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and we, me, will not let you down. accountability is coming, i promise. >> and take a look at this video our team shot in lukeville, arizona, yesterday afternoon. more massive crossings with predominant african men coming in, molly, library and some of the countries we -- we encountered. and a man was baking border patrol for a breach and some reason he had a new york state i.d. card in his hand he was holding. take a listen to this exchange. >> please, please my brother. please. may i help you? >> and you can see the i.d. card in his hand right there. we don't have any information how we headed, why he had it or if it is fake. you can see he was standing near the border wall with other men hoping to come in. that man may have crossed illegally in a different area.
it all. harvard corporation said it accepted her resignation with sorrow. the "new york post" editorial board says the board that covered for claudine gay must go, too. three university presidents at that december 5th hearing, two now have resigned. the other one was mcgill of the university of pennsylvania. she is gone. now claudine gay is gone. harvard alum and billionaire former mega donor big ackman posts this. a reference to mit and the latin for you, too. molly line with more from cambridge, massachusetts. molly. >> good morning, harris. not everyone is happy that harvard president claudine gay has resigned. gay's tenure was historically brief but also barrier breaking. she was the university's first
rick and charlie. charlie, this is not surprising. what does surprise me is the nature of the argument that they are making as marc elias just laid out for us, the fact that they front loaded this with procedural off ramps. they didn't really get to this question of whether or not donald trump did in fact participate in an insurrection. >> no, look, i have not had a chance to read this and i'm not a lawyer, but inevitably this was going to end up in the u.s. supreme court. and i'm very sympathetic to the argument. i am skeptical of how it is going to play out. donald trump was the architect of an attempt to violently overturn a free and fair election. if that is not insurrection, i don't know what is. i do think it comes under this amendment. however, i think the chances of the u.s. supreme court removing him from the ballot disqualifying him, i think that is a very, very small one. and i think the people ought to keep their expectations somewhat
people were, like members of congress. so, i'm hoping they'll take a more fulsome approach to it. >> i want, if you're willing, molly and jason, to zoom out here, because these efforts to bar insurrectionists from 2024 election ballots, it is spreading beyond just donald trump, pennsylvania congressman scott perry now facing a lawsuit, seeking to keep his name off the primary ballot, citing the insurrection clause of the 14th amendment, the lawsuit filed by a pennsylvania activist argues that perry's actions around january 6th, trying to use the doj to help the ex-president show his involvement in the insurrection, should disqualify him from running for office. congressman perry has not been charged with a crime, but he is the only member of congress whose cell phone was seized by the fbi. last month, a judge ordered perry to turn over thousans of texts and emails to fbi agents.
let me talk about all the great things i've done. i wouldn't worry about getting ahead of whatever lie donald trump comes up with next. i would want to get ahead of what are the ever narratives are that exist within the people, people who are upset, people who say joe biden is too old, people who say he hasn't done enough, get ahead of those concerns because if joe biden satisfies those people, donald trump will continue talking to the same little coffee class he's always talked to and lose again. because it is not that many people. but joe biden has to galvanize the people who have already benefitted from his presidency. if he can't do that, yeah, trump will be in office and we'll all be in trouble. >> my understanding, molly, having listened to the biden campaign talk about their intent, talk about the stakes of the election is that there is sort of a duality to what they understand they need to do. they need to go after this, start off the new year focusing on the stakes, on dark days of american history, on a brighter future that's ahead. he also has to do the more perfunctory thing of touting the accomplishments of his
policies against bullying -- >> does that speech not cross that barrier? does that speech not call for the genocide of jews and the elimination of israel? >> now claudine gay is stepping down after backlash of that and the plagiarism she's been on the job six months and two days. dave rubin and robert wolf are standing by. first to molly line. she's live for us in boston. molly? >> trace, some of the calls for resignation predate that testimony, but today harvard president claudine gay made it official. she's announcing her resignation saying to the university that she made the decision with a heavy heart. adding it's in the best interest of harvard for her to resign. writing amidst all of this, it's been distressing to have doubt cast on my commitments to
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