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BBCNEWS BBC July 2, 2024



and that, time will tell. inger andersen, thank you very much for talking to us this evening. it's a pleasure. thank you for having me. so let's take a look at some of the front pages. the i, angry mps plotting to derail pm rwanda law pond at the times is similar. the front page of the guardian... the front page of the guardian... the son, i won't be emotionally blackmailed by harry, apparently keenjails blackmailed by harry, apparently keen jails will not be emotionally blackmailed by his son, they reveal. the king is defiant on the book row. that's all from us tonight. i'm back on monday. have a good weekend. goodnight. humanitarian needs were self—contradictory. meanwhile, more video has emerged showing dozens of palestinian men detained by israel. the footage, verified by the bbc, shows them stripped to their underwear, kneeling on the ground and being guarded by israeli soldiers. then driven away for interrogation. it's understood that some of the men have since been released. here's our international editor, jeremy bowen. gaza is at breaking point, says the un. almost 2 million people have been driven from their homes by israeli forces. in deir al—balah, the mosque was bombed with such force that the yafa hospital next door was put out of action. the us warned israel again that it was killing too many civilians. targeted or indiscriminate attacks on civilians are a war crime. israel said it launched a50 strikes in the last 2a hours. it sent out these pictures of its men assaulting hamas inside a school near gaza city. another video released by hamas shows a dead hostage and what it said was the bloody aftermath of a failed israeli raid to free him. gunfire. at the un in new york, the secretary—general requested an immediate ceasefire, telling the security council that hamas violations of the laws of war did not excuse israel's. there is a high risk of the total collapse of the humanitarian support system in gaza which would have devastating consequences. we anticipate that it would result in a complete breakdown of public order and increased pressure for mass displacement into egypt. i fear the consequences could be devastating for the security of the entire region. but the us rejected his warnings and vetoed the ceasefire resolution. it is giving israel more time to destroy hamas. our goals should not simply be to stop the war for today, it should be to end the war for ever, break the cycle of unceasing violence, and build something stronger in gaza and across the middle east, so that history does not keep repeating itself. back in gaza, israeli troops posted more video on social media of their round—up of hundreds of palestinian men, allegedly hamas suspects. the men were ordered to leave their families at a un shelter, stripped to their underwear and had their hands tied before being driven away for interrogation. israel still hasn't beaten hamas in northern gaza. fighting continues in an urban wasteland. the bbc traced the video to israeli soldiers, who deleted it after it went viral. the way hundreds of thousands of palestinians in gaza are being forced to live was filmed by a freelance journalist working for the bbc. he is sheltering in a tent made of plastic sheets in the grounds of a hospital in deir al—balah, in the middle area of gaza. gaza's people are at serious risk of starvation and famine, according to the secretary—general. he said the un could no longer help them under current conditions. this man said he is trying to get his kids to forget the good food they used to like. translation: idon't| know what to tell you. the only thing we have to eat is tea with no sugar. the only three words we hearfrom our children are "hungry, cold, thirsty". and we would rather die than see them get sick. the israelis destroyed the historic omari mosque in gaza city. they are ignoring us warnings that so much destruction and death could push palestinians into the arms of hamas, and the us cannot block a ceasefire indefinitely. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem. for more on the us�*s role in funding israel's military campaign, i spoke to sabrina singh, pentagon's deputy press secretary. you've pentagon's deputy press secretary. said that the d department you've said that the defence department is continuing to engage the israelis on ensuring that civilians in gaza are protected, the us does continue to flow security systems to israel without any conditions at this point. with the rising concern in the us and allies about the mass loss of civilian lives, should that change? we select an of our lives, should that change? we select any of our partners _ lives, should that change? we select any of our partners or— lives, should that change? we select any of our partners or allies - lives, should that change? we select any of our partners or allies who - lives, should that change? we select any of our partners or allies who we | any of our partners or allies who we support with security assistance to uphold the humanitarian laws that those weapons need to be used under. israel is fighting a war, and we have to remember they are fighting a war against the terrorist organisation that committed horrific atrocities on october seven. in all of our conversations, nearly daily compositions, continue to emphasise the point on the importance of protecting innocent civilians, especially in urban, dense areas like gaza. we will continue to do that privately and publicly, but we cannot forget how we got here. we cannot forget how we got here. we cannot forget how we got here. we cannot forget that hamas is a terrorist network and organisation that has an extensive tunnel system it is using in gaza, and using innocent civilians as hostages to conduct and conceal its operations. we talk about the long haul for ukraine, how long will the security assistance for israel will continue, especially because it is really has not defined how long the operation to defeat hamas will take?