Field that is their own expertise. it s quite extraordinary. the most cynical answer, they are protecting their tax cuts. corporate tax cuts are going to be on the table in 2025. if you end up supporting trump, you re most likely to hold onto those. either way, i don t think trump is going to address the deficit at all, either. the record shows that perhaps some of the fiscal spending had a part in the inflation, it was more about supply shocks. the inability to get it things into the country. a reduction in the ability to spend on services, and barbecues and stuff like that. that shot up. we had problems with some of the food distribution, and that has come off in a very big way. by the way, don t overstated, staff, because biden has plenty of very wealthy donors. you are right to point out how extraordinary it is that some
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gathered moments ago, president biden and macron s surveyed the troops. and laid a wreath under the arc at the tomb of the unknown soldier. at both leaders are expected to attend a working lunch following the ceremony before giving statements to the press in just a few hours from now, then macron will welcome the president and first lady for a state dinner. the close ties between the us and france are on full display de as the president, president biden continues to push his message of saving democracy and freedom after his d-day anniversary speech on friday let s go to paris now, a cnn senior white house correspondent, kayla tausche president s biden macron are expected to hold in talks today of this working lunch. hit the high points. what will they be addressing in the meetings well, they re going to be a few a topics of discussion that will figure prominently. first how they can strengthen the nato alliance, how they can continue supporting ukraine, and how they can secure the indo-pacific with president macron not willing to be quite as hawkish towards china as president biden has been thus far, but there will be some cooperation it s a maritime cooperation that the two countries are set to announce. present macron is also expected to share his thoughts on how president biden is handling this situation in gaza where he has broken with the president s position of seeking a negotiated peace process to reach a two-state solution. macron has said that he his ready to recognize a palestinian state. and there has been frustration here in france over that civilian casualties and the humanitarian toll that s been exacted in gaza as israel has prosecuted its war against hamas the administration has said that president biden expects a frank and open discussion, one that s candid and expects it. there may be some areas of disagreement there, but despite those areas of disagreement, both on the handling of the situation in gaza, as well as a high-profile break between the two allies a few years ago, over a submarine partnership that france was excluded from administration. aides say that the allies have never been closer, that their relations kinship has not been weakened in any ways by those fractures. remember, state visits are reserved for only the closest of allies and the white house has taken note that france is the us is oldest ally, and certainly those leaders standing shoulder to shoulder on those issues projecting this image of strength and partnership to the world is one of the main goals of this state visit, this happening today. so that will be really the scope of this state visit. you mentioned the press statements that will be happening later this afternoon. there has been some frustration that when president macron visited the us for a state visit at the white house, there was a press conference that was conducted tween the two democracies with two questions from members of each country s press corps. that is not happening this week. there will be a press conference at the g7, but there will not be one. this at this visit, which has been a source of frustration for some here and the preska that we will not have have an opportunity to ask questions of the leaders here, all that to say there will be pumped, there will be circumstances. there will be pumped. there will be just a lot of majesty and magnanimous things that you will see today if that arrival ceremony is any indication patient of what remains in the day to come, viktor and emmer? yeah. it continues to be one spectacular welcoming ceremony. kayla tausche. good to have you. thank you very much. let s talk with the cnn military analysts or tenants general mark hertling and see in an international diplomatic editor, nic robertson. and max boot, who was a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations and columnist for the washington post. max is the author of the new book reagan, his life and legend welcome to you all. max, let s start with you. and as a both leaders head eventually to this working lunch, talk to me about how you would characterize biden add macron s relationship? basically, there are political calculations at play as well. and then the bakr i should say, front of macron s mind he has to be thinking about the potential return of trump to the white house. i would say that presidents biden in macron have a very good relationship and as you say, i think a qur an is very happy to have joe biden in the white house rather than having to deal with placating donald trump, but i think the the anecdote that joe biden often tells us how that when he first came back into office and met with macron and he said, you know, america is back in macron and others said, but for how long and i think that s the shadow of trump hangs over all this. and of course, but even though biden and trump in macron do have a good the relationship they do have a lot of things that its costs including macron proposal to send french trainers into ukraine or is suggesting that they could be sent into ukraine, which is something that biden has expressed doubts about are or suggest that it s not a good idea. so i think there are things for them to hash over, but mainly i think this is just a wonderful moment of transatlantic unity to highlight how close the alliance is under biden angel greatly endangered or would be if trump were to come back into office? general hurtling as kayla mentioned, gaza and israel s war with hamas will certainly be something discuss today. there was the idf operation that. happened at a refugee camp that freed for israeli hostages some of the concerns here around the icc seeking an arrest warrant for netanyahu, while paris backs that washington called it outrageous the backing and supplying of weapons how significant are these differences on gaza, on support for israel between these two? well i ll try them with what max you said victor and that is they are certainly there are certainly a close relationship between president biden and president in a car but they do have some differences president macron has been very vocal in making pronouncements about different things. he is supported different things. then president biden has so well, their relationship is very close and they see democracy and the emotions of what is occurred over this last week as being similar, they do have some differences of opinion and i heard you earlier talking about the lunches and dinners. it will occur today, certainly, presidents and dignitaries du. a lot of eating and drinking further country but this is a time for them to hash out some of those disagreements, some of those differences of opinions, i think president biden has got to stay very succinctly what he believes should be happening in gaza and in ukraine, and how the nato-led clients should move forward. so that s what these dinners and lunches are all about outside the view of the kind of pomp and circumstances we saw this morning at the art to draw jennifer, i just want to follow up on that regarding these differences in and specifically on ukraine, we heard on friday, president biden apologize to velocity more zelenskyy about the delayed aid president biden obviously blamed for that but after mr. zelenskyy thanked the president for that decision to allow us arms to be used in a limited way to counter attacks inside russia. he added quote, there are some detail hells on the battlefield that you need to hear from us. i heard a bit of frustration there and zelensky s tone then, what do you think he s referring to? obviously he s referring to these restraints? well, what the presence, the once-key was likely talking about was the ukrainian targeting processes. amara president biden has specifically said that these long-range weapons should be used for an operational and tactical role. what does that mean? an operational or tactical deep strike using things like atacms and artillery pieces and potentially even jet fighters has to do with what can affect the front lines, what kinds of things are ready by russia to literally attack into the ukrainian defensive positions now, there s a difference of opinion in terms of military leaders saying what you have to do is not only du, deep strikes against those tactical targets, but what russia continues to do is push their forces further and further back from the front lines so that they are not under ukrainian attack capabilities. so that s what i think president zelenskyy is going hi to talk about how far inland can we hit? can we hit air bases that are launching some of the glide bombs? can we launch or can we attack missile launch sites so that some of our cities don t continue to come on your cat. the problem with all that is many of those russian launch sites and air bases are deep within russian territory and cause concerns from russia about attacks within their federation that could interfere with say, their nuclear defense strip, that they have put that forward saying, hey, our radars for nuclear and strategic defenses have been interfered with by ukraine. so we re saying that that is truly an attack on mother russia and this is what president biden wants to avoid primarily for the purpose of this war, not expanding into a greater european war with other nations involved you re watching the precession parade possession here along the song sally s a president s biden and macron are writing there together as indicated by the flags on the front of that vehicle we have max boot and lieutenant general hurtling with us mess. let me come to you and general hurtling says that this is the time to hash those things out. some of those differences. do you expect that there will be decisions that there will be resolutions to any of these differences today. or will they just be further discussions i m suspecting there will be further discussions, but i mean, i think these as mark hertling said, i mean, i think these kinds of discussions are very important because normally these discussions are conducted at the staff level or with foreign ministers. it s either good is very important to have the heads of state directly involved. and this is going to these kinds of occasions or the time when the heads of state have the most amount of time to spend with one another as mark hertling mentioned, there s gonna be a lot of lunches, a lot of dinners, a lot of ceremonial occasions. but while all that is going on, they can also have very substantive talks. and of course some of the stuff they re going to talk about is going to be the kind of stuff anybody talks about at lunch or dinner. it s going to be there s gonna be some polite chit chat, but i think they were also get to some of the