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>> well, it's consistent with us because he mailed this book to us. it was a how-to book of how to sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have
sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice -- violation of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have kiddy porn laws is because the very act of taking a photograph
obscenity. they say he sold them a copy, purportedly his last copy, and autographed one of this book called "the pedophile's guide to love and pleasure: a child-lover's code of conduct." got to tell you the title alone is chilling. the author telling abc news he was trying to stir up controversy and sales. not much county he also truly believes what he's selling. listen to his defense of pedophiles. >> every time you see them on television they're either murderers, rapist or kidnappers and that's just not an accurate presentation of that particular sexuality. to tell you the truth, i don't think that it's always bad for the child. okay? but i do think it's always confining for the adult because there are so many more things that adults can enjoy between each other than they can enjoy with a child without hurting the child. >> kissing, fondling, that sort of thing, i don't think is that serious of a problem. >> not that serious of a problem? not always bad for the child?
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is, that is protected under our constitution. >> sheriff judd, there's a lot of distasteful material out there and i was going to the amazon.com today, "diary of a pedophile" lots of books that people could be concerned about based on what you're saying. what do you do about books like that? how does this stay consistent in your own mind? >> well, it's consistent with us because he mailed this book to us. it was a how-to book of how to sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the
this is jeffrey toobin and the sheriff from polk county, florida. thank you so much. sheriff -- >> my honor to be here. >> thank you, sir. you were in charge of what was essentially an undercover operation that led to greaves' arrest. you're in florida. how did your office get involved in the first place? he lives in colorado and has no real connection to the state of the florida. >> we watched anderson cooper on cnn and other national broadcasts and people ringing their hands saying there's nothing we can do. free speech, free speech. this has nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with obscenity. we had a law in florida that applied we only needed jurisdiction. we consulted our state attorney's office, brad copaly and our state attorney, jerry hill. they said if you can get jurisdiction, bring us a case. my detectives did a fantastic job and that's what we did. we took them an autographed book that phillip sent to us.
applied we only needed jurisdiction. we consulted our state attorney's office, brad copaly and our state attorney, jerry hill. they said if you can get jurisdiction, bring us a case. my detectives did a fantastic job and that's what we did. we took them an autographed book that phillip sent to us. that gave us jurisdiction. a circuit judge gave us a warrant and the rest is history. he's in jail. >> now, police in colorado just to be clear, sheriff, did investigate grooefs last month after the story came out but found that he wasn't violating colorado law. how does that work? is it because the internet and its impact on the entire world? >> well, the internet has made everything a local event. and what our law says is that you can't set in colorado, and violate florida law any more than you can sit in florida and violate florida law. when he transmitted, sold or delivered that book to us, and
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>> kissing, fondling, that sort of thing, i don't think is that serious of a problem. >> not that serious of a problem? not always bad for the child? phillips greaves talking about his book and here's some passages from it. but i'll warn you, they are disturbing. >> pedophiles feel great affection for their young partners and do everything possible to avoid causing them any pain. or this -- they are concerned for the well-being and pleasure of their little friends, always putting the juvenile's pleasure and happiness first. and -- if both partners are disease-free, then it is unnecessary for either to take any preventive measures during sex or to be concerned regarding any bodily fluids or their exchange. those are passages from a "the pedophile's guide to love and pleasure: a child-lover's code of conduct" which he self-published and sold on amazon, even though amazon has a policy against selling pornography or what it calls extremely disturbing materials. we've been on front with this story trying to get answers from amazon. we begin as always, "keeping them honest."
we led the with way trying to hold amazon accountable for selling it now the book is gone and the author is in jail. "keeping them honest." as disgusting as this book may be is it protected by the first amendment? and if the author lives in colorado how can the state of florida have him arrested? also tonight, promises promises. has keeping them and patsing legislation he said he would turned around president obama's chances for 2012? even if not everyone likes what he's accomplished? you'll hear from both sides. you decide for yourself. and michael vick, he wants a dog. now, he did time for breeding, torturing and fighting them. now he says he wants to show people he genuinely cares. is this like giving matches to an arsonist or a legitimate way to rehabilitate someone? you might be surprised that what some add case for animals have to say. we begin as we always do, "keeping them honest." tonight, the author who advocates pedophilia is in jail. phillip greaves ii arrested at his home today in pueblo,