my conservative friends, they re friends of mine. i don t give a damn about the politics. they re losing their city and their livelihood because of bad leadership and it s generally painful from the bottom of my heart to watch this happen and lifetime. my apologies, but this has got to stop tonight. please, for the sake of the country, stop it tonight. sean: dan bongino, pat bronson dominic brosnan. the mysterious appearance, get this, pile of bricks, literally being stationed near the sites of where these protests and riots ultimately become. they are staging it. joining us now to report another disturbing story, he s in our west coast barrow tonight, chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher. so they are literally staging weapons that they re going to use that evening to throw the bricks of the cops, trace, is that how we interpret that? that s what it looks like. that s the belief. you have these piles of bricks and rocks showing up near the various protests sites. fayetteville, north carolina, kansas city, dallas, none of them are in your construction areas, leading many to assume the bricks were planted by outside agitators pacifically to stir up trouble. in fact, the new york police department says has evidence that anarchist groups were pushing the protests towards violence and vandalism. federal law enforcement officials say the violence points to far left groups like nt five. others say far right groups might also be involved. many of the looters don t need to be supplied with bricks and rocks because they show up with their own tools in hand, well prepared to destroy property. police in minneapolis also found caches of stolen vehicles and incendiary devices in areas where numerous fires had broken out and in baltimore, there s evidence of double danger. police have been sweeping the downtown area after, get this, finding both bricks and bottles with potential accelerants already inside them. but instead of being left out an open pass, these potential weapons are kind of being hidden in small areas, though it s unclear if they are associated with the protests or groups on either side of the spectrum. sean. sean: trace gallagher, thank you for that report, that is really scary and when we see that, maybe we should remove them. maybe if we had more troops on the ground if these cities would ask the president for the troops he s offering they would have more help and the ability to stop that. and cities from new york to los angeles, democratic-run cities, they are descending into chaos. why is this happening? to this level. why did the so-called leaders have zero control of their cities? been trying to educate people every single night on the show because he dealt with it when he was mayor of new york, took the murder rate from over 2002 down to 300 in new york city. he s dealt with similar situations, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is with us. you ve been telling these people how to do their job. it s not like you don t have experience. you have had to deal with this pretty much the whole time you were a mayor and you did it successfully. you would think that would listen, and can you please explain why there now as de blasio and cuomo fight amongst themselves and they don t ask for the national guard that it is their job to ask for, that the president then might have to invoke an 1807 law to bypass them and usurp the power because they are not doing their job. the de blasio-cuomo problem is a special problem. they hate each other. and frankly, de blasio is completely incompetent. and the governor really in good conscience should replace him. because he is the sole reason why the new york city police department isn t acting and it really wasn t fair of the government to attack the police department. he should have attacked de blasio. he knows what i know. so i will tell you this, sean, this is absolutely true. the blase over the last three or four or five nights calls individual police chiefs and tells them not to enforce the law. he tells them not to make arrests. he goes around the police commissioner and does that. it s outrageous. sean: i want to ask you this. you don t want people stealing and not interrupt them unless somebody is holding them back. the person holding them back is mayor de blasio. i know that, cuomo knows that. sean: governor, cuomo has the authority she s the governor of the state. we have cops a buffalo york too. he has the authority to ask the president. not just enforcing the law. he is interfering in the enforcement of the law. in the governor should remove him. in this city, this should never happen in the city. we have a 35,000 person police department. i had ten times where they attempted to do this to me and they never got beyond first base. i had to arrest 700 people once with chief esposito. we did it. they ve only arrested a measly 200 people last night and i rode up and down madison avenue today and i went all the way down to union square and my city it s disgraceful. the man should hang his head in shame. sean: the mayor the governor he s a disgrace of a mayor. democratic mayor throughout the country aren t much better. this is happening in progressive liberal democratic cities because they are very friendly to criminals. they let them out of jail. they let them out of jail on ridiculous bail laws. if they let them out of jail the minute they have coronavirus, they let them all out of jail and they stop raping people like they did in new york. minneapolis let them take the police precinct to antifa at all the national groups like to come in and push these cops around because their political leaders will not support them. the cops are being victimized. it