nitty-gritty and try to hash these things out. but i think i think the big thing that a macron and other europeans are going to be looking for is something that biden really can t offer which is reassuring they want reassurance that the united states will stay committed in europe, that we will remain committed to the defense of europe. we will remain staunch and standing up for ukraine and opposing russian aggression. and of course, the best that biden can say is that s what i want to do, but i don t we have free and fair elections that america and if if i joe biden lose in november everybody knows that they could have we could have a very different policy come january 20 of next year. and so i think there is just there s gonna be a lot of hand-holding as well as a lot of hand-wringing about the outcome with the political process in the united states. and because president biden will not be able to give that reassurance that he will remain in office for another term. dig robertson to you standing by you to do expect president macron to be even more vocal, i guess more aggressive as the election, american election approaches as he has been pushing for the continent s self-reliance to take its own security collective defense more seriously absolutely. i think this is exactly the direction that europe is headed in now, because it recognizes that if not now, in the future, it may face those decisions are not every country has ready for it far from it. in fact, you have some real outliers in the european union right now, like viktor orban, the prime minister in hungry or robert fit. so the prime minister in slovakia who are both pro-putin, who are both against europe supporting or the european union financially militarily supporting ukraine this is sort of the headwinds in europe, at least that president macron faces course what he has been talking about in france has talked about for some time is a more united defense policy in europe where you become in the same way it s more similar to united states in terms of manufacturing armaments you only have a few fighter jets. you have the f 60 and you have the 15, you have the f35 in europe, there are many, many different arms manufacturers and they produce for their nations are a handful of nations within the european in union, a commonality of armament making, which is really the pressure that faces nato, right now. in terms of getting armaments in big enough quantities quickly to ukraine, that you can do this better by rationalizing a pan, europe p and defense industry. and of course, each country wants to have a big slice of that. but this is the direction that macron has encouraged european leaders to look at in the past. and one that would potentially where at the european union, which doesn t have a common defense minister, let said as ahead of foreign policy, your sip borrell at the moment, but it doesn t have a head of defense in the same way that that is something that nato does. but if united states didn t support nato in the way that it does today, then that would fall to the european union. so macron really has been a sort of a liter and a pusher for that within the within europe. and it s even his strongest partner, perhaps in the european union in this regard, would be germany, that their position is not the same as macrons. so it is an up hill struggle but it is something that absolutely they face and we heard this when president trump first came into office, if you go back those years, there was an emergency summit, european union leaders in mulcher, i believe it was and it was back then francois, along the french president and the german, the german chancellor, that then mac merkle, angular merkel, who were both saying, we need to sort ourselves out and be ready to be able to deal with an isolation is united states. so the conversations are well underway. all right. will lead the conversation. there are thanks to mark hertling max boot and nic robertson make sure to stay with us. we ll have more after this break simons are going off and playing the tornado here i m thinking, i m going to die and i thought that was it filing earth with liev schreiber tomorrow at nine on cnn homa glowed, just cleaned my entire 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on october 7. now, among the freed hostages is noah, are khamanei in one of the first hamas videos released of the massacre, she was seen being abducted on a motorcycle. we re joined now by cnn international correspondent paula hancocks and cnn international corresponded ben wiedemann, polo, first to you, what do you know about the operation? well, victor, what we re hearing is from the idf, the israeli military also, the security agency saying it was a joint operation that happened in central gaza in the area of nuseirat. it was a significant operation which at this point we understand has left at least 45 killed on the ground. and hundreds injured according to our cnn producer, on the ground. but what it has also meant is that for israeli hostages have been rescued and they have been brought back to israel. now, according to the statement they say that they are in good medical condition. they have been taken to a medical centre near tel aviv to receive a treatments at this point, we have already seen video of one of the hostages you were just mentioned they re no money receiving a phone call from the israeli president, hertz. but there are four that have been released, so no or argon money, who as we remember, we did see her on the back of a motorbike being taken at the nova musical festival on october 7, that also under aid caused law for 27-year-old is a russian israeli citizen who was working security at that musical festival also, shlomi cif 40-year-old, he was also working security and i ll mog mia jan 820, one-year-old. so for hostages, have been released at this point, we understand from the idf that they are all in medical condition. this was saturday morning that this was happening and it was described by the idf for the police and the isa is a common plex special daytime operation in nuseirat. it is the third successful operation that s the israeli military has carried out since october 7 to try and retrieve some of those, those hostages that were taken on october 7 by hamas, by other militant groups we understand there s one in october 1 in february, 3, released jointly during those operations there, but that s the latest that we have at this point from the israeli military, side, right? four, i was really hostages, rescued in that operation. paula, thank you. let s go to been we d have been now and ben, we were so get just a few minutes ago about this being the de that benny gantz, a key member of the prime minister s war cabinet, was expected to announce whether he would go through with his vow to leave the israeli government. that announcement has now been postponed is it directly connected to this operation that free these hostages we think so. i mean, a clearly does not want to steal the limelight with this one bit of good news for the israelis. his problems, his issues with prime minister netanyahu have not been resolved oh, they have fundamental differences. they were political rivals in the past. so that doesn t change. but i think for now, he s it s not canceling, probably not canceling his announcement, but he s certainly is going to postpone it while is rarely a digest. this news, i mean, keep been mining, is polo was mentioning back in what was it? october and february between those 23 hostages were released. today for them? that brings to seven 77 hostages released after eight months of intense warfare in the gaza strip keeping in mind, of course that what was much more successful at getting hostages released was that ceasefire in late november of last year where if i recall correctly, at least 40 hostages were released. so certainly what we ve seen since that very brief eight days cease fire that the military we operations have continued and have today had some success, but until now it hasn t really resulted in much other than, as i said, just seven hostages released. in the meantime, we ve had more than 36,000 palestinians have been killed we picked her. amara was showing you a video here of the two of the hostages that are coming off that helicopter and going on onto i believe that s a medical transport vehicle. one hand over his mouth, the other throwing his arms up in the air. we also saw a video so of celebration in the streets at the news of the rescue of four hostages from this refugee camp. as we get more pictures in this moment that so many families, those who are related to these hostages and those who are not have hoped for rallied for protested four to get these people who were now eight months, eight months since the october 7 attack good day almost to the de, have been held as hostages in gaza. what a moment to watch as these freed hostages walked off military helicopter are just incredible moments there we re going to leave it there. paula hancocks and ben wade. a man. thank you so much. we re going to take a quick break back after this the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn t be higher. the president and the former president, one state to 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the nest neutral refugee camp, which is in northwestern, more the center part of god, while the operations in rafah continue you, this, this makes it very clear that operations across the gap gaza strip in these specifically the underground, subterranean facilities the tunnels that hamas has built underneath different infrastructure as what s been critical. so yeah, the intelligence is what drove this. i m sure this wasn t just stumbling upon four different hostages in two different locations. this has to be an intelligence driven operation, which he israeli military has been trying to do since the start of this campaign and max sent to you and what what does this mean for the hostage and ceasefire negotiations that are on going? also, knowing that benny gantz, a cabinet minister we ll now he postponed his announcement of resignation apparently due to the release of the rescue of these hostages does this increased pressure on netanyahu to bring more of the hostages home well, obviously it s very good news to get these hostages out. i mean, i think netanyahu has actually been fairly receptive to the latest ceasefire plan, which is being pushed by the biden administration in a coalition of other nations. i think the holdup right now is hamas. they re not agreeing to that plan because basically the hamas leadership thinks that seems to think that it doesn t matter how many palestinians are killed or how much that people of gaza suffer because there s longer as the hamas leadership in some of the fighters are secured here are these underground tunnels they can still hold out and essentially come out after the israeli military retreats. and i think they i wouldn t be unfortunately, i wouldn t be not optimistic about an immediate ceasefire coming because these negotiations have been going on for many months you d have not gone anywhere and i think for israel, they still face some very difficult issues. namely what happens in the months ahead they don t want to occupy the gaza strip, but then the question is who is going to bring security to that area what is the day after look like? and that s something where netanyahu has still refused to provide any kind of vision because it would be two political difficult, politically difficult for him because his