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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg's moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don's paying so much for at&t, he's been waiting to update his equipment! there's a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don't have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. activity and less pain and more it's still go.com. i hanako montgomery and tokyo and this >> hi everyone. good morning to you. welcome to cnn this morning, it is saturday, june 8th. i'm amara walker i'm victor blackwell. thank you for joining us this morning. >> president biden begins the state visit portion of his trip to france. >> it starts with the welcome ceremony, which president biden is expected to depart for soon and then the ceremony will begin at the octave try-on. then there will be a parade, precession to the lose, a palace where biden, french president emmanuel macron will attend a working lunch and both leaders are expected to give statements to the press before macron welcomes the president. and the first lady to the famous musee d'orsay for a statement dinner. the close ties between the u.s. and france will be on full display today as biden continues to push his message of saving democracy and freedom following his d-day anniversary speech friday cnn senior white house correspondent kayla tausche is live and paris this morning. hello, kayla. we are expecting to see the president at the moment for this welcome ceremony. a walk us through what we will see today well, hello, or should we say bones zhou are from paris, amara today after a point in few days in normandy, the red carpet is now being rolled out in paris where president biden and president macron will now engage in a series of events to deepen the collapse variation between the two countries on a number of fronts, you will see them momentarily arriving at the arctic triomphe with local school children standing by them, they will travel to the elysee palace where they will have a working lunch. >> the two liters there are expected to discuss two issues. in particular in great detail, the ongoing wars in gaza, where president macron crown has broken with president biden and the ongoing war in ukraine where president macron here in europe has taken something of a leadership position, trying to galvanize the rest of europe to spend more on their collective defenses to produce more, of manufacture, more domestic weapons. in their own countries rather then outsource them and potentially have depleted supplies if there is a potential that war moves past ukraine into europe that is going to be one of the discussions that the two liters have today. and how does support the war in ukraine for the long haul, they're going to be preparing essentially joint positions to go into the g77 but next week and the natives summit that will happen next month. we're also expecting them to discuss climate change, artificial intelligence, and other matters of commercial importance at that state dinner tonight, which has been moved to the elysee palace from the musee d'orsay. we expect to luminaries from the business and diplomatic role to be on hand for president macron to fed president biden and a relationship that has deepened over the course of president biden's terms. the two leaders had a very high-profile falling out early in biden's term when he chose to essentially sign up with australia and the united kingdom to partner on the production of nuclear submarines for the indo-pacific where eight french contractor had previously been partnered to build some of those submarines. they were essentially excluded from that partnership and it took several months to bridge that rift now, after sharing a bond over several common goals, common themes, common ideals, the need to defend europe, the need to secure for europe, and the need to essentially protect the west and western ideology. they have grown much closer, but certainly president macron is keen to hear about president biden's prospects for reelection and whether as president biden has said, america is still back, amara i'll take, it kayla tausche, force there in paris. thank you very much, president biden commemorated the 80th anniversary of d-day with a speech in normandy. biden drew on the heroism of the us army rangers who scaled the cliffs of pointe-du-hoc on d-day in 1944 to urge americans to think for this either of the fight for democracy as a cause greater than themselves. and cautioned against isolationism not just to honor those who showed such a remarkable bravery on that day, june 6, 1944. it's listen to the echoes of their voices to hear them because they are summing us. and are summing us now. they ask us what will we do? they're not asking us to scale these cliffs, but they're asking us to stay true to what america stands for they're not asking us to give or risk our lives. but they are asking us to care for others and our country more than ourselves they're not asking us do their job they're asking us to do our job to protect freedom in our time, to defend democracy, to stand up aggression abroad. and at home be part of something bigger than ourselves. >> joining us now is daniel littmann, white house correspondent for politico. good morning to you, daniel. thanks. good morning for being with us. >> so let's talk about that speech that we heard from biden up on that famed clifftop