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new polling tonight. significant gains it seems for trump. what exactly is changing? it is tighter, anderson. and we should not be surprised. remember the country we ve live in the last 20 years. it should not be surprising if this race gets tight into the end. a new poll shows hillary clinton up just three points. when you average out the most recent national polls we have hillary clinton with six points leading. down from eight or nine just a few days ago because the new polls coming out show a tighter race. some of the state polls get more interesting. and you say does donald trump have a chance as we have 12 more days essentially of campaigning? look at these numbers in florida. other polls have shown secretary clinton ahead in florida in recent days. a new poll trump up. does seem to indicate some trump momentum. in a state he absolutely has to win. and anderson when you look closer into this bloomberg poll, tells you a lot about the challenge for candidates heading into the final days of the
campaigning after tonight. if this issue is about the economy and about change in washington, look at this. donald trump has lopsided edges when voters are asked who s best on those issues. if he can focus on economy and change in washington that gives him standing. if this is about who has the temperament, the better role model, that is hillary clinton s wheel house. which is why you hear her repeatedly saying donald trump is unfit. new hampshire is showing trump momentum. but we ll keep an eye on that. and also in nevada. hillary clinton thought a week ago this state was moving her way and she was about to put it away. new poll out tonight shows a tie. 43% to 43%. if you look at nevada, look at florida, look at the tightening
national perspective. no question donald trump can claim some momentum. how much? we ll filter through that in the next few days. do the better numbers give trump a clear path to 270 electoral votes. clearer, yes. but still a steep climb. we re gonna have to look at zmef florida over the next couple of days. if the numbers are right. we have nevada leading blue. if donald trump can take that away. say i give it to donald trump for the sake of this map. if he s moving in dmnevada and n hold the state. say he gets nevada. but here is how it gets so hard for donald trump. say he has that momentum. he still has to be almost more than perfect in the final days. he has to win where he is tonight. north carolina. can t get to 270 without it.
he has to hold ohio. even if he does that. wins nevada, not easy. wins florida. not easy. wins north carolina, not easy. ohio not easy. let s give them to trump in this map. why is mike pence in utah tonight? because they still have a problem in the west. trump mest get that back. even if he does all that, and that is a perfect, perfect ten days ahead, he s still behind. even if they win the close races he has a ways to go. is it better for donald trump tonight? yes. is the hill still steep? absolutely. why should anyone believe the polls? if i m sitting at home and watching tonight. for the last couple days the democrats have been youing about how good things look. andcrowing
about how good things look. and how accurate are these things. don t believe any one poll. average them out and look for friend lines. what is happening is remember, the tightening should not surprise people. donald trump cratered after the access hollywood tape. in the days since a lot of republicans have come home. we live in a very evenly divided country. there are skepticism about the polls but these are professionals. don t believe one. average them out and strap in. we ve got 12 days left. donald trump campaigning in north carolina. back in the battleground state after a detour to washington where he attended a ribbon cutting just down pennsylvania avenue from the white house. that is where dana bash managed to pull him aside for a rare face-to-face interview. first i want to ask you about your event here. there is new another udio tape
right now. and florida and up to new hampshire. for you to ask me that question is actually very insulting because hillary clinton does one stop and then she goes home and sleeps. and yet you will ask me that question. i think it is a very rude question to be honest with you. and what i want to do i want to back my children. my children work very hard. ivanka in particular. and at the opening of the hotel i want to help my children. very important to me. we had a ribbon cutting which was quick and i stopped in d.c. but the real key to this is i want the american people to understand that this is under budget, ahead of schedule. and we need that for the united states. i have to say, you know, i ve been reporting on the fact that you are going to north carolina for a couple of stops straight from here. but my next question is there is a new poll in florida that has you up a couple of points. other swing states have you really in the hunt. given that are you prepared to write a check to help yourself get over the finish line? and if so, how big? and i m talk about advertising. let me just tell you that we have i ll have over a hundred
million dollars in the campaign. hillary clinton has nothing in the campaign. she s all special interest and donors and they give her the money and she will do whatever they tell her too do. but i will have over a hundred million dollars in the campaign and i m prepared to go much more than that. now, here is the question. new polls are coming out. we re leading florida. doing great in pennsylvania. north carolina. really well in new hampshire. ohio as you know and iowa are doing fantastically well. i m telling you, cnn doesn t say it, but i think we re going to win. to do that you have a pretty big bank account. you could and time is running out. the clock is ticking. will you write a check. i ve already done it. already written a number of them. specifically to get up on the air to combat the ads you say hillary clinton is running against you. in florida she was 50 twun against me. you have the means to combat that. 50/1 and i m leading.
in the old days you would spend less money and have a victory, that would be a good thick. today they want you to spend money. i ll have over a hundred million. i m willing to spend much more than that in i have to. we re seeing in florida, other places, the lines going into voting booths, going into the voting areas are unbelievable. in florida yesterday we passed four of them. the lines were three and four blocks long. those are not her voters because her voters have no enthusiasm what over. could you be specific how much are you willing to put already over a hundred million in. i m willing to informs more than that. like how much? don t, let s go for your next question dana. my les question because i m getting the hook over here. in this speech here you talked about the fact that this is the second best piece of real estate on pennsylvania avenue. in 14 days are you hoping you are going to be spending after that more time here or down the
street? i just hope i built a great company. truly a great company with some of the great assets in the world and not only our country but others. and i predicted the brexit. and you were one of the people who asked about brexit. and i think the result is going to be the same if not more so. we are going to have i think a tremendous victory. people don t want four more years of obama. they don t want hillary with all of the corruption and all of the problems. and you see all of these wikileaks coming out and they are a disaster. and when you see john podesta who is terrible i think the way he speaks about her. but she has bad instincts. i think it is terrible. but so many other things. even worse than that about their honesty and dishonesty. i really think we re going to have a tremendous victory. and if i didn t think that i wouldn t say it. i would say well we re going to be fighting hard. i believe we are winning.
i actually think we are winning. i don t think it is a question of we re going to try and win. you start look at the polls what s happening and more importantly start looking at all the people going to vote and sending in ballots. we re way ahead in virtually every state, every area i think we re going to have a great victory. thank you mr. trump. dana joins us now. so why were you pressing him on the significance of he ll write a check. because i ve heard more and more frustration voiced from republican whose want donald trump to win who think he can win in that he s fighting with one hand bind his back. and he even admitted to me he s being outspent on television ad, especially in places like florida. the complaint among republicans is he has the means to go one his own ads hitting her to have a fair fight. in fact i was told earlier this
month the rnc chairman reince priebus went to him and said please mr. trump, you have got to get out that bank account and add to yes he s already given many millions of dollars, tens of millions but even to give more because it is such a non traditional campaign he s running. he s sort of in never, never land when it comes to the fundraising mechanism certainly way different than any modern day republican or any presidential candidate has had. so that is the reason. it is because people think it is doable, it is gettable. but he needs to be fighting a fair fight. and for somebody like donald trump that means put your own money in. dana bash. thanks. let s bring in the panel.
how much of a difference do you think it could make? with 12 days left misi talked about a $100 million figure. he s currently right now according to reports at about 60 million. that would mean another $40 million in the next 12 days. that is a lot of monies, i don t think is going to happen. dana s reporting is correct. fw . there is a lot of frustration among republicans. he talks about his bank account. he has not put in his own money. i don t think it can make a difference now. it could have been made a difference on television ads many weeks ago, or working on a ground game and improving it or adding additional staff. he has never liked putting in his own money. he did put in a
so what do you make of the polls? why do you think they are getting tightener florida? i think john is right. among other things, florida is a tricky state. president obama barely won in 2012. but he s right fwheer a partisan country. people are looking for that reason to vote either republican or democrat. and you also saw one thing that hasn t been talked about much. clinton started making it more of a partisan race. she now moved to helping down ballot democrats. by definition doing that it is going to make the race more parton and less about wooing independe independents. does that worry you she s focusing on down ballot. she wants to be able to govern. overconfident? no.
if you look at the polls average. she s up by six. which you got to remember i think the president won with less than 5 percentage points. for a divided polarizing country six is not a bad number and i want to talk about florida for a second. i think that poll, the blooper poll is an outlier. and bloomburg is historically known for bad sampling. the i m sorry, the party id for republicans is plus four. which can t be the case because florida demographics is changing. african americans in that poll is at 12. and it should be between 14 and 15. so i think that poll is questionable. arguably whatever happens in florida there is still a tough path to 270 for donald trump. do you think the democrats are getting overconfident? yes i do. i think they have two problems. one they have the enthusiasm gap problem. and two they are got this overconfidence problem and the two together can be fatal for them. what donald trump has going for
him are the issues. and he is getting at these issues every day. and through the gift of the gods he s getting this gift about obamacare and i ll just give you an example from pennsylvania. the online version of the harris burg patriot news featured a story that obamacare insurance rates were going up 33% and then went through chapter and verse what that meant in the local area. sinking? absolutely. just ahead newt gingrich tangling with megyn kelly and trump s praise for gingrich afterwards could be saying to women voters different things. defer their dreams to another day and another decade which is really what they mean. everywhere i go . if you re searching other travel sites to find a better price.
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some of the polling turning favorable late today for donald trump. he s in north carolina wrapping it up. back with our panel. it is always fascinating because i remember i don t know. i feel like it was eight weeks ago it was all positive polls for trump and had momentum and now it switched and it s getting close. should the polls be believed? i think john is right. you look at the totality of all the polls to be fair. but i do think it is questionable for . what we saw over the last two or three days, seven or eight events down in florida. do you think him spending time big events in florida is having the impact? some of that. when he gets to a local area he drives that local media coverage
which he does very well. large rallies and consumes the local media market. it is really good for him. if you look at places he s been recently they have been the traditional counties where you have to lock up your vote early. what we see right there the recent polls is a one point race which means anything can happen. he was getting flak from some for going to the hotel opening. i don t quite understand that. a, he s able to travel to a lot of different places and also to his point you saw him repeat multiple times in that interview, under budget, on time under budget. it does sort of reinforce his brand as a not a career politici politician, as a businessman who can do that for the country like he did his hotel, no? in dana s interview actually what i got interest that is again and his problem is going to be in the next 13 undisciplined he is.
he starts talking about hillary taking a net and it does not give the country viewers a clans to see talk about the issues they care about. which is number one. two, just in terms of florida, remember and this is on the cnn website. democrats are leading dramatically in the early voting. so 7.3 million americans have already voted. and aside from iowa democrats are doing far better than in 2012, including florida where they as cnn points out deeply cut into the advantage in early ballots cast by republicans so far. and largely in the ground game, in close states in the close election the ground game the democrats have is good for at least two or three points in those races. hillary clinton has 80-plus offices in florida. donald trump has almost nothing. the democrats have the labor movement in the industrial states in those close states. in nevada a lot of union, the casino workers, hotel workers
pulling out people. and part of that is because of donald trump s continuing feud with the republican establishment. he never put together the ground game and i think that is going to make the difference in the election. do you buy that scotty is this. it depends on what ground game you are talking about. this shows the difference from tw two campaigns from day one you have hillary clinton with a great ground game built on politician. donald trump has not built it on politicians. he built it on the people. that is not a ground game. in florida. not based on politicians. based on thousands of volunteers that knock. is a scam. and have you ever walked into the amazon and had it. you don t need brick and mortar anymore. the notion you have to have stores and offices cell phones and phones you can call from home. you can do this over the internet. you don t need to bring all these people in to have eighty offices around the state. it is ridiculous.
as someone who worked on the 2008 and 2012 campaigns that is insulting. and face to face and having a face to face program and knocking on doors and talking to voters actually works. it s not working. let her it s not working. trump is leading in florida. that is one outlier. the last several polls actually showed hillary clinton leading by three or four points in florida. and it is a battleground state. it is going to be close. and the reason the democrats have the lead in the early voting is because of the ground game. they go out and knock on doors and sign people up. okay. we got other night. why am i seeing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of trump signs all over and one hillary sign. that is part of the ground game. where is it? how do you explain in the
early voting, which is i m going grant you something. let s say the polls are totally wrong. how you explain that the early voting is overly democratic. why do you assume they are all voting for hillary? no these are democratic oh for the democrats. come on. now year we re dealing at the ufo kind of level. democratic voters who are coming out to vote in early voting are voting for hillary clinton. you know this? all right. you really want to debate that? we ll debate that during the commercial. lot more to talk about on this hour. just ahead details from the latest trove of stolen campaign e-mails and including what her inner circle thought about her use of the private e-mail servers. stunning stuff ahead.
and intriguing including ambiguous references to her head. jim sciutto has more. newly released e-mails show the distress in hillary clinton s inner circle the moment the news broke on march 17th. one of her longest serving advisors writing, quote, there is no good answer. one word per line. seemingly for emphasis. in other stolen e-mails on march 2nd and 3rd. a co-chair expressing blistering criticism of clinton s top aides handling of the private server issue. why didn t they get this stuff out like 18 months ago? so crazy. and continuing from a follow-up e-mail, i guess i know the answer. they wanted to get away with it. he specifically referenced cheryl mills. this is a cheryl special. know you love her but this stuff
is like her achilles heel or kryptonite. she just can t say no to this expletive. the clinton campaign has not commented on specific e-mails saying they are stolen and they can t verify their authenticity. the u.s. intelligence community blames the russian state for the hacks which has solely targeted the democratic party. several hacked e-mails make reference to clinton s head. some in the right wing media are drawing connection to her recover. in one september 26th 2015 john podesta writes to communication director how bad is her head? palmieri writes back. don t know. huma left about an hour ago. i just pinged again to ask about prep. haven t heard back. briefed my cnn a clinton campaign official did respond to this e-mail saying they are clearly about her frame of mind or her mood.
and jim sciutto joins us. when the clinton campaign was e-mailing about clinton s head what was going on at the time? in that specific instance, in the same 24 hour people a ap story broke talking about how the obama administration discovered the clinton campaign had not released a whole trove of e-mails after the clinton campaign said they had. reasonable to make a connection between that story and a campaign advisor asking where her head was on it. and another i can t believe we re talk about this anderson but again mentioning her head in regards to whether she had notes on a particular policy issue. whether to follow those notes or just go off script in effect. it is difficult to make a substantive connection between the mention of her head and any specific reference to what her state of mind was or her health was looking at these e-mails frankly doesn t seem to be a lot of there, there. that s a real conversation.