coalition partners don t want any role for the palestinian authority and at the same time, there s very little support for actually having the idf occupy the gaza strip and so this doesn t really solve israel s intractable problems. unfortunately, i m sorry to say it doesn t mean that the offensive was going to wind down anytime soon general didn t answer the questions. it doesn t resolve any of those issues, but i wonder as we look at this video of hostages who are free and the celebration in the streets politically how much time does this by netanyahu relief from pressure both domestically with the pending against resignation and the pressure from the us and other allies around the world well, i don t think it s going to gain a whole lot of time internationally. victor, it certainly will gain some time domestically from mr. netanyahu because he has a lot of supporters in the israeli government. i d like to point out though one thing that our great report are, then we amend mentioned he said the last big tranche of hostages occurred after the cetacean abbas still cities several months ago, and there hasn t been that kind of released since then. yeah, i d like to point out though that israel has made the opera to hamas on multiple occasions to have ceasefire in exchange for hostage yes. and hamas continues to play with them on this. they will bring them right up to the doorstep of a ceasefire with the potential for release of hostages from both the palestinian camps and israel, but also the ones that they took on october the seventh. and then at the very end, just when there s hope, hamas dashes those hope i think that s what max was describing so it means it s going to mean a continuation of the operation. and there is certainly a disconnect between the biden administration and the netanyahu government in terms of what they should do, in terms of a ceasefire. and the three-phase plan that president biden pointed out that he was offering allegedly with mr. netanyahu is approval a few days ago. but i think as long as the hostages are still in captivity and hamas shows no interest in releasing them. remember these four that were kept, were recovered this morning alive. we re not given up by hamas. they were driven by intelligence operations by the israeli military. so i think you re going to see a continuation of that kind of intelligence. and plus, i d add that these hostages will also be able to add to that intelligence in terms of their type of treatment where they d been moved from the number of moves they ve made what locations are they putting their fellow hostages in? they may be able to add a lot of information and intelligence for the israeli military to go after some morehouse. it really is remarkable that they were able to rescue these hostages eight months after the war started on tovar seven max. if and when benny gantz announces his withdrawal from the emergency war cabinet he is a centrist. what kind of impact do you see that happening on netanyahu s government? do you expect? to see more of a hard line approach that s very hard to say. i m not sure that that much is going to change. i mean, benny gantz can lead, but it s not going to bring down the government the issue that could actually bring down the government is question of conscripting ultra ultra-orthodox men into the israeli military because some of the ultra religious parties in the the cabinet are completely opposed to that. and if the israeli supreme court gives the go ahead to conscript the ultra-orthodox, that could actually be a crisis that could bring down the government. i don t think that the benny gantz departure will bring down the cabinet. i mean, i think my it s a little bit hard to know exactly what goes on behind the doors of the war cabinet. my sense is that benny gantz is certainly more open than netanyahu has to the idea of having the palestinian authority play a role in governing gaza after the war. but i think honor has also been pretty much of a hardliner on rooting out hamas fighters, even at the cost of substantial numbers of palestinian civilians, deaths i m not sure he s diametrically opposed to netanyahu on, on a lot of issues. i mean, i think he certainly has a perception as being more of a moderate but he he s not, he s certainly not a dove i believe the conversation there max boot and general mark hertling. thank you very much. liberate back hey, mom, how many should i decorate each have ran have blue. that s a really tough call. who are you if you look at the latest data? you re probably going to need a lot of those purple sprinkles. how this guy really knows his stuff i was just doing shift wednesday my always crying 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takes a different approach to imagine your future differently thank you for coming together. qu appelle universities, game changing, flux path format, take courses on your own terms and apply the skills you learn right away. the assignment with audie cornish, listen wherever you get your podcasts we re now on the breaking news. the idf says it has rescued four hostages who were taken from the nova music festival on october 7. eight months ago. now, the chief spokesman for the idf described the dangerous mission watch this this was a high risk complex mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight in two separate buildings. deep inside gaza while under fire under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way on the way out from gaza. our forces rescued our hostages israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. there underwent intensive training. they reached their lives to save the lives of all hostages i just incredible to hear the details there. nic robertson is back with as you ve been covering, spent a lot of time covering these attacks on the war between israel and hamas. and just hearing those details about this, you know, the hostages were rescued from two separate locations in daylight while they were under fire. what do you make of all this? this is such a success story for the idf and for the families right now, this is the moment they ve been waiting for i was at the hospital just outside tel aviv earlier on this year. i think it was january, perhaps february when 23 hostages were were freed. that was a nighttime raid it meant laying down a lot of fire, a lot of palestinians in the neighborhood were killed just to get these hostages freed. but for those families and you could feel the euphoria at the hospital back then. so outside tel aviv. so i can only imagine and we re witnessing house some, and, some of their celebrations. but i can only imagine how it must feel for the doctors there who are real professionals in helping these hostages come out of this horrible environment that they ve been in. i mean, i m looking you look at no ag money now she was handed a telephone. the president of israel was congratulating or on the phone. but just look how pale shares go back and look at the video of when she was captured she was tanned she was clearly terrified in that video. so it s quite amazing to see her now having enjoyed more than 250 days of captivity surviving it. but you can just see the way, the way that she looks now, these hostages, it appears have just been kept either underground or completely out of sunlight for so long now, it s a big process as we know, we re talking to doctors back then earlier on in the year about the process of recovery for the hostages and it s going to take a lot of time. there s your emotion. noah got to meet with her father again. there were kisses. these these are huge moments, but it s an an intense trauma that they ve been through and it s going to take a long, long time if ever to begin to unwind that. but but the medical staff at the hospital that absolutely professionals in that know their job. but this is a moment of pure celebration. i think obviously for these families, but more broadly, and israel and a desperate sense for those other hostage families now, who, who, who desperately hope it s their loved ones next, you live pictures here of the celebrations as those for israeli hostages, as we said, located from rescued from two separate locations. all four taking from the nova music festival on october 7, they are now a free medical checks under happening right now. we ll continue to get you more on this breaking news. nic robertson. thank you for that. quick rate we ll be back hi sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence is shared with your adversary he and his secret where it is betrayed itself, bullet to the back of the hand secrets and spies a nuclear game on cnn old spice gentleman who by hydration, body wash. now that 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administration expected president macron to be very frank and very candid with his assessment of how the white house has been handling that situation. so certainly for the us, this is seen as a welcome development. it s something they have been pushing for for some time and certainly that is welcome news that president biden can bring to the table as part of that discussion. other topics that the two liters are expected to discuss are the strengthening of the nato alliance going forward and going into this summit celebrating the 75th anniversary of the alliance next month that need to continue supporting ukraine for the long-term. and what sorts of resources and assets can be deployed to ukraine at this stage of the war after president biden has just received a detailed assessment from president zelenskyy yesterday, and then there s going to be discussion around securing the indo-pacific with a new maritime cooperation deal expected to be announced between the two relations with china, in particular, had been one area where macron has been willing to be more open, more friendly toward china than the us has. certainly that is an area where the two could be in some disagreement, although there is this partnership that they will announce, we do expect those joint statements a little bit later on this afternoon when asked why there would not be a press conference between two democracies, the white house said that that was a discussion that was agreed between the two tides guys. all right. kayla tausche in paris where the us president in french president are about to head into a working lunch. thank you so much, kayla. and thank you so much for joining us this morning. first of all, starts after a break the increase in wildfires is exponential, unpredictable, uncontrollable rolling consequences. the need to do something is urgent slightly, earth would we have schreiber, tomorrow at nine on cnn not flossing well, then add the wo of listerine to your routine. new science 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(dog bark) it s just smarter, healthier pet food. it s amazing what real food can do. good morning and welcome back to the weekend. we are following two breaking stories. first, president biden is currently in bilateral talks with french president emmanuel macron. continue to visit commemorating the 80th anniversary of the allied invasion of normandy. the two world leaders are expected to deliver joint remarks later this hour. the other breaking news is out of israel. four hostages rescued alive, 245 days after their capture by hamas on october 7th. shortly after news of the rescue, the war cabinet minister the latest statement where he was expected to resign from netanyahu is emergency government. that spring and nbc s raf sanchez from tel aviv. what can