get these guys off my radio. >> juan: a democratic congressman getting a little hysterical over the prospect of defunding npr. we'll show you his shocking outburst on the house floor. >> kudos to you. >> juan: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> juan: hi, i'm juan williams in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. no talking points memo but lots of big, big stories. in a moment we will bring you update on the nuclear radiation threat in japan. but we start tonight in libya after weeks of dithering the united nations finally authorized a no-fly zone just last night. but that didn't stop colonel muammar qaddafi. today as his forces bombarded the rebel held city of misurata with tanks and heavy artillery. killing 25. including several little girls. the slaughter happened after qaddafi's foreign minister announced a cease-fire. this afternoon president obama addressed the unfolding crisis. >> now, once more, my maury mur march qaddafi has a choice. clear conditions that must be met. these terms are not negotiable. these terms are not subject to negotiation. if qaddafi does not comply with the resolution, the international community will impose consequences. and the resolution will be enforced through military action. >> joining us now from washington lt. colonel ralph peters, fox news strategic analyst and the author of the book "the officers club." colonel peters, thanks for coming in. i watched the news conference and afterwards, here is the thought i had. is an there an iron fist that right now that says the united states of america is on it that is ready to tattoo "america's newsroom" -- muammar qaddafi's headlines drew in the sand today. >> no. president obama, the guy he was doing so well, the speech sounded good. and then with one line he destroyed it all when he said that we will not go one step beyond protecting civilians. and that was for his base. but what qaddafi heard was okay, got a set back but no regime change. can i sleep well tonight. and wait the gringos out. whoever wrote that speech was so idiotic in they not thinking about the effect on qaddafi. we undercut the threat of a no-fly zone. so, i want obama to do well. he is our president. but this guy projects weakness to the max. >> juan: colonel peters what the president did say muir -- mow muir march qaddafi. military consequences does. that mean the united states will go on the ground in that case or does it mean that all bets are off and we will leave it to the french and the british and the u.n. and nato? we don't want troops on the ground they are unnecessary. no-fly zone at this point because it's been delayed so long has to be robust. one libyan tank moves out of position, you whack them. i don't think you are going to see that i think you are going to see a lot of dissension and the libyans are already playing the game by announcing that cease-fire today even though they're bombing misurata. put my money down with jimmy the greek. he is going to keep pounding the freedom fighters until the brits and french have planes in the air ready to hit and then he will stop shooting. but is he going to try to grab as much -- >> that's what the brits say they are doing right now, colonel peters. they are putting the planes up. i was curious about the american intervention. that's why i asked you if he breaks the president's line in the stand, if he breaks through, is the u.s. going to do something or not? >> no. no. you have to push it a lot farther. obama doesn't want americans pulling triggers in this. he is going to leave to the brits, the arabs while we provide infrasupport. >> juan: is that bad? >> it's bad because we have the best capability to take out air defenses. we are so far ahead of the brits >> juan: this would be a third muslim country. you understand it's too our advantage to have muslim countries involved to have the europeans involved. >> i don't want us dominating but, the arabs have asked us to come. the arab league has asked us to come. the libyans are asking us for help. and, you know, we got to play a role. now, as far as not the capability, this is nonsense, yes, we are bogged down in a worldless, hopeless campaign promise war in afghanistan. the air force and navy aren't bogged down. they have got the planes. they're the ones that need to do this. right now qaddafi is grabbing as much ground as he can. even when the no-fly zone goes fully into effect, he will stop his tanks. he will keep his aircraft on the ground and he will send in hit squads and commando teams that you can't do much about from the air. qaddafi still has not gotten the message. and i have to tell you, hillary clinton sounds pretty good. she has been talking regime change. she has been saying he needs to go. president obama seems to think well, if everybody is just nice, it will all work out. vaughnon that's not fair because president obama has said that qaddafi has to go. now, let me ask you to go -- >> -- not today, not today juan, he did not. >> juan: i think he has been clear. you say you wanted him to repeat it today. let me ask to you look at an opinion poll american people here. here a fox news opinion dynamics poll. 25% of americans favor having the u.s. get involved militarily in libya. but 65%, colonel peters say no action, no thank you. we don't want the u.s. military involved in libya. now, you are a military guy. i can understand why you would family size military response. but what, doesn't that draw you up short? doesn't that make you say well, we shouldn't have another war, especially one that doesn't have any support at home. >> well, there are several factors. first of all, one of the reasons support is weak is because obama hasn't provided leadership on