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Type of circumstances because the tornado itself and those conditions can rapidly expand like it did and become a huge wedge tornado and if you get too close to it, you could get hit by it. and simon, i know michael bettis, mike bettis also talked today on morning joe about rethinking this and said, when bill karins asked him, you know he said i m going to talk to my family. if my family wants me to wrap it up, that s what i ll do. your thoughts? well, i mean every person, every chaser has to make that decision on their own. really, like the tornado that we encountered on friday, wasn t necessarily, i mean it was a very intense tornado, capable of probably causing ef-4, ef-5 damage. but it like we could be dmeer that tornado and other circumstances and the storm itself would not be as dangerous as the storm was on friday. what made friday very dangerous
0 lowered to half staff, honoring new jersey senator frank lautenberg who died this morning at the age of 89. the last tworld war ii veteran in the senate. lautenberg was a powerful driving force on domestic issues from smoking an airplanes, the environment and gun control. who is who favor gun ownership, put that aside and stand up for the safety and the well-being of our citizens. john kerry remembering his former senate colleague today. frank was a remarkable legislator and just a tremendous human being. he was someone who fought and won a lot of battles that today people just take for granted. $50,000 for line dancing lessons? another embarrassment for the irs. but as oversight chairman darrell issa now gone too far when he goes after jay carney? the administration is still, their paid liar, their spokesperson, picture behind. he s still making up things about what happens and calling this local rogue. this is a problem that was coordinated in all likelihood right out of washington headquarters. is eric holder s job on the line? john mccain on morning joe. should eric holder resign? i can t tell him to do that. but he ought to ask himself if he s really helping the president of the united states now. but americans will forgive, but they want to move on. but they want to place responsibility and then move on. hold on, hold on. everybody duck, go, go, go. and the eye of the storm, terrifying moments for the weather channel s mike bettis. tragically, elsewhere in the state three other storm chasers did not survive. more on the dangers of the hunt, coming up. and good day, i m andrea mitchell live in washington, lawmakers mourning the loss of a fellow senator who made a major contribution during his time on capitol hill. new jersey senator frank lautenberg passed away after complications from pneumonia. his legislative accomplishments span decades and have impacted nearly every american. joining me to take a closer look at the life and legacy of frank lautenberg, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and nbc capitol hill krort, kelly o donnell and justice correspondent pete williams with major news coming from the supreme court. that in a moment. first to lautenberg, kelly o donnell, this is a big loss for people on the hill in both parties. not only was he accomplished, but he was well-liked. frank lautenberg has been a real gentleman around here. we were commenting what a kind, friendly person he has been. and when you look at people who have served in the congress for a very long time, some of them have prominence because of their opinions and some of them have prominence because of some of the things they do in terms of being big personalities. frank lautenberg was a quiet man who actually got a lot done legislatively. which we don t always see. he worked very hard in some areas that matter in people s everyday lives, he dealt with issues like tobacco, he was the one who was behind getting smoking off airplanes. he did a lot in the area of bringing down the legal level for drinking. on the highways. he did a lot in the area of gun control. and i remember being in the chamber not long ago when there was the background checks vote and it was the last time we saw him here in the senate and there was a big stirring of applause and emotion when he came into the chamber, aided by some of his staffers to cast that vote. he was a real voice on issues related to gun control. a democrat from new jersey, the last of the world war ii generation in the senate. there are still members of the house who served in world war ii. he was a quiet man with a big presence and he will certainly be remembered around here. andrea? not law enforcement, police can go after dna. when someone has been arrested, but not convicted. tell us the implications there. all the states take dna from people who are convicted of crimes. and what they want to do is take that dna from known people and check it against the national database of dna samples at scenes of unsolved crimes to see if they can get a hit and solve those cold cases. the case today was whether the police can do that with someone who has merely been arrested, but not convicted. and today, by a 5-4 vote, with an unusual line-up of justices, the court said yes. justice kennedy joined by justice breyer and most of the court s conservatives said normally you need a search warrant, you need probable cause to think someone has committed a crime. but this is different, because number one it s the best way to tell who that person is. people can alter their appearances, they can even try to change their fingerprints. dna has unparalleled accuracy, the court said. and secondly, you want to see if a person has a violent crime in their background that