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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

biden to run again 51% of democrats, and nearly half are citing his age. how big of a deal is that? >> you know, i do not think it is as big a deal as you ma think. they elected him president jus a few years ago, they know how old he is. this is not a news flash the thing is that what president biden has done in hi campaign video is somethin that i think that he shoul lean into even more, and tha is patriotism. not just talking about honesty and decency, but really lean into patriotism. >> what it actually means. >> the democratic party righ now is the only party that i pro democracy, both here i america and abroad he should be leaning into that the republican party is not th party of national security anymore. president biden should b taking that and talking abou that all the time. i think that he started today. >> they have taken the wor patriot. wes moore, the democrati

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

here in america and abroad and he should be leaning int that the republican party is not th party of national security anymore. president biden should b taking that and talking abou that all the time. and i think that he starte today. >> they have taken the wor patriot. wes moore, the democrati governor of maryland talks about it all the time. joining our conversation i mike murphy, veteran republica strategist and co-director o the center for the political future at the university o southern california. okay, michael if peoples issue with president biden is his age, that is not going to change. it is what it is but let's talk about what he has done he has gotten a lot done from policy perspective but polling shows that his approval rating is only at 41% why aren't his policy wins translating? there are a lot of peopl who've benefited from them and a lot more going forward >> he has got a lot done, bunch of it with republicans support particularly in th senate but he gets very little credit for it if i were the biden campaign

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Ayman

there is an indictment, what i the political cost for republicans for what they trie to do their? >> well, i mean, it seems to m one cost, of course, would b the presidency it will certainly blow up th party in a certain sense but these people don't reall care about the rule of law it's one thing i tend to think of republicans in this particular moment as believing that liberty is fo them, authorities for the rest of us. so what it would mean for them of course, it will hurt thei political chances. but i think it's reall important for us, the poll dat is insightful, but if the la has been broken in new york, i the law has been broken in georgia, if the law has been broken in d.c., it needs to be held to account in each of those faces, no matter what is being viewed as more important but the political cost hopefully, well should be, i should be, that the republican party is no longer seen as a kind of a legitimate secon

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Ayman

fake electors to the tune of about $300,000 and some change it seems like money is not the objects here for republicans i defending what happened in georgia. what is the political caused i this is true what they did, an there is an indictment, what i the political cost for republicans for what they trie to do there? >> well, i mean, it seems to m one cost, of course, would b the presidency it will certainly blow up th party in a certain sense but these people don't reall care about the rule of law it's one thing i tend to think of republicans in this particular moment as believing that liberty is fo them, authorities for the rest of us. so what it would mean for them of course, it will hurt thei political chances. but i think it's reall important for us, the poll dat is insightful, but if the la has been broken in new york, i the law has been broken in georgia, if the law has been

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Velshi

do think that even though he i now someone who has been twice impeached, wants indicted, all of those things should b working against him. these polling numbers take all of that into account and still almost half the country says they would vote for th eventual republican nomine knowing full well that the polls tell them that is likely to be donald trump >> let's talk about that par of things, michael, the idea that a 68% a republican primar voters believe that the charge against all trump ar politically motivated and that it is their responsibilities t stand between politicall motivated charges agains former president and anythin else >> that's clear. that number is overwhelmin 68%. you also look at this when you talk about these other candidates whether it be team scarred o asa hutchinson even iran desantis in particular the ones that ar looking for that language we talked about these are people that have sai that they're there to unify th party. that they need to go back to

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Alex Witt Reports

making sure that we are holdin us to account on those sam issues that young people are marching on, are fighting for. >> all right categorical support as you saw there from the first to. and then, when you listen to representative lee, a little bit of well i support th party. , don how do you interpret wha you said and which respons reflects the majority whethe publicly are behind the scenes especially given the polling numbers are shared at the top. >> even with representativ lees deviation, but not really deviation there, what we are seeing is three members of the house. these are investors in the democratic party, who ar saying that they wil ultimately support the president. will support the democrati nominee, who will be joe biden at the end of the day, there will not be substantia democratic support to galvaniz behind anybody but joe biden but i see what summerlea i doing there. she is signaling t progressives that we will hold him accountable, then we wil make sure that he is doing wha we are marching in voting an saying for at the end of the, day nobod

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Yasmin Vossoughian Reports

analyst for us on nbc. brandon, let me start with you and talk to me about you expectations with the polls, we're looking at some of these numbers, right 70% overall are sticking by th former president in spite of these most recent indictment and whatever else may be looming. but when you do this break out donald trump, ron desantis a the top. but desantis trailing there in the 30s or so. nobody else in the doubl digits are you surprised by this? >> now, what we've seen is tha donald trump is reestablishe himself as the front runner. which is probably pretty normal, he was the last republican president, strong stranglehold over a lot of people in th party really the story i rhonda santas slipping this wa someone who was ready to declare the front runner himself, not long ago. and kelly started really tryin to get out there and campaign. obviously, -

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Yasmin Vossoughian Reports

talking with my voters that -- even if they like, trump eve if they don't think that any o the things going against him right now are fair, some o them are willing to admit that there is a baggage problem her that other candidates might no have and so they might be looking for an alternative but at the same, time at thi point in the, race it is a nam i.d. function. no one's gonna have a higher name identification than the former president second, him maybe might be someone like, desantis because we talk about him a lot. mike pence, should be in tha conversation, but he has not quite seen a polling boost so i think we're gonna have to watch over the course of the next few, months in states tha matter like here in iowa, wher trump has not always done well other candidates have a better profile for a state like this. could that allow them to jum the pack i don't know, it's early voters would say that. to their can that it shoppin right now, even as nationall trump has a clear hold on th party. >> ali vitale, it's great to talk to my

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Symone

how does that help, how does that hurt, are the republicans really prepared to lead on the abortion question or will they get off it and move on >> you talk about an issue where somebody has a opportunity to contras himself. we are a party that caught the -- dog caught the car we don't really know what to do instead of having any type o national message of how we wan to approach these issues, we are being defined by a bunch o state legislators. whether it is in texas o florida or georgia it is state lawmakers that are making decisions for the party and you know, as you said, w have always said this is something we should leave to the states but it used to be said that we would say that because we said we wanted to have reasonable restrictions and a middl ground that everyone can agree on but instead so many states are going far beyond what anybod believes is reasonable there is really no recourse at a national level to grab thi back, there is no congress wil step in here once again, we are left fo trusting the win here withou national messaging i think the democrats are goin

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breach the white house there is a reason why kamala harris was down in tennessee just a week ago. we notice that the amplification of eradicating our democracy is partially wha the republican party i standing on. that is a huge risk we take in allowing a republican speake to be able to advance to the presidency again because the republican parties the party of trump whether trump or desantis, the see seeing from the same son book >> so real quick for you brandon, on the abortion question which is sort o really been hitting republican in a way that really kind of changes the narrative for them politico has recently reported details about this disagreemen among many republican lawmakers. on whether a 15-week federal ban, abortion ban is worth pursuing where is the issue should be left to the states as they sai it would be. senator lindsey graham for example sponsored that bill. so give me your sense of where this issue, among probably som others, but this one especially,

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