jim sciutto. thank you very much. joining us now our panel. galore yarks the words written by. i guess i know the answer they wanted to get away with it. i does reinforce the narrative. hillary clinton knew her e-mail server was wrong and when she got caught her aides, she tried to conceal it. her aides wanted to conceal it. it sure does. and it is a bad story line for her. it continues. and it hasn t seemed to move the needle at all anderson. and maybe it is because it is a little bit at this point, at this late in the game like saying oh there is gambling gong on here in casablanca. sure. of course hillary clinton plays by a different set of rules and the people who aren t going vote for her because of the e-mail have already decided to dismiss it. so the question is whether more of these revolutions will move
the needle in the future? i kind of tend to doubt it. these issues with hillary clinton have been around for a while. donald trump has trouble sticking to the script which it is talking about e-mails or obamacare premium increases. and so with a different candidate opposing her, it might ma have made more of a difference but right now i think it is a little late in the game and this stuff is already baked in. one of the other interesting things here there seems there was one faction within the clinton inner circle that wanted more transparency. wanted her to apologize right away and another faction that wanted her to weather the storm i guess. the people who have been around clinton for many years, including cheryl mills, they have never wanted any kind of transparency when there s been trouble around hillary clinton or bill clinton. whereas those charged with
winning an election like john podesta. they wanted transparency. remember her favorability ratings at this time coming out of being secretary of state were very high. they wanted her to appear transparent and do away with this old narrative of secrecy and hiding things and covering things up. so they were very frustrated by this. understandably. and gloria, you also wrote in the e-mails that hillary clinton has terrible instincts. how much does that hurt? the thing about nera candenise e-mails. the funny thing they all happy to be true. she doesn t have the greatest political instincts. she s a policy person, less than a political person. i think if it were up to hillary, there would be more
secrecy than maybe someone like john podesta would like. she s been in public life for 30 years. we ve all watched her. and nera is kind of i think there stating the obvious. and you see this infighting between the folks who have been with hillary clinton for a very long time who want to protect her as carl says. and those who are kind of trying to get her elected president this time. and i think if she is elected, i would presume that this kind of stuff could continue. carl, the e-mail from gjen palmieri, she asked about hillary clinton saying how bad is her head? we were talk about that with jim sciutto. are people just going to see what they want in that comment? some might think it is a reference to her health. others her frame of mind. i think on that particular one, the at right movement, the bright barts, the drudges of the world will see it as they want but i don t think it will have
much traction as jim says. what s so fascinating about the e-mails is they show us who hillary clinton is in a kind of nuanced way. they are an accurate picture of her. both good and bad. the e-mails released about the speeches for goldman sachs show her how she likes policy. how she wants to have things both ways. there are a lot of nuance in these attentithings. it is a pretty good picture of her and at the same time it is not a flattering picture. and if donald trump is going win, perhaps the combination of what s in the e-mails in some ways the unflattering stuff along with the excitement generated by new poll numbers and other events then he might have a slight way to win. but is an advantageous thing for
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trump us surrogate newt gingrich went head to head last night with megyn kelly. but the fireworks really flew when she asked about the women who have accused trump of sexual assault. take a look. do you want to why donald trump has had a tough time he s not a sexual predator. he s not a sexual predator. sick and tired of people like you using language that is inflammatory that is not true. excuse me mr. speaker. you have no idea whether it is true or not. neither do you. right. and i m not taking a position on it like you. very unfair for you do that megan. i think that is exactly the bias people are upset by.
i think your offensiveness may speak volumes. you are fascinated with sex and you don t care about public policy. that is what i get out of watching you tonight. do you know what mr. speaker, i m not fascinated by sex. but i am fascinated by the protection of women and understanding what we re getting in the oval office. and i think the american voters would like to know. therefore we re going send bill clinton back to the east wing because after all you are worried about sexual predator. do you want to comment on whether the clinton ticket has a relationship to a sexual predator. we have covered that story as well sir. i want to hear your words. bill clinton sexual predator, i dare you. say it. excuse me sir excuse me. 850,000 on a penalty. excuse me sir. we on the kelly file have covered the clinton matter as well. we re going to have to leave it at that. and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working on them mr. speaker. and you too.
at the opening of his hotel today trump congratulated gingrich on that interview. by the way, congratulations newt on last night. that was an amazing interview. that was an amazing [ applause ] we don t play games, newt. right? we don t play games. joining me now our panel. amanda, you actually wrote about newt gingrich in that washington post. what do you make of that exchange last night? another example confirm of this unique ability i think trump has in bringing out the worst in people. in that clip you saw newt act condescending. shake his finger. and megyn kelly is app particular figure of interest in this political cycle because she
of course was the one who was the first to really publicly question donald trump about the sexist statements that he s made to women. and they have been hung up about that. they have targeted her again and again, labeled donald trump used his massive platform to label her a bimbo. and then newt gingrich saying she s obsessed with something she s clearly not. and she s questioning her ability to cover a story. they have been trying to take her down as a journalist many, many times and it just played out spectacularly last night on fox news. for newt gingrich to accuse megyn kelly as being fascinated by sex. third marriage. cheated on his first two marriages and was having an affair when he was accusing bill clinton. i think what you saw was two people passionate about the positions they have had. we re 13 days out from the election and that is a conversation happening at dinner
tables across the united states right now. for a male like him with his record on republiclationships, accuse megyn kelly as being fascinated by sex seems a particularly ironic. his main point is to point out journalists. i didn t hear the he did. look at the stories that actually do matter. like her pay for play speeches that are happening. and that was the point of that entire interaction. and it was very uncomfortable to watch. i ll be the first to admit it. those two are probably very good friends up until last night. they will be friends again but this is a divide that is happening and we at least have to respect it that at least the conversation is happening and hopefully it won t be too damaging. i think the word you were looking for was hypocritical. remember newt gingrich s wife when he was running in 2012 told all of u the media. said it to the camera.
newt gingrich offered her the choice between an open marriage or a divorce. so maybest, just maybe if all of that baggage is on your shoulders, maybe you shouldn t be the surrogate out there accusing the woman who was sexual assault and sex are two things. one is unwanted. one is wanted. so maybe they need to understand that to begin with. but . and if you are going to get a surrogate to speak on it and wag his finger on national tv, maybe just maybe go find the pope or somebody that s been on his knees in a chapel for the last 20 years. not newt gingrich. was it a mistake for donald trump to at his event today single out newt gingrich talk about the interview last night? not in the slightest. because i think we re really misreading this conversation. and i quite frankly think this entire panel discussion is emblematic of america s frustration about what s going
on now. we re having conversations about newt gingrich s sexual frustrations and the donald trump s and feels like the . when newt gingrich said you are obsessed with sex. meaning the media. you were obsessed with sex. he was talk about public policy. all you have been covering lately is sex stuff. as an example of what the mainstream media is doing. there is a difference between sex and sexual assault as anna pointed out. and what megyn kelly is talking about is sexual assault. what everybody focus group has told us is they don t want to hear what we re talk about right now. they want to hear about public policy. what every rating point tells you is that is not true. when that tape of donald trump is released it was probably it was the most downloaded most clicked on famous one of the biggest stories of this campaign so far which tells me that it is not a media fascination. it is a public fascination. i m not saying that shouldn t
have been covered. it absolutely should have been covered but the degree of coverage when media research says we cover that 7/1 over wikileaks, which actually effects public policy. just about media bias then? i think if there is one issue that donald trump has campaigned on deliberately relentlessly is media bias and what played out in that interview is really interesting. and it gets to donald trump cheerleading, high fiving newt gingrich publicly for taking it to megyn kelly. this is fox news. this is a friendly place for newt gingrich for many years. he s a contributor there. they have respected him as an intellectual heavyweight to talk about republican policies. this is a friendly interview and now they are to the point where they are so in the barricade with themselves that they think megyn kelly is out to get them? and you can see why this is hurting his campaign. ivanka trump who s supposed to be appealing to all the independent progressive minded women, she s so boxed in.
when she she can t even take questions before an audience because they are so so in the hole. they talked up this thing about media bias so much that they themselves can not talk to anyone else. you have to ask yourself, if if trump says what people want to hear about is policy and agenda, why did he bring it up today some why did he high five newt gingrich for that ridiculous exchange with a woman with whom trump talk about her menstrual cycle 15 months ago? why are you picking a fight with this conservative darling? if you are calling fox media biased i want to get response to that. we ll continue conversation in a minute. when you have a cold, you just want powerful relief.
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the segment was about sex and not exactly what american female voters wanted to focus on. american females want to hear about immigration. economy. supreme court justices. you don t think character is a major issue for many voters? for american women, they re going to decide with their heads. they re going to talk about the issues that affect their pocket books. the once that affect their families. more on the wallets and their jobs. why is he not doing well among women in. well, because republicans have had a problem with women. the fact that we have this divide. maybe it was we were under romney. but the divide that we have right now, the truth is, 74% of republicans are saying that they re going to support donald trump right now. that s a good number. that includes many females. the females are saying i m not looking to him to teach my children values. to be an example of a role model about how they should treat others. my husband, the men in the
family, they are twoungs set the example. i m looking for a leader of my country that will revive the economy and protect our families. that s why they re voting for donald trump. it is amazing today that people no longer expect the president of the united states to set an example for the country. and i m not blaming this on donald trump. you can make the same argument about bill clinton when he was in the white house. when i was a kid, you grew up i don t agree with that. i think that in today s culture, certainly, leaders much more accessible than they once were. we see them in situations we never did because of snap chat and social media and all that. but i think we absolutely look at the leader of the free world, the president of the united states, at the first lady, as someone that permeates through culture into all of our lives and does set an example for children, for adults, does set an example for foreign lead erkss does set an example for all americans. the duty, the responsibility,
the weight of representing all smerns something that means and requires character. not at this point. whn we re $19 trillion in debt. we ve seen our military is in a horrible state. we re seeing people without jobs, health care costs going up. i never told my child, yes, professionally it is great to be president. looking up to president obama. but for some things he s done, i do not see him as a hero. my problem is if i think the president is the lowest form of life, if i think he is an orange amoeba, i cannot get on discuss policy. i m stuck down there. at the fact that he is not fit to be president. but it is unfortunate the way that donald trump has coarsened the political culture in such a way. and i do hope it is temporary. i hope the conversations that trump and the male leaders of the country like newt gingrich and others have started by supporting him and being condescending to women at the same time has opened up a new opportunity for conservative women. i hear conservative women
talking about, i ve never heard conservative feminism before. maybe we need a new way. maybe we need to call the men to be chivalrous and support us in the workplace and make a new modern effort. that s not outdated. clearly there s some work to be done and i think it is somewhat generational for the republican men. you see people like donald trump act like. this i never saw my bosses like ted cruz, i never saw marco rubio like this. we have to learn the lesson that s we see playing out. what is so interesting to me here, there has been such an effort to caricature donald trump as a male chauvinist xyz. the media has done a great job trying to make him that. nibble stats and numbers. i look at the fox poll that just came out. guess what? donald trump is only trailing among women by 8 points among registered voters. that is better than romney ropp, better than john mccain, that is tied with george w. bush. so this whole notion that we re
marred with women forever. does not bear that out. this panel is not representative of the way republican voters think. as scotty pointed out, the same number of republicans are consolidating around trump as democrats around clinton. there is not an exodus of women. there is in washington, d.c. but the average republican woman is not represented by this. just another extension of the point largely made by the trump campaign about media bias. they have picked a fight with the media. they have assumed the worst about the so-called main stream media. their reaction has been to expect people like megyn kelly to be biased for them. that s what breitbart is all about. for them to have an agenda for them. that s not the appropriate reaction if you want to bring unity in the country. it comes from a place of vengeance. it is very angry. let do you know what the approval of the main stream media is

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worldwide. in his first speech abroad he urged them to purge their communities of, quote, the foot soldiers of evil. the man who campaigned heavily on a proposed muslim ban today asked islamic leaders in the middle east to unite with america in the global fight against terrorism. let s get out to nick robinson in the saudi capital where president trump gave that speech today. nick. reporter: ana, part of president trump s message seemed to be to alleviate the concerns of those in the room that under president obama they lost the support of the united states. he said our friends never need to question our support, a reassuring message for those in the room, but he had a tone that was designed, if you will, draw the audience in. he said, i m not here to tell you how to live your lives, that we have common values, and through those common values we can find common security. he also said that what s
troubling the region is not an issue of a contest between faith. this is not a battle between different faiths, different sects or different civilizations. this is a battle between barbaric criminals who seek to obliterate human ligfe and decet people, all in the name of religion. people that want to protect life and want to protect their religion. this is a battle between good and evil. reporter: but he also made the point that it was up to the countries in the middle east to take this into their own hands, to take the issues into their own hands, not to leave it to the united states to drive the terrorists from their places of worship, he said, to drive the terrorists from their lands. he said they needed to be honest in how they faced up to this issue of islamic extremism. of course, there is still
much work to be done. that means honestly confronting the crisis of islamic extremism and the islamists and islamic terror of all kinds. we must stop what they re doing to inspire because they do nothing to inspire but kill. reporter: there was no sign of dissent among the 55 presidents, prime ministers, amirs and kings gathered in the room. but at a late forum, the emirate foreign minister was critical of european nations saying they couldn t point the finger at the middle east and say the extremist problem is in the middle east, that they in europe have a problem that they need to deal with that problem, that if they don t deal with it, then there will be more extremists coming from europe than the middle east. very strong language. not saying that the united states was at fault, but pointing the finger at europe. this message, this idea that
president trump s visit could be an historic reset between the west and the arab muslim world, well, the emirate foreign minister appearing to undermine that. ana. nic robertson, thank you. inside arabia tonight. what is being described as a watergate scandal continues to bear down on the white house. we re learning the house intelligence committee has asked to interview caputo who has tie toss russia and who worked there a number of years. we want to bring in mike quigley, on the house intelligence committee. thank you for joining us, congressman. i know your committee asked to see special documents from caputo. why has he become part of your committee s investigation? well, i will say that there s a long list of who s on our witness list. i mean the good news is the investigation in the house side is back on track. tuesday director brennon will be
testifying before us. clear those hearings are beginning again. those references you made to particular individuals, there are a lot of others. we re preparing those deposition like briefings very soon. at the same time we continue to review documents on a weekly basis. i guess the good news is the investigation is back on track while we hear all ofne these prs release statements coming out about particular witnesses. we re going to move forward as a hole. now, a source close to jim acosta or close to the investigation tells jim acosta caputo wants to clear his name in public testimony. is the committee open to that? look, there have been any number of people who are involved in this investigation who have said that they re willing to come forward and clear their name. some have asked for immunity. you know, we have heard that general flynn has asked for