you tell us? reporter: this raid took place at 11:00 a.m. in broad daylight in central gaza according to the israeli military. hundreds of israeli special forces swarming in and say they rescued the hostages from two separate apartment buildings. we believe that the three male hostages were being held together and noa argamani on the left of your screen was being held on her own in a separate apartment building. the israeli military says they are all in good medical condition. and at a hospital here in the greater tel aviv area. you are seeing on your screen the moment noa argamani was united with her father . we met him on october 8th, 24 hours after his daughter was kidnapped. you can only imagine through his tears and his sobbing he pleaded and pleaded and pleaded with the people holding her not to harm her. and today he is holding his daughter once again. as far as we know, she has not seen her mother yet. who has terminal brain cancer. she is in another hospital in the tel aviv area. she has been telling the world her dying wish was to see her daughter again and we believe that reunion is going to happen sometime today. what about the other hostages that were released? what do we know of their physical state. i can imagine everyone s mental state is in shambles. physically, are they okay? and anything coming from the idf about potential rescue operations for the 120 other hostages that still remain in captivity? reporter: so, three others hostages rescued today are all in good physical condition. we have not seen as much video of them as we have of noa, but we saw two coming off a helicopter in tel aviv they were walking along side israeli forces for all three of the men were also kidnapped from the october 7th music festival. they are shlomi ziv, and meil jan and andrey kozlov . in terms of potential other rescues, it is important to put this in perspective. we are months into this war. and israel has rescued seven hostages alive. in months. as much as there is celebration across israel today, i don t think anyone is operating under the illusion that all the hostages are going to be rescued like this. there is still an understanding in this country that to get most all of those 120 hostages back, it is most likely that there will have to be some kind of deal with hamas. and it is not clear at this point what sort of impact today s rescue will have on the negotiations. officials and site guys are saying 50 people were killed by israeli fire during this raid. and the head of hamas is political wing is saying if israel believes it can change the situation through force, it is delusional. it s also unclear whether this successful rescue today may make regimen netanyahu feel slightly less political pressure to negotiate with hamas for the rest of the hostages and as we know, guys, there is that cease- fire proposal on the table right now laid out by president biden last week and the world is waiting to see whether or not hamas will accept it. nbc s raf sanchez live from tel aviv. thank you. we will be monitoring development this hour. let s bring in our negotiator and senior fellow for the carnegie endowment for international peace. your thoughts, can we pick up where raf sanchez left off. your thoughts on these new developments. four hostages have been rescued by the idf. in central rafah today. on a human level, for a nation that has been in a state of collective ptsd since october 7th, this comes as an extraordinary moment and also a demonstration for israeli defense force which bears tremendous guilt and probably shame for the surprise attack on october 7. it reflects to a degree the competency and professionalism and courage which has long characterized many of the idf operations. on a political level, it does present, i think, i sort of victory of the netanyahu narrative. the longer we remain in gaza, the longer is really intelligence operates with the proximity to figure out where hostages are. and in essence it validates that narrative. on the other hand, 120 hostages , 30 plus israelis were killed on october 7th. the bodies were brought to gaza to trade or they died in captivity. the grid my reminder of the degree of difficulty that the israeli face it does reaffirm that israel suggests 56% of israeli public favor the biden cease-fire for hostage negotiations. i think it is a mixed message, but today, i think many israelis are ecstatic with the news that the redemption of israelis which represents a identity for that state of israel, it s a moment and with enormous satisfaction. david you still have 120 people that are being held captive. you still have a question mark about hamas response to joe biden s proposal. netanyahu reticence to engage in discussions around the two state solution. and israeli people in many respects very apprehensive about the leadership of netanyahu and in the prosecution of this war. so, even though this is an important opportunity and hope, those reality still exists and at one point, at what point, does that kick back in? is it six hours from now? 24 hours from now? when people realize that, yes, this happened, but still, there is a lot of has not change in the movement. towards resolving this crisis. michael, that s an excellent point. this is a headline, and the reality is that member of the war cabinet reportedly to announce his exit from the war cabinet has been postponed. that s also a reminder of the fact that if he leaves the government, you will be left with the most extreme right government in the history of the state. a prime minister on trial for bribery, fraud and breach of trust three years running now and do in district court sees no reason right now to favor the biden proposal even though he has accepted over the reality of domestic political realities and if there is a core constituency, and elemental to the prime minister s calculations, it is that right- wing government. again, i think you are right. it is a moment and the israelis are right to exult in this moment but by no means does it shed any light, it seems to me, on a likely pathway out of this. hamas has not responded to this and they probably will not come back with a clean yes. and maybe a guess, but. they are under tremendous pressure from qatar but i guess, but, again, the administration will have the onus on hamas. it may well provide the prime minister with breathing room not to accept the president s proposal. we have many bad days ahead. aaron david miller, we have a statement coming in from prime minister netanyahu. the entire nation salutes you and the brave fighters who risk their lives today to save lives. once again, you have proven that israel does not surrender to terrorism and ask with creativity and courage that knows about to bring home our abductees but we are committed to doing so in the future as well. this is the part i want you to weigh in on you will not let up until we complete the mission and return all our abductees home both the living and the dead. there you have it. it s a validation of the prime minister s view, i think, and as long as the work continues, not only the greater chances of political survival, but he may rationalize the greater the possibility of additional israeli success. the killing in the architect of the actual terror attacks. i think that statement reflects exact lee who the prime minister is. you if you are president biden, what are the conversations you re having with her interest and this morning understanding that the president is focused on an important anniversary. i think the administration has only one alternative. that is to continue to press and see whether or not the negotiations if hostages are released in exchange for palestinian prisoners in a six- week six cease-fire, i think that is the only practical pathway out of this for this administration and for the president who is facing the most consequential election in contemporary american history. where any factor, any factor at all, in a close election could sway the results one way or the other. david miller, as always, thank you for joining us at the last minute. next, the revenge toting after historic conviction. you are watching the weekend. so you don t zevo. people-friendly. bug-deadly. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i d buy stilts. hi honey. ahhh.ooh. look, no line at the hot dog stand. yes! only pay for what you need. liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. we re talking about cashbackin. not a game! we re talking about cashbacking. we re talking about. we re not talking about practice? 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not only should prosecutors be concerned that the entire electorate by larger measure the height entire american people should be concerned. i think donald trump is shown when he s going to do something regardless of how ridiculous it is, he will do it and particularly if you look at the judiciary and dogs and everything else that occurred during his a administration, we have evidence this is someone who intends to enact whatever it is he has to to keep his word in that regard. this is something that even as ridiculous as it sounds, to cause extreme amount of concern. as i listen to him during that voiceover a moment ago, i thought to myself, donald trump ran for president because they brought the charges. it wasn t that they brought the charges because he is running for president. people can construct any maneuver necessary to enact his retribution, as he says, on the judiciary for whatever he feels they have done unjustly to him. here s the thing. it is not just trumpet it is his cronies. take a listen to what they had to say. unless republicans unshackle themselves from their self- imposed restraints, and are as ruthless and fighting to save america as the democrats and fighting to destroy america, every facet of republican party politics and power has to be used right now to go to toe to toe with marxism and beam apps communist. all of this is about one thing. it s about shutting down the maga movement and shutting down grassroot conservatives and shutting down president trump. there is not a built that will ever shut me up. all victory to mag a. i m sorry, it is real early in the morning to hear from those two but i think it is important to hear what they are talking about. the other thing that strikes me, they used to be they threats of prosecution. a year ago, you had the former president s and he would go after president biden and now you have adding by name hillary clinton, alvin bragg to that list, the threat is becoming increasingly specific. it is becoming increasingly specific and it s really chilling rhetoric to hear. you hear this and it undermines the rule of law. this rhetoric. but i think what is important is that trunk, if he is elected, what is going to matter is who the people are around him. people will like maybe steve manning, and he knows from his previous administration that if he selects people who push back against him and are willing to stop him, he s not going to get what he wants. so i think this time around, one of the things that will be different there are these promises of retribution may, is that trump is going to be thinking about who it is that he will be putting in his potential administration and this time around, i think it will be much less willing to put people in power who are going to say no. charles, here is my thing with all of this. the fact that we are still talking about this almost as if it is this universe of maga and trump and the democrats trying