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should lock her up. she's it's disgraceful honestly it's disgraceful. lock her up is right. you shouldn't lock them up lock up the lock-up. hillary so of course he's dying. he said all that he ran on that and in the same interview, he issued another veiled threat about what might happen if he's sentenced to jail time or home confinement for the 34 felonies the jury convicted him of i don't know that the public would stand it i don't i'm not sure the public would stand four with a house arrest or i think i think be tough for the public to take, you know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point joining us now is former arkansas governor and former republican presidential candidate is a hutchinson governor. appreciate you being with us. what does it say as far as the republican party is concerned, being a convicted felon is no longer considered a disqualification agent for the presidency. >> and your former prosecutor yourself, do you believe the federal government has weaponized against the gop? why
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[ ♪♪ ] >> jesse: democrats tried to knock out trump with 34 counts was 35 is in going down that easily. former president trump getting our hero's welcome with the ufc fight of the weekend, 48 hours after getting convicted. his campaign joining tiktok cat gaining of millions of followers. and then he went on a fox and friends a weekend make this declaration. >> mr. trump: my revenge will be success, and i may not. but it's awfully hard when you see what they've done, judge could decide how stressed or jail. how do you face -- >> mr. trump: i'm okay with that. is that one of my lawyers the other day television saying no you don't want to do that, i said we don't beg for anything. our know if the public will standard, in think it will be tell from the public to take. mr. newport is a breaking point. >> jesse: trump also turning
we didn't have masks are stockpiles had been depleted the public was deceived over and over again. >> we couldn't do the testing. >> we needed, we rely on other countries for critical data and despite that, now all these years out 4.5 years out, we still have not had a substantive bipartisan look at why and a country that that in the year before, in the year before the pandemic started, the us was rate it to be the number one prepared country in the world. how we could have gotten it's so bad, right? >> i mean, you think back to those pictures, those nurses and doctors wearing i think it was nurses wearing plastic bags because they're ppe bryn garbage bags? yeah, they'll garbage bags. >> it is. i mean, it is inevitable that there will be another pandemic. i mean, it's just whether it's a year from now or 20 years from now, or 30 years from now unless we learned the lessons and lots of
pursue their own indictments. >> we mock your fear. we want your fear. it's going to be accountability. we're going to hold everybody responsible that put this republic in the situation it's in today. >> we want your fear. we want your fear. arrest democrats. put a wall around new york city. that is how conservative media is reacting to the fact that a former president was tried in front of a jury of his peers and found guilty. and for all that that says about who we are as a country and the challenge that we are facing right now as a constitutional republic, this is also a clear marker about this next election, right? i mean, this is what one side is offering the public. so for everything else that says about us, honestly, if the democrats and liberals could not make something out of that being the character of the opposition this year in this election, we're in deeper trouble than i thought. watch this space. r trouble than i thought. watch this space
side and even moderate new public side that the rule of law has prevailed and that they may not be able to vote for a candidate who, who performed as he did. >> it's interesting though, like when you're in it, it feels very hard to imagine going back to the gop of ronald reagan or the time when people were disagreeing, or when, when moderation or compromise was not a dirty word. >> but you know, that's what always happens. we're living in the time we don't know the ending of our story. the people in the civil war couldn't if imagined what it would end with emancipation secured and the union restored even the early days of world war ii, people couldn't have imagined the allies would win the war and democracy would prevail. they didn't know the end of their story. we don't know it, but somehow we've gotten through these dire times before i still keep coming back to history. history will help us by giving us, because it because i believe it, i forget. we've all been through this before. there had been, these are cycles that repeat. we've all been here
some of these things the government was asking to the public we were also believers that this thing could have emanated from with his lab. this is not make you feel good about your argument -- >> jesse: yes, it does! revive as editor three years ago. >> jesse: dana preferred the squirt gun communion, christ to the mouth from 6 feet away was a way to go. i requested jesse genia get baptized via squirt gun they deny that aggressive. but fauci is it lt and he showed -- he shuts debt -- he shut everything down because they greg he's a older. and covid-19 affected the elderly more, under 50 not as deadly so he freaked out because as aside he was guilty because you funded and trained that, we knew what was going on in the lab and it was a sloppy lobster broke out and then he scrambled and tried to get everybody to lineup and deny its. remembered the only way to pay about this, it came from a bat and had nothing to do with the lab? gray paper here is $9 million.
haro folded junior and greg gutfeld, it's 5:00 a new york city, this is 'the five'. [ ♪♪ ] it's monday and here we go again, hunter biden about to leave the court house in wilmington delaware, the jury selected an opening statement starred tamara as his comeaux gun trail kicks up in my country is charged with three felony counts related to lying on a gun form back in 2018, he could be facing up to 25 years in jail. hunter getting a show of public support of them as family, his stepmother first lady jill biden appear in court today, this weekend president biden was at his beach house spending part of the day biking with hunter, the new york times claims he is expected to speak daily with his son and today, president biden released a statement saying as a present i don't and won't comment on pending federal cases, but as a data have boundless love for my son, confidence in him and respect for his strength. it's not the first time that
>> do you agree with that, that it would be difficult or nearly impossible for the law ft enforcement institutions to put him in actual jail? noheenforc, they would just pute in a double wide somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass, and he would eat there, e and shower there. he'd exercise ther woue. he'd be away, as daniel perry said, from general population. but it'sut it'vious yo obviousl. >> democrat bennie thompson just introduced legislation pre to strip presidents of secret service protectionecre if they're incarcerated. he wants trump shaved in the yardants. >> here's what the former president had to say about going to prisontsabledn. >> watch. the judge could decide to say, >> mr. tse arrest or even jail . how do you face that? because i'm okay with it. i sai'w one of my lawyersone of the other day on television saying, oh, no mer, you don't w to do that to the i said, don't, you know, beg for anything? you just the way it is that could happen. i don't know that the public would stand it. you know, i don't i'm not surecl the public would stand for it with a house arrest.th i think i think it would be tough for the public
clearly no matter what the political implicates patients are. >> and as you point out, look, there could be a lot of public sympathy for the family and even for hunter who has admitted to his drug addiction and his admitted to his problem it's on all the rest of it. >> but this trial and i think you would agree, norm, this trial is going to have some pretty nasty moments. you know, the witnesses are going to the hunter biden's ex-wife, his his ex girlfriend. i mean, it's it's not going to be pretty and you'll probably be able to see text messages that talk about the family and nobody wants that exposed much less the current president of the united states, who was going to be debating donald trump, who will talk about anything during a debate. and i think that that is going to be a difficulty for the family. so there are there are two sides to this and no one would prefer that your son beyond trial for gun possession. and then again, in california coming up on tax