immunity. it is way too soon to think about something like that. we have a companion justice department investigation, a senate investigation taking place at the same time. you know, we have to work in concert with both of them as well as a dod investigation of general flynn apparently. we re hoping to open and close hearings. in my mind the more open this investigative process is, the better it is, the american public has a right to know what took place. under each circumstance it will be a little bit different. obviously we can t have confidential top secret information revealed. right. we know the tuesday hearing as far as my understanding of what s on the house intelligent website will be part open, part closed. you talked about jim brennon coming on. what do you want to ask him? you know, the big question would be when did the intelligence community find out exactly what the russians were
doing, particularly hacking, and how did they react? how quickly and effectively did they respond? another series of questions would obviously be, you know, what are the russian s goals? what are their tactics? where are they taking this tactics on across the world? what is their overall plan there and here in the united states? now, just this weekend we learned that president trump apparently bragged to the russians about firing former fbi director james comey, that comey believed the president was trying to influence him. what s your reaction to this new reporting? you know, what s disturbing about all of this is ever since the investigation began i felt like the white house was attempting to distract and deflect and delay the investigation. the revelations that have taken place in the last month are far more disturbing. they approach obstruction, you know, firing the person who s investigating you. threatening them with tweets,
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was named as would be one of tht books to explain trump s win. will his voters take note of his speech and his lack of using those three words today? i think it is difficult to generalize because there is not a single trump voter. there are many types of trump voters. the two broad buckets i would put some of the conversations i ve had with some of the trump supporters in the past day or so is that, you know, there are folks who are certainly a little bothered maybe by some of the things that they re hearing, some folks who won t be especially happy he has discarded some of the tougher rhetoric during the campaign, but fundamentally they re going to stick with him. i think you have the core group of trump voters who because american politics is fundamentally an us versus them game, they re never going to abandon trump. that s probably, my guessst around, about 20 pearls of the electorate. those folks, while they may be a little unhappy with things trump does day-to-day, at a
impression that they re not getting a whole lot done. now, of course, it has only been 120 days so far, so that feeling hasn t really set in very deeply, but i do think that if a year from now we re looking back on the same basic arguments we ve been having, the same twitter battles, the same investigation and no major pieces of legislation have been bass pass, there haven t been material improvements in some of the issues that drove people to vote for trump in the first place, i think that will cause some significant political problems for him down the road. j.d., we only have like 30 seconds, but when it comes to the russia investigation, which obviously the huge news back here at home, presume has called it a witch hunt. he s basically said it is a hoax in some ways. do his supporters care about getting to the bottom of russia s meddling in the election? well, some of them certainly do, and i think there are a lot of folks that are concerned about it though, like i said, no
current to the point they re ready to completely discard their man. but i will say that this implements something much more fundamental and troubling in our public discourse, is that people don t trust the media. a lot of times you hear folks who will be a little worried about what they re hearing coming out of the trump/russia investigation, but at the same time they ll say, look, we don t trust the press. that s something bigger than the republican party or donald trump, but it is difficult for us to have the conversation when we don t have shared facts and we can t have shared facts when we have at least some acceptance of who is giving us the facts. robert mueller facing criticism from an unlikely place. what the sports world has to say about the man leading the russia investigation. plus, startling video of a sea lion yanking a small girl into the water. what led up to this terrifying
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soft picks, proxabrush cleaners, flossers. gum brand. the federal investigation into possible collusion between president trump s campaign aides and the russians now has a leader and both republicans and democrats have near universal praise of the appointment of former fbi director robert mueller for that job. i think we ve got a very capable, qualified pick in robert mueller. if i were the administration i would cooperate as much as possible. he s an outstanding public servant, and he ll get to the bottom of this. i m very happy with the selection of bob mueller. i think he brings a record of integrity, under, and i think bipartisan support. the best thing that happened, chris, was to have something like mueller to come in, who i
also know, who has a stellar reputation for no nonsense. now, contrast that with almost universal scepticism from the sports world. you see, mueller s last high-profile investigation was back in 2014, the case of nfl star ray rice, who knocked out his fiance in an elevator in atlantic city. the nfl, specifically commissioner roger goodell, came under intense scrutiny for only suspending rice for two games after the video of the incident was released. the leak claimed they had not seen that video, and robert mueller was hired by the nfl to investigate whether that was true. after four months mueller cleared goodell when he announced no one in the nfl had seen that assault video prior to it being public. many in the sports world questioned whether thhe was rewarded by the league that
hired you. you call mueller, quote, an institutionallist. explain. yes, i called him an institutionallist and someone who at least in the nfl case was more of a deodorizer than an exterminator, like somebody who was brought in by roger goodell and the national football league effectively to protect the institution of the national football league, brought in by roger goodell at a time when many columnists, many pundits were calling for roger goodell s job and got in there to say roger goodell did nothing wrong, although the nfl had problems with x, y and z. the other thing that mueller did with the nfl investigation was that he kept the focus extremely narrow on the question of did the nfl cover up the ray rice videotape and not the broader mandate a lot of people wanted him to look at, which is whether under roger goodell there were serial cover ups of violence against women.
there were a combined 13 games players were suspended for 55 instances. a lot of people thought, this is robert mueller, he will come in and look at this in the broadest possible scope. instead, it was about protecting the institution of the national football league, keeping it very narrow. now, i think the comparison to right now, which i think is very interesting, is because, yeah, robert mueller is an institutionallist, comes from the ivy league, comes in from the highest echelons to preserve institutions. it will be interesting to see if it bends toward protecting the basic trust people have in the executive branch. i m trying to figure out where you think the motivation would be for him to try to push a person outcome. yeah, i mean honestly all i m trying to do is read the tea leaves of what happened in the national football league and see
first tee gives if it gives us any clue as to his basic approach of what we ll see in this investigation. what do we know from looking at this national football league investigation? we know he came from a law firm that had tons of nfl executives that came from the lanranks of wilmer hail. we see one of the partners represents jared kushner and e ivanka trump. he has taken a leave from wilmer hale because of conflict of interest. don t you think it is vastly different this time? yes. he had a mandate to investigate the national football league and he played it very light. when it was done, all of the power players were still in play. he was not an exterminator, he was a deodorizer so the league could keep the trains running on time. what does it tell us if anything about how he will approach this investigation? i frankly don t have an answer to that question, but i think the reason why and i m
certainly not alone in this a lot of folks in the sports world were far more skeptical he would come in and be the cleanup man on this particular case, because we saw what happened with the national football league. for a lot of us, it is like that s our first exposure to robert mueller, so wire likhatg to change with this guy. still to come, the president may have some explaining to do it. is headed to israel in a few hours. there s a good chance you will be asked about intel he reportedly leaked to the russians. next, prime minister netanyahu s message prior to his arrival. 4g lte network in america. it s basically made for places like this. honey, what if it was just us out here? right. so, i ordered you a car. thank you. you don t want to be out here at night cause of the, uh, coyotes. ok, thanks, bud. bye.
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classified intelligence during this meeting with russian officials inside the oval office. this intelligence apparently came from israel and it was so sensitive it hadn t even been shared with some of our other allies. joining us to talk about what could be a tight walk rope of diplomacy, cnn political commentator peter binart. is this something mr. benjamin netanyahu would want to address with president trump? i doubt it. i think there s a lot of concern among israeli intelligence officials but netanyahu wants to get along with trump. trump offers the same thing as he is offering the saudis, first of all a hard line giagainst ir which is what israeli wants. if benjamin netanyahu gets those two things he will leave the intelligence people to deal with it privately in terms of future interactions with their american counterpart and make it all smiles with trump. he had a message for the president, and he put it on
twitter, one of the president s favorite platforms. mr. president, we look forward to your visit. the citizens of israel will receive you with open arms. would it be in the united states and the president s best interests to, i guess, to be too friendly with netanyahu in this visit? no, i think it is very much in trump s interest to be friendly with netanyahu. israel is very popular inside the republican party. but in terms of the peace deal, i imagine there s some sensitivity in terms of how he addresses this. david miller for example said it probably wouldn t push the ball forward if he were to walk away with all smiles during this visit. i don t believe there s a ball. i think it is to be honest i think it is a far ace. i don t think donald trump has the basic level of knowledge or stamina or patience that would be required to make a serious effort towards palestinian/israeli peace, plus the circumstances are not right
for it. the palestinians are weak and divided, benjamin netanyahu doesn t want a palestinian think. it looks like a lot of theater. the real game is america supporting a harder line against iran, which is what the saudis and israelis want. i think in terms of the palestinians, i think benjamin netanyahu will have a free rein. this region is obviously complex. we learned today that the u.s. ambassador, friedman, he was at the jerusalem day celebrations. that was seen as controversial, that move. how do you think the saudis received that? i think truthfully the saudis don t care that much about the palestinians. what they really care is about an american president who is going to support their cold war against iran, their war in yemen, and the palestinians for them take a back seat to all of that. they know that donald trump i suspect they know is not going to do very much on the palestinian cause, but they re a self-interested government and the palestinians are not their
priority. jared kushner was supposed to be the man to broker the middle east peace deal. do you expect him to take on a larger role during this visit? sure, but in what universe would we think jared kushner has the qualifications to do that? he has no expertise or golf classic ground on this whatsoever. so, you know dow think it is odd he was given this task? you know, look, he has been given a huge number of tasks by donald trump because donald trump runs the government like a family business. basically the people close to him tend to take the jobs in previous administrations professionals also took. he probably sees jared kushner as a liaison to the jewish community. but he doesn t have the background i think would be required to get it done. again, even a much more competent administration would struggle given the circumstances are not very ripe. thanks so much, peter beinart. good the talk with you. thank you. still ahead, president donald trump brought a message to muslims in saudi arabia that sounded nothing like candidate trump. how did this new tone go over
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muslim-american men with opposing views of president trump. new york times contributor and founder and chairman of muslim-americans for trump. president trump avoided saying radical islamic terrorist, three words he used often on the campaign trail. did that omission make a difference to you? it doesn t make a difference. he has done a wonderful job. we are humbled that he started his first word with saudi arabia, and the keyword, drive them out. you know, $100 billion for the american economy and neutralizing the gift of barack obama to iran, making iran a threat to the american allies. we think he has done a good job. whether the threating is coming in the 21st century. he is delivering his man dade.
he was received by 50 muslim leaders there and he was received, you know, like a king and everything. right. to be honest with you, we are so happy he achieved his objectives. so, waja ha, you said his speech was only good for golf countries and not for repairing relations with muslims. do not let commentators fawning over it, saudi arabia is smiling ear to ear, they get everything and then some. trump is a businessman, he says the arms deal will create thousands of jobs in the u.s. explain your dismay. it should be called make saudi arabia great again. muslim-americans for trump, respectfully, you re killing me. it is like chickens for colonel sanders. this is what i called a beautiful marriage between ugly hypocrites. donald trump got his dowery by saudi family. he bent and did a curt situate
and was given a royal necklace in exchange for saudi arabia forgetis his two year campaign of islamophobia and calling them out for being directly responsible for 9/11 twice and saying they re enablers of terrorism. it was all wash away. i think islam hates us because they got $350 billion worth of arms that they will use to fuel the sectarian war and fire in humanitarian crisis that is yemen, in syria and in lebanon. what is worse, ana, this was not a speech for islam or muslim majority countries. all saudi arabia wants is legitimacy of center of islam that they are not given because it supports an extreme version of islam. donald trump gave them legitimacy, $350 billion worth of arms they will use in yemen,
in syria. so saudi arabia is smiling ear to ear. saudi arabia got everything it want. i will say this, sometimes i was listening to the speech i m like, wow, it sounds like a saudi arabia p.r. agent wrote this for donald trump. and if you lavish donald trump with pling and praise he bends and does curt situates. how do you respond? my response is criticizing donald trump these days is a business. a lot of people have opened shops on it. a lot of politicians are trying to get the glory out of it. my say is this, these people a few weeks back were criticizing the ban on countries and he is anti-islam. the bottom line is this. he realized in 21st century is what is a threat is extremism and he is dealing with it. during his campaign he continuously promised he would
deliver, and these people, critics i mean will be critics all the time. like i told you, they ve opened up the shop and doing business on criticizing donald trump which is not fair. they re not talking about what happened during the campaign. donald said thing, they re going witch hunting now and criticizing left and right. people are getting sick of it. you think that people who are critics of trump will be critics no matter what. they re not open minded to hearing when he does something positive, is that your viewpoint? thank you. and matter of fact thing is this i wanted to say. first time in american history the president who realized where the future threats are and he has started his trip from saudi arabia, israel and then rome. there should be they should see something before they re criticizing it. this is a wonderful job. only a non- a professional politician would not have done it, taking such a huge risk starting from there. instead of appreciating it,
muslims like myself, we are so thankful that because we are victim of terrorism ourselves. who is going to demonize should he have addressed the human rights issues and oppression in that reeg gion as american leader and representing this democracy and some of the values of america? of course. he s there he is there, he is promoting that. $110 billion, that obviously trade deals with the saudis and not only this, six gulf states where did he promote human rights. he didn t. in his remark? no, his is a trade trip. it is not a fashion show trip up there. he s not there to promote the civil liberties or other things. he is going there trying to neutralize what barack obama did, giving $400 million gift to iran, destabilizing the whole region. those are fighting in syria, those are fighting in iraq. those have become a threat to
muslim allies. he is trying to neutralize that. it is not too late, come back from the dark side, brother. i still believe in you. there s a light in you still. your shop will be closed pretty soon. ana, i m not an llc right now, but, listen. you got 10 seconds. aim so sorry to cut you off. this is not criticizing for nothing, criticizing for nothing. this was a great short term and long term benefit between trump administration and saudis and the gulf countries for economic gain. that is your opinion. for promotion of defense industries and for a sectarian war that will destabilize the region and increase extremism. we have to leave it there. thank you. people in chicago are raising a collective voice in support of immigrants and refugees in their city. this is called the one chicago campaign, kicked off today. chicago s response to president trump s threat to cut federal funding to so-called sanctuary cities. to date a federal judge has blocked that executive order
from going into effect. immigration arrests across the nation are up 40% since trump took office. we have some breaking news just in to cnn. a major development in a brutal killing that happened last night on a college campus in maryland. police have formally charged a university of maryland student with stabbing another student to death, and now maryland police are confirming the killer was a member of a racist facebook group used by more than 1100 people who make the victim from another school. police do not believe he was provoked by the victim. lots to learn here. the name has not bye-bye released. still ahead, chinese dumplings, noodles, patties, are you hungry? all this on an all new episode of parts unknown. (burke) at farmers, we ve seen almost everything,
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you got to see this. come look. video taken out of canada. a little girl sitting on the dock near the water and a sea layon who attracted tourists jumps out of the the water yanking that little girl off the edge of the pier by her dress. it pulls her in. you see a man jump in to rescue the girl. obviously, a very big scare, but thankfully nobody was hurt. on tonight s new episode of parts unknown , anthony takes us to queens. eat your way through various areas of south america. you don t have to go far. it s right across the river.