this. the president's job is to explain why we have to do some tough things. second, he does have us bogged down in this hopeless worthless situation in afghanistan. and, three, look, has explained to the american people how high the stakes are in libya. it's not just about libya. if the world community doesn't stop this dictator with this tin pot army from slaughtering his own people, the lesson dictators around the world will take from it and some like -- already has taken it's okay to slaughter your own people. the arab revolt, the fight for freedom is at stake in libya tonight. >> juan: we will see how it plays out. of course, you don't want the u.s. being super cop in every situation but i get your point. i get your point, ralph. colonel peters, thanks again for coming in. up next, is the japanese government lying about the nuclear radiation threat? we'll hear from two experts who see sharply different views. and then, critics say president obama is weak in the leadership department when it comes to libya, japan, and budget cuts. but is that fair? we'll have a fair and balanced debate. introducing the thunderbolt by htc. immense power. scorching speed. the first phone strong enough to run on the fastest, most advanced 4g network in america. >> shepard: in the impact segment tonight, here are the latest developments from japan. the japanese nuclear safety agency upgraded the nuclear radiation leak from disaster from a level 4 to a level 5. this means some people may die from exposure to radiation. so far over 200,000 people have been evacuated from a 12-mile radius around the plant and there are reports that up to 190 workers may be suffering from some degree of radiation sickness. but here in the united states the fema director says that radiation levels are not dangerous, although they are monitoring the situation. and now some critics are accusing the japanese government of lying about how dangerous the situation really is. joining us to help us sort out fact from fiction are physicist richard muriel in san francisco and howard gould who exposes the expansion of nuclear energy. richard, we heard that some of the fall-out now is actually going to reach california. we're told the radiation threat is minimal but aren't you scared? >> not in the slightest. we can detect exceedingly low levels of radiation because we have exquisitely sensitive instruments. the levels that will reach here will be so minuscule that there is really no danger whatsoever in the united states. >> juan: on you mean to say it doesn't matter? i can't believe it doesn't matter. >> i think it doesn't matter. when the levels are so small that it takes these instruments to detect them, we're talking here about micrograms. this is less than you get from a tooth x-ray. it's -- people love to be afraid of electricity and some people love to exemployed the fear of radioactivity. this is really, i think in japan it's a cause for concern. but not really a cause for alarm. >> juan: it's not a cause for alarm if the situation continues to escalate? >> i'm talking about not a cause for alarm if it gets really bad. these reactors are designed to accommodate a meltdown. yes, radioactivity is released and there is danger if you are within 15 miles of the nuclear reactor, but this is why they have evacuations. we're talking here about an accident that where most of the radioactivity has already disappeared because it's been seven days since the reactor accident. we're talking about something that is tiny compared to chernobyl. chernobyl was so bad and, yet, chernobyl was a bad accident. it had, we estimate, 36,000 people killed by the radioactivity. if they didn't evacuate here, and if the worst possible thing happens, then the number would be 400 people, not -- i'm not talking about the workers, the people who are there risking their lives to prevent this from happening. i'm saying if everything goes wrong, then the estimate is that 400 people would eventually contract cancer, assuming there was no evacuation. best guess right now sunday the worst circumstances zero deaths from this. >> juan: okay. the fact is right now as we are talking zero deaths. but, howard, you are saying, you know what? the risk is too great. it might be minimal risk. the radiation might not be great as we are just hearing from howard, but you say still too much of a risk. >> i think absolutely the risk is there. i mean, we are obviously seeing this from environmental standpoint. 400 people may be nothing compared to chernobyl. the risk is still there. we don't know what's going to happen. the fact is that the future of nuclear energy should be heavily looked at from this perspective. it's very very expensive. three times for expensive than other energy sources it does have the potential to be very dangerous. takes enormous amount of time and energy to get one of these reactors up and operating. so, why even bother with this when there are other energy sources that we could be looking at that could be online in a much faster, much cheaper way? >> juan: wait a second, this is pretty clean energy. you know what? to be fair, we haven't had any kind of accident of this magnitude in a long, long time. >> you have got to remember though nuclear is great. it's great, it's great, it's great. and then when it's bad, it's really bad. the fact is that we don't hear about a lot of these accidents. there was a report that came out in the last couple of days that talks about in 2010 there were 14 near misses at reactor sites in the u.s. alone those could be major issues and relatively minor. they were considered near misses and two of them were security breaches. which is, you know, it's classified exactly what happened. but the fact is that