to battle them but at the core of it is a political party and institution that support that party, heritage for example. that are hell-bent on one thing. retribution, payback. you got the new york times noting that the intensity of anger and open desire for using the criminal justice system against democrats at the verdict surpasses anything seen before and trump s tumultuous years and national politics. what is different now is the range of republicans who are saying retaliation is necessary and who are no longer cloaking their intent with euphemisms. a couple things. what the hell are they so angry about ? when they had control of both the house, senate and white house, they did nothing with it. they did not we are going to change, were going to put in these polys, didn t happen. yet, the american people sit back and look at this and they are like, let s do it again. let s put the same people that listen to miller. you listen to bannon and the american people are saying, give me more of that. because right now, donald trump and joe biden are tied or trump is slightly ahead because people are paying a buck more for gas. how do you break this? how do you get people to understand what this means for the criminal justice system, what it means under the rule of law, what it means when a president, a former president running for office again, wants to throw people tripped up it s not just going to be the people they see on television. this will extend to everybody else downstream. michael, i have to say, we have to take a step back. i m glad you frame the question the way you did because republicans have shown they want to have the authority of the rule of tyrants but accountability of toddlers. what i mean is if you remember during midterm elections, i said republicans were politicizing the issue of crime and justice in america and they got mad at me for saying it. we have seen that play out on the national scale particularly in the wake of donald trump s conviction are in new york. we cannot enter into my face any further we we are allowing the just the system which is supposed to be there, balanced and equal, to be used as a political weapon. that is ultimately what republicans are seeking to do. they realize when it speaks to the notion of accountability there is a possibility that their leading candidate will be put in jail or held accountable under the rule of law. what do they want to do? not only do they want to change the rules, but they also want to see and have him use it as a weapon and have the party do the same. that is deeply troubling for all of us to understand what the separation of power is supposed to be on the true purpose of the criminal justice system should be. we will talk on the other side about pacifically alvin bragg and how they are trying to , what you are saying, into action. stick around. don t go anywhere. we have more to discuss in a moment. go to but first, we have news in paris. we got video of joe biden and french president emmanuel macron during their meeting. according to the pool report reporters there with the two world leaders, they were seated across from one another in a garden. there was no coffee on the table but president biden was talking and his voice was too low to hear what he was saying. the only snippet heard by the radio pool from npr was saying, quote, my last conversation with xi, referring to present xi of china, that is all they could hear. we are expecting formal remarks from all of them and possibly in this hour. when we do we will bring it live. much more ahead untrantitle here on msnbc. aine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine i had on the weekend on msnbc. blocksrn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. 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a jury found donald trump and convicted him. why go back and subjected to a political process where the feds have no authority and congress has no authority here to call him up and asked him about his prosecution. michael, you re absolutely right. i could not agree with you more. i think alvin bragg is operating from a spacer he thinks he has justice on his side and nothing to hide. he can defend that. the problem is the arena you are talking about this committee, they are led by jim jordan and don t care about truth or justice. we wouldn t be having this conversation if they did because we also know if donald trump was acquitted or a mistrial, he would not have been subpoenaed. this is only the function of donald trump being convicted and this is not anything that alvin bragg needs to engage in. leave it alone. can you repeat that one point . if donald trump had been found not guilty or a mistrial, what happened? this would not be happening in jim jordan would have not issued that subpoena. let us add to the list. clarence thomas finally acknowledging the lavish gifts he received among the disclosures. two vacations and 2019 that were funded by billionaire harlan crow. are you seeing the type of energy from members of the house and senate to appropriately investigate the supreme court given the level of crisis we are seeing out of this court? look, we have seen some efforts by house democrats to reform the ethics code and have some oversight over the supreme court. of course, the supreme court has repeatedly said over the years that congress does not have the authority to really administer any kind of oversight. there was some ethics reform last year, however, there is no enforcement mechanism for that. we re seeing by the examples recently, justice alito refusing to recuse himself from the presidential immunity decision or january 6th case decisions, citing that ethics code and claiming that he does not need to recuse. i think it is clear that there are some issues here with enforcement of those ethics reforms. but i think actually one of the deeper issues here is not even ethics oversight and the supreme court, it s how much the supreme court or the truth that many of the justices at least, feel there is some sort of impunity that they have had because these are people who have lifetime appointments. so i think one of the real question that maybe people should be considering is not so much of what the ethics reforms can do, but whether there are other legislative solutions like term limits for supreme court justices. i mean, some things have been done and why could argue that the democrats need to be more crafty. it s like the house is on fire and they are looking for the keys to open the door and unlock it and walk through. i m not a lawyer, so i don t know. maybe i am wrong. the rest of us just need to sit down and be grateful that clarence thomas acknowledged what propublica told us years ago. this is how the illegals work until they don t. to your point, you have to force a different way. we have seen that passing any real checks on the supreme court, this is what we can expect. this court is interesting because they had on a power grab for the duration of the last few terms. it s only going to get worse. democrats, if this is something they are sincerely concerned about and really matters to them, they will have to use alternative means and get more creative rather than expecting the court to police themselves. i would like to argue that you need to go toe to toe. thank you both so much for sticking with us on a winding newsday. president biden does damage control with progressive after his executive action on the border. we are joined by caucus with greg since our next. you are watching the weekend. for moderate to severe crohn s disease skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn s disease. control of crohn s means everything to me. ask your gastroenterologist about skyrizi. control is everything to me learn how abbvie could help you save. it s time to feed the dogs real food, not highly processed pellets. the farmer s dog is fresh food made with whole meat and veggies. it s not dry food. it s not wet food. it s just real food. it s an idea whose time has come. sara federico: at st. jude, we don t care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. the heart of st. jude is to take care of children with catastrophic diseases and to advance their cure rates. but we need to be able to do that for everyone. it s a bold initiative, to try and bump cure rates all around the world. but we should. it is our commitment. [music playing] in a few moments president biden and french president emmanuel macron will give remarks after their bilateral meeting it comes at the end of the strip to france what has thus far focused on memory the 80th anniversary of the date. focus has now shipped to modern- day challenges and conflicts. president biden and his administration are now working to remedy progressives restoration over his newly signed executive action to tighten border security. his moves which would simply shut down asylum request once the average number of encounters top money 500 is met with backlash from most republicans and some democrats. for different reasons. joining us now is congressman greg casar and good morning, congressman. thank you for having me on. sir, your first initial thoughts when you found out about this executive order. is my understanding the white house did a round of calls to members of congress and a number of progressive allies to give them a heads up of what the president s order would be. executive action, pardon me. we know this has been building up and potentially coming because it is my first term and i m sitting here in san antonio, texas, where we welcome so many thousands of immigrants over the last few years. we have seen how they basically , republicans, have covered up for every failure there is i pointing to some vulnerable group of people. right now they are trying to pick on poor and desperate families fleeing violence especially from latin america. i think they have been setting up this trap that unfortunately president biden has been pushed into with this executive order. so, my first reaction we need to provide better alternative and more progressive vision for why we need a better immigration system rather than falling into the republican trap which makes immigration less legal disorder actually closes legal pathways, restricts legal pathways to migration, which is the opposite of the direction we should be going in. how do you reconcile that with the vast majority of americans who have an opposite view of what you just described? they don t have a progressive view of immigration policy. they have a more restrictive view of immigration policy in the president is trying to walk a very fine line here. given that neither the congress nor prior administrations have done squat on the border. so, it rests on his desk in the face of a very contentious election against a demagogue who wants to round people up and ship them somewhere. outside the united states for he doesn t care where. and the american people seemingly are applauding that because they are giving him the upper hand on immigration policy. so, how do you how does the present walk that line? if this is not the way to walk it? you have made some really important points and i will tackle a few of them. first of all, i am a supporter of the president and donald trump has been the most anti- emigrant president not just in modern history but as long as anyone can remember. we have to be strongly opposed to his presidency. i do not enjoy disagreeing with my own president on this executive order. the problem is, republicans in the congress has spent