and i know that queens is awesome, but i don t spend much time there. i m always surprised to see the difference between neighborhoods. you can take the number 7 train and get off at a different stop. food and culture and people and businesses. this is a show donald trump will hate. why? because this is what america looks like. this is what his city looks like. we are an immigrant nation. that is abundantly and profoundly clear in queens. in one part of new york city. it s a big part. it s maybe the most exciting area to eat. when you talk about how it sort of epitomized america, i want to read to you what one of the people you talked to said a about this zone. if the american dream is alive anywhere, i think it s alive in
a place like queens. do you agree with that? absolutely. a place you can come and surround yourself to some extent with the comforts of home and familiar faces, but also walk five blocks over and have a hamburger and take the subway to e see the mets. you can have a hamburger, but you can also have the street food on rosevelt avenue. you have tibeten food, spanish food, beef patties, this is all within queens. which neighborhood is the best? i love the chinese korean neighborhoods. it s so much better than china town. it s really u authentic. cooking for chinese people
and not worried about attracting anybody. they don t need anybody else s business. they are going to keep it right. particularly korean food. more resolutely have refused to change or adapt their food to other flavors. they are not preparing it the way it should be made, the way taught them or whatever they learned and have kept it real chrks is what makes it so exciting. so what s the one thing people need to try? put your toe in the water with korean barbecue. it s pretty accessible. anthony bourdain starts in just a moment. but first, i want to take a note to honor the passing of a former reporter. he worked for cnn from 1983 to 2001. found himself on the scene of many major stories mm among them, one of the first to enter saudi arabia after the invasion

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supreme court. the obsession with covering everything he says on twitter and very little what he does as president that s his preferred message of communication. the administration attempting to down play the importance of the president s tweets. the policy of the social media, chris. it is social media. it is not social media. it is his words. his thoughts. it is not a policy. it is social media. after tauting twitter as an essential part of the president s strategy for months. donald trump s social media platform is a powerful way for him to connect with the people. also education kalating his fight with london s mayor, accusing him of offering a pathetic excuse when he advised london residents not to be alarmed by increased security in the city. offering the scathing response when asked about mr. trump s planned visit to the u.k. his policies go against
everything we stand for. apparently on message when he tweeted out there was a big meeting today with the republican leadership concerning tax cuts and health care. said they are all pushing hard, must get it right. we are expecting sean spicer at the podium briefing today and that is that meeting with congressional leaders is apparently the most important thing going on as far as we know right now. back to you. all right, joe. appreciate it. the president tweeting again about something very serious and it matters. during my recent trip to the middle east i stated there can be no longer funding of radical ideology. leaders pointed to qatar. look. what does this mean? we have angus king.
senator, always good to see you. what do you make of this? why is the president going out of his way to undermine the white house s own message? well, i don t think he s going out of his way to purposefully undermine it. i think he s being himself and communicating that the danger is that he s making policy almost inadvertently. i had been governor 20 years ago about a month when a friend said you have to be careful when you are having lunch or walking down the hall, you can verbally make policy. when you are the president, you can t just say what is on your mind at that particular moment and i think this is you know, this is a significant problem for the administration to then say, don t mind what this man is saying over here, you know, wizard of oz, don t pay attention to the main behind the curtain, that doesn t fas the straight face test. for months they told us we
are wrong for saying the travel ban is a ban. he then tweets again and again and again in an odd context, you know, in a moment of crisis for london where you would think a president would be reaching out and be conciliatory, and he says it is a ban. it has always been a ban. i want it to be a ban and i want it to be the original ban, which is something that could have a little bit of bearing on the case before the supreme court. kellyanne conway s husband has already pointed out that that s a compromise of the case because what the courts have been looking at is what is this really. is this the president s exercise of his authority to limit immigration, or is it an intentional act to try to keep certain people out of the country for religious reasons? and his his comments, his extracurricular comments, if you will, have already been used in the court proceedings. so, you know, you re right.
and i think it goes to the issue of realizing the power of the presidency. you can make an offhand comment that the market will fall 500 points or there will be a conflict that will arise. it is not you give up it seems to me when you become president you give up the right to be offhanded about your comments and just say whatever is on your mind at that moment. the consequences, the results are just too significant. they absolutely matter. and the suggestion they are just tweets is absurd. you can see it again and again. look at the comey situation you will be facing. you re one of the senators who will get to ask questions of the former fbi director on thursday. the president s tweets about comey were fundamental in our understanding of what went on there with his firing, just as it is when he went on record with a journalist and talked about it.
what do you want to ask of comey? one of the advantages of being more or less junior on the committee is i get to listen to the other questions and mr. comey s answers before i have to formulate mine. i want to get to the bottom of what were the circumstances surrounding the firing, what were the circumstances surrounding these various meetings going back to after the inauguration and was he asked to be loyal and was he asked to somehow put a tamper on part of the investigation. these are very important questions. but i have some other questions, too, that frankly, i am going to wait until the hearing to share with mr. comey. you don t want to give us a little bit of an advance, is that s okay, senator. do you have any particular curiously about that paragraph that stuck out in everybody s minds that the president had drafted from the white house where he thanked comey or at least recognized comey for telling him on three separate occasions that he was not part
of investigation. do you want to know if that ever happened? absolutely. that paragraph you refer to was in the letter where he fired comey. by the way, the last line of that letter is good luck with your future endeavors or something like that. it was sort of strange. but absolutely, did you reassure the president. and this is a very, very important part of this investigation. we were concerned that perhaps director comey s testimony would be not suppressed isn t the right word, but pushed to the side somewhat by the mueller investigation, but director mueller is not going to constrain mr. comey from speaking to us fully and i think that s good news. we should get a full accounting from jim comey on thursday. that s an important development. so as far as you know, the former director is not being
held in any way by the special counsel in what he can talk to you. do you expect comey to refuse to discuss any topic? well, i do expect that he won t discuss the russian investigation itself. in other words, the investigation that mueller is now in charge of. what it was like or what he knew when he left. i ll be surprised if he does that. but as far as from the inauguration on and his interactions with the president, that appears to be absolutely fair game and it s very important material for us to have. senator, we anticipate your questions. it is going to be a big day. we are starting new day an hour early and we have special coverage starting at 9:00. the testimony is supposed be at 10:00. who do you believe has the nicer tie on this morning, you or me?
well, i think the deal is we re both promoting maine lobsters this morning. full disclosures, this is from the senator, this tie. there is a little lobster trap at the bottom of it. i commented i liked the senator tie and in italian fashion he sent me it. did you coordinate your outfit this is morning before you came on the air? no. i knew the senator was coming on. i wore this to ingratiate myself to him. i want you to see on my tie, each lobster has an american flag. that s an american lobster. i do not have flags on mine, which is now making me feel inadequate. senator, i like your shirt. the shirts are from l.l. bean. hey! that s a maine company. oh, it is? i didn t notice. senator, thank you very much.
great to see you. thank you. good to be with you. president trump digging in, defending his use of twitter as members of his own administration say his tweets don t mean anything. who should we listen to? him. listen to the president. kind never had to. we choose real ingredients like almonds, peanuts and a drizzle of dark chocolate. give kind a try. the beswith neutrogena® beach? beach defense® sunscreen. helioplex™ powered, uva uvb strong. beach strength protection for the whole family. for the best day in the sun. neutrogena®.
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they hate i can get the honest and unfiltered message out. that s different than the message his administration was sending out yesterday. it s not policy. it is social media, chris. it is not social media. it is his words, his thoughts. it is not policy. it is not an executive order. it is social policy. please understand the difference. i think you need an understanding here. i know what policy is. you are a journalist. are you saying we shouldn t listen what the president says? you shouldn t obsess about it for 12 minutes, chris. this obsession of covering what he does on twitter and not as a president. let s obsess about it a little bit more and try to get the answers. let s bring in our panel. we have chris cillizza and david gregory and april ryan. april, we know you had a very interesting exchange in the white we will get to momentarily. okay. david gregory, yes, the
president s words matter. obviously he is the president of the free world. whatever he says matters. however, he says lots of different things on twitter. how are we to know which ones are official? here is what chris collins, congressman chris collins tried to thread this needle to help us understand which ones to pay attention to. listen to this. it s social media. it is not social media. it is his words, his thoughts. it is not policy. it is not an executive order. it is social media. please understand the difference. you take them seriously because they are our president s thoughts. however, the nuances at the end, there will be a certain filter they go through when they become official policy. okay. david, you heard them both say they are not official policy. well, this doesn t have to be a debate. i mean, the president is speaking in an unfilgters way.
he is providing remarkable transparency on the part of any president to really let us into what he thinks, what position he stakes out. for all of his advisors, i just, you know, kind of dismiss all that. they are in an impossible position. they are allowing themselves to be sent out. he is the president of the united states, words matter. he should care about the office of the president and what that means on the world stage. he doesn t care about that, so he can offend the mayor of london right after the attack and inaccurately quote him from the aftermath of the attack or he can essentially undercut his own administration on the issue of the travel ban. all of these things i think just undermine his potential effectiveness. he is a leader who wants to either respond to crisis or advance a legislative agenda. he is not doing either very well because he s only creating more
discord within his administration. he himself is erratic, so we don t know where he ultimately will land. but what he s saying is absolutely what he thinks and that s the bottom line. and that is the utility in it, chris cillizza, this idea that he can be all over the place. yeah, and very often we don t get any access to that with our leaders. we don t see the vagaries and the iterations and tbecause the get filtered. so doesn t every single tweet, every iteration, every twist matter? yes. in fact, i would argue it matters more than many of the statements we get. so david s point certainly out of his staff and out of official such as they are presidential statements. i watched that chris collins interview with wonderment and amazement because basically what
chris collins did in that interview is make the exact case for why we should pay a ton of attention to donald trump s tweets. he essentially said, this isn t like an official statement that s filtered through a bunch of people. this is just the president talking. the president said the same thing. that s the point. he s talking about us. the irony is nobody wants him to tweet more than we do. i want him to tweet every second, you know? yeah. this is him breaking with he has been i guarantee you, look, chris, i know how the media works. there is no one in the media who says, man, i hope donald trump tweets less. that is not a thing that happens. then the people who tell him to tweet less are people on his staff. so, look, again, i would urge people if you have not watched that chris collins interview, go back and watch it because it is the tortured logic of trying to explain something that is unexplainable. why he s his tweets are
basically the most authentic representation of him but also not official policy because they haven t been filtered six ways to sunday. that s right. so, april, there you are on the front lines, right at the white house press room every day trying to make sense of all of this, trying to figure out what to pay attention to, what to prioritize, what to take seriously and literally whatnot to and trying to get answers and what is your experience like when you make these points to whoever it is and you have to listen to them do these verbal gymnastics. it is tough. it is very tough because logic says one thing and they re saying another. and you use the operative trying to make sense, trying is the operative word. but then you have the president of the united states going to chris and david, who made excellent points. he comes and just upsets the apple cart with what they are trying to do. he is the leader of the free
world. he is the president of the united states. and words matter. his words matter. they re archived. he shakes markets. he changes policy. whatever he thinks and we watch on twitter, we take that more so as fact than what they are saying at that podium because he is their leader. he is their boss. he is the leader of the free world and what he is thinking is actually coming out. then you hear it just does not come together or mary that well. there also seems to be a window, david, into this deepening discord that the president has with those around him. the reporting in the times this morning about how he feels about jeff sessions and whether he recused and obviously it wasn t an accident he talks so much about the travel ban in the context of the doj doing the wrong thing. but for him to, with a clear mind, according to his tweets this morning, go out there and contradict what he knows what his surrogates are saying, that
tells us something also, doesn t it? it tells us a lot. presidential leadership has a singular aspect to it, right, that there is an aspect of leadership that comes from the top, that comes from the president. but government is very much a team effort. that s why you have a team of advisors who help you wade through information, work through complicated issues and reach a decision that s the best decision that you can possibly make under the circumstances. in this case, we have evidence here and the tweeting is just symptomatic of it, of a president who is simply not listening. so when he says that social media is not policy, he has a point. what matters is not where you start, but where you finish. but we don t know where the president is going to finish and what we often know is that wherever he starts is where he himself would like to finish and may well finish if he s not listening to the advice around him. and the tweet gave us a better reckoning of what he
wants out of the executive order on travel than the official position. he says he want it is original. but we don t know where it will finish, to david s point. that s not what the supreme court will decide on. the supreme court is going to rule on the constitutionality of the order before it, which is the second one. right. but if the president, he started the muslim ban. he called it that, said he wanted it. he wanted the final word. he says he didn t want that. of course he s the final word. the supreme court is the final word. that s of the legality of the order. what that order is is up to the president. he signs it and drafts it. that s why it is called an executive order. panel, we ll spare you having to weigh in on all of this. thank you very much. new details about terror attacks on london. we know the identities of all three attackers. one of them was known to british authorities. in what context? live ahead. i guess i was born with a crayon in my hand.