you never hear about the near misses. you only hear about when something happens. >> juan: you think the japanese government has been lying? >> i don't know. it's very difficult to say. is tepco pulling a bp and saying hey, it's really not as bad as we said? >> juan: that's tokyo electric power. >> yeah. are they pulling the same thing we saw last year with the bp oil spill? it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. it's telling that the u.s. military came and said hey we would like to clear a 50-mile radius off of this. u.s. experts both international and u.s. nuclear experts came in and said that i mean, that's very telling. >> juan: richard, what do you say to that? this is a signal this is the end of nuclear power in the world. it's just too dangerous. it might be a small chance of a problem, but if there is a problem, boy, it's bad news? >> the incidents that howard is referring to are really minor things. you have incidents. if you want to compare it to something. compare it to the horrendous explosion that took place at the petroleum refinery in japan which was on television spewed huge amounts of carcinogens all over the neighboring city. yeah, nuclear power has some dangers. but compared to the tsunami, we're really not talking about big dangers here, when howard refers to 400 deaths. that's 400 deaths if they had not evacuated. in the worst case, if the nuclear reactor actually blows, then we will get 400 deaths with no evacuation. but that has already happened. we expect zero deaths even under the worst case. this reactor was designed to accommodate a meltdown and to -- >> juan: let me let howard respond to that. >> i think that the idea is even that we are in this situation, we are talking about radiation traveling to the united states. whether or not it does any damage, this still a major issue that we are dealing with here. >> juan: are you using this for a political agenda then because you are opposed to nuclear power in principle? >> no, it's not that i'm opposed to nuclear power in principle. i think that even from a business case this makes sense. nuclear power doesn't work. i mean, yes, it works. >> juan: of course it works. >> it's a base load fuel source but very expensive. >> juan: gentlemen, thank you very much. coming up, president obama is getting off to brazil. critics say now might not be the best time to head south with so much chaos erupting around the world. the fbi is after a criminal hacker ring that has been snagging private photos of hollywood celebrities. geraldo rivera is investigating. introducing the most fuel-efficient luxury car available. the radically new 42 mile per gallon ct hybrid from lexus. welcome to the darker side of green. her morng begins with arthritis pain. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon to begins with more pain and more pills. thevening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels. hi. wwhere we build eachit all fstof our customers in. a better banking experience. hey, let's talk small business. there is some very sophisticated stuff in here. we have everything from business checking, to loans for expansion. there's even a regions cashcor analysis. but one of the best things is the personalized advice you'll get from a regions business expert. hey, mary. hi, mike. thanks. she really understands business. is your small business ready for something better? switch to regions. >> juan: spring bake vacation, some conservatives say he shouldn't be react relaxing. crisis in libya, japan, not to mention the trouble with america's economy and budget problems right here at home. do they have a point? or is this just partisan sniping from republicans? good question. so joining us from los angeles, fox news analyst and radio talk show host leslie marshall and here in new york fox news analyst and new york daily news columnist andrea tantaros. let me start with you. we don't have a commander and chief we have a spectator in chief is that right. >> that's pretty much what it is. i think this guy just has a priority issue. it seems like he is operating on a different set of priorities. and this isn't the first time. when he was trying to pass obama care everyone was saying what are you doing? this isn't the number one issue. now we have got a government that needs to be funded through a budget that he failed to pass last year. republicans and democrats are saying where is this president? we have got issues in libya. also he wants to cut defense funding but now he wants to go into libya. heading to rio. i'm all for the president getting rest and relaxation. it's a demanding job. i just think he has a real perception issue and he doesn't know when to stay here and not fill out the brackets, not go to rio, not golf. come on, he should be smarter than that. >> juan: come on, anyway, leslie, let me let you respond to this. leslie, in fact, one the things that really caught my eye today you had about more than 60 senators, bipartisan group saying to president obama in a letter we need your leadership. you should take a position on these budget negotiations rather than mr. serene, mr. calm, mr. cool, mr. aloof, lay back, i'm not in it, you guys settle it. what do you say, leslie. >> first of all, juan, is he not their daddy. he is the commander and chief. he put forth a budget that the republicans don't like. the democrats don't even like all of it. he did say this is a beginning and they are going to have to work out the rest. that's their job to do. regarding going to brazil, this was planned a long time ago. it's not just a vacation. he is there regarding oil and technology, which we will benefit greatly and even have job creation. let's not forget a lot of the contracts from the