s the political leadership, the left s leadership that is allowing this to happen in 30 or 40 american cities they were all democratic. sean: the governor mr. mayor, the governor has the authority to call the guard himself. this is also happening in other parts of the state. he hasn t. at this governor, you seem to be giving him a pass, he s the one that signed the bill that mandates that criminals have no bail at all so they get instantly released and can go right back to where they were in the middle of the anarchy because of his law, why doesn t he call the guard? sitting there in albany or wherever he is, he can remove de blasio and he could order the police commissioner of new york to enforce the law. and this will end in 24 hours. sean: what about the national guard? the new york city police department is bigger, stronger, better, and knows what it s doing more than the national guard. the national guard is trained to defend us in war. the new york city police department has kept us out of riots for 20 years, 24 years. under me and bloomberg. they just need a mayor. sean: i ve got to run. stop interfering with them. they re the best law organization in the united states. sean: i agree. twice as big as the fbi, twice as skilled as the fbi. i rely on them to do my sean: i will add one thing. i think he should call in the guard and number two, he needs to suspend immediately the nobel law that he signed action. mr. mayor, thank you for being with us. the president and the justice department move ahead on bold actions to keep our city safe amid massive failures of these liberal mayors and governors. while, the mob and the media, they are actually opposing the president s plan to restore law and order. just listen to fix new cnn don lemon claiming we re headed towards a dictatorship. no, we are in the middle of anarchy. take a look. for this very moment that just happened in front of our eyes, why were we pretending otherwise? open your eyes, america. open your eyes. we are teetering on a dictatorship. sean: how can fake new cnn fee that clueless? but they are. the president is operating completely within the law. he s trying to help cities restore order when things have gotten under control because leaders don t need. for example, just take a look at some cities that we now have, like democratic illinois governor. he is now falsely claiming the president can t send in troops unless he asks. they re supposed to ask, but it looks like the governor needs to reread the law because under the insurrection act, if you force the president s hand to implement this, which the president is confirmed he now has to consider invoking, the commander in chief, mr. illinois governor, he would have the power and broad discretion to deploy federal troops for domestic law enforcement purposes and to quell rioting. he also has the authority to enforce federal and state laws and parked on this insurrection. here now with more reaction, fox news correspondent at large, geraldo rivera along with larry elders, civil rights attorney leo terrel. we ll begin with you, geraldo. you d been in the midst of this many, many times in your career. have you ever seen a lack of action across the board like we are now witnessing and now it is spreading because people in other cities see, they re not going to stop us, so they re getting involved too? i tell you one thing i ve never seen it in new york. it s a wonderful police department, as largest two army divisions. you know, it s almost it s so bitterly ironic that we would even consider the lysing the national guard when you have a police force that is by far the largest in the country, the best equipped, a wonderful reputation. they know the city like the palm of their hands. but they were sitting on those hands and you know, i take, you know, the officers at their word, literally, that the reason they were sitting on their hands is because of the mayor of new york, de blasio has just dropped the ball. it is appalling. you know, just a minute. i was watching a protest outside the white house and i flashback to may 1st, 2011, and another demonstration outside the white house. it was the night the president announced that we killed osama bin laden and everybody was together and everybody was united and everybody was american and all races and ages and high-fiving and hugging. you know, i long for that kind of harmony. i long for that kind of patriotism. i long for that kind of unity and i lament this anarchy. i said at the first night this happened on your show, george floyd is a forgotten man. his reputation is defaced. you know, his name is barely mentioned. you see these scenes, these horrible scenes, the anarchy, the rioting, the looting, life being turned upside down. it s horrible. it s so hurtful, sean. sean: leo. geraldo and i come in fairness, we don t agree on a lot of issues but we get along fine. you are as liberal democrat over the years as i have been a conservative. you see what s happening in all of these major cities. these are for the most part there are exceptions, liberal governors, liberal mayors, they re not protecting the people in their city. they re not protecting stores in in their city, the businesses that many of which will never be coming back and we ve seen that happen in that movie before also. you know, sean, you and i, as you said, we don t agree on a lot of things but we are lockstep on this. and i don t know, we have the most incompetent mayor on the east coast, de blasio, the most incompetent mayor on the west coast, garcetti. they don t get it. they represent cities were people of color and believe it or not, we want law & order. you know why they won t bring in the