obviously, there was some echoes of reagan's address at that same location in 1984 we heard biden there make his case for america's leadership in the world, but he also had a political pitch for those of us here at home. what did you make of what he had to say though he did not mention trump specifically? yeah, he was never going to mention donald trump by name. that would be a big headline because that would be a qbi accused of politicizing this historic memorial to these fall heroes and the people who actually were successful in storming the beaches. and so he has to walk a fine line between reminding americans and the world of democracies challenges today it's one of the top issues on the ballot in terms of what people of both sides think without making it too political and he can't make his entire election pitch all about democracy, given that a lot of americans face more common concerns about pain for bills paying for food and gas. and so they're not going about their lives thinking about democracy all day long. >> what do you think the white house is hoping will come up today's state visit with the french president well i think, the white house wants to send a message that the u.s. and france are aligned totally on ukraine. tried to see if they can move the ball forward in getting piece in gaza and israel. and i think they want also remind americans of the problem progress that they've accomplished in terms of pushing back russia from ukraine. they've had they have rare. this is one of their top foreign policy victories. but it's still uncertain and trump has said he is kind of less in zelensky's corner and people on the right are very skeptical of having a very drawn-out war and it's taken a long time to get weapons back to ukraine. and so they've had to they've had some tough spots in terms of zelenskyy is aides were saying, hey, one speech in normandy is not going to to help us out too much. we need weapons, we need training for pilots. >> if you look, just over the past several months, of course, macron and biden have been aligned when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to the big picture with ukraine and obviously trying to prevent putin from expanding his empire. and of course the war in israel. but macron has taken a different approach and the way he thinks the western world should defend ukraine and also the way that he has condemned israel more publicly. what will you be looking for when it comes to their joint statement? >> well, they usually work these things out, weighing advance and there's not gonna be that much daylight between the two liters on major themes, the u.s. france or are huge allies. but i'm going to what's interesting is that macron's team wanted a press conference joint press conference with biden. they turned that down. there is issues about an logistical issues they've also had disagreements about china, france, macron has been more warm towards president xi and france has wants to maintain their commercial relationship with china more than the u.s. and i expect that to be talked about a little bit in their joint statement and in their private meeting what about their political calculations as both leaders meet today, i mean, they're both suffering low approval ratings, right? >> so if you could just give us context on both their perspectives as they have this meeting well, most people don't vote based on foreign policy or a meeting with a foreign leader, not as many french americans who are looking at this relationship, but i think that macron and many european leaders are afraid about biden's political standing they don't want to deal with donald trump one more this, is someone who has said to vladimir putin, you can do whatever the hell you want. >> if those, if countries are not paying their nato dues and so that is something that is macron can't endorse biden, but he's giving him a bear hug during an election year and this is biden's only state visit abroad during the seizure. and so of course it has good timing. but europe is afraid that it's going to get abandoned by trump, who is going to be more isolationist if he wins reelection, what is significant that you have president biden on this state visit during a very busy election year, daniel let me get to see you as always. thank you. >> will continue to monitor events in paris and take you back there, live in just a moment. we're waiting president biden and first lady dr. jill biden, to depart. there in route to the aac to try on for that. welcome ceremony. we are also following division and disagreements within the israeli cabinet by one of the key members of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's war cabinet could exit today tomorrow on the whole story. >> how did drag becomes such a target for the political right? do you think drag queen story hours can be family-friendly? >> know, if they don't want a world of tolerance, they should be afraid. >> the whole story with anderson cooper tomorrow it hey, on cnn. >> when you're the leader disaster cleanup and restoration, how do you make like it never even happened serve for like ever even have getting your drink kitchen is easier than you think cabinets to go can design a beautiful high-quality, and affordable kitchen make over that is shore to wow, choose from thousands of the latest designer styles and color combinations i couldn't believe how quickly the turnaround was. >> you can't beat the