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it was badgering or poking at steve with text messages. >> matt seem to know whenever steve and liz talked on the phone. >> glad you got to talk to her today. and a few days later, good chat earlier. about a week before liz went missing matt texted steve, sorry to trouble you yet again, but i'm going to cut her off financially soon. if you do care, then please take action and support her. >> as much as he tried after he found out about stephen, it just didn't get better. >> so their lives were a mess again? >> but more so than it had ever been. there was no hiding the problems anymore, sweeping it under the carpet -- >> did you feel trapped? >> yes. >> remember the last time she was over at nathan's, when the in laws were coming and liz seemed desperate? nathan knew it wasn't just about the in laws. liz had told him that matt was
>> when he came back and was back for a while, you know? all of a sudden she had to integrate this new aspect into her life. that was jarring. >> it's pretty common these days. people coming back from deployments and trying to re-enter a life, it's hard for them, hard for the family. no one can quite figure out what to do. >> yes, especially since there was no past with liz and matt, there wasn't the foundation of getting to know and being with you -- >> they weren't friends? >> exactly. >> the more liz and matt got to know each other, the more they seem to be leagues apart said calandra when we first interviewed her back in 2020. >> i remember a very prevalent issue was that matt did not have a drivers license, so if something needed to be done, or someone needed to get somewhere including him to work, it was liz waking up early, taking him
all the insulation in the whole attic. making sure that every thing was looked under and through. >> and up in the attic, under the insulation, she founded, a military style folding knife. what was that moment like? >> for me, kind of thrilling because i felt like it definitely meant something, it was hidden in a fashion that was not like it fell out of your pocket or something. >> could it be that this was the murder weapon? the lab results were conclusive, liz's blood on the inner workings of the knife, and on the handle? a mix of dna from both liz and matt. detective collier worked three long years for this. what did you do first after that? >> well, i actually cried. you know, you work a case that long, and you're like, this is it.
force of life in her, said her friends. the kind of person you couldn't possibly forget. >> she loved to smile, and laugh more than anybody else i knew. people have an infectious laugh, she has an infectious smile. when you were in her graces, you felt like you were part of the highest rated tv show ever, the audience is watching you, everyone is laughing, everybody wanted to be in your company with her. >> i miss her terribly. every time something good happens to me and i want to call her -- the last thing that i want at the end of the day is for liz to come across dry and troubled when there were so many facets to her. she sparkled like a princess cut diamond. you could not take the shine out of her. you just had to know which
bad break for the investigation, because the badly drawn girl email, if it was real was just about the only remaining signed that liz might still be alive. one by one, the others had fizzled out. people who thought they saw her at the park it turned out had their dates mixed up. the money she transferred to her bank account just sat there unspent. the debit card activity that popped up after she disappeared? the detectives found out the actual purchases had been made beforehand. >> those things did happen but today happened before she went missing. so that was a huge disappointment. >> if liz was not alive detectives had to figure out who was responsible. one by one they interviewed nathan and then the early suspect marcus hodges, and
liz hadn't taken her car, it was parked in the garage. some trash and a parking receipt were inside. next to her car, the usual garage stuff, a big broken mirror and a stand-alone freezer like this one, which they opened. it was empty. did they search her room in the house that she shared with matt? >> yes, outside of it being a little messy there was nothing of note. >> except, said matt, one of their suitcases was missing. >> he felt like she might have left with her computer and her laptop and a phone, but he wasn't sure, but he couldn't find those items. >> seem cooperative though. >> yes. >> matt told the detectives he had found her private journals, and he turned those over. something else, it was a pretty big deal. he had discovered that liz had transferred all the money in their joint checking account, $1,072 to her individual
of rug outside the bathroom, pulled it back, and found a large stain. >> we ended up forensically examining it with luminol. >> it lit up to. meaning blood. lots of it. >> the bloodstain from that had to leak into the padding and then be able to go through the padding on the supplier, and the sub floor stain itself was at least a foot. and saturated. >> though not on the surface of the carpet, must have been cleaned with that carpet cleaner matt thought, maybe? the dna, no surprise matched liz. what did you think when you got those results? >> i thought here we go, you know. >> that's a big moment? who was that the case, as far as you could tell, okay, i can persuade the d.a. based on this? >> we hoped. you know? but we don't get to make all those decisions by ourself. >> when detectives presented their case to the d.a., they
missing. they said she appeared disoriented. was looking for her phone. and told them she had slept in the park the night before. and then days later another reported sighting, this one near the san diego airport. but after that, a month passed with no sign of liz. matt gave an interview to people magazine saying he was at the end of his rope. i'm running on fumes right now, i don't know where to look. >> liz had gone off before but those times it was just for a little bit, not like this. liz's dad came from virginia to help look for his daughter, and be with matt and the girls. he was interviewed by nbc station and pleaded with the public for help. >> i feel like she is in trouble. it can happen to you and when it does it gets very personal. and you get a strength like you never had before because that is my daughter. i'm gonna bring her home. >> i san diego detectives dove
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