national guard, what they won t bring in actual health? because they don t want to acknowledge that president trump is right. he is absolutely right. he s been offering help for the last week and they don t want to give him credit. and i ve got news for de blasio and garcetti. people of color want law & order. we wanted. and joe biden, if you think you re going to get democratic blacks to vote, you better other words law & order, because we wanted and we are not getting it in los angeles. sean: shoot him in the leg he said, larry. summit comes at you with a knife, just shoot him in the leg and not a word about all the officers shot, killed, injured in the process, even last night. not a word today. it s unreal. the number one responsibly of government is to protect people and property and that is not happening. what is so maddening about all of this, and we touched on this the other night, the premise is false. it is not true that the police are out there mowing down black people. according to the cdc in the last 45 years, killing of black fur left by the police have declined 75%. last year there were nine unarmed black people killed. 19 unarmed white people. name the unarmed white people that were killed. you can t because the media gives to the impression that this is something that happens all the time. obama says this ought not be normal. mr. former president, it s not normal, it is rare. cops rarely kill anybody let alone an unarmed black person. and the idea that this happens all the time is why some of these young people are out in the streets and it is simply false. isn t that good news? it s not true! sean: lettuce look at this. this cops that are getting run over, a situation involving a massachusetts night before our very eyes, i can t get a full read on it. there s some confrontation emerging, i m not sure, is that a police car? but there is confrontation with a vehicle and an individual and the person you saw speeding off. now we see a car turning into the sidewalk. it looks like the police are there no, those are brake lights. it s hard to ascertain, little bit dark. they are aware? this is in brockton, massachusetts. brockton, massachusetts. geraldo, i go back to you. this is the problem, the night goes on. some of the people on the streets, they ve been drinking. some have done drugs. a lot of the worst looting and the worst violence happens as the night goes on in these cities. can i address the governor of illinois, sean, it is preposterous notion that the president does not have the authority to impose the national guard if he cares to? i ask everyone to flashback to little rock, arkansas, 1957. the governor of arkansas, the supreme court had ordered the desegregation of the public schools. the governor used the national guard of arkansas to keep the black children out of the schools. president eisenhower from a world war ii hero, general eisenhower, supreme allied commander, president eisenhower nationalized the arkansas national guard, made them federal, federalized the national guard. he had absolute authority to do that. once they were federalized, once they were in the chain of command at the defense department, the president had absolute authority in the governor was powerless, the integration, the integration of arkansas public schools and proceeded peacefully. there s no doubt that president trump, should he take that step, has the authority to nationalize or to impose the national guard to nationalize the state national guard appointments and make them federal. there s no doubt the president can do that. mma just comment on because used it as well and they passed by 92 riots, they were brought in but let me make one other point. this is the problem. 97, 98% of his cops are good, they re putting their lives on the line, they protect us and we have to protect them. and what better way to protect these police officers is to bring in additional support. mr. president, forget these weak mayors. bringing federal assistance. sean: what is your take, larry? can i make one let me go to larry. larry. these are the very same people who just are angry because president from tonight s presidential authority to impose a 50 state coronavirus stay-at-home order and now they re mad at him for saying he s going to use is legitimate legal authority to impose law & order ? they can t figure out what they want. sean: last word, geraldo. i ve got news to break. geraldo, last word. i don t want to take i m asking the president of the united states to reach out to black leaders now, reach out to civil rights leaders of whatever color. now he is shown that he s a tough guy. now be a healer also. i think that s appropriate. a friend of ours. sean: my sources told me he s been reaching out all throughout all of this and encouraging people to help, leaders in any community, whoever you are, help. your voices are desperately needed. all right, we have a lot more to get to. top trump administration official and they will tell us how the president is going to deal with the anarchist group antifa as we continue to monitor, sadly protests all across the country. we will update you, more straight ahead. so as you head back out on the road, we ll be doing what we do best. providing some calm amidst the chaos. with virtual, real-time 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origins go back to the middle of the 20th century, new report, foxnews.com explains that the first modern antiviolence occurred in portland in 2007. since then, antifa members, they have targeted citizen journalist, attacked conservatives, called for the killing of police officers they have unleashed violence all across the country. a 20-year-old linked to