price from the free 3d designed to install cabinets to go can do 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israel's war with hamas today, benny gantz, a key member of the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's war cabinet is expected to announce whether he will go through with his vow to leave the israeli government at a popular former defense minister said last month that he and his national unity the party would resign unless netanyahu came up with a plan for gaza's postwar future as well as bringing home the hostages. >> cnn has been wiedemann is an beirut for us and ben today was gantz's deadline for a naval plan do we have any idea if he may have changed his mind about resigning amara before we get to the question of benny gantz's political future, we're receiving reports from gaza that there's a major israeli military operation in the central part of the gaza strip focused on the nuseirat refugee camp and bidded bella were told that the main hospital they're the an aqsa martyrs hospital has already received 16 bodies and there are reports of hundreds of people injured, including many women and children. now, regarding benny gantz, last month, he said on the 8th of june he would withdraw from the war cabinet if prime minister benjamin netanyahu did not come up with some sort of plan for a post-war arrangement in gaza so to speak, today is 8 june and all indications are that he's going ahead with this it's resignation we understand that this evening at 8:00 p.m. local time, he will be holding a press conference and the expectation is that he will announce his withdrawal. now, he his party is not part of the the ruling coalition led by netanyahu. he joined the israeli war cabinet after 7 october, really, is part, a, part of a unity government. however, he has had differences his with prime minister netanyahu for many months. now he has been pressing for some sort of end to the war in gaza. but netanyahu doesn't seem to be in a great hurry to do that. now, we understand, however, that both of them basically agreed that they don't want the creation of a palestinian state something that president biden has pushed for eventually. and neither of them is in favor of the palestinian 40 running gaza after the war. nonetheless guns has had better relations with the biden administration. then the prime minister netanyahu gantz has actually gone to washington in defiance of the wishes of the prime minister but the fact that his party is not part of the ruling coalition means that his departure isn't necessarily going to result in the fall of the netanyahu government. it may however mean that the extremists in his cabinet will have even more influence on the prime minister timur emmer up, victor been wiedemann thank you so much. within our scene and military analysts, kernel cedric latent and cnn political and national security analyst david sanger is also a new york times white house national security correspondent and the author of a new cold war's, china's rise, russia's invasion and america struggled to defend the west, gentlemen, welcome, good to see you, colonel, let me start with you and kind of put together the news that we got from the top with ben wiedemann. and this expected departure of benny gantz does his departure dramatically change the execution of the war by the idf? said that there could be more extremist who have louder voices within this coalition of netanyahu's. what does the war cabinet without gantz look like on the ground? >> well, good morning, victor. i think it looks less moderate and if you can use the term moderate in quotation marks because the way the idf has conducted this effort, it, this war effort in gaza, it's really doesn't look like it's a an operation if they're handling with kid gloves, they're using brute force tactics in many instances and ben described at the top of his port there are still very major operations going on. so in the short term, the departure of the potential departure of defense minister against will not change those operations. and in fact, it could basically exacerbate debate the tensions that are already very high between the civilian population in gaza and the idf. so i think these are the kinds of things that we have to look for. i think that against this departure may result in even less moderate approach. when it comes to the conduct of the war david, betty guys gave netanyahu and ultimatum. he wanted to hear the plan to get the hostages back to israel. and what is the plan for a post-war gaza if he didn't get that, he was out on june 8th. he's not getting that and we'll get to that a little later. but what's the white? get house view of this likely departure well, on one hand, they are completely in gantz's camp. >> here it's the white house that has been pressing for a plan not only a short-term plan on the military sayyed, but an end game plan here for how gaza would be administered, for how long israeli tro