gulf went to brazil and hopefully in the future a trade deal because right now there is concern about china's currency and also the brazilian manufacturers are complaining about the quality or lack thereof of chinese goods. they are made cheaply and we can benefit in the long-term from that exporting our goods to brazil and creating more jobs. >> juan: let me stay with that point. that's an interesting point. andrea, you are saying he shouldn't take the trip or should he? >> look, i'm not begrudging him for the vacation. >> juan: she didn't say vacation. she said he went down there -- >> -- went down there to talk about investments. with what money? we will ask japan to give us more money. wait, we can't ask the japanese. >> juan: wait a second. increasing exports with growing economy in brazil is what leslie was saying. >> he could work. couldn't he postpone the trip and deal with the issues here. >> juan: there are always going to be issues. >> i think domestic issues he has taken his eye all the above above -- off of the ball again. this guy does not have u.s. interest at heart. no discernible policy in the middle east. cherry picking which revolution to support. >> juan: wait, you are changing the topic. >> no. it's still on leadership. >> juan: leslie, come back to the leadership issue. you saw what happened today in libya is he, again, advocating leadership? here is the orders, gentlemen, let's move forward. >> i'm a liberal democrat who wanted hillary to be my president. he was my second choice and i voted for him. i have to say when i heard him speak today regarding resolution 1973, he sounded the most presidential i have heard him speak in a long time and i was like that's what i want president obama. and i thought he hit it out of the park. you know what? when we look at japan sending the resources, the military, the money hoping as much as we can check. when it comes to libya, we are with the security resolution that was passed and the u.n. is a part of the u.n. not leading it for a change but working with allies such as lebanon, great britain, france, and that's what we're doing there in libya. he that's what he said he was going to do, check. >> juan: you have made a strong case. andrea, you just heard her say she heard a leader speak today and she are saying there are real concrete outcoming in libya and japan. >> look, i don't have any criticism with him on japan. i think he is ham strupg. i think he did what he needed to do. i'm not going to beat him up on that. in libya though, he should have never come out. the minute he said qaddafi must go, committed the of the united states did nothing to remove him and waited and waited and waited he shouldn't have made that comment. here is what i would liked to have heard from him. he come out and says i don't want a third war. i don't want one more u.s. american boy or girl dying for this country. we have had enough. or, i'm going to go to nato, i'm going to use my community organizing skills, i'm going to get everyone together, and then we are going to put together a resolution. i didn't hear that. >> juan: leslie, isn't that what he what we heard today. >> no, we heard the arab league pressure him along with france and britain. >> juan: give leslie a shot here. >> wait a minute, ronald reagan said that qaddafi was a maniac in the desert. i thought he was a god for the republicans. the president today was clear. this is what we're going to do. this is why we are going to do it. you know what? he was criticized because he didn't stand up sooner and wasn't clear about hosni mubarak stepping down. now that he does do it you are criticizing him. you are picking on him no matter what he says. >> leslie, there is no clear picture on where he stands in the middle east. his finger goes up and whatever the way the wind is blowing that's where he goes. even hillary clinton came out and criticized him. look, ronald reagan never came out and said qaddafi must go and talked about removal without actually backing it up. >> juan: let leslie respond. quickly, leslie. >> bottom line, i disagree. i think he is very clear. he is on the side of democracy and he is against the side of genocide. that's why we are taking the actions we did. >> i think more and more -- >> juan: we have to governmental i don't think job for him. >> juan: that was an example of a fair and balanced debate here on fox. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. a new poll says americans don't think the republicans are any more serious than the democrats when it comes to reducing the deficit. we'll talk to potential g.o.p. g.o.p. contender her herman cain about that anthony weiner is plenty worked up about the g.o.p. threat to defund npr. we'll show you his hysterical outburst on the house floor when we come right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] you plant. you mow. you grow. you dream. meet the new definition of durability: the john deere select series -- a four-year limited warranty, dozens of attachments, and endless possibilities. what will you create? 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[ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. >>ed in>>ed in the unresolved pm segment tonight, a brand new fox news poll has some bad news with the republican party when it comes to getting federal government's finances in order. only 42% think the g.o.p. is truly serious about reducing the budget deficit. and get this 51% don't. the numbers are just a little worse for democrats. 