much of their time as possible keeping the border and immigration system is broken as possible. of course, the average american disagrees with saying these difficult images on the border. seeing people stuck in lines, sucking camps, there is not an orderly process. but it has been republican officials who have caused that. they are the arsonist and they try to track tried to blame president biden, the firefighters, for the flames they had set. so instead we should go to your question, what with the american people truly support? where should we go? one, or legal pathways so folks can apply to come here. i believe that most americans do not disagree with many progressives on immigration. they just want to see a more legal and orderly pathway. second, we actually should try to find ways to reduce some of that burden and resource strength on border communities. this order will not reduce the number of people getting pushed out and displaced from latin america, immigration doesn t start on the border. it starts in their home country. we have to have a conversation about why there are record numbers of people being pushed out of their homes. that is why i am drafting legislation to address how they are pushing folks out of their homes without resulting democracy. we need to change the policies that leave latin american countries in debt and we have to stop pushing people out of their homes before we blame asylum-seekers. especially as we recognize d-day. we fought for the values i learned in world war ii that we should not be turning people away from violent and destruction. that is when we set up the laws that we should be protecting. i want to make sure we get to this. is reporting that the white house in addition to all this is looking at the possibility of parole in place for undocumented spouses of u.s. citizens. if you ask me, that is a political lay-up and about keeping american families together. your counsel to the white house suggest a series of executive actions and authorities that would in fact enhance and benefit immigration in this country. we got to get that done. i appreciate your bringing that up. we remember when president biden was running for re- election in trying to protect dreamers and their parents as well. how important that was for the latino community and our economy and campaign. president biden needs to put forward positive vision for immigration and sign positive executive actions. i think it is the right thing to do both morally and politically. we have more ahead. this is the weekend. stay with us. so go ahead, lived with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it s like the feeling of finding you re so ready for your close-up. or finding 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do the use of the week there. it s not just joe biden who will save democracy. it is not kamala harris who was a democracy. it is we, the people, the voters of the united states of america who are tasked with this undertaking. a peep will have the power. we went up the people have the power. it feels as though politics is this existential thing and the world leaders and the images we ve been putting on the screen today, and these are the people making the decisions. we are just, you know, we just have to roll with the punches but the reality is these folks work for us. at least when it comes to a democracy. the people have the power and i keep going back to that article about president biden and all the things he has done on the world stage to expand and strengthen nato. and the author wrote that in america president have to earn their mandate. we give the president, the governors, the senators, members of congress, their mandate and we have to be involved. this is a pivotal moment for americans and a pivotal moment for the world. i shudder to think what happened and what the world is and 30, 40, 50 years from now if donald trump is elected in november. that is a point i made to charles. the power rests with us but we seemingly right now have a mind to not use it on behalf of democracy but to use it to exact a punishment on democracy. the retribution narrative resonates with far more americans that we want to be honest about the i was going to ask you who that we was in your sentence. we, the american people. i mean, in any other universe, this is not a contest for the next president of the united states for the presidency is firmly in the hands of the man who is arguing on behalf of the country. and its role in the world. but that is not where we are. it s not the conversation we are having to in the do you know what, michael, you re right. one could argue that he s talking about republicans, but he is talking about voters who this message of retribution is resonating with. who traffic in the bigotry, racism, misogyny and all the phobias. the people willing to prop up not just donald trump but the entire apparatus that is around him that is the republican party right now. the voters are the ones who have emboldened these elected officials and frankly people have to take a look at themselves. it seems like this is exactly who some people want to be. the reality of it is, this is not all republicans. the folks in the election process, the republicans don t have the numbers to command 70, 60%, 50% of the vote. they don t. they make up in total about, what? 32%? in a general election of identified voters. i think we have to be honest about that. in this moment of commemorating the day, and normandy, and all the men and women, quite honestly, who sacrificed on the day is a profound message back to us to say, history is not just something that goes to the dustbin. it is something that you put in the soul of the country. two reminded of its 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fight for democracy both at home and abroad. the latest on the ground in just a moment. breaking news from his rule. the military says it has rescued four hostages from gaza. we are live in the region with those details. also this morning, republican calls for retribution after the guilty verdict. they are stronger and more specific. get your coffee and settle in. welcome to the weekend . we begin this hour with breaking news. we have a busy saturday for president biden on the world stage. right now the president is in a meeting with emmanuel macron following a procession the two leaders participated in earlier this morning. they are expected to deliver remarks later this morning. this is all part of the president s trip to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the allied invasion of normandy and world war ii. throughout the visit, the president has emphasized the threat to our democracy, not just here at home but also abroad. it is as urgent as it was 80 years ago. joining us now to discuss is staff writer for the atlantic and msnbc contributor and former homeland security and counterterrorism advisor to vice president mike pence, welcome to you both. this was quite the week for president biden to stand on the global stage in a way that he did to talk about the urgency of this moment in democracy and relating it back to history. what was your take on what the president had to say and how do you think it resonated, not just with our european allies but here at home? there we go. i get it. i think he did an excellent job and he is an excellent leader on the world stage. it was critical to show that face to the world and also to americans. you know, i think michael, you know, he did have sort of that reaganesque quality and i thought it was important to talk about, you know, the people that have served in the military, the lives that have been given to freedom and that is really what is at stake here. you know, i saw some criticism on fox and other channels, why isn t he attacking trump in this moment? he never mentioned trupp. he never mentioned him by name, i don t believe. i think what he needed to say is that this is a bigger choice, bigger choice then each and every one of us, it is a choice about what do we want our future to be as a country? let s honor those lives that served. important stuff. olivia, the words of president biden were so poignant, i thought spot on, let s play a little bit of what he talked about when it comes to hardships of american democracy. this is the president in normandy, france on friday with emmanuel macron. we talk about democracy. american democracy. we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. what we don t talk about is how hard it is, how many ways we are asked to walk away, how many instincts are to walk away, the most natural instinct is to walk away. to be selfish, to force our will upon others, to seize power and never give up. american democracy asked the hardest of things, to believe in something bigger than ourselves. does anybody think michael donald trump could have given that speech? alicia, i don t know. it is a rhetorical question. it speaks to all the reporting you have been doing, which is the impossible to watch president biden on the world stage without doing a compare and contrast, not just us, people who show up on cable news but as an american watching at home and certainly if you are an ally watching. yeah, the themes biden is sounding in the speeches and throughout these events commemorating d-day are very familiar themes from past administrations and frankly, both parties. to olivia s point, sounds like ronald reagan, george h. bush, george w. bush, not a very popular president abroad. in certain things, there has been a bipartisan consensus in this country for a long time. one of those things is the important aspect of the transatlantic relationship and the fact it is rooted in western democratic values and belief that america is supposed to align with other democracies and that alliance is a safeguard for the rest of the world and what is interesting is that speech biden gave would have been completely uncontroversial and unmemorable, you know, just a few short years ago. now it is like, you know, right in the middle of a massive domestic political debate about what role america should play in the world and what it does to its allies. that compare and contrast is really start this year. you touched on that, mckay, actually, in a great observation of your fears, the irony of the obsession with the election is that the people who decide this are not thinking about your much at all. in part, it is because many americans have not seen the need for nato in their lifetime, despite the fact that this september 11th terrorist attacks were the only time article 5 has been invoked. you touched on a very important point about disconnection. actually and ironically, something george bush 43 warned about on the heels of 9/11. we cannot forget this moment. we feel good, we are unified now, we understand we are standing in defense of our values and we are prepared to prosecute the case against terrorism but all of that is dissipated, that connection to those institutions that hold all of this together and i think biden, being there, and saying what he said was important, but you point out the fact that there is still this tension, this disconnect that needs to be reconciled between us and europe, between our role in the world and the rest of the world and how we, as americans, look at these institutions. so i was traveling throughout europe this spring and talking to european officials and diplomats and the thing that kept coming up is this real sense of uncertainty about what america is anymore, right? because for 75 years, since