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you. >> sean: coming up this weekend marks the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. next donald rumsfeld relives where he was on that day, that and more coming up. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] unlike some car companies, nissan is running at 100%, which means the most innovative cars are also the most available cars. nissan. innovation for today. innovation for all. ♪
administration, they had a hard time acknowledging war on terror, apologizing for america. and we saw this most reason deal on the debt limit and automatic cuts, big portion of which will come out of defense. >> it must not happen. >> sean: i don't have a lot of faith in this super committee, that they are going to come to a consensus to cut washington spending. i don't think they have the moral courage seemingly to do so. so it seems the automatic cuts will come. what does that mean for our country's security in the long run? i think there is more coming. i pray i'm wrong. i pray that i'm wrong. but i think we are letting our guard down again. >> we've done it four, five times in my adult lifetime. i'm 79-years-old. >> sean: you don't look a day over 60. >> we did it after korea, vietnam, at the end of the cold war.
himself who helped organize this organization with his wife, darryl, thank you for being with us. first, you are halfway there in terms of the number of portraits you are going to do? >> we are approaching 250 of the 403 first responders. >> sean: explain how you and your wife came up with this idea? >> we started 2 1/2 years ago to honor heroes in the armed forces then we went to fire and police. we were here doing a project at engine 54. as we were driving home on the 12th, after presenting 12 portraits to family members there that day we were so moved, having spent a machine at engine 54 working with them on that -- a month at engine 54 working with them on that project. on the drive back to tennessee, i started getting in my mind we need to do them all, present this to every family that need we decide -- we decided this is what our calling is. and use what we've done in our
something to the effect that something is going to happen in this country and you are going to want to be a supporter of the defense and intelligence budgets because we are going to need them to deter and defend the american people. we were told that a plane hit the world trade center. i thought it was an accident. then of course when the second one hit, it was not. >> sean: we all knew right away. >> sure. we were under attack. i was in my office right next to the breakfast room. the building shook, literally. we had been hit, i didn't know if it was a bomb or an aircraft. but i raced down the hall to see if i could figure out what happened to the place, because no one was communiquing anything at that stage, people were still trying to figure it out. >> sean: how close to that? >> it is a five-sided building
it was not the next one but the one over. >> sean: were you pretty close. >> yeah, i got down the hall and the smoke was so bad. the place was burning. we went down stairs and went outside. i ran into a lt. colonel who told me he had seen the plane hit the building. that clarified that. i looked out and here were these small pieces of metal, parts of the aircraft all over the lawn, the apron around the building. there were not a lot of people there at that . the first responders hadn't arrived. people were coming out of the building burned and hurt and wounded and being taken out. i stayed there for a few minutes and attempted to help. then realized that first the people were coming and they didn't need me there. and i went back to my office and began the process of thinking through and talking to the president and the vice president. >> sean: as you look at this
himself who helped organize this organization with his wife, darryl, thank you for being with us. first, you are halfway there in terms of the number of portraits you are going to do? >> we are approaching 250 of the 403 first responders. >> sean: explain how you and your wife came up with this idea? >> we started 2 1/2 years ago to honor heroes in the armed forces then we went to fire and police. we were here doing a project at engine 54. as we were driving home on the 12th, after presenting 12 portraits to family members there that day we were so moved, having spent a machine at engine 54 working with them on that -- a month at engine 54 working with them on that project. on the drive back to tennessee, i started getting in my mind we need to do them all, present this to every family that need we decide -- we decided this is what our calling is. and use what we've done in our
you. >> sean: coming up this weekend marks the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. next donald rumsfeld relives where he was on that day, that and more coming up. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] unlike some car companies,
out atrophy. >> i agree. we both agree here. at the end of the day again, we are bipartisan because we both agree. most people can't come to a point of agreement. >> sean: but you say you are a democrat. >> that i am. >> sean: do you believe in abortion? >> no i do not. >> sean: do you believe in gay marriage? >> no, marriage is a teen a man and woman. that's their business they do what they want. -- >> sean: do you believe taxes are too high? >> i believe taxes are what they are. i never set the tax structure. i inherited a tax structure. [ talking over each other ] >> let me finish. >> sean: i love you. >> when i became -- i went from broke to some money. >> sean: so did it. >> i said some, not a lot. when i got my first million dollar check and i had to cut the government $400,000. i was open to reality. that the real world pays taxes. so i'm okay.
not worked. or what the republicans have done not just talked about, but passed legislation this year in the house to get the federal government out of the way of the private sector. to make america the favorite place to invest and hire someone. ultimately the entrepreneur in america will lead us to recovery. and the federal government is impeding that. >> sean: two things emerge congressman that are interesting. played up the class warfare, predictable. coming into the speech, we had the series of attack by his allies, his supporters. republicans, tea party members can go straight to hell, they are sons of bitches, terrorists, barbarians at the gate, they want to see black americans hanging from trees. all of this say. the president who lectures on civility was silent last night. was that striking to you? >> very striking.
sure. but we've been very fortunate. >> sean: walk us through your day on 9/11 as it is happening, what you're thinking, how you deal with it. tell us about that day? >> you go to work like it was any other day. lovely, sunny day in washington, d.c.. i had break fast with eight or 10 members of the united states house of representatives. i was deeply concerned about the defense budget. after every major conflict we've had in this country we breathed a sigh of relief and relaxed and cut the defense budget, we cut the intelligence budget and then we pay a penalty later. we did it after world war ii, after korea, after vietnam and after the cold war for a decade we did that. when president george w. bush and arrived back in office, we needed to increase it. i was sitting there talking to them and said literally