38% think they are serious about 55% say the democrats are not serious. so should americans trust the g.o.p. to do the job? joining us now from denver potential republican presidential candidate herman cain. i am struck by the fact that so many americans, given the rhetoric coming from the republican party, given the tea party revolution still say they don't trust republicans to reduce the deficit. what do you have to say? >> well, what i have to say is people have to remember that the republicans only control one branch of the government. that's the house of representatives. they don't control the senate. they don't control the white house. and the leadership for being serious must come from the white house. and i think that the letter that you referred to earlier indicates that because democrats and republicans are saying we are not -- 535 members of congress, juan, are not going to do what i call fiscal surgery. that's what is going to be required. now, here's what the republicans did not do. they have not done a good job of explaining to the american people what they can and cannot do relative to the budget. and so the perception that's reflected in that poll is that they ought to be able to move mountains when they don't control all of the mountain tops. >> juan: herman cain, wait a minute. we get republicans on the factor and immediately they want to point a finger at president obama. why don't you talk about republican responsibility here. why aren't republicans talking about the need for entitlement cuts, social security. medicare, medicaid. defense spending and making that case to other republicans? >> well, i don't know why they are not talking about it. but herman cain is talking about it i gave 20 speeches last week in iowa, new hampshire, georgia, texas. and i talk about entitlement spending because we have got to go from entitlement society to an empowerment society and i have got ideas about how we do that. we are not going to cut spending until we do fiscal surgery. look, juan, you know i had cancer surgery. they took out part of my colon and part of my liver. that is serious surgery. you are not going to get that kind of surgery in washington, d.c. until you have a president who is willing to do what i call horizontal cuts and vertical cuts. when you do vertical cuts, like i did at godfather's pizza, you go into each department and agency and identify whole programs. the reason that they are not making any progress -- >> juan: hold on, herman cain, we have not heard any of these big cuts coming from republicans yet. their focus on continuing rest lewises, today president obama before he took off signed another continuing resolution to keep the government working for another three weeks. he has not been able to respond to any big cuts in terms of entitlement spending being proposed by republicans because they haven't proposed any. >> juan, the president hasn't proposed any either. >> juan: that's true. okay. your point is well taken. so which side goes first. is this just a game of both sides going i'm not going first because i don't want to you attack me and tell your followers i'm a bad guy because i propose the cuts first? >> the president should go first because the president should show the leadership on being serious about the cuts. so, he really should be the one to go first. if i were president, i would go first because that's what is expected of a leader. the republicans have put some things on the table, juan, and i think that it's, quite frankly, unfair to say that they are not serious about budget cuts. remember, the president initially put $6 billion on the table. the pubs put $61 billion on the table. scwawnon right,. >> juan: herman, we are talking about a little sliver of the federal defendant not the big entitlement spending that's really going to amount to substantial reductions in spending. you know, i hear you. i think this president is going to have to do something. i think he should demonstrate leadership. you are running for president and you know that no politician that wants to get reelected going to give his opposition ammunition. that's what the president thinks he would be giving republicans ammunition. >> well, juan, what i was going to say was the 61 billion wasn't enough but the president put 6 billion on the table and called that meeting the republicans halfway. look, the approach that's being used by both the republicans and democrats right now trimming around the engs is not going to do some serious fiscal surgery like we need. this is why i am proposing and i would use what i call horizontal cuts, a given amount across the board of all the federal agencies and vertical cuts. this is when you do the deep surgery. they are not doing the deep surgery right now. neither party is, juan. >> juan: you know what in the american people agree with you both the republicans and democrats. although i must say, you know what, they have more faith in obama than they do in either of the parties which is a surprise to me. mr. cain, thanks so much for coming in. >> you are welcome, juan. >> juan: directly ahead, geraldo rivera on a criminal hacking ring that is stealing personal photos of high profile celebrities. and congressman anthony weiner goes bizzerk on the house floor talking about the prospects of defunding npr. we'll play that for you upcoming. the angels start second guessing where they tread. ♪ cl 1-800-steemer [ robin ] quality and reliability are more than words here. it's personal. i have diabetes. so i'm proud to manufacture the accu-chek aviva meters and test strips here in the usa. and now we put a prescription discount card in every box so you'll pay no more than $15 on tt strips, which is a true american value foreople with dbetes likee. [ male announcer ] accu-chek aviva. born in the usa. >> juan: and in the fridays with geraldo segment tonight, according to the web site t tmz, the fbi is investigating a criminal hacking ring that