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it, isn't that grounds for impeachment all by itself? you're going to not give aid to an ally in russia because it's a conspiracy theory? >> it's one thing to undermine the community's assessment. if you are truly going rogue and using conspiracy theories as your guide as opposed to well articulated financial position, yes, that's a problem. but the argument here for me is the phrase "impeachable." is this notion of political rival, his argument is going to be not only that you didn't hear the comment but the notion that, i wasn't trying to investigate my political rival and that wasn't my goal. my goal are my views on corruption in general with the statement about burisma and other things. if that is the course of action
zelensky was planning to say anything about the investigations on the interview. it wouldn't be unusual for a political figure to have, in his or her mind, to say some things in an interview. of course, they wouldn't tell cnn. but the cancellation of the interview does time pretty closely with the point at which the story broke wide open. >> well, they're going to keep mentioning your name because two things happened where that sequence of events will keep coming up a little bit more with the hearings today, but really the argument is to come. and the first one is, why did they release the aid? what's the good reason for them releasing the aid if it wasn't just for them being exposed? the second one is why didn't president zelensky do the interview which is true what the aide said, well, they wanted to do the investigations. they were cleaning up
corruptive. this is the beginning of the downward spiral in ukraine in terms of corruption charges. paul manafort would have been taking a lot of money from the pro-russian oligarchs of the president. so trump has never forgiven the ukranians for outing his campaign and his campaign manager on that front, and this is payback. and in order to achieve that, republicans have embraced this bizarre conspiracy theory is so bizarre that the deputy secretary, george kent, only knew about this when he read the transcript. he wasn't aware this was a conspiracy theory and nobody believed him. >> fareed, thank you so much. it's always interesting to have this kind of role in this historic setting. your name comes up, it's great to have it explained, and we'll see how it all winds up and
seems just bizarre, if not outright false. that was not an obscure fact. people who don't follow these issues carefully knew that the vice president's son worked there under, frankly, suspicious circumstances. it was a controversy that wasn't new to this moment. i mean, the fact that hunter biden, who appears to have no qualifications for that role other than being the vice president's son, that was a story. >> correct. >> and the idea that volker and sondland, sondland just didn't know that, is -- it just seems bizarre. >> looks unethical now, looked unethical then. we just saw dr. hill reentering, confident, candid, as she has been this morning. that is as good an indication as any, that this is about to resume. as they take their places, let's take a break before we resume and hopefully get the timing
impeachment of bill clinton. by the time it got to the senate, there was a lot of fatigue. >> i bet you were making the same arguments you're making now. >> no, i wasn't. the republican senators, they just want to get off the plate. there was so much antipathy amongst the american people, they just want to move on. during an election year, it's going to be even bigger, i think. >> that's why we need to look at the strategy here. the elephant in the room for all of this is about whether this has been an exercise in futility when it comes to the removal of the president of the united states. so much in the house has been about whether someone is truly going to be added. it's also about here's the story, these are the facts. no one has a clean-cut punch to these things to attack it, then
he kind of set, that wasn't my goal, that wasn't necessary to affect my goal. were you surprised about that? >> it is just so late laden wio many political motives. i think that is another example. i think part of that quote, i forget the exact terms are used, i'm not sure whether i used the term steele dossier. i wonder if he used the term dodgy dossier because that's exactly what it was. it is so beyond any common sense. what's interesting, over the last 24 hours, week or so as this has sort of become the big news item, i was always wondering, how come i never got got -- out from the fbi never reached out to me after i sent them a letter in september of 2016, offering to talk to them? you know, these safety -- >> laura: i don't mean to
it's positive. although there are quite a few also negative responses. jenna: you're from this area that you've served for nearly 40 years. tell us a little bit about who you think will be carrying weapons. >> well, we know who carries weapons here. we process all the pistol permits here. you know, i'm extremely confident of the pistol permit hold tokers here in ulster county. we don't have any problems or have had very few problems with anybody that is a legal, licensed handgun carrier. jenna: is part of your motivation to put out this message to anyone bad who could try to do wrong in your community as a warning that people could be armed? >> well, that wasn't my goal, although i'm sure they could probably take it that way. i'm not looking for a fight, just really wanted to remind our hand gun, licensed handgun owners that if you're proficient with it and you're responsible, and, you know, you should be out there. law enforcement and the
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again, i was thinking it was a little strange, but i didn't quite realize it until i looked out the window of the bus. the airplane had a cordon of soldiers in front of the boarding ramp, and they were, i guess, searching people. this can't be happening. this -- i'm looking at it, but i'm still saying this can't be happening. not to me. [ speaking foreign language ] >> i didn't know what to do. i acted like i dropped my passport. i was sort of on the floor thinking, what am i going to do? well, i would have hidden under the seat and stayed there. >> anything wrong?
i knew people could get arrested. i know that sentences were severe in places. but it wasn't going to happen to me. i knew i was way too smart and good-looking to ever get arrested. and i -- i really believed that. i didn't have to act at all in the walking because the cast itself creates the very motion you need to do. and it's heavy. and it's awkward because you are clumping and clumping and clumping. got to the customs, gave them my passport. luggage was checked. like everybody, they look in your bag, but not much. so they passed me through. the part i was nervous about was kennedy. what's going to happen when i come back there?