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live at the market scene with the latest. have what you learned? reporter: so we know now who these third attacker is. he is 22-year-old, an italian national of mor rock can decent. he was living in east london. they say he was not on their radar or a person of interest. however, italian authorities say he was a person of interest to the italian police because he had been stopped a couple of years ago carrying a one-way ticket to istanbul. they have listen to believe perhaps he was trying to travel to syria. this raising questions about how it is or why, rather, italian authorities were not kbh communicating with other authorities here. one of the attackers was very well known to london authorities, a well known local extremist group that has been
disbanded. he was even in ai document that aired recently. some questions as to why some of these people weren t on their radar, particularly the british man in question. chris? once again showing the difficulty of that volume of cases that they have there to look at. in the wake of that attack, president trump is renewing his criticism of the mayor of london. but what is the president doing to fight terror here at home? let s discuss with cnn counter terrorism analyst phillip mud, former u.s. ambassador at large and state department coordinator for counter terrorism, daniel benjamin. that is one heck of a title you got going there. so when we look at the talk, the talk is tauf, phillip mud, from the president about terror.
he beat the drum during the campaign. he does so now. it is why he says he needs a travel ban and wants to revert to a version of it that seemed to target muslims from select countries. but in terms of policy, activity on the ground, what do we know about how this administration is dealing with terror versus the last one? we know a lot, chris. i remember watching the president say last year when it was on the campaign trail, i have a secret plan, and i think we know what the secret plan is, which is doing a lot of what the old guy did, which is president obama. if you look at the areas of engagement, there is a couple of characteristics. you have to support local militaries in places like afghanistan and iraq. this president has done that, as president obama did. you have to maintain drone warfare. you have to support law enforcement and intelligence in the united states. i d say that s a mixed message from the president in light of what he did from former fbi
director comey. there is one area and dan can speak to this as well as i can that is different. that is, who do you pick as allies around the world? this president has said if there is a dictator around the world, for example, the president of egypt who will fight extremism, i will favor that dictator at the expense of language about democracy. that is an area where president trump has been clear. daniel, your take? right. i think phil has it exactly right about the continue yties. and by implication, supporting repressi repression, which as we know is a big driver of radicalization. so backing someone like general all see see in egypt is going to come back to haunt us. the other difference is the president has shown us completely with saudi arabia and the gulf arabs and say sectarian
strife is okay. let s fight iran. that s another major driver of extremism. 40,000 people went to fight in syria and ara iraq. and part of the reason is they went is they wanted to kill shia. out of that comes a lot of radicalization. what is your gut sense on whether or not the perception of trump makes americans safer? my clear perception is that it is not making america safer, as phil and everyone else in the business knows, it is vitally important to maintain the trust of muslim communities, especially at home but also abro abroad. those are communities at home that provide us with something like 40% of our information on radicalization subjects and if those people are alienated, are intimidated or isolated, they
are going to clam up. and the muslim travel ban, the talk about a national registry, things like that, all of those are having a chilling effect and could be dangerous over the long time. so i don t think that s going to help us. your reaction to the push back from the president s surrogates when they say, hey, if the travel ban for a muslim ban, they would have included indonesia on there. so you really don t have any case to make that this is about muslims. i am confused from two aspects of this, chris. one is if you say on the campaign trail, i m going to institute a muslim ban and days in office the ban that you institute now called by the president of the united states as a ban targets countries that are solely muslim majority, you have to say, well, i assume the president is doing what he said. the second piece of a confusion is what the trump folks are saying. if they want to make america safer and you look at the case in the u.k. of someone out of
mor rocco in this case and a resident in italy, you look at origins of this extremism. none of these are on the list. i look at this and say how is this supposed to help? i can t figure out the answer to that question. it mirrored what obama has done when he targeted travel on not identity. gentlem gentlemen, thank you very much for making important things. hillary clinton may have lost the 2016 election, but powerful women are still breaking barriers in washington, d.c. and dana bash speaks with long-time senator and bad-ass woman of washington, dianne feinstein.
with mailing a classified report to a news outlet. president trump defending his use of twitter this morning. his tweet undercutting white house aids trying to defend him and his agenda. police have identified the third terrorist. one of the attackers was known to british intelligence, but was not under active surveillance somethe gunman in monday s deadly workplace shooting targeted his victims. police say a 45-year-old army vet killed five former colleagues before takes his own life. he was recently fired by his employer. wonder woman number one at the box office, making history or technically herstory. that is the biggest opening for a female directed film. the director will be on new day tomorrow morning. very exciting. she is a bad-ass woman.
she is. which leads to our next segment. i m going to say that word as often as i can. speaking of wonder woman, go ahead, tell us about this next segment. the segue that was working here, senator dianne feinstein is opening up about her distinguished career and how unimaginable tragedy put her on a trail blazing path. take a look. i became mayor as a product of assassination of the mayor being killed and the first openly guy public official being killed by a friend and colleague of mine. very tumultuous time. for when dana bash joins her in a new series called bad-ass women of washington. there you go. you said it. i ve found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced.
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decided, let s just call it that. it stuck. and we spoke with seven women across the political and generational spec rtrum for the series. dianne feinstein has a story that will make you say, wow, she is a bad-ass. probably fair to say most women graduating from stamford in the 1950s were focussed on finding a husband and having a familiar hi. you wanted to go into politics. did people think you were crazy? yeah. the first time out, something must be wrong with her. she must have a bad marriage. why is she doing this? people said that to you? oh, yeah. being a woman in our society even today is difficult. you know it in the press area. i know it in the political area. 47 years ago, feinstein won a local election that eventually led her here. the chair of the president of the board of supervisors in san francis francisco. there are a lot of people that didn t think it was right for her to take this seat because
she was a woman. she ran for mayor twice in the 1970s but lost both times. and then tragedy put her in the job. i became mayor as a product of assassination of the mayor being killed and the first openly guy pub hilic official bg killed by a friend and colleague of mine. one of the first openly guy elected officials in america was shot and killed. i have seen reports that said that you think maybe i could have stopped it. i was a friend of dan s. and i tried to some extent to mentor him and, oh, i never really talk about this. dan had resigned and then wanted the seat back and, so, he had an appointment with the mayor, and he walked into the office and he shot him a number of times.
the door to the office opened and he came in. i heard the door slam. i heard the shots. i smell eed it. he wisinged by. i walked down the line of supervisor s office. it was the first person i had ever seen shot to death. both the mayor and supervisor had been shot and killed. the suspect is supervisor dan white. that was the most painful look at division. i tried to bring people together. feinstein became acting mayor and then was elected in her own right. when you were mayor and there
was a fire. i had a radio in my room, my bedroom. when a building would burn and everybody was out on the sidewalk, i went and introduced them to the red cross. politics was not gender neutral like a time that a developer bet her if she b finished a project on time, she would have to wear a bathing suit. she kept that and hundreds of other mow men toes in a special room inside her san francisco home. there are a lot of stories here. in 1984 he was in the running to be walter mondale s running meat. they thought i was going to get it. this was going to be the cover. didn t happen that way. why didn t you ever run for president? i don t know. i felt i would never be elected.
see, look how hard it is. look at hillary. look at what she s gone through. yeah. you have done hard before. yeah, i ve done hard before, but it is not a bad thing being in the senate. and she s done a lot that she s proud of. high on the list is gun control. let me tell you, i ve seen assassination. i ve seen killing. i know what these guns can do. and she wracked up a lot more firsts as a woman. first female member of the senate judiciary committee and first female chair of the intelligence committee and i ll never forget that moment in 2014 when she denied president obama, the leader of her own party by going to the senate floor and releasing a torture report obama did not want public. it was an investigation she oversaw and she wanted the public to see it. history will judge us by our commitment to a just society governed by law and the willingness to face an ugly
truth and say never again. there was some flak. well, yeah. one of your colleagues from california, republican congressman, said you were as much a traitor to this country as edward snowden. well, he had a bad day. it is not always easy. it is hard. people watching this looking at you will be shocked to know that you are the oldest serving u.s. senator. don t rub it in. i m not. it s the opposite. it s what i m meant to do. and as long as the old bean holds up. i m from the generation where we dropped under our desks. were people out there saying i want to be dianne feinstein. i want to do what she did. run, but prepare yourself. and so many times talented young women go for the top first. you can t do that.
start young, earn your spurs. you don t drop out. you take defeat after defeat after defeat. but you keep going. and i really believe that. yeah, okay. she qualifies as a bad-ass woman. i didn t know a lot of that stuff and she admitted she doesn t often talk about some of these, obviously the more painful details. absolutely. you can see where she had to take a breath and pace herself. i have covered her for a long time. she s talked about it a little bit after the new town masker when she was trying to revive the gun ban. she is going to be 84 later this month. oh, my gosh. and you really would never know it. and she is somebody who is a mentor to a lot of women. there are now 21 women in the senator. she s a mentor to women in the senator across party lines. speaking about across party
lines, you spoke to lots of women about this. you spoke to democrats, republicans, you spoke to military women. yes, exactly. another one we re highlighting today elaine chow, transportation secretary who talks about the fact she came here on a cargo ship from taiwan at age 8. her story, really honest conversation about a lot of things, including never having children. i can t wait to watch that and the entire bad-ass series. great to have you here. you can watch the full series. how many times can i say the word? one more. jersey girl. totally. cnn news room with bad-ass pop lpy harlow and john berman picks up after this break.

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the fisher director who is the only person who is independently leading this moving forward when you don t have him doing that you need an outside group doing it. republicans should call for that shouldn t be a partisan thing. cnn live coverage of this breaking news is obviously going to be continuing all night. jake tapper along at 11:00 p.m. eastern with a special report. first don lemon and cnn tonight with the latest. anderson thank you very much our breaking news tonight, president trump bombshell firing of fbi director james comey. this is cnn tonight i m don lemon let s put it as plainly as we can. the president of the united states has fired the man investigating his campaign s ties to russia. fired him. shocking confusion tonight on capitol hill. around the country and around the world. now questions being raised of whether there is a cover-up going on. this is definitely not politics as usual. we have said it before but it s
look at this very brief letter the president sent to the fisher director hand tlifrd to the fbi late this afternoon, the second appraise of this letter perhaps says it all. let s take a look at it don. it says while i greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions that i am not under investigation, i nevertheless concur with the judgment of the department of justice that you are not able to effective lead the bureau. now, all of in is coming the white house is explaining the firing because the director of the fisher had lost the confidence of the bureau. he said the deputy attorney general and the attorney general made this recommendation to the president. but in their memorandums and letters that they sent out here paul of them are talking about the clinton investigation, the 2016 campaign. they say director comey did not handle himself properly in that investigation. in the president s letter he does not mention the clinton controversy campaign one time. he brings up his own
investigation, the russia investigation trying to make a point on that. don, this is not the end of the story. it seems it s the beginning of yet another chapter in washington, another controversy perhaps the biggest one yet with the trump administration. i think you re absolutely right as astonishing as that appraise in that letter is it s also astonishing to say they didn t perceive at the white house dana bash, weren t prepared for the reaction how about the reaction would be who is that naive in the white house that did not realize this would be a big story. it seems like that was a pervasive. naive is your word not mine but it s probably pretty appropriate here don given the fact that i was told by earlier tonight right when in news first broke that by a source familiar with discussions inside the white house, that they did not expect in to be the political explosion that it was. and it was hard for me to even
believe that that was really the case. because it was so obvious. it doesn t take somebody like me or others here on the panel who are covered politics or you know have studied history to know that this is a really really big deal. but the way that it bore out as jeff has been reporting and taking pictures of the scramble that has been going on outside of the white house, in the dark, with white house officials trying to do damage control, and it s not as though this was an event that happened to them. this is an event that the white house did in and of itself. meaning, this is not like many, many times there is damage control that happens in washington because a force outside or an event outside occurs. this was something that was created by the president and the and the justice department. but you know the president himself is the one who said, you re fired, to jamestown
comey, the fact that they were not prepared for the fallout. we re talking about fallout. we re talking about the fact that this has not happened in this way since richard nicken s administration. talking about the fact that republicans is who are loathe to criticize the president like the senate intelligence chair richard burr putting out a statement and issuing a tweet saying he is concerned about this. that kind of reaction they were clearly not expecting mindboggling that s the case. gloria i want to bring in dana you may not have it because you were just mentioning burr. but jeff lake a republican from gloria peting out i was food trying to find a acceptable rationale for the timing of the firing and i just can t do it. it s not just democrat it s republicans as well. it is republicans. remember you know jeff flake was not a donald trump republican. but richard burr was a donald trump republican. and i think right now you know
the balance of power here is going to be really important. because we have to see how congress reacts to this. congress is going to want to investigate exactly what happened here. you don t fire your fbi director as he is investigating your campaign and russia hacking of the elections. just which willy nily. they re going to want to talk to comey i m sure. they were going to want to talk to jeff sessions i m sure and rod rosenstein who wrote the letter. let me say one thing rod rosenstein s long letter detailed a lot of complaints that a lot of democrats had about james comey, that he shouldn t have gone on on july 5th after he cheered hillary clinton and the email controversy and said, okay but she is reckless. and he shouldn t have sent that letter on october th and turned
the election upside down maybe that s why dan an the white house wasn t expecting this to be a disaster. that s exactly right. for them. but you know rod rosenstein doesn t speak for the president who at the time these events occurred was applauding them. so, you know. is this a firing in search of a cause gloria. well i think it s a firing in search of a rationale, right. and and the rationale here was provided by the deputy attorney general. but and the deputy attorney general i m sure believes it as do lots of other people in this country, democrat and republican. but i don t know that donald trump really believes what the attorney what the deputy attorney general wrote. because he was applauding comey when he said that hillary clinton was reckless. he would have liked to have seen her indicted, sure. but you know i don t recall him
complaining about comey s words at the time. yeah. and the president-elect also as a candidate applauding james comey at the time as well. and also as president as well saying he has taken some heat got a strong back bone pamela here is the really important question. comey was overseeing the russia trump investigation, fired by the people he is investigating now. so who is in charge what does it mean for the investigation. that is part of what makes this so extraordinary, don. as of ton the former deputy director of the fbi the andy mccabe is the acting director of bureau and the investigation is still being overseen by the deputy attorney general we were just talking about rod rosenstein, the person that recommended the firing of james comey to the president according to this letter. you know career fisher agents and prosecutors are still working on this case, still moving forward. they are issuing subpoenas as we