has been stealing some very personal photos of scarlett johansson, miley cyrus, vanessa hung johns and jessica alba. should i say that? are you looking? >> peeping. >> juan: geraldo is here. he joins us. before we get to that i would like to get your thoughts on what's been going in libya. two sides of the debate. you watched this afternoon when the president was speaking, what did you think. >> i have been extremely, extremely hesitant to endorse the united states getting involved in leading yet another attack on yet another arab muslim country. i thought it was an extremely bad idea. at least britain and france now have provided the united states with enough cover, hopefully they will provide some hardware, put some of their asss on the line so it's not us doing all the heavy lifty again in what will be an extremely difficult situation. people are absolutely and i heard colonel peters at the top of the show low balling what this entails, secretary gates is absolutely right. secretary of defense gates is exactly right. once you hit it you can't get it off your hands. >> juan: they have frozen assets. embargo against buying libyan oil. i think it could destabilize that government. so you are saying you actually were encouraged by what you heard from the president today. >> i was encouraged by the security council taking the lead but i want to ask the world if you are going to impose a no-fly zone on libya why not on yemen? 50 people died there today? why not on bahrain or syria where just three or four people got killed today. i think this is an open-ended proposition. it's not going to end well. it's going to be messy. remember how long we all lived through from gulf war 1 until the invasion in 2003. 13 years of no-fly zone, an enormous expense. you wear out your hardware and pilots. >> juan: you don't want qaddafi hanging around and slaughtering his own people. you don't want genocide like that. >> i want to know how you decide which side you are going to bomb when you have got some dollar an hour guy in a uniform of qaddafi and a dollar an hour rebel. who are you going to kill? one life -- >> juan: that's tough. >> once you start that process where does it end? who knows. where is the italians. they were the colonial rule of libya. 200 miles away. we're 4,000 miles away. why is it always us? >> juan: where are the russians and brazilians? they all abstained. are they in the same world we are in. >> i'm shocked they didn't veto. i wonder now if qaddafi really hasn't worn out his welcome. it's going to be a lot messier than people think. >> juan: now. >> now the fun stuff? >> juan: your peeping. i>> i have been unable to confim tmz is reporting. they have a good track record in. this these are similar to probes the fbi has conducted on hacking in the past. i want to start with a general statement, juan, that any star who puts a nude photo of themselves on their iphone or on their computer or home page or whatever it is are absolutely insane because these kids now, and they are not all kids, have codes that can break your password. they can slave your web cam at home and take pictures of you wherever your computer happens to be pointing. for them to do this is the height of irresponsibility. >> juan: i'm amazed how many young women are taking nude pictures of themselves. i don't care where they are keeping them. do you have nude photos of yourself, heard? >> i was going to show you -- >> juan: hey, restrain yourself. [ laughter ] >> i have this really long camera. >> juan: yeah, right. let mes is say it seems a lot of these women have movies coming out and projects. do you think this is a publicity stunt? >> either the malicious hacker was a perverted sense of humor and seeks to cash in on the publicity that's coming with the project or there is some more insidious motive, the victim is encouraging the publication. i don't make any, you know, i don't pick a lane here. but obviously when you hear that there are illicit photos of such and such starlet on the web that immediately drives traffic to that web site, a million views. 10 million views. 100 million views. >> juan: are we all suckers or what? come on. >> we may all be suckers. really, if you put it on your electronic devices, connected to the internet. as the internet grows, there will be zero privacy. everyone should know that. there won't be privacy of your -- not only your nude pictures but your credit rating, your bank account level. there will be no privacy. there will be no privacy, juan, period. >> juan: one last topic for you geraldo on geraldo on friday. what's going on in wisconsin? we have got a judge extending a temporary restraining order against governor scott walker's order, right? essentially saying you can't publish it. if you can't publish it, therefore the law can't take effect. the problem she says and she says that the unions and so forth are likely to win the democrats was not sufficient public discussion of the law. >> of that issue, of the 24 hour notice the democrats and the labor unions will probably win if that session is considered an ordinary session. if, however, it's considered a special session, then the republicans win. in any case, the key word here is temporary. all this does is a brief respite because all the republicans have to do now that the democrats are back in madison, wisconsin, now that the quorum exists in the state senate is re-vote on the bill and scott walker will sign it again. so, a month down the road you will have the same situation. >> juan: scott walker comes out on top in this fight. >> they can't loses as long as they control the state house. >> juan: you are the man. thanks for coming in. >> my pleasure. >> juan: anthony weiner loses it on the house floor talking about the funding npr. you are going to see it right here next. 