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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg's moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don's paying so much for at&t, he's been waiting to update his equipment! there's a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don't have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. activity and less pain and more it's still go.com. i hanako montgomery and tokyo and this >> hi everyone. good morning to you. welcome to cnn this morning, it is saturday, june 8th. i'm amara walker i'm victor blackwell. thank you for joining us this morning. >> president biden begins the state visit portion of his trip to france. >> it starts with the welcome ceremony, which president biden is expected to depart for soon and then the ceremony will begin at the octave try-on. then there will be a parade, precession to the lose, a palace where biden, french president emmanuel macron will attend a working lunch and both leaders are expected to give statements to the press before macron welcomes the president. and the first lady to the famous musee d'orsay for a statement dinner. the close ties between the u.s. and france will be on full display today as biden continues to push his message of saving democracy and freedom following his d-day anniversary speech friday cnn senior white house correspondent kayla tausche is live and paris this morning. hello, kayla. we are expecting to see the president at the moment for this welcome ceremony. a walk us through what we will see today well, hello, or should we say bones zhou are from paris, amara today after a point in few days in normandy, the red carpet is now being rolled out in paris where president biden and president macron will now engage in a series of events to deepen the collapse variation between the two countries on a number of fronts, you will see them momentarily arriving at the arctic triomphe with local school children standing by them, they will travel to the elysee palace where they will have a working lunch. >> the two liters there are expected to discuss two issues. in particular in great detail, the ongoing wars in gaza, where president macron crown has broken with president biden and the ongoing war in ukraine where president macron here in europe has taken something of a leadership position, trying to galvanize the rest of europe to spend more on their collective defenses to produce more, of manufacture, more domestic weapons. in their own countries rather then outsource them and potentially have depleted supplies if there is a potential that war moves past ukraine into europe that is going to be one of the discussions that the two liters have today. and how does support the war in ukraine for the long haul, they're going to be preparing essentially joint positions to go into the g77 but next week and the natives summit that will happen next month. we're also expecting them to discuss climate change, artificial intelligence, and other matters of commercial importance at that state dinner tonight, which has been moved to the elysee palace from the musee d'orsay. we expect to luminaries from the business and diplomatic role to be on hand for president macron to fed president biden and a relationship that has deepened over the course of president biden's terms. the two leaders had a very high-profile falling out early in biden's term when he chose to essentially sign up with australia and the united kingdom to partner on the production of nuclear submarines for the indo-pacific where eight french contractor had previously been partnered to build some of those submarines. they were essentially excluded from that partnership and it took several months to bridge that rift now, after sharing a bond over several common goals, common themes, common ideals, the need to defend europe, the need to secure for europe, and the need to essentially protect the west and western ideology. they have grown much closer, but certainly president macron is keen to hear about president biden's prospects for reelection and whether as president biden has said, america is still back, amara i'll take, it kayla tausche, force there in paris. thank you very much, president biden commemorated the 80th anniversary of d-day with a speech in normandy. biden drew on the heroism of the us army rangers who scaled the cliffs of pointe-du-hoc on d-day in 1944 to urge americans to think for this either of the fight for democracy as a cause greater than themselves. and cautioned against isolationism not just to honor those who showed such a remarkable bravery on that day, june 6, 1944. it's listen to the echoes of their voices to hear them because they are summing us. and are summing us now. they ask us what will we do? they're not asking us to scale these cliffs, but they're asking us to stay true to what america stands for they're not asking us to give or risk our lives. but they are asking us to care for others and our country more than ourselves they're not asking us do their job they're asking us to do our job to protect freedom in our time, to defend democracy, to stand up aggression abroad. and at home be part of something bigger than ourselves. >> joining us now is daniel littmann, white house correspondent for politico. good morning to you, daniel. thanks. good morning for being with us. >> so let's talk about that speech that we heard from biden up on that famed clifftop obviously, there was some echoes of reagan's address at that same location in 1984 we heard biden there make his case for america's leadership in the world, but he also had a political pitch for those of us here at home. what did you make of what he had to say though he did not mention trump specifically? yeah, he was never going to mention donald trump by name. that would be a big headline because that would be a qbi accused of politicizing this historic memorial to these fall heroes