the violent group was charged with inciting violence in the city. also breaking tonight in illinois, a man accused of passing out explosives in minneapolis, george floyd protest, he has not been arrested. here to explain more on all of this is dhs official, ken cuccinelli is with us. thank you for being with us, you re watching all of this life. you see mysterious reluctance and resistance to do what police department have historically done, what mayor giuliani explained in great detail no, that is creating a perimeter, using nonlethal weapons like tear gas and pepper spray and they re not doing it. yeah, there is there is a complete gap between those parts of america where they re using forward-leaning public safety law enforcement tactics on the numbers of officers needed to do it in their achieving peace in their street and george floyd protesters can protest peacefully there. and then there s the other side of the gap where they are too timid to bring out the guard when things get violent or to offend the protesters by being aggressive in the police tactics and i don t mean abusive, i just mean aggressively maintaining peace, just like we did giuliani was about and in those cities, you re seeing the violence get worse. you re seeing the criminality get worse. you re seeing people come in from outside who want to take part in the net. their opportunistically violent and that s what has to stop the president has been very strong, as you know, sean, in advancing forward our assets at the department of oman security, we are the largest collection of law enforcement officers in america in the department and we have been supporting state and local officials around the country since this began and particularly here in washington where our own secret service and the federal protective services and we have all our colleagues there, we are out on the streets of the city i m sitting in come here in washington, hoping to keep the peace. and guess what? it s more peaceful because of it and the president has been very clear that that s the approach is going to take and if he has to go all the way up to using his legal authorities, as geraldo said, noted, and i know you guys don t always agree, but he noted the president has the legal authority to utilize that level of federal resources if it s needed. course, we want to avoid that by achieving peace for that s necessary. sean: explained to things to our audience and the limited time we have left in the segment. one is the insurrection act. two, one of the standard operating procedures in dealing with situations like this, because it s going to have to happen in every city. the insurrection act is a law that the president can declare an insurrection. it doesn t mean it has to be in the whole country, and then he can deploy military resources to help achieve peace wherever they interrupt if behavior is happening. cities that are out of control, for instance, what you and i have been talking about, and that s available and he s got military members deployed, forward deployed if that s needed. there on federal property and so forth. but the president is ready to do that if needed. so far we ve been succeeding with been doing better night by night with civilian police and with the national guard, and like i said, where those have been aggressively employed, peace has been much more broadly achieve. you had a second question after that, sean. sean: the usual tactics in other words, there s a playbook for dealing with the situation for law enforcement. we have 30 seconds. yes. this is 101 tactics. this is not rocket science. this is larger numbers properly equipped and trained and cohesively employed. and not giving remember baltimore. we re going to give the rioters some room to vent. that isn t what you do. the minute that they get violent, you push them away from the targets of their violence, which sometimes can be other people in the crowd. that achieves peace and you have to keep doing it with more resources and more resources until it s entirely quelled and peace is restored. that s what this president is about. sean: thank you. more breaking news right after this. good to be with you sean. so from all of us working early mornings on the farm, long days in the plant, or late nights stocking shelves doing all we can to get you the milk you need. we hope it makes your breakfast a little brighter. your snacks more nutritious. and reminds you when it comes to caring, there is no expiration date. milk. love what s real. sean: just breaking, by the way, the secretary of defense has now authorized the movement of an infantry battalion into washington, d.c., in that region. all told on 1600 troops will be moving into the area. our thoughts and prayers are with the families tonight, including george floyd s family. i pray for the country, all these cities, pray for life and my heart is troubled again and that means laura ingraham with her coverage will continue through out the evening. laura buried laura: thank you, we will keep monitoring and obviously things are on the edge across the country. and you had a fantastic show. thanks so much, sean, who will see you tomorrow night. i m laura ingraham, this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. last night the images was sought of an exit or they seemed like out of a charles bronson movie or something, smashing, grabbing, looting, assaults on law enforcement. you name it and bill de blasio s city had it. at mullins this morning tonight we are losing our city. ed will be hearing moments to deliver a message to new york leaders. and yeah, i put that. in an attempt to quell the violence, new york city his curfew was moved up to 8:00 p.m. ni