world war ii, your even when they disagreed with people we elected, even then they didn t really like certain administrations, they trusted in america to be a reliable ally. america was the linchpin to the nato alliance, it was going to be a generally responsible member of the global community, right? that first trump term really did damage to america s reputation and to the trust america could be relied upon. again and again, i would hear these european officials sort of ask me, what does it mean that donald trump is currently leading in the polls? what s wrong with y all? because they finally remember the u. s. that stormed the beaches of normandy, that is the your america a lot of europeans still remember and we wonder how many europeans remember that. to crystallize that point, olivia, let s listen to something liz cheney put out, called our great task. take a listen. one s country is worth dying for. democracy is worth dying for because it is the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. all of you love liberty. all of you were willing to fight tyranny. you knew the people of your countries with were behind two. today we give thanks for all that was gained on the beaches of normandy. we remember what was lost with respect, admiration and love. this freedom and these hopes are with the heroes of dj fought and died for. america deserves a president as good and steadfast as our nation. a president of character, driven by a noble purpose, one who honors the sacrifices of our troops, not a man consumed by spite, revenge and self-pity. you don t need to say the name, olivia, to know who it is they are talking about there. yeah, you don t. at this time, it reminds me of trump saying these people are losers and every time i think about that, a president of the united states would ever say something like that, my stomach turns. watching that ad and thinking about my time during the trump administration working in national security, i think what lacked among some of the inner circles, including trump himself was a greater purpose of service and i don t think that any of these people that is in his inner circle, i am talking about his enable us and him, understand a greater calling, understand something that you belong to that is bigger than yourself and bigger than your selfishness of what these people have exhibited because most of them never did serve. they don t understand military service, they don t understand the intelligence community, they don t understand public service. i think it is a threat to not remind ourselves to what the president, as what they stand for and what they represent and what they will eventually do. a reminder, we will likely pull out of nato because those discussions were had during the trump administration. the reason the world is so concerned about what is about to happen should he return to office is because i was in those meetings when we were having serious discussions with warren hendrix, where the narrative for a daily basis, where he would say, i thought we agreed to this and it would change. we did this on venezuela. i am telling you, i covered africa for vice president pence, i sat in these discussions where there would be a commitment made and they would pull the rug out from under him. that is not how you do diplomacy. that is not how you do these diplomatic relations. they are so critical and so challenging. olivia, people at home may not appreciate fully what you are saying because literally all the thing is you do this, i will do that and we come to an agreement. people need to keep their word, that is it. not even just the idea but the fact, we often talk about it but the choice, as alicia noted, the stark choice that is before the american people could not have been made more clear today, this week, frankly, with what we saw from president biden juxtaposed with the republican nominee. the nato , 80 years ago when ad happened, nato was not established. was allied troops that came together, the world came together and took the beaches of normandy. it was that time in normandy that turned the tide to end world war ii, it led to the establishment of nato world cooperation years later and we are in a severe moment, the president talked about linking ad to what is happening in ukraine and the fight right now , i want to play that for you and see how you guys talk about it on the other side. between dictatorship and freedom, it is unending. here in europe, we see one stark example , ukraine has been invaded by a tyrant for domination. ukrainians are fighting with extraordinary courage, suffering great losses, but never backing down. the united states and nato, a coalition of more than 50 countries, standing strong with ukraine. we will not walk away. mckay, it sounds to me like the president is standing in front of the world trying to convince people, making everyone feel okay that as long as i am here, we will be standing with ukraine but as the time magazine article said about a week ago about american presidents, they must earn their mandate and we don t know if joe biden will earn his. yeah, that s right. again, going throughout europe and talking to these european officials, the thing i heard again and again was, look , the biden administration has been great. they are doing everything they can to say the right things and they are trying to reassure allies who were around during trump s administration. at the end of the day, the biden administration can only do so much. i even spoke to officials in the biden administration in washington who say we are ambassadors out there, trying to reassure allies, they got their talking points. these people in europe are smart, right? they know the promises that joe biden is making only go so far and, you know, because the outcome of the election is going to determine the future of america s approach to alliances. mckay and olivia, you will stick with us and we will continue this conversation in just a moment. now to other breaking news is our. four israeli hostages have been rescued in raleigh a a live by idf. they were kidnapped from the nova music 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and how will this come together? reporter: michael, the idea is that these four hostages freed from gaza are in good condition medically. we have seen pictures of noa argamani, the viewers will remember, that young woman being taken into gaza from the music festival on october 7th on the back of that motorcycle, her hands outstretched to her boyfriend, who was also being kidnapped. he was marched away into gaza. we have seen images of her this morning at a hospital in the greater tel aviv area. you can see her there, reuniting her with her father. it is extraordinary to think that eight months and one day after she was kidnapped, she is smiling, she is laughing. she is speaking with her family. she spoke on the phone earlier today with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. it was very interesting, guys, she said in that phone call, i haven t spoken in hebrew in such a long time, which suggests she was being held on her own, away from other hostages. that does appear to chime in with the report we are getting from the israeli military, detailed, obviously, still emerging. just setting the scene here, this was in the center of gaza in broad daylight at 11:00 a.m. the israeli military says hundreds of soldiers took part, there was a part from air and by sea. they say they stormed two separate buildings that we believe noa argamani was being held on her own in one of those buildings and the three male hostages were being held in a separate building. at least one israeli soldier was seriously wounded in this raid but this seems to be the single greatest success in terms of hostage rescue we have had, that is ruled has had in the course of this eight months. you will remember, guys, only three other hostages had been rescued alive up until this point. today four hostages in just a couple of hours. now you can see noa argamani on your screen. she is speaking to israeli president isaac herzog, who was telling her just how overjoyed his rule is to see her say, to see her home. there have been celebrations across this country today. the lifeguards on the beach in tel aviv announcing the news over a loudspeaker. people jumping up and cheering in front of the mediterranean on this saturday here in is ruled. we met the father of noa argamani on october 8, less than 24 hours after his daughter had been kidnapped by hamas. he is at her side right now. her mother, as far as we know at this point, is not. her mother is dying of brain cancer. for these eight months she has been telling the world her dying wish was to see her daughter once again. she is in very serious condition at another hospital in tel aviv, but we believe mother and daughter are going to be reunited later on today. noa s boyfriend, who you see in that video from october 7th being marched by a crowd of militants into gaza, remains one of the 120 hostages still being held. this is obviously a moment of joy, while this is obviously a moment of joy for noa and her family, her partner remained inside gaza, his fate unknown at this hour, as is the fate of so many of those 120 other hostages. well there is celebration here in israel, there is mourning in gaza right now because there are reports of at least 50 people killed during this israeli raid. we know there was intense bombardment by israeli aircraft, by israeli ships to cover the special forces and moved in. we don t know how many of those 50 or so killed were militants, how many of them were civilians. this is just an enormous, enormous moment here in is ruled. it is really hard to overstate the happiness here. one israeli friend told me the whole country is crying. guys? nbc, thank you so much for that report. next with olivia troye and mckay coppins will be back with us to discuss mckay s new piece about a potential special second trump term and we will discuss the news breaking out of his rule. you are watching the weekend . e weekend . 