and the people who actually were successful in storming the beaches. and so he has to walk a fine line between reminding americans and the world of democracies challenges today it's one of the top issues on the ballot in terms of what people of both sides think without making it too political and he can't make his entire election pitch all about democracy, given that a lot of americans face more common concerns about pain for bills paying for food and gas. and so they're not going about their lives thinking about democracy all day long. >> what do you think the white house is hoping will come up today's state visit with the french president well i think, the white house wants to send a message that the u.s. and france are aligned totally on ukraine. tried to see if they can move the ball forward in getting piece in gaza and israel. and i think they want also remind americans of the problem progress that they've accomplished in terms of pushing back russia from ukraine. they've had they have rare. this is one of their top foreign policy victories. but it's still uncertain and trump has said he is kind of less in zelensky's corner and people on the right are very skeptical of having a very drawn-out war and it's taken a long time to get weapons back to ukraine. and so they've had to they've had some tough spots in terms of zelenskyy is aides were saying, hey, one speech in normandy is not going to to help us out too much. we need weapons, we need training for pilots. >> if you look, just over the past several months, of course, macron and biden have been aligned when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to the big picture with ukraine and obviously trying to prevent putin from expanding his empire. and of course the war in israel. but macron has taken a different approach and the way he thinks the western world should defend ukraine and also the way that he has condemned israel more publicly. what will you be looking for when it comes to their joint statement? >> well, they usually work these things out, weighing advance and there's not gonna be that much daylight between the two liters on major themes, the u.s. france or are huge allies. but i'm going to what's interesting is that macron's team wanted a press conference joint press conference with biden. they turned that down. there is issues about an logistical issues they've also had disagreements about china, france, macron has been more warm towards president xi and france has wants to maintain their commercial relationship with china more than the u.s. and i expect that to be talked about a little bit in their joint statement and in their private meeting what about their political calculations as both leaders meet today, i mean, they're both suffering low approval ratings, right? >> so if you could just give us context on both their perspectives as they have this meeting well, most people don't vote based on foreign policy or a meeting with a foreign leader, not as many french americans who are looking at this relationship, but i think that macron and many european leaders are afraid about biden's political standing they don't want to deal with donald trump one more this, is someone who has said to vladimir putin, you can do whatever the hell you want. >> if those, if countries are not paying their nato dues and so that is something that is macron can't endorse biden, but he's giving him a bear hug during an election year and this is biden's only state visit abroad during the seizure. and so of course it has good timing. but europe is afraid that it's going to get abandoned by trump, who is going to be more isolationist if he wins reelection, what is significant that you have president biden on this state visit during a very busy election year, daniel let me get to see you as always. thank you. >> will continue to monitor events in paris and take you back there, live in just a moment. we're waiting president biden and first lady dr. jill biden, to depart. there in route to the aac to try on for that. welcome ceremony. we are also following division and disagreements within the israeli cabinet by one of the key members of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's war cabinet could exit today tomorrow on the whole story. >> how did drag becomes such a target for the political right? do you think drag queen story hours can be family-friendly? >> know, if they don't want a world of tolerance, they should be afraid. >> the whole story with anderson cooper tomorrow it hey, on cnn. >> when you're the leader disaster cleanup and restoration, how do you make like it never even happened serve for like ever even have getting your drink kitchen is easier than you think cabinets to go can design a beautiful high-quality, and affordable kitchen make over that is shore to wow, choose from thousands of the latest designer styles and color combinations i couldn't believe how quickly the turnaround was. >> you can't beat the price from the free 3d designed to install cabinets to go can do it all visited cabinets to go showroom or cabinets to go.com to schedule your free design consultation today, cabinets to go, wow, for less i brought in a juror max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy and just two weeks here, i'll take that. >> sure. not to protein 30 grams protein one prim sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic bro sparks engineered for the spontaneous a dual action