reported tonight. but of course something of this magnitude happening could have a chilling effect among the investigators as you know don there are frohhing calls particularly from exactic lawmakers for independent prosecutor to take over the investigation. and rosenstein has said previously during his senate confirmation hearing that he would indeed appoint a special prosecutor if if enact necessary. i wouldn t be surprised if you continue to see these calls. um-hum. pamela, you also have some reporting tonight. regarding grand jury subpoenas have been issued in this fbi russia investigation. what can you tell us about that. that s right we learned that just in the last couple of weeks federal prosecutorers have issued grand jury subpoenas to associates of former national security adviser michael flynn seeking business records as part of the ongoing probe of russian meddling in last year s election. the subpoenas represent the
first sign of a significant escalation of activity in the fbi s broader investigation that began last july into possible ties between trump associates and russia. they were received by associates who worked with michael flynn on contracts after he was forced out as director of the defense intelligence agency in 2014. robert kjell ner an attorney for flynn he declined to comment as to the justice dp, the fbi and the u.s. attorney s office. but you know just looking at the circumstances here just in the last couple of weeks you had the subpoenas issued to associates of president trump s former national security adviser. en and it s remarkable to think the man overseeing this whole investigation james comey has now been fired by the president. so that that information that you re giving now is exclusive information that you re giving. groeria i want to go back to something that you we talked about let s go over the letter from rod rosenstein deputy to attorney general now and going to be acting director. in the memo he points to the press kerns that comey held back
in 2016 during the campaign saying he wasn t recommending charges against hillary clinton. he is pointing to how the clinton investigation was handled. really. ? why are they point pointing that out? you got me. look, i think it s something rod rosenstein probably believes it was mishandled as do lots of other prosecutors. that was july of 2016 though. right. and i and i think a lot of people believe that that was a mistake it s not a prosecutors job to tell people why i did not diet somebody for example. he also went after him for his testimony last week on on why his choice between conceal or speak. but but you have to put this in a wider context. we are talking about now president donald trump, who didn t find anything wrong back then with comey s behavior, more
did he find anything wrong with the letter comey sent to congress, saying that he had to reopen the hillary clinton investigation. and so you have to wonder whether you know trump is saying donald trump is saying i want to fire this guy, give me give me the reasons here. yeah. i stand stsh shall have been stand by i want to bring somebody stand by you guys i want to bring in congressman elijah cummings. swal we chl congressman cummings start with you reaction to tonight events. well i m not surprised. it seems as if when miss yates appeared yesterday i said to myself, we re going to have a new issue tomorrow. and we have constantly seen don this movement of hoke us poke us when something gets close to the russian investigation, the next thing we know we moved on to
something another issue. but there is something that your guests don t seem to understand. one of the reasons why keep in mind comey came to our committee, oversight committee back in the summer and made the announcement how he thought hillary clinton was sloppy but he wasn t going to prosecute. i told him at that hearing. i said, they are coming after you. that is the republicans don t like what you re doing. and they are going to put you on trial. the thing that your guests don t know is that after that decision was made not to prosecute they basically the republicans on the oversight committee subpoenaed almost every single document in the fbi file. and i think that what happened with comey is that he came back later on closer to the election to make those announcements because i think he was contender that they would come after him. that s what i believe. but, again, i think the timing
of this is is horrible. i think i mean if we look at it, don, he the president treated flynn far better than he treated the fbi director. i mean the fisher director doesn t didn t even flow he was being fired. yeah. and while flynn had 18 days after the president even knew that he had lied to the vice president we ve got to get to the bottom of this. i think the fact that there is a grand jury and that questioning is now being opened up i think you re going to see a whole new escalation thereof case. i want to ask you going, congressman swal well i know both ever you congressmen have been privy to classified information and you know what s happening with the investigation. there is reporting tonight cnn and others as the washington post said reporting that the white house and the attorney general had pushed the fbi to pursue leaks rather than pushing them to pursue with the investigation was about and that
was possible collusion from the trump campaign with russia. did you know anything about that congressman swalwell. well don i hope that s notes case. our country was attacked by russia. there is a sowers fbi investigation going on into whether any u.s. persons were involved. to make that a priority over protecting our democracy would be a serious misjudgment. as far as firing fbi director comey, to the average american this stinks. the united states is a democracy. the president can t fire the person who is investigating him. that violates bedrock principles of independence. elijah cummings and i also wrote legislation to have a independent commission that s the best way to get to the bottom of what happened to make sure we never find ourselves in a mess like this again. your colleague ranking intelligence committee member put pout a statement saying the decision by the president have under the investigation by the
fbi fore collusion with russia to fire the man over the recommendation on the recommendation of the attorney general who has recused himsz from that investigation raise profound question base whether the white house is brazenly interfering in a criminal matter. congressman, do you see it that way and what is the recourse if so? jeff sessions should be noware near the firing ever director comey he was supposed to be recused remember he was supposed to be recused he was asked by the senate if he had any contacts with russia during the election. twice he said no we learned later because of press reporting he had. for him to be involved also raises questions on the judiciary committee where i serve i think we should have jeff sessions before us to explain just exactly why this was not just exactly why efts involved in this while he was supposed to be recused congressman cummings and go ahead, congressman. i m just going to say i agree totally with congressman
swalwell. i was shocked we had a letter coming from the attorney general with the workmen s. isume any any recommendation would be solely that of the deputy attorney general who i know quite well and i think the world of. he is he was our u.s. attorney here in maryland over ten years. rosenstein. but i think rosenstein now has a duty i think we re going to have to do two things. one i think we need to to have the independent commission as congressman swalwell and i put forward. but we also have to make sure that an independent counsel is appointed by rosenstein because some kind of way you basically have to have both one checking each other. i want to ask you dwresman about a little bit more about the deputy attorney general since i recommended in firing because of how comey handled the clinton investigation. pointing to comey s press
conference on clinton pointing to the letter before the election. but i want to you listen to president trump when all that happened. then we ll discuss. i respect the fact that director comey was able to come back after what he did. it took guts for director comey do make the move he made in light of the kind of opposition he had where they re trying to protect her from criminal prosecution. he has become more famous than me. so congressman, the president the didn t mind how it was alanda then so what changed? i think whenever. what change was that director comey. congressman cummings. i think whenever things are going going the president s way it s finite with him when they re not going with him it s not fine with him it doesn t say a rocket scientist to see this. that s why we have moved from one issue to another we will see that over and over again.
basically what we need in this whole process is integrity, transparency and if anything wants to see what transparency and integrity is all about, all we have to do is rewind the tape of sally yates and clapper yesterday. those are the type of public servants who make sure that we preserve this democracy and preserve our system of justice. congressman swalwell some republicans right now are saying well wait hold on a second director comey was disliked by democrats too nobody was happy with him what s your response to that. well with whether people were happy with him or not he came to congress in march and told congress and the american people that the president s campaign was under criminal and counterintelligence investigations. at that point unless director comey commit add crime he should have been untouchable that s the only way we could have an independent prosecution an independent search for the truth
by the fbi credible. and make progress. and now the president has violated that principal of independence and i m very concerned for our country. do you think we ll see a special prosecutor. don don one of the things we are missing here too is that it is not normal for one who is under investigation i practiced law over 20 years one who is under investigation or their associates under investigation to be doing things that stand in the way of that investigation. or saying things usually what i would tell my clients is we re going to cooperate with the authorities and move on. and not be constantly making comments. and i think that that s the way this should proceed. the president should not be involved in all of these tweets about how he doesn t think this is happening or that s wrong. let the process play itself out. yeah that was the opening to the show tonight that this is not normal for the person investigating this administration now fired by in
administration and by in president. quick kwek do you think we ll see a special prosecutor congressman swalwell. i hope we do. i hope we have an independent commission a special prosecutor and that that person is able to find the truth and do it with independence so that anyone that worked with russia is held accountable because our democracy is counting on it. thank you congressman. i appreciate it. thank you. and i want. my pleasure. any republican congressman anyone out wants to come you re welcome to come on even later on cnn we ll be live throughout the day throughout the evening i want to bring in cnn senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin and laura coats. you have said you have been very outspoken about in jeffrey toobin. yeses. do you think there is a cover-up heres in just beyond the realm for you. you know, i don t know whether there s been a cover-up. what there has been is a travesty. i can t speak to the ultimate
motivations of the president in why he did this. but the fact that he did this will disgrace his memory for as long as this presidency is remembered. there is only you know one- one day that will be remembered after january 20th so far in the trump presidency. and it s the day of the tuesday night massacre. in is the day that trump fired the head of the fbi. the only other time the head of the fbi has been fired was william sessions by bill clinton and that was politicly uncontroversial. so never in history have we had an fbi director fired by a president who was under investigation by the fbi. and it s just wrong. and it s obviously wrong. allen some are stay saying it a constitutional crisis for the president to fire the man investigating him do you grie with that. look i think there are four separate questions you have to ask. should comey be the director of the fbi? the answer to that is no. he shouldn t be the director.
he should have resigned on show i called for him to resign. he lost his credibility. second question is should it be the president of the united states who makes the decision to fire him? not while he is under an investigation. third and where i disagree with my friend and former student jeffrey, is who he appoints next if he appoints a man or woman of great integrity in date will not go down and remembered in history because we will have been proved i don t think that it was some kind of a cover-up if he picks somebody who can pursue the investigation. fourth how about an independent existing not a peshl prosecutor there isn t probable cause but a independent investigation not done by congress but done by people appointed by congress. they can then decide whether to appoint a special prosecutor or recommend a preshl prosecutor i think to separate out the four separate questions. announcer: as a hypothetical if he payments one. who is to say he wouldn t
fire them to a zblchlt preet bharara told he was going to stay, gone. james comey, gone. all three of whom had the potential to investigator and trouble the trump presidency. all three appointed by democrats all three appropriately replaced by a republican. but what we think. wait, wait. it was appropriately that james comey why do nef ten year terms. i think it s appropriate that he not be the director of the fbi. i think a lot of this is his fault. injury he should have resigned he should have looked in the mirror and said to himself i not trust the by democrats. i am not trusted by republicans. i am not trusted by the american public. and he should have resigned. yeah now he didn t and that s put the president. pick it back let s put the picture back up. the tlie people who are investigating this president are
the administration fired. yates was a hold overshe was going to go only a question of which day she was going to go and be replaced. generally the u.s. attorney is replaced. and comey, is a unique situation. he really messed up. he may have changed the results of an election. yates. he could not he could not be the head of the fbi with credibility. yates wasn t investigating but he was the acting attorney general. do you find this do you find this fishy laura sfla arrive absolutely i do this is obviously a figure leaf the president was looking for a reason to fire james comey. james comey guy him a reason everyone is focuseding on the fact he had a testimony back last summer as one of the reasons he should have been fired by nonattorney general lynch but last week s testimony gave additional reasoning. remember he had the opportunity to say whether or not he was wrong for having done what he did and whether or not his motivation was in furtherance of the credibility of the
department and of the fbi or whether it was some type of gratuitous task or journey for him personally. and the letter i saw today from the deputy attorney general i have to tell you a totally reading than we talked about my take is they were focusing on this particular point in time and comey s refusal to accept responsibility that he was in fact wrong don t get me wrong. this is still a pretextual reason but i walked right into the actual trap and grave guy are gave them the reason they needed. remember also he said my only choinss were either to speak or conceal. it showed a complete laps of judgment to recognize there was a very third obvious opportunity for him which was to follow the protocol of the department. and i have to say as a former prosecutor with the department of justice, he was wrong to usurp the role of the attorney general. and what he said was if you remember correctly he said i actually had the nerve to call the attorney general nonlynch
and say, i m going to have a press conference. but i m not going to tell what you it s about. that was insubordination and he renewed and provided a different and more comprehensive reason for that last week. so he walked into it. i think it was a bit of brafd o and a bit of his lack of foresight to recognize that he had walked into a trap. i agree with everything you ve just said. that is so rare but i agree with every single word you just said. i sure don t. go ahead. look, i think comey made mistake sns the hillary clinton investigation. i i agree on that point. but these were not it had nothing to do with his firing today. if he was going to be fired for his behavior with hillary clinton investigation he should have been fired on january 20th. plus there is currently an inspector general investigation of comey going on why didn t they wait for that? the only reason he is being
fired is because he is investigating the president. the whole hillary clinton thing is just pro post-errously irrelevant backup does anyone really believe that donald trump fired james comey because he was too mean to hillary clinton? absolutely not i don t think that and i think the question itself assumes the hyperbowl that i have not given i don t believe the reason that james comey was fired was because of simply the fact he was abusing his power last year. i think the curious dates here are when did rosenstein take offers about 14 days ago when did comey testify before congress again and really have the audacity to talk about why he thought he was still justified and had to come forward. you know six days ago now i m not saying it is relevant in terms of what i think they will come out as giving the comprehensive basis for why he was fired. that s what they re going to say. what i think actually happened was they were looking for a
reason and he gave enemy one. because he was ignorant to the fact that he had not honored his initial role as no longer being a prosecutor and the final arbiter but as somebody who am paraphrasing him to put on the cape when he was capped off by miss furious and frustration with lor eta lynch on the tor mack he said that was what capped it off for me ffrmt what capped it him for him was the he still believed he had the right and authority to act the way did he. he did not. here is the question we don t know the answer to. rosenstein s letter on its own is absolutely correct. rosenstein absolutely believes that he should be fired because of the way he handled the clinton thing. remember rosenstein is nonpartisan. the question is did president trump ask rosenstein to come wup that letter or did rosenstein come with the letter on his own and president trump said, ah-ha i have an independent man of great integrity saying i should fire him. i want to fire him.
and now i have the reason. i think that s the real question. what kim first the chicken are oh the egg. you know what his track record his track record here allen you make a good point. his track record here is somebody who has said when you talk about the travel ban and giuliani. i want tuesday something wrong figure it out a way to make it right and justifiable. now we have opportunity again i want to get rid of james comey give me a reason did he give you reason? that s the one we re going with. his track record makes this suspicious and justifiably so suspicious. he can eliminate the suspicion by appointing a terrific woman or man to be head of the fbi and agreeing to have an independent investigation. then what what jefferiry is speculating about although it may be true will be proved to be untrue by miss later axes. that s all after the fact though jeff. the timing is suspicious. my learned colleagues here my betters are overthinking this whole thing.