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joining us now from los angeles dr. caroline helmand a professor at occidental college. when you see anthony weiner go off like this and suggest that somehow this is an attack on click and clack, do you think he has lost his mind. >> is he making a very important point that we are acting like this is a priority when the world is falling down around us. and i would go a step further and say that npr is a really important source of mainstream news. i know they are being rebranded as being liberal and radical. the fact of the matter is they include stories. viewpoints across the spectrum. conservatives and tea parties are coming out to defend them. the focus on this issue is misplaced and representative wiener is bringing that topic up. >> juan: you must have missed that videotape where had you npr's number one fundraiser said we would be better off without federal funding. >> i would have to disagree with him on that point. symbolically it's important for us as a public to have national funding for such a thing as npr. it is the most trusted news source according to recent harris poll. listenership has gone up dramatically in recent years. truth tellers. the question we should be asking is why are the biggest polluters on the globe or top ten the biggest polluters the brothers so concerned about taking down npr. i would argue is because it is they are telling truths no one else is telling. >> juan: similarly concerned that george soros is putting so much money into npr from a liberal perspective. >> yes, i would. juan, i think we would very much be in agreement about that i would prefer that funding sources for public radio and public television be less partisan. >> juan: why don't you say that they should be open to advertising and go into the marketplace like fox news and every other news organization from the "new york times," the "the washington post," to the "l.a. times"? >> great question, juan. i think that actually they provide something that mainstream commercial media cannot provide. they provide news that doesn't come from a corporate slant. and if you want to look at the biggest bias in compromise information -- >> juan: if that's valuable to you caroline, why wouldn't you pay for it? >> die pay for it through my taxes that's how i would like to pay for it in addition to my individual contributions. >> juan: hold on. you are saying it's more important in terms of your tax spending than social security. more important. >> not more. >> juan: scholarships for college children. >> not more. >> juan: more important than the police or the fire? you want to have that as your priority even at a time of fiscal constraints? >> well, juan, our fiscal constraints are the result of tax cuts for the wealthy who wealth has been growing astronomically while will middle 80's. >> juan: increase taxes to pay for npr's budget? that's what you are saying. >> just restore taxes to an equitable place and be fine. get out of wars we can't afford and shouldn't have been n the first place. this either/or doesn't make sense to me when i look at the books and see we are a wealthy country pay for everything we prioritize. unfortunately we happen to be corporate welfare and welfare for the wealthy. >> juan: do you think it's okay for one side or the other for soros or the cotch brothers anybody to i be paying into the pot. here is what you have to do in order to get the money. we saw that in the videotape where npr's fundraisers are even willing to do business with the muslim brotherhood. i think that's bad news. i don't think journalist should be having to work under those conditions, caroline. >> well, juan, they did refuse the $5 million. they did vet the organization. and i actually think the video has been a bit blown out of proportion. not only was it doctored. we do know from chris parker's research at the university of washington that people who identify with the tea party do have a greater amount of racial resentment. i happen to agree with schiller that your comments were bigoted. i think that if i were to say that i clutch my purse every time i walk by a black man, that might resonate with a lot of americans. it might be their truth but it's a bigoted statement. i certainly wouldn't have fired you but i do think there was some truth in that video that we don't get to talk about because we are afraid to have actual discourse in this country. >> juan: i can't believe that you just said that you think that simply saying what you think is evidence of bigotry that all of a sudden it's as if you were walking by a black man that would mean if you were bigoted if you were somewhat nervous. with the amount of black on black crime in mercury get nervous and i'm a black man. wait a second. >> there we go again, juan. i would find that to be racial fro filing and bigoted comment. >> juan: i'm the father of black young men. i'm saying if you saw a couple guys walking around looking like thugs down the street late at night, you say oh, i'm not going to think it through. caroline, i think you are way off base. thanks for coming. in we appreciate it greatly. pinheads and patriots on deck. tonight, feature ago viral video of a baby coming right up. ♪ [ male announcer ] every day thousands of people are switching from tylenol to advil. here's one story. my name is betty and i am an animal lover who does rcue. being a foster parent for dogs is very grueling. washing them -- causes a lot of strain on my lower back. i used to take tylenol, and now i take advil and it works quickly and it takes away my pains. 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