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because he was afraid his hair would become disheveled. remember, that day it was raining. he did not want to go to the cemetery because it was raining. more importantly, to his staff, his senior staff he remarked, quote, why should i go to that cemetery? it s filled with losers. and then he referred to the more than 1800 marines who lost their lives as suckers for getting killed. olivia, in the context of the work you have done in foreign- policy, what does it mean to contrast, and i think it is important for the american people to get this contrast in leadership, a man who refuses to visit the men who sacrificed themselves for freedom and democracy on foreign shores, right, because he didn t want to get his hair messed up and looked at them as suckers and losers versus a president who stands on that hollowed ground and reminds us of our call to destinies, to destiny as citizens of the world, that this fight for democracy is an important battle and we must be engaged in it together. okay, i think it is a critical reminder of what trump views value to be in a situation like this, which is himself and no one else. there is no interest in military baller. he doesn t think about the lives of these people and going into critical international situations, where you are making decisions on troops, when you are making decisions on intelligence officers and what is the next step, deliberations that are very calculated, i want americans to remember that. these are your sons, your daughters, your brothers, sisters, moms and dads and remember that there is the potential to have a president back in the oval office that will make those decisions along the way where he will have complete disregard for what it truly means when these people deploy and what happens to them. in other ways, he has no regard or respect for the fact of what it means to serve, right? that is why you end up with classified documents at mar-a- lago because he forgets that in those classified documents there are lives at risk. there our sources there. there are people there put at risk every day with the possibility of that information getting into the wrong hands because he doesn t hear and he doesn t think about things that way. he only thinks about himself. this is a leader solely focused on his own qualities which is why, by the way, he doesn t think about the alliance with nato. he doesn t think about european allies that really actually have our backs should there be a critical moment when they need them. he is thinking about dictators and his best friends are people like victoire ben, these are leaders he looks up to. that is a direct contrast between what president biden is and what former president trump is. that is what we think about and remember. i think the top line from your extensively reported piece is that the allies are watching this election understanding the existential crisis. you have the last 30 seconds, you are take away. yeah, i mean, the two things that stood out to me in all my conversations in you are, one, they are intensely focused on this election in america. everybody is paying attention. according to polling data from battleground states. the second, almost all of them believe trump is going to win. i found myself in a position saying, it is not a foregone conclusion, it is a tight race, anything could happen. scared is the best way to put it. they are scared of what will happen to the nato alliance, to european security, what it will signal to russia, to china, if donald trump comes back into office and abandons his allies. they rely on american stability and americans steadfastness for its alliances and they do not think they will get that with donald trump. so chilling. mckay coppins and olivia troye, thank you so much for getting us started. as january 6th community committee members are in jail, we will talk to the directors of the new documentary next. you are watching the weekend . i thought i was sleeping ok. but i was waking up so tired. then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. their four point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better. and stay married. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. if you re living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills. good to go off the grid. good to go nonstop. with cabenuva, there s no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it s two injections from a healthcare provider. just 6 times a year. don t receive cabenuva if you re allergic to its ingredients or if you re taking certain medicines which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems, mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions, fever, and tiredness. with cabenuva, you re good to go. ask your doctor about switching. why would i use kayak to compare with cabenuva, you re good to go. hundreds of travel sites at once? 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i remember feeling like, whatever is in here that is heavy is what i will have to use you know? if it comes to that. andrea, when you look at this as a complete scenario, right, from start to finish, you now have president trump out here talking about giving basically solace to those insurrectionists by pardoning them and making the case that the january 6th committee members should be indicted. when you look at what you guys captured, juxtaposed against that background, what is your reaction? what should we know that donald trump clearly doesn t know about what happened that day? thank you. what i want, i want people to know what we now know. i think that we had the luxury of being able to spend over a year plus with our team looking and scouring the footage, finding the right people, finding six people who just went to work that day to tell the story and that what we stitched together from beginning of day to the end was one of the most violent, heartbreaking, gut punching days in american history. people think they know january 6th but they don t. they don t know the scale of the violence. everyone that was in the capitol that day thought they were going to die. there was the sense of 10,000 plus people surrounding this building and breaking in. it is criminal. it was violent. i think people just saw this in pieces. they don t quite understand the mass in the scale and the threat. we are so lucky more people did not die at the end of that day. we are eternally grateful to the people that did their job that day and the next day, who served in the legislature, congress, journalism and law enforcement. we should be thankful of the fact law enforcement is being booed at and hissed, they actually did their job and protecting the lives of the lawmakers that are now turning their back on what happened that day is despicable. you know? there is a code and ethic to every single person that we profile in this film about how they do their job and thank goodness they did. the outcome could have been so much worse if they hadn t. to that point about law enforcement, here is the photographer talking about the picture he took. if they wanted to kill him, they would have killed him. the man pleaded for his life. he told people he had kids. it is kind of crazy. if i had to put a dollar on it, i would say everybody was like, blue lives matter, blue lives matter. [ bleep ] didn t matter that day. i felt for him. i have a son. i thought about what it would feel like for him if some weak happened to me, you know? this is a another human being. part of what i appreciated is that you centered the voices of those who were impacted on that day but their reflections about the crowd and who showed up and the inconsistencies around their theories of justice, sean, are laid bare. yeah. we, i think it was important for us to give a voice to the people that went through that day and what they went through and personalize it. i think it is really important. i think, with the crowd there, we also did something i think was important. we listened in our area found. you hear things in our film you don t here in our own soundbites and it talks about, he is talking about being right next to this man pleading for his life, pleading because he has kids. you also hear how he is capturing all the different things the crowd is saying, the crowd is saying, take their guns. the crowd is saying, you are going to die tonight with such conviction you can hear it in their voice that you believe it. i think people need to take this all in as a beginning of the day to the end of the day through the personal experiences of the six people that we follow and kind of decide what you think about the people that were in the crowd that day, what their intentions were and what could have happened. what could have happened, i mean, there is a part in the film where former metropolitan police chief conti talks about a phone call that he had, he was part of that with mayor bowser and literally pleading for help from the national guard. the dee was deployed to the capitol to do something to help. the capitol police call for help, the national guard, this call was just, we will play a clip because it is so hard to believe. you wonder what trump would do if he were in office again, we know what he did on january 6th. take a listen. we had a phone call that was can be by myself, the mayor, the district of columbia d.c. national guard, the u. s. capitol police chief where he essentially was pleading for assistance from the national guard. in response to that, whoever on the other side from the representatives from the defense department, the discussion then switched to talking about optics and boots on the ground and what that would look like, which, you know, in a crisis situation, i don t care what it looks like. it looks like help to me. it took hours until the national guard was approved. donald trump put that video out. when he put that video out, people finally did go home. it just really feels like he knew what he was doing. that is a big part of it for me. when you step back, what the sub story i think you guys captured here is the other stuff that was going on in the face of all of the drama and the tragedy on the hill, the stub story was the white house wasn t doing anything. there was no real effort and i think that cut really embraces that part of it. when you are putting this story line together and you are talking it through, how did you capture that? you said, this is the other side of this. we could show you, you know, donald trump and the roosevelt room sitting there watching television eating a hamburger. you know that is what is going on. you know that was the rest of the story, why the d.c. police were so animated about the lack of response from federal law enforcement at the highest level. yeah, it was a different type of film for us. we had this huge kind of forensic timeline in our office. we were looking at all the different things, all the things playing out that day and when we stepped back and we said, where is the national guard? we know that, we know what happened. i know what happens, i see the national guard, they are always around. they do what they are supposed to do. we were just scratching our heads. why are we talking about this? it was actually andrea that so we needed to do a deep dive in that and then the chief started talking about that and he said, you know, he basically said the national guard is not here and i will do it and do my duty. the capitol is under attack. i will do whatever i can. i will get local law enforcement to come and help. that is what they did. why are not people talking about this? d.c. police for for hours, especially in the tunnel, four or five hours they were underhand to hand combat. police arrest people in under 10 minutes. they are not trained to fight hand to hand combat like that, you know? you could argue that the powers that be that had the authorization to release and deploy the guard to help weren t aware of what was going on. the entire world was watching what was going on. i think that is what is so upsetting. why wait that long? that is what we felt was so important. once we realized how soon they were asked and how many hours, everybody is seeing the horrific violence going down, this all could have been stopped. you are watching it in real time as the violence increases and spins out of control. it took them 15 minutes to get there when they were deployed. 15 minutes. andrea nix fine, sean fine, fine work, good work. the sixth is available to purchase on streaming platforms, please pick it up and view it. it is important. senate republican shootdown the chance to protect access to contraceptive . next hour, the president and ceo is at the table to discuss. be sure to follow are so on social media. are handle everywhere is @theweekendmsnbc. @theweekendmsnbc. it could be the start of a domino effect. new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. you want thicker, stronger, fuller hair? 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