i agree with you. is that you know they wanted to get rid of this guy and they got rid of him. and hillary sessions well i mean i don t know i am baffled by rosenstein s involvement. you poe him. i don t know him well but i interviewed him i heard nothing but good things about him. do you think rosenstein just at this point just came up said you know what i think he should be fired especially considering his testimony yesterday. i don t know. we can. i don t know what rosenstein s role in all of in is. but there has to be some person in the united states government who could just open their eyes and say, you know, you don t fire the fbi director when he is investigating you. you don t do this because the only other time there s been a comparable event in all of american history is october 20th, 1973, the saturday night massacre when president nixon
fired archibald cox. that s the only comparable event somebody that that administration has to have said, you know, this is not going to look good. i think one of the most important things you said tonight jeffrey was sometimes the answer is the front in you the most obvious is answer is but sometimes more complex. sometimes but rarely. thank you all. president trump offering no further comment tonight after firing fbi director james comey but sending out. le counselor kellyanne conway who said this to anderson. the president himself skaus me is not the subject of investigation and most importantly are you talking about the folks who were involved in the campaign? yeah. okay well you said the people around the president. are you talking about people who were shall did dsh who were adviser. some of them may still be around the president. i don t know exactly who is
being investigationed there is ongoing investigation by the fbi. but again you want this to be about russia when this is about quote restoring confidence and integrity at the fisher morrell is low. you wanted this to be about restoring confidence in fbi but i m not sure many people believe this doesn t restore confidence in the fisher in fact a lot of people are raising questions saying it destroys people s confidence in the fisher about whoever the president may appoint is going to be in charge of an investigation into people who have been close to the president during the campaign. any potential collusion with russia. and today s actions had zero to do with that. i want to bring in a close confidante of president trump that s christopher rud ceo of news max news max testify zblap why tuning the president fired james comey. i think he made it pretty clear that he wanted to have someone he got a recommendation from a former clinton
administration justice department official rod rosenstein saying what he did as fbi director was not inconsistent with the neutral of the bureau he decided to act and ask for termination i think if the president did anything wrong was waiting this long. i think when he was inaugurated he should have asked for comey s resignation. and the reason is he had lost the confidence of both democrats and republicans. not only the hillary clinton email press conference, which is the basis of the rosenstein letter, but a lot of democrats if you go back you look at the clips, don, you ll see that they were calling for comey to resign because of the investigation he launched into hillary in the closing days. you agree that the timing by him waiting as you say he should have done it day one is that right. veshd it have done it earlier but i don t think he is wrong. it would have been better
served. doesn t you think the timing makes it look suspicious now. i don t think it s you keep making comparisons and other guests have on the show about watergate. that was the middle of a major investigation. i haven t made the watergate. but it s wg been going on throughout the night. and the truth is three times the director of the fbi told the president you re not there is no evidence. we know that director clapper has said there is no evidence. other officials disbelieved. testified of. collusion between the trump campaign and russias. that s the whole point of the investigation is not finished and also since you bring it up it was very strange thatted he said he would mention that in a letter that he sent out to the media and to the fbi. and actually to the fbi director notifying him of his. so everything we say is really have to be cleverly and carefully looked at one of the things you said earlier was that this was stopping the investigation. the president has not stopped
any investigation fbi investigation. i never said any investigation was stopped. by firing you mentioned earlier. i asked where does this leave the investigation not that it stops the investigation. there is no investigation that s been stopped so he is not acting to thwart anything. why is there anything spish if he was saying to the fbi close down your russian investigation, i think that would raise serious concerns but he is not saying that. i think the proof of the pudding here is going to be who he picks as the successor. and i think he will pick someone very bipartisan and respected and when they do that i think any questions but look the house and senate committees are investigating this. there is an independent investigation going on out of the justice department on this. so i don t think we really have anything to worry about. who might the person be that he is going to appoint. my god i don t know i m not in the legal law enforcement world i m sure there is a number of highly qualified people. i m sure with the scrutiny that s going to come with that. the president is going to if you look at all the choices the
cabinet that he picked largely for the government these are not a people they re a-plus people. she has a number of people on the cabinet very independent of him have great experience. i think people are not we don t have anything to worry here and i think that people are making a lot more out of in than they should be. ask i ask you something because there is concern because we ve been talking about the investigation where you say there is there is no evidence. you said there is no evidence thus far. correct. the investigation is still going on not that there is definitively no investigation until the investigation comes to a conclusion. there is also reporting tonight from cnn the washington post process l it says the white house and the attorney general have pushed the fbi to pursue leaks. the fbi did not want to pursue leaks. they thought the most important part of the story was the probe into russian collusion, possible collusion with the trump campaign. do you know anything about that? why would why would the president.
we know at a. be pushing the fbi or any agency to turn their investigation one way or another. well the president i think is frustrated he has talked to me about this in the past and he said it very publicly, that they want to investigate everything relating to his administration or to mike flynn but when there is clear evidence of classified conversations he had with world leaders clear evidence of other classified discussion that is yates had with counsels office all of that stuff leaked is in the press it s illegal chl no one self the press saying let s investigate that. is there not a separate investigation from in investigation. hur it may be but why is the fbi and others not interested in pursuing those investigations? but there really hell bent. do they have a leonard i would not know i m not with the fisher the media is not with the fbi. you look like an fbi agent. i ve been told that before but i look very official. wouldn t be the fisher have a
legitimate reason not to pursue leaks maybe they know something we don t or they don t think 80s viable investigation because leaks should not be investigated. well, they. without the leaks flynn would be there. without the leaks richard nixon. i think there s been a selective decision to only go after or look the other way at any leaks that are harmful to the trump administration and they re very focused on anything that a trump official may have done or somebody associatewood the campaign. there seems to be a lack ever fairness i think there is a lot of frustration the whole white house about how they re being treated here. i think the president made a good decision because there s been a cloud on the comey. you know if you go through all of cnn clips a lot of cnn people a lot of democrats were calling for his head. i actually thought it was inappropriate for him to come out a few days before the election and make a comment about an ongoing investigation of hillary s email. having said that that was part of the rationale that the we are told cnn is told
they didn t believe that the white house would be this fallout because they thought democrats would be on award did he really not think there would be this much fallout. i can t dwo into the mind what they thought would happen there was a lot of criticism of come in a lot of criticism of his testimony. a lot of people weren t thinking he was acting neutral way like director sessions or. no one accused them of the same degree of partisanship where he would like to talk about open investigations the way he did hillary s emails seemed inappropriate and rosenstein laid that out. have you spoken to the president since he made the decision. i have not no. do you think the administration feels feels that they are above the raw? absolutely not. thank you. you can go on. well i don t think interests anything they have done they re willing to what they do feel
that the enforcement of the law should be done on an equal basis if there is classified data being leaked out classified agencies including classified conversations with heads of state why drnt isn t that investigated by the bureau but something mike flynn said which i don t think was illegal that he talked about the trade sanctions with the russians i don t believe was a violation of federal law to begin with. i love having you hear but i have to go good questions for the bureau that i cannot answer because i m not in the bureau please convey to the president. can i be nominate you zblool he is welcome to come on any time sit down with him anyway thung chris. definitely do that. tlaung i want to bring in karen finishy karen is senior adviser and senior spokesperson for hillary clinton ace campaign what did you make of what chris ruddy had to say. great spin. i think the thing we need to keep in mind we think how
incompetent this has been how erratic this seems. the fbi director is involved in a lot more than just this investigation you know hillary clinton ace emails and the investigation into russia. think about counterterrorism think about any number of things. the fact that the white house did this without seeming to have someone or some candidate ready to go to replace him seems odd. it also seems odd that you know given the fact that we know that there is already an internal investigation by the inspector general at the fbi looking into this matter with comey, why not wait until the end of that investigation. so the timing i was i was joking with some colleagues in green room given how well sally yates did yesterday we should have expected this to something like this to come today. because i think it shows how far this president will go to change the headlines. it s very disturbing.
this is rod rosenstein he sent the letter to the memo to attorney general jeff sessions who by the way announced efts going to rekeyes him from the russia investigation or anything to do with hillary clinton as well. as you and i discussed he says i cannot defend the director handling fortunate conclusion fortunate investigation of secretary clinton s emails the director was wrong to ewe turp the authority on july 25th 2016 and announced his conclusions that the case shb christed without prosecution what do you say to that karen. what i say is that certainly was not the position of donald j. trump during the campaign and when this initially happened. he was praising comey. if he had real concerns about his behavior i guess the question i would ask the president so therefore do you agree that it was inappropriate for director comey to send that letter to congress 11 days before the election? i mean he certainly had no problem with that. let me point out one other thing, don. i love the fact that within this
document that roetsenants did he quotes and refrpss a document we put out from the campaign and he cites a former attorney general unthe bush administrationen a the fact that this that there were almost 10 oh other former officials. well that s a document that we actually put out from our campaign. so he is citing our campaign materials to make in argument. and again i think what we can t escape is the timing of this. we just can t you know underestimate what that means in terms of what was happening in the investigation. and the concerns that the white house may have had about you know who controls that investigation and i think you know think about just the chain of events here. so you know the assistant attorney general who sends this letter is the person who is in charge of the russia investigation. so he then sends a letter citing you know even campaign documents
from the hillary clinton campaign to jeff sessions, who you know as apparently misled congress to then send that to donald trump. i mean there is so much in here that is so suspicious and so suspect. i think what the trump administration does not yet realize is that what they bought themselves is an independent counsel and having been part of an administration where that happen. i can t imagine that any credible republican would deny that the only way to restore any kind of integrity here would be to have an independent investigation. all right karen out of time thank you i appreciate you copping we have more on the breaking news tonight the white house confirming president trump will meet with russian foreign minister lavrov tomorrow and now i want to bring in cnn global officer. historian john meech nam and julia kai yam and kevin madden. you said something i think david very important to me about this
decision. tonight by the president. what did you say about that? i don t understand the timing. i mean you just mentioned this meeting with laugh hoff tomorrow. it s sort of it s at least a political era if he is completely innocent. do you believe he will come to regret in decision. i think politicly yes he has relit the russia fire. again if he is completely innocent he is just gotten all the suspicion going. energized the democrats it s an unforced political error. listen the new thing we got now he is meeting with lavrov what do you think the foreign minister. they could wait, roll it out given comey notice. he is meeting tomorrow with the russian foreign minister. democrats don t trust donald trump maybe that s gnat fair to him but this is going to energize democrats raise suspicions. this is a huge issue there was a comment earlier about the leaks. process there was a story
reuters wrote about a conversation between putin and trump details about nuclear accords trump didn t know embarrassing information. this is a investigation into colluding with a foreign country to change the outcome of a presidential election. so much more grave than embarrassing details about a president s phone call. john, i want to bring you in now. the president firing the fbi director. who was leading the federal investigation into possible collusion wean his campaign and russia. i mean how does this look? i don t think it looks particularly good. and i want to win the understatement cooky for the week. look, no president has ever done this in exactly in way. president clinton let judge sessions go 24 years ago on a an ethics question. you know this is the one and algae that has already been well chewed over fwu has the virtue of being true, is that of president nixon.
president nixon fired archibald cox the special prosecutor in october of 1973. it was one of the most significant presidential assaults on the rule of law in our history. i think we re witnessing something akin to that. donald trump doesn t like he is a doory phrase here but important. divided sovereignty goes back to the greek city states the idea you have a rule of law and power is divided among different bodies so that you have a balance. balance is not what he wants. he wants control. and i think that s what we re seeing tonight. um-hum. i want to read something this was just tweeted by the president saying chuck schumer recently i do not have confidence in him james comey any longer then acts so indignant. kevin madden kefren what do you think of that? well i think that argument holds up for only a short period
of time. i mean it is true that democrats on capitol hill have vested that they have lost confidence in james comey. but that only answers one question which is why didn t the president then do it when he first came into office. and i think the there will be continue to be questions about why the president took this action now. now you rod rossenants lay out a rather cogent argument in miss letter today. but there are still remaining questions. and to go back to what john said, whether you re a republican or a democrat if you are firing the the fbi director who is leading the investigation into your campaign, that is not a good look. and, against a back drop of that investigation they re going to continue to be more and more questions there will be more and more calls. i think as chaotic as tonight feels we are only at the very genesis of the chaos of the decision. there will be congressional hearings called. see congressional calls for a
special prosecutor. they re going to have hearings for whoever the new fbi director will be. this is going to be a this is just the beginning. jason how could the white house know how could they not know that this would be a big story at the that the fallout would be what it is now. well i m not sure if that report was entirely for sure the white house would have known there would be significant amount of blowback from democrats. they re the same folks who are calling for the for president obama to fire comey last year and so i think president trump is right when he s calling out senator schumer. the only thing i want to say to the president he didn t call out the other senator who had issues. nancy pelosi had lost confidence in him. we had liberal columnists wanting him fired. i mean, this is i mean, look, don, nobody tonight
you can also think that it was nobody standing up saying james comey should still be in this job. people might have an issue with the timing and i think that s a debate. i agree with what kevin said. i would have done it on day one, and actually i think president obama should have fired comey last year. so there can be an argument about the timing. there is nobody standing up saying he should still be in that position. he lost the confidenced of v hi people. you would have been on cnn screaming to high heaven that this was some sort of political stunt by the obama administration. but look, the indecisive back and forth trying to director comey trying to rationalize what he was doing with the clinton investigation last year, he kplooed completely lost control of what he was doing and i think we need to get someone in there who s going to follow the rule
of law, who is going to take the fub and go do what they need to be doing and i think for all the people freaking out tonight, talking about investigations, look, this is not going to change anything about the investigation. did you proximate cause comey when he came out and said we have some information about the investigation? if you stay around long enough he s going to find a way to make everyone in town mad. so i m sure at a certain point i probably liked some of the things he was doing but this all adds up that he s out there trying to rationalize what he s doing. we need an fbi director who s going to enforce the rule of law. i m actually going to agree. nothing has changed since then. he made the decision. all he s done is come out to explain the decision that he s made, so nothing has changed with his decision making. he did it, you praised him and now you re saying that he should
go. there was plenty of criticism as well. senator graham hit the nail on the head when he said we need a fresh start in the fbi. but again, don, the point that i made when he came on board, nobody is standing up saying director comey should still be the director of the fbi. he should not be leading and i think that s why president trump removed him from this position. julia, go ahead. i will answer jason s question or about who will stand up. there are a lot of people who may have criticisms about how comey acted or behaved in the last come of months, both from the right and from the left. but there are very few people who find any justification at this present moment to fire director comey in the middle of an investigation. and just getting to the timing issue, to remind jason in the last 48 hours between the yates
end of course clapper investigation,some murmurings from the senate that they wanted information about president trump s financial dealings and of course now cnn s reporting about the grand jury that s a whole lot of reckoning for the trump white house. that has nothing do not interrupt me tonight, please. this is serious and it is nonpartisan. there is an investigation going on about whether the russians, let s remember who the enemy is, actually were influencing our election. that investigation has now led to specific investigations about people around trump and we have reason to believe based on cnn s reporting that involves flynn. so that is what is going on here and the firing the idea that this firing is somehow not only justified, but that the timing is justified discounts almost
all of the activity in the last three weeks that is heading toward serious allegations not against trump, but against his associates regarding either republican influence in the campaign or financial dealings with the republicans. so you cannot surround yourself now with some notion that because people from the right and left criticize comey that the firing of the person in charge of the investigation is justified. it does not hold. and so so julia, even you think i ve got to go. thank you all. i appreciate it. jon i want you to stick around. i want to bring in john dean a former nixon white house counsel. also jon is going to stay with us as well. what s your reaction to the breaking news tonight? well, it certainly is not saturday massacre two. it doesn t quite rise to that level. it is clearly botched as well. the white house did not handle
it well. they have acted in a way that raises the suspicions that you re hearing on your panel. they are widespread. i m hearing them on the radio and some people are confused about history and think this was another saturday night live or saturday night massacre, it was not. that was a unique situation where the prosecutor, the special prosecutor was doing exactly what the president had instructed him. he did not want done. they were each testing the other, and the prosecutor lost and they shut down the special prosecution office. that was the massacre. yeah. jon, since you mentioned that, this is from the nixon library. president nixon never fired the director of the fbi but he did fire the attorney general and the deputy attorney genre signed. will there be further fallout from this as kevin says? that s a great question and i think one of the things we have to figure out is to what extent what was the impo tus
for the events that led to today. there is the memo from the deputy attorney general, questions raised about when did that start, did someone in the white house ask for a pretext to get rid of director comey? if they did that, why did they do it in may and not in january. or at any point going back. and just a general point is there s going to be a lot of talk and there already is and the president just tweeted about this apparently about hypocrisy. hypocrisy is interesting but it s not dispositive in this case. the rule of law is dispositive and there are reasonable people asking very reasonable questions about whether the president of the united states has something to hide in terms of the his campaign and potential collusion with russia. he has dismissed that. he has called it a ruse.
