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i don't see him leaving all this. we'll see if the judge rules that it is a conflict for him to represent nauta as well because essentially what prosecutors are saying is that if tavares, this employee who used to be represented by woodward gets on the stan, then woodward would be questioning him under cross-examination. he could possibly incriminate nauta. >> we learned that de oliveira is asking for an earlier trial date than the may 2024 date. is that unusual? >> it is. trump's not the only person who wants to delay their trial. but one of the key questions is here will these defendants be tried together or separate. usually if a defendant wants to be tried separately, a judge will try to respect that because it could be tough for him to sit there next to donald trump. so it's possible that if this happens by the way, this could be a tactical play because it would help trump to see de
why prosecutors added to those additional charges against the former president, and against these other aides. they say that this information came from this i.t. worker, his name is -- and he was also represented by stan woodward, the same trump funded lawyer. after he made those initial statements saying he didn't know anything about the surveillance tapes, he changed his story after he got a new lawyer, a public defender, and said that not only was the president involved, but walt nauta and of course carlo is -- the property manager implicated all of them in the effort to delete the. that change in the story is what made prosecutors bring those additional charges. >> that superseding indictment. i want your take on this, it seems that the trump team
it worker -- >> this is employee number four in the original indictment. >> that's right. trump employee number fourm. according to prosecutors, he at first said he knew nothing about any conversations about the surveillance video and it appears, after he ditched his trump-funded lawyer and got representation from the public defender, he changed his story and he provided information to prosecutors according to this court filing and he implicated that the former president, walt nauta, his aide, as well as carlos de olivera were part of this. >> what did they want to judge to do? >> the prosecutors want the judge to declare that this is a conflict because stan woodward,
and so a prosecutor saying is that, look, this is a conflict, and his lawyer cannot be representing all these people. stan woodward had declined to comment to us when we reached out to him tonight. he has pushed back out prosecutors, saying that they are over blowing, they are overplaying what this conflict could represent. and that the judge could deal with this in a more narrow fashion, anderson. >> all right, evan perez -- cnn's legal analyst elie honig and what kaitlan collins -- and former trump communications director alyssa farah griffin and former judge nancy griffin or -- all it takes is get rid of the trump pack lawyer and suddenly this guy gets a public defender and flips. >> and comes clean. this happens all the time as a prosecutor. in an ideal world, everyone's would come in and tell you the full truth right off the bat. but that really happens. people come in and they live right off the bat about their own conduct, about others,
be cooperating with the special counsel's case. let's discuss this with senior justice correspondent, evan perez, and former nixon white house counsel and cnn contributor john dean. evan, i want to start with you. what are you learning from this filing now? it is interesting that this showed up at this particular stage in the investigation. >> what is happening is that prosecutors are trying to have the judge overseeing this case pay attention to potential conflicts, so that they see exist because stan woodward, who is a lawyer, paid for as you pointed out by the former presidents political operation, he is representing walt nada who is the former presidents aide, a close aide who is also a co defendant in this case. and, he is representing a couple of witnesses who may be called to testify at this trial. what emerges in this filing, it sort of gives an explanation of
share what you want to, and she was actually coaches say i do not recall on things she did -- i expect there will be more people together on attorneys because there are so many conflicting interests here. and i would actually just -- as well. >> -- a sense that this happened. we knew that carlos de oliveira had -- they had gone through his phone. they had seized it. no one had been charged. he had not been charged, officially. there has been the superseding indictment that came down, we are, we spoke to sources at the time we said it was very close that yuscil taveras who is known as employee number four here -- he is not the i. t. worker here in this -- and then it was that we like about than woodward and the fact that he had changed attorneys there. stay in woodward is someone who represents -- it's not just people in this case. he is representing people and other investigations surrounding donald trump as well. he is someone who is very close and very involved. i don't see him leaving all of this. we will see if the judge ruled that it is a conflict for him to represent walt nauta as well. because essentially what prosecutors are saying is that if yuscil taveras, this employee who used to be represented by stan woodward, gets on the stand, then stand woodward would be questioning
former presidents political operation. he is representing walt nauta, who is the former presidents aide, close aide, who is also a co defendant in this case. and, he is representing a couple of witnesses, who may be called to testify at this trial. and, what emerges in this filing is, it sort of gives an explanation of why prosecutors added those additional charges against the former president. and, against these other aides. and, they say this information came from this i. t. worker. his name is use -- yuscil taveras and he was also represented by stan woodward, the same trump funded lawyer. and, after he made those initial statements, saying he didn't know anything about the surveillance tapes, he changed his story, after he got a new lawyer, a public defender.
a trump employee changed his story in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. according to a new filing from federal prosecutors tonight, an i. t. worker, whose attorney was paid for by trump's political action committee, initially told prosecutors that he didn't remember any conversations about security footage at mar-a-lago. but now, that employ appears to be cooperating with the special counsel's case. let's discuss this with senior justice correspondent evan perez, and former nixon white house counsel and cnn contributor john dean. so evan, i want to start with you, what are we learning from this filing now? it's interesting that this showed up, at this particular stage, in the investigation. >> right. well, what's happening is that the prosecutors are trying to have the judge overseeing this case, pay attention to potential conflicts, that they see exists, because stan woodward, who is a lawyer paid for, as you pointed out, by the
judge cannon, to have what's called a garcia hearing. and that means, that's old, law -- it goes back to 1975, where a defendant like walt nauta, is entitled to know, in an open hearing, or part of it could -- be theoretically, what the conflict is. and, what his lawyer may or may not be able to do, in cross-examine witnesses who are against him. that is not clear at all right now. it's really not a very attractive position for the lawyer to be in, because you cannot have a conflict between your clients. and, there's certainly appears to be a very serious conflict for stan woodward, with his prior clients and witnesses and waltz nauta. >> so, john and evan, just as we are speaking here, we are just receiving now, into cnn, the first mug shots from the folks who surrendered today. that is john eastman you are