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Chris Jansing Reports

thank you both for joining us this afternoon. congressman, i want to start with you, representative tim burchett says he's 100% sure the federal government is covering up documents about ufos, do you agree? >> oh, i think tim is right. there's definitely information that the u.s. government is keeping, not just from the american people but from congress. i mean you're talking about satellite imagery, you're talking about pictures, radar data. these pilots are interacting with these things in realtime. these are legit pilots with decorated backgrounds who are coming forward with whistleblower status, you know, testifying in hearings under oath of what they interacted with. you know, there's some video of that. but listen, i was saying in the hearing, you know, when a russian jet interacts with one of the american drones, and damages its propeller, we get immediate video of that. we get immediate pictures that gets released to the american public and world to show what

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Morning Joe

the waters despite having no proof or anything substantiated connecting joe biden to sort of any illegal activity. nevertheless, there are a host of whistleblowers, people whom democrats are accusing of exploiting this whistleblower status who continue to claim to have dirt on the bidens. >> katie, we've said before that some legal experts i have been talking to offered sort of a dialectal analysis that if his last name wasn't biden, the charges may have never been brought, and also the last name biden may have provided a better deal than a lot of other people get. reading your story and looking at your reporting, the entire hunter biden episode requires dialectal thinking because as you say, it doesn't give either side the narrative they want. >> absolutely. i mean, when you look at this investigation, it took five years. it began multiple attorneys

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Fox Report With Jon Scott

>> or is recourse in the perspective of oversight for the visual came for the ways and means committee this past week and testify. when you have that information soon. some of that will become public because the whistleblower status. the work that process. but congress needs to do is use the appropriations process are ratcheting this back. weeks before the irs whistleblower made those disclosures through his counsel, we had the irs commissioner before the committee had testified under oath that he would not retaliate against whistleblowers. that is absolutely what they have done. he lied to congress and the d.o.j. obviously directed him to do this. so now merrick garland also lied to congress. they said they would not retaliate. congress needs to make refe referrals. criminal referrals the d.o.j. on the is run by the white house the democrats. we at least need to do it to show the american people this type of behavior cannot be

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

more than just these employees that we are aware of that they're having issues. with >> joyce, i want to go deeper on what frank touchdown for a moment. the term whistleblowers. right and left are arguing about how we are classifying these three witnesses. >> right, so, frank gets it right here. whistleblowers are people who work for an agency and come forward to record a number of things. they can report illegal contact, they could report fraud, they could report waste. they are these specified categories. but they can't do is come forward and say i don't want to work on this investigation i was ordered to work on. somehow, claiming the protections that come with whistleblower status. these are people who are revealing important secrets that are held internally by the fbi, and in this case, it seems very likely that some of what they've disclosed has to do with active, ongoing cases, and that is limited and rightfully so to these clear situations where there is a form of

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

that we are aware of that they're having issues. with >> joyce, i want to go deeper on what frank touchdown for a moment. the term whistleblowers. right and left are arguing about how we are classifying these three witnesses. >> right, so, frank gets it right here. whistleblowers are people who work for an agency and come forward to record a number of things. they can report illegal contact, they could report fraud, they could report waste. they are these specified categories. but they can't do is come forward and say i don't want to work on this investigation i was ordered to work on. somehow, claiming the protections that come with whistleblower status. these are people who are revealing important secrets that are held internally by the fbi, and in this case, it seems very likely that some of what they've disclosed has to do

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CNN Newsroom Live

the enumeration of grievances does not constitute whistleblower status. >> reporter: a letter said certain fbi employees had security clearances revoked after espousing alternate theories about the january 6th attack on the capitol. the witnesses claim that's retaliation. >> it appears that i was retaliated against because i forwarded information to my superiors and others that questioned the official narratives of the events of january 6th. >> reporter: among the reasons fbi staff operation specialist marcus allen had his security clearance pulled? trying to hinder investigations into january 6th rioters the fbi wrote. >> the claim i obstructed a lawful investigation is dubious and i do not recall ever being admonished for such infraction. >> reporter: his clearance was first suspended in january 2022 according to the fbi. in one email allen told colleagues to exercise extreme caution and discretion in pursuit of any investigative inquiries or leads pertaining to the events of january 6th. he also suggested federal law enforcement infiltrated the january 6th crowd. the committee also heard today from former fbi agent steve

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Americas Newsroom

to go out and actively smear individuals making the disclosures is far worse. that's what the democrats on this committee did when they released a march report gop witnesses what their disclosures indicate. it was inaccurate both on the law and the facts. the law doesn't define the term whistleblower. instead it protects from retaliation individuals who engage in protected activity. for over a century simply making disclosures of any information to congress has been a protected activity. furthermore, an appropriations rider in effect at this time prohibits money from paying the salary of any federal employee who prohibits or prevents any other federal employee from communicating with congress. the democrats report denied whistleblower status to individuals engaged in the precise activity the legislative branch has considered protected since 1912. the reports reliance on evidence for whistleblower status is misplaced. simply communicating a reasonable belief of misconduct

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The Faulkner Focus

all have employment grievances. it doesn't make you whistleblowers. maybe the grievances are legitimate. i'm sorry for the situation in which you find yourselves, but this is not a forum for individual members of any agency, federal agency, unless there is a broad pattern of discrimination or violation of law, to err their employment grievances. i must say listening to this hearing, i don't walk away convinced of anything other than we're listening to sad tales of certain individuals about their situation. and en numb ration of grievances does not constitute whistleblower status. i'm not quite sure why we had this hearing. i certainly don't think it proves some consistent pattern of wrongdoing by the federal bureau of investigation. and i've heard some things here

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The ReidOut

guys fit that bill? >> yeah, let's start with the quick answer on the last part. no. none of them have official whistleblower status because none of them chose to go through the approved paths, plural, that you can become designated as a whistleblower. a whistleblower is supposed to be reporting waste, fraud, or abuse or retaliation for becoming a whistleblower. you do it through, in the fbi, you do it through fbi first and/or go across the street to doj and you have the office of inspector general, the office of professional responsibility. it's all laid out there. in fact, it's posted in employee break rooms and on the fbi internet. you can't pretend you don't know how to report waste, fraud, and abuse. the only fraud i saw today was what jim jordan was trying to do, to promulgate a fraud on all of us by insisting these poor fbi employees had been retaliated against simply for

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The ReidOut

clearance revocation to me. >> it does. to that point, doug, i want to follow up with you and have you take a listen to exchange between representative debbie wasserman schultz and questioning the witnesses regarding their whistleblower status to frank's point. >> mr. chairman, these individuals have been determined not to be whistleblowers this are not whistleblowers. they have been determined by the agency not to be whistleblowers. are you deciding they're whistleblowers? >> yes, the law decides. did you not listen to the testimony, read the law. >> his attorney is asserting they're whistleblowers. the law does not determine they are whistleblowers. >> so the circus side of that notwithstanding, doug, how does this committee expect to be taken seriously when the agency itself is looking at these individuals and saying, they're

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