perhaps should say they should be denied bail and not released pending trial. well, a blistering dissent written by justice scalia and joined by the other court liberals. he said that the court has never before approved a search, which is what this is, for general crime-serving processes and he said, make no mistake about it, even though the court s opinion today had to do with taking the dna for people arrested for serious crimes, he said there s no logical reason that the police can t take the dna from anybody arrested for anything. a traffic stop, anything. and he cites statistics in his opinion, his dissent, saying one-third of all americans will be arrested by the time they re 23 years old. so he said it is a huge affront to liberty. he said he can t believe the founding fathers would have presented their cheeks for swabbing by the king and that s how the dna samples are taken, by swabbing a cheek. so a very divided court here today, andrea. divide and the divisions are not predictable divisions. this still leaves a lot of big cases, we re talking about the affirmative action case, what is else is on the docket? the two big cases involving same-sex marriage. the question of the voting rights act. whether states have to get preclearance. and a big case on whether companies can patent human genes, so all of those plus as you mentioned, affirmative action by a public university still to be decided. the next decision day will be next monday. we will be there. you ll be there, thank you very much. pete. and the white house standing by, its embattled attorney general. but there are reports the president s political advisers are not 100% behind eric holder s handling of the leak investigations and other issues. new york times correspondent peter baker joins us. peter, let s talk about eric holder and what you re hearing, you and your colleagues of the times, from inside the administration, or from former administration officials, in terms of what he needs to do now to try to get on top of these issues. he wanted to leave or he would have perhaps wanted to leave, but on his own terms. is there a scenario where he can get back into a position where he will be leaving on his own terms? it s hard to see in the immediate future, obviously, he did want to leave on his own terms at the end of last year. end of the first term. he thought it was the time to go, but he decided he would stick around for a while longer, maybe a year, try to get some things done, try to get some distance between himself and some of the controversies. so when he did leave, he left on a high note, on his own terms. that obviously doesn t seem to be the case where he s at right now and you can imagine months ahead of discussion about the handling of the leak cases. and other issues that have dogged him along the way. but you know it s possible at some point he gets to move past that. some of the president s advisers remind us that you know, this is washington and these things come and go and people can, can move on after a number of months when the spotlight has moved someplace else. and what about the irs, i mean this is just a continuing, exploding controversy over the irs, because it s not only their targeting now, it s the money that they spent on these conferences. what conceivable purpose would they be teaching line dancing to irs employees? that s a good question. obviously other than the fact that they really need to learn how to dance a little bit better. i would not be anyone to give them the lessons myself. but i think that you know in and of itself it could be a tempest in a teapot. but the fact that it s the irs coming on the heels of the controversy involving the tea party scrutiny certainly magn y magnifies it, it suggests an agency that is somehow a little out of control. whether that s fair, that s the impression that s being given and certainly the way people on capitol hill are going to look at it. as they continue these hearings into what s going on in that agency. and finally, we talked earlier about frank lautenberg. but this does become a political issue. because chris christie will get to nominate his replacement. so presumably there will be a republican in that seat for the time being, until, would this be until a special election? i don t know what the new jersey rules are. whether it s a special election or just until the mid term. that s a good question, i don t know the rules this he are having a general election this fall in new jersey for governor and other offices, so you can certainly imagine that would be an object opportune time for the state to do it what chris christie himself will want to do is the open question of course. just a week ago he was appearing with president obama on the jersey shore. repliesing their sort of bipartisan bon homie of the hurricane sandy last fall. but his own conservative supporters, if he s going to run for president in 2016 are going to want to see him put a strong republican in that seat. if he has an opportunity to and this could be a real test for him. thank you very much. good to see you. frank lautenberg has announced his second retirement from senate back in february at home in patterson, new jersey. he told the crowd about what the experience of being a legislator has meant to him and ultimate generations. from these streets i went to the halls of congress. and my message to young people in the room this is a country where dreams are possible. you re looking at it. we see it all the time. and we have to continue to provide that incentive. i honest, and i honestly didn t think i would ever quit. 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