formula with the active ingredients of viagra and sialic faster acting and long-lasting grabbed the moment. >> get started at row.com slash sparks allergies with allegro. they won't stop me. nothing beats allegro. it's the fastest non drowsy 24 hour allergy relief live. your greatness this is a freemium hand selected bacon wrapped filet mignon that's aged for tenderness and trimmed to perfection. >> this is a neck tie. what do you think dad wants for father's day is it omaha steak.com slash tv to order the dads want state today for just 99, 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israel's war with hamas today, benny gantz, a key member of the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's war cabinet is expected to announce whether he will go through with his vow to leave the israeli government at a popular former defense minister said last month that he and his national unity the party would resign unless netanyahu came up with a plan for gaza's postwar future as well as bringing home the hostages. >> cnn has been wiedemann is an beirut for us and ben today was gantz's deadline for a naval plan do we have any idea if he may have changed his mind about resigning amara before we get to the question of benny gantz's political future, we're receiving reports from gaza that there's a major israeli military operation in the central part of the gaza strip focused on the nuseirat refugee camp and bidded bella were told that the main hospital they're the an aqsa martyrs hospital has already received 16 bodies and there are reports of hundreds of people injured, including many women and children. now, regarding benny gantz, last month, he said on the 8th of june he would withdraw from the war cabinet if prime minister benjamin netanyahu did not come up with some sort of plan for a post-war arrangement in gaza so to speak, today is 8 june and all indications are that he's going ahead with this it's resignation we understand that this evening at 8:00 p.m. local time, he will be holding a press conference and the expectation is that he will announce his withdrawal. now, he his party is not part of the the ruling coalition led by netanyahu. he joined the israeli war cabinet after 7 october, really, is part, a, part of a unity government. however, he has had differences his with prime minister netanyahu for many months. now he has been pressing for some sort of end to the war in gaza. but netanyahu doesn't seem to be in a great hurry to do that. now, we understand, however, that both of them basically agreed that they don't want the creation of a palestinian state something that president biden has pushed for eventually. and neither of them is in favor of the palestinian 40 running gaza after the war. nonetheless guns has had better relations with the biden administration. then the prime minister netanyahu gantz has actually gone to washington in defiance of the wishes of the prime minister but the fact that his party is not part of the ruling coalition means that his departure isn't necessarily going to result in the fall of the netanyahu government. it may however mean that the extremists in his cabinet will have even more influence on the prime minister timur emmer up, victor been wiedemann thank you so much. within our scene and military analysts, kernel cedric latent and cnn political and national security analyst david sanger is also a new york times white house national security correspondent and the author of a new cold war's, china's rise, russia's invasion and america struggled to defend the west, gentlemen, welcome, good to see you, colonel, let me start with you and kind of put together the news that we got from the top with ben wiedemann. and this expected departure of benny gantz does his departure dramatically change the execution of the war by the idf? said that there could be more extremist who have louder voices within this coalition of netanyahu's. what does the war cabinet without gantz look like on the ground? >> well, good morning, victor. i think it looks less moderate and if you can use the term moderate in quotation marks because the way the idf has conducted this effort, it, this war effort in gaza, it's really doesn't look like it's a an operation if they're handling with kid gloves, they're using brute force tactics in many instances and ben described at the top of his port there are still very major operations going on. so in the short term, the departure of the potential departure of defense minister against will not change those operations. and in fact, it could basically exacerbate debate the tensions that are already very high between the civilian population in gaza and the idf. so i think these are the kinds of things that we have to look for. i think that against this departure may result in even less moderate approach. when it comes to the conduct of the war david, betty guys gave netanyahu and ultimatum. he wanted to hear the plan to get the hostages back to israel. and what is the plan for a post-war gaza if he didn't get that, he was out on june 8th. he's not getting that and we'll get to that a little later. but what's the white? get house view of this likely departure well, on one hand, they are completely in gantz's camp. >> here it's the white house that has been pressing for a plan not only a short-term plan on the military sayyed, but an end game plan here for how gaza would be administered, for how long israeli tro