- to defeat hamas will take? you've heard the presidency _ to defeat hamas will take? you've heard the presidency of— to defeat hamas will take? you've heard the presidency of our- heard the presidency of our commitment to israel will be there for as long as they are in this fight with hamas, we stand with them as does the international community. so, security assistance continues to flow to israel, and since you mentioned, also to ukraine, but we can't do it without a supplement to package getting passed by congress. we can't continue to support, whether it's israel or ukraine, or efforts in the indo—pacific to modernise our fleets there, we need the support of congress, which is why we urge them to pass this supplemental request, but we are also operated without a full term, full—year, operational bill, we are operating on a short—term cr, other countries don't operate under short—term crs, but we urge congress to pass the supplemental but give us full—time funding for the year. russia fired cruise missiles at ukraine on friday for the first time in over two months. the air raid in kyiv lasted almost two hours and all the missiles heading towards the ukrainian capital were intercepted and destroyed by western supplied air defences. the central parts of the country also saw strikes. one person was killed and four others were injured in the city of pavlohrad. six long range surface to air missiles were fired at the eastern kharkiv region, with residential buildings destroyed, one dead and several others injured. the fresh attacks come as vladimir putin announced that he will stand for re—election for the fifth time as russian president when his term ends next year. our correspondentjess parker is in kyiv with the latest. president putin's announcement that he was then for a further term in office is not welcome news here in ukraine, but it does make a point that he can seemingly hold onto power while many believe he is waiting for a western support for ukraine to ab away and crack. the next week or so could be a crucial test of that. there are two packages of support that appeared to be in jeopardy because of political wrangling. one is economic assistance from that european union, and the other is defence aid from the united states. many billions of pounds worth that has been caught up and tangled in the domestic political issues. when ukraine's winter sets in and is faltering counter offensive, the idea that us defence aid could start to dry up is almost unthinkable, so crucial has it been on the battlefield. so, ukrainians will be hoping and praying that what president putin may believe it is proven to be wrong. here in the us, congress remains deadlocked on a crucialfunding bill with republicans refusing to budge unless and untiljoe biden agrees to their immigration demains. to understand how ukrainians are feeling about the debate over aid, i spoke to melinda haring, an internationally recognised expert on ukraine and nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic council's eurasia centre. you are in ukraine right now, how are people looking at the us debate over further aid are people looking at the us debate overfurther aid for are people looking at the us debate over further aid for ukraine? people are discouraged, _ over further aid for ukraine? people are discouraged, so _ over further aid for ukraine? people are discouraged, so the _ over further aid for ukraine? people are discouraged, so the vote - over further aid for ukraine? people are discouraged, so the vote this . are discouraged, so the vote this week in congress was not unexpected, but ukrainians are in a dark, cold, winter. i'm here in kyiv, this morning started with an air siren and many people have left the country. of a population of a0 million, 25 million remain behind, many women and children have left, and they are really looking for america, there are number one friend, to have their backs to stop so there is massive this appointment and i would say pessimism here as well. ~ . . ~ ., and i would say pessimism here as well. ~ . . ~' . . well. what are the ukraine and sa in: well. what are the ukraine and saying they _ well. what are the ukraine and saying they need _ well. what are the ukraine and saying they need on _ well. what are the ukraine and saying they need on the - well. what are the ukraine and - saying they need on the battlefield right now to break what appears to be a stalemate? that right now to break what appears to be a stalemate?— be a stalemate? that word, stalemates, _ be a stalemate? that word, stalemates, is _ be a stalemate? that word, stalemates, is in _ be a stalemate? that word, stalemates, is in hot - be a stalemate? that word, l stalemates, is in hot dispute, be a stalemate? that word, - stalemates, is in hot dispute, the word was used and president zelensky push back on it, but you are right, the map isn't changing. there are hot bottles right now in the east, but the ukrainians need more air defence systems to get through the winter, but they really need more shells. they are short on shelves and i think that is the number one item they need. flan and i think that is the number one item they need.— and i think that is the number one item they need. can europe step up and replace — item they need. can europe step up and replace the _ item they need. can europe step up and replace the type _ item they need. can europe step up and replace the type of assistance l and replace the type of assistance the us has provided until now? yes and no. the us has provided until now? yes and he the — the us has provided until now? jazz and no. the assistance of the us has provided until now? 123 and no. the assistance of the us is provided is more than military. the us is the leader on military assistance, europe will have a hard time replacing that, but on economic assistance, is called budget support, and it's the thing that keeps ukraine from not becoming afghanistan, it's not very sexy, it's called budget port support, it pays for pensions and schools and hospitals, it's what keeps the banking system afloat. the eu is the leader on that and they can take an even greater leadership role. it's not very popular in the united states, the attitude, especially among certain republicans, why should be paying for pension for ukrainian godmothers rather than schools here in the us? that is attitude. i expected to be more controversial. the third leg is humanitarian assistance, which we know is not as controversial but historically as conflicts go on the amount of assistance continues to decline. ~ . ., , ., , decline. the ukrainians have been marked remarkably _ decline. the ukrainians have been marked remarkably resilient - decline. the ukrainians have been marked remarkably resilient this | decline. the ukrainians have been i marked remarkably resilient this far in the war and seems are meant remarkably resilient, that being said, how confident do you think they are in their countries ability to win this war?— they are in their countries ability to win this war? ukrainians believe the 're to win this war? ukrainians believe they're willing _ to win this war? ukrainians believe they're willing to _ to win this war? ukrainians believe they're willing to war. _ to win this war? ukrainians believe they're willing to