he s called it fake news and what he s used to is when he makes a declaration like that we re all like fourth graders, we chase the ball to the other side of the field. i think we have to do everything we can at this point to stay in position. i asked chris ruddy who is a friend of the president, if they feel that they are above the law. he said no. what do you say? well, you know, i don t think they are deliberately trying to flout the law here. there s always been a question to me with this president of a lack of experience, and not really understanding the job and not bringing in peopl works. this could have all been avoided, don. they certainly all all they had to do is look at history and see how easy it would be to replay what they re getting tonight, so things that might be going on. one is a possible sinister motive, but we don t know that. we don t have those facts. the other is incompetence, which
is if there s not a sinister motive is the other alternative. are you troubled by this? very much so. am i troubled? jon? very much so. i think that it s i think they wanted a result and they found a pretext for it. and i think that we have a real question going forward about the separation of powers. and the rule of law. and i i haven t been someone who s, you know, thrown myself in with tauthoritarian narrativs but this is not a step in the right direction. a serious question that was quickly here, staff writer for the new yorker said where are comey s files right now? who controls them. that is important. it is indeed. what would happen in a circumstance like this is very much unlike what happened with

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Transcripts For DW DocFilm - The Other Jerusalem 20171213 01:15:00


a jewish settler claims that he is showing us something that no one else has seen but not even a knesset member he says. it s just. jerusalem mean city of peace we learned that thirty five years ago when we first came to this strange place. it s located between the merits. uranian and the dead sea surrounded by valleys and dry river beds the city rises up to the temple mount. it is a home for all of the three major religions of the world judaism islam and christianity . was. here that jesus entered jerusalem as king to shouts of his santa here jesus healed the blind and it was here he was
crucified. jerusalem houses two of the holiest small asks for the muslims al aksa mosque and the dome of the rock where mohammed ascended to heaven on his white horse. and it is here or judaism originate it here lies its holiest site the western wall on the site of the first temple built by king solomon. it s all here. life should be pleasant here one dares to imagine. but the pleasure is deceptive. jerusalem is
a city of war and destruction. jerusalem has been a contested city throughout history and still today the city is a political powder keg. for israel jerusalem is its historic capital while for the palestinians it is their future capital. the situation has been rapidly to tear. orating we have felt it ourselves during the last two years. many books have been written about this strange place. dr mer margolese historian author and politician has a bow to his life to this divided city he is worried about the legacy of the jewish state. and playing good to several in the same single.
why. nobody in the government into me to really realize the deep feeling of mediation. that palestinians feel you should stick to the the role of the dignity in the palestinians for them is just a matter of balance and criminals that s the reason why the police took control of the city immediately it was controlling against the kings of the city to the police he given to seek mismanagement by the police. yeah.
close to damascus gate we need counselors ziad al homily. many people have told us he is the last hope for many palestinians in jerusalem. in the in this war. they don t give up for peace in. the world. and the only. ship at the start of the of it bothers us so whether it was the. yeah. yeah. there are the around. that will get it. good.
masculinist of it no less to live here resident this is about this facility and i think that the real bit of the things she s. interested in this is. for them to be aware that they re very young and the other about the bush did it. because she added i said the system over the heads of us i haven t yet had the pleasure to develop of it yet i ll send it said it had a little doubt the other day with him so much better than this one yet i feel as the other of a bad boy well off the drug problem doesn t matter but seven billion with a man i ll call up whatever the other element of. truth. for the good of. mission in. the woods is not. you know.
she s a sweet olds and others and the. owner is in a good shape. and if the shit be that me in a church. it s the end of the. insurance. who can get a mincha. it will pay. when ziad is not in his office he is on call twenty four seven for every new trauma. you know this is god also and of course that is the father. ziad
organization the jerusalem center for social and economic rights provides reports for the e.u. and the other international bodies on the situation in east jerusalem and. every assyrian family has own story. it. exhibition is closed and. we are to cry we are shouting we are doing it within to let all the wall of the stand that we don t want that his vision we don t want the cube asian we want one that if they should. come. in one nine hundred sixty seven israel. said war with its arab neighbors on the seventh of june israel seized
control over the entire west bank including east jerusalem and the old city was. too much. for me sixty seven was one of the most powerful years life has treated a self to war started we we get to read information from israel and then we discover that for four hours it was a miracle that the david and the goalie it east really beats the happens again and and did for us it it was a. deplorable that. yes you are a strong country strong people and that all of us. was
. created through us because deep. under home we re so naive to seeing so that the territories where hand that know our lives here that the we never ask ourselves what to put relation that leaves in these territories our thinking about ok could barone we have brought these spark of our easter but they are palestinians living to do we never ask over safe what they think about. it was on the civilians or all of the success of them. was an early warning of course we have that the war started if. you get
a number. all the way. any. of us it. just was together me and my mother my father was in the city. there was because of course no interest at the time there was what he said this week from the soldiers assuming of course. you know that there were killers. i left the house and i came here no. there are from some thanks derrick s without any signs or not then i tried to say hard for the facts then one
of the soldiers who saw me i thought relieved it s arabic. like you know what they re about but suddenly this guy who saw me then he shoot at me and i was back home to the garage all the families and all the neighbors. i think if he didn t want to kill. me shortly. afterwards most. everybody was thinking it s there and the thought of some modest. acupressure in the room and nobody thought that the think that you. east jerusalem used to be under jordanian rule. israel s capture of east jerusalem in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven removed the green line that had separated the city since one thousand nine hundred eight the year that israel was founded. later on israel made
a highly controversial move and annexed east jerusalem it was done against international law. and it changed the course of history. with. time it is a local hero in so wanted. he had quite a turbulent you re right and today is still a rebel well that s it. he dares to stand up and defy the authorities but it is not that he has nothing to lose yes to fight for his property family and for his livelihood every. day. he had upset at. this madness going for the fun last hadn t gotten in the safe in a. minute he went out going in the. images and for the rest of it i was
a cunt and all thought if we don t look at that eventuality. then to sheffield out of a list and. i thought of it hadn t i left it at the deal as of about. it only got a movie called you a liberal on it at the apostle to. check and i ll be off. that everybody in for the. fall of the wash it do you know what either well like i haven t had given the way it was either said the fact. that the us that when it does a lot. the first time finance house was demolished was in two thousand and thirteen. the authorities destroyed it as it was built after nine hundred sixty seven. we did not realize at the time that this was just one of the pretexts that would be used against him. demolition orders are hanging over him like
a sword of damocles. of a bit of. a bit of the if this good. you ll be able to buy a new head of it but at the he s out on the air but i m sick of all the shit out of these. other examines this mess while a swath of going to heaven had to have a little boy and have it does apply never saw one of them up thought no doubt the father brought him into that us we re going to. be almost all for me. a bit of the dump on a whole lot of it just like. it that. every time we go to see how he has
a new project going he refuses to sit down and rest he s always on the move. with. siwon is time leds birthplace southeast of the old city walls and in the shadow of the al aqsa mosque. this is a palestinian neighborhood a place of densely packed houses mostly built without agreement to. all of the components of the bitter struggle between israelis and arabs i condensed within salaam. today it feels like the core of the volcano. one kilometer east of highlands land is the israeli settlement mali has a.t.m. . here lives are eking. often flawed but by the name of the state not of him leaving not come up with the
hook but should become able to move forward on a. more limited because of it. ari is a passionate settler and a politician whose family moved to israel from england in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven his family first lived in a gaza settlement but later on he moved to east jerusalem. his mission is to claim land in the city that holds deep historical significance to all religious jews. the out day a million hundred families living here where we stand a good look on the temple mount and all the old city. unique sport with a unique view no doubt that in under the earth there would be tens of thousand of the jews there here. and believe we will buy more and more in situ on
properties from our roads they would sell because they want to sell to chew with and more jews would move the why would they want to sell because they want money. they simple. white people are sitting in stock or more in line or floor in the london or in paris because they want money and they want might be to improve the quality of life so that the still here and they move to somewhere else or they move or together from the area. i live will not sell his land. he never carried out the mission as he was ordered to do. instead the municipality took care of that kind of sixpence in november two thousand and fourteen after the thirty day warning expired. the bill goes up and the office i want to go to the book i do on this board is who is living
a good one or how the whole. thing was was. that stuff that. i live in an occupied city live in a city that forty percent of its residents don t have equal rights are not citizens i have to do something about it especially because i have a huge amount of privilege i come from the oppressing side of things i benefit from their question and i think i have a moral responsibility and that. was. that it all it was
a war. that the heart abiding is an israeli activist she pays the price for it. she is one of the very few who chooses to between the two societies she even goes to so why. one of the main issues and one is an archeological site called the city of david that is a governmental archeological site the government should be running it and yet they let the private n.g.o.s. settler organization that publicly says that their purpose is to judea is the surest and that s what the leaders have been saying they let them run that are killing and it s the only or killer in the country this depravity
that is run by the state. was really. that it was. the. one you re the one that fell just to know what they re going to fight on the what do you do that in the going to down the road and what that even weeks came back with the station to even though if you re one of the best places to explain it it s the end of an education it s a school it s called the gandhi or it s already monday what if you can shop for the kind of the range it is to live in jerusalem without understanding the city of david. so jerusalem
a city of david we see through our own being through rounded with mountain the controlling the city. we have everything we all here is that is this jew the tend to feel they belong to jerusalem. the city of david is a popular tourist spot in jerusalem. the united nations and the international community consider the site to be a settlement as it is built on land occupied by israel in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. everything is still going to come through this is maybe somewhere around three thousand years ago. from somewhere near king in this he was standing in the foundation for he didn t sound good and he does david said you know it s palace. at the moment we have. zero.
here he was. looking right. follicle. posting first for him. right. when we stand here i m missing just one thing and see the temple. because knowing and believing that he threw abbeville the temple built i m sure would like exactly like doing the time of the first temple the second temple. it s where bring . real peace. and peace to the city and peace between the people and peace to the whole legion. see the flag still to be this is fill the flag waving flag it s my house i live in the internet i ses but it s new and it s new it s a new label. now most of the few jews in the. south part of the
land but we are working real working and all the crew make all of this is one nice united. tourist area where you can feel comfortable to leave feel david and to go into the streets it s a nice to. plan is to extend the city of david. through. k.-k. k.-k. . through an hour. archaeology and green politics are central to the israeli occupation of east jerusalem. where. we meet she lives in the quarter of so was her house is
marked for demolition. abandonment movie. and we are almost a month far. in who lindsay had to range young to be the most money and we re going on this everything in this city is not just adults it was. the mother heartland this may be. we haven t been sucking the banks it s mostly the not a bit of history in the center of the. country that you cannot put the show man show man the motor city son of sr so you need the money adequately. not a common. problem becomes. the hans. booth. i says and no is a big deal made that we had to open our coffee on
a how to care don t miss it but almost all of us are producing one or you know. we have a good number which is amazing it s feet planted close to the mission. it seems that there is no limit of. collective punishment from. your service to those ghosts to the same old to the city this is the idea not to shame. leonard he says he didn t have choices i want to leave the city you leave. two months later we are back in so long and tension is rising will look
a lot more. so hard is really at last is here to attend a palestinian public prayer and show solidarity with the protesters. the gathering is a protest against the constant house demolitions and new israeli settlements and so one of. every kind of practice organizing a bunch of people standing together will bring police. at this time they can decide to actually do it. or not. it s usually helpful that they see that there is very basis that they re in with a camera and kind of like in any kind of monday morning what situation is it kind of feeling that i m watching but you never know. ziad is here as well to check and to report about the tense situation and the protests are planned for every friday a machine because. i m sure the morning every
day i would have border police wasn t here there will be no one throwing stones or you know i m a criminal many farmers along the hamas our machine with. the palestinian mayor of so on is very upset during the prayers a new house demolition order was delivered. at about thirty two people was leaving here on this house i m talking whole families. when did the morning before a week ago. what did that mean that s bad. today where we was praying praying for a shot there and give it to him about this. yeah if you will dawn this story. we re gonna come and destroy you go ahead we re going to be on the back of my mind i want to. be going to. plan. b.
if you want to build you have to be roughly between forty and fifty thousand dollars for just the license and sometimes we never get this license. the demolition in the name of don t. add something without the license from town but i mean. you ll find one or more of their income from coming here but here but do you. live in mansions. like. this in happily about fifty people from their houses and taking over the houses it also comes in a wider political context if there is a strong enough jewish presence in these neighborhoods then there is no separation jerusalem palestinians will never agree to a separation of tristen without access to the old city so if you take over the ring
around the old city that s it game over there is no division of jerusalem there is no two state solution there is no state of pounds. the. in one thousand sixty eight israel declared a national holiday to celebrate victory and the six day war jerusalem day. when we were here thirty years ago this was a small thing. today it s much more political and some thirty thousand demonstrators are marching. up. the the. that bridge or are they going to. win a was.
very small. activist and informed to new one thousand and nine thousand of right when there is this donate a saloon that was coursing through. and now a new all with the knowledge and the family and the warst fields history of the peace. was the. law that. the world is missing one thing. and this is out forgot. it s written that big deal in the baking bit. and the whole army of god told us. it did but feel like
a little i mean. and the end of god was upon the properties each year and he brought him from babylon to jerusalem and placed him on a high. day he was shown a vision of the future temple that will bring peace and harmony to the world. in the vision and angel spoke to easy kill and sit son of man pay attention to all the time about to show you in. each to the house of israel the angel took easy kill through the entire temple measured its chambers and called charts its walls and it s against. the mosque that they built on the dome of the rock would be to take down nobody would notice you moved it twenty meters north nobody would notice and where i am looking forward to see. the temple. you
must miss yanni or something crazy because they believe that the reason why they must see us doesn t guns is because the church temple is not there where they don t have their old ways you know there are two must see yes they do come they should it collapse did almost iraq and then. from here even directly to this didn t map or always did it yeah it s in described exactly which would be what the size of. the high conflict would be a mistake is it s not that we would be size written it s very thin and have you started climbing you ve. got people already planted on top of the talks with
already planning. the planning it s talking about. it s not the never. going to listen. let s look. at. it. in the middle so. that the shelf off some place there s. just. nothing left but. what would you want me to say that s all that i left mr. i don t
. understand an astronaut who. love their image appreciate. that it s not all that much. about theatre. and i love that here that it has been there was that alice and i that i said to her that this love had to have know that the fullness of the love the. letter that right now but the but. the citizens said if they d been in the middle of. the city any of them and then i was there that it would know that the high school would get the one hundred fifty people wounded if you go before a few go but if you re going to go i have been here for a while that i may be in good by then he has been. at it.
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