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watch this. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was, he was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. and he was, he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said, there's no reason for this. >> all right. maybe gloria has a point, timothy, because the fact check -- here are the facts. jackson died well before the civil war. it's comments like these that leave everyone scratching their head. where does he get this stuff? >> all right. trump is the least historically knowledgeable president of the modern era. my guess about andrew jackson is that he knew that barack obama wanted to change and take andrew jackson off the $20 bill and
after her into new hampshire, no one talks about the fact that jefferson, of course, and sally hemings' rape and the children she had by him. and andrew johnson is more the president because he should have been impeached. he was the one who followed abraham lincoln and turned the clock back on reconstruction. so there's so much that we can say about different presidents and their portraits. my major concern is educating people as to who andrew jackson is or was and what he did, you probably gave people more information in that introduction about him than most school children and other people even know about andrew jackson. >> wow. that is -- that's pretty sad. i mean, tim, president trump has made, as i said in the opening here in the introduction here, he's made no secret for his admiration for andrew jackson. remember, this is sirius xm, 2017, this is what he told them. watch this. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war.
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>> i don't know what the motivation is. but if the president wanted to happen, it would happen. >> let's just play him talking about andrew jackson, this is back in 2017. >> had andrew jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. >> he has also -- and congresswoman presley made this point too that he's also said put harriet tubman on the $2 bill. he's elevated andrew jackson and disparaged harriet tubman before. >> absolutely. and when he said he was angry or whatever, i don't even understand what all that is. it is and i h but the country supports this and she is a wonderful hero. so why not do it.
and she has her dog there and other dogs are humping her dog. she calls the cops. >> why are you calling the cops right now because i told you i wasn't leaving the park. i told you i'm not leaving. >> oh, my god, he's assaulting my dog, i love when you can call the cops on people just because a dog humps your dog. let me call the cops. i'll bet if i was white you wouldn't have called the cops. jesse: this culture is going down the tubes, calling the police because a dog gets a little frisky in the park. you are not going to defend this woman, are you? >> i'm not going to defend her, even though dog parks have rules. jesse: do they say no humping at
and she has her dog there and other dogs are humping her dog. she calls the cops. >> why are you calling the cops right now because i told you i wasn't leaving the park. i told you i'm not leaving. >> oh, my god, he's assaulting my dog, i love when you can call the cops on people just because a dog humps your dog. let me call the cops. i'll bet if i was white you wouldn't have called the cops. jesse: this culture is going down the tubes, calling the police because a dog gets a little frisky in the park. you are not going to defend this woman, are you? >> i'm not going to defend her, even though dog parks have rules. jesse: do they say no humping at
and she has her dog there and other dogs are humping her dog. she calls the cops. >> why are you calling the cops right now because i told you i wasn't leaving the park. i told you i'm not leaving. >> oh, my god, he's assaulting my dog, i love when you can call the cops on people just because a dog humps your dog. let me call the cops. i'll bet if i was white you wouldn't have called the cops. jesse: this culture is going down the tubes, calling the police because a dog gets a little frisky in the park. you are not going to defend this woman, are you? >> i'm not going to defend her, even though dog parks have rules. jesse: do they say no humping at
and now we have it. likewise, 100-plus years ago, we had separate but equal or the jim crow laws that said african-americans and whites can be separated in public accommodations. and then, of course, many, many decades it took before we have brown versus board of education. so there's a lot of precedent historically of time starting the ball rolling and what would be on a don quixote effort to change the law and that ultimately gives rise to a successful supreme court outcome that changes not the constitution but the interpretation of the constitution. >> well, but the problem is though there -- >> what donald trump is doing is kicking off the football at the start of a football game. >> that's not what he said. he said he could kick the football, run down the other end, catch it and run it back for a touchdown. that's what he said. and, unfortunately, somebody like you have to own that, although you wouldn't have stated the proposition that way. however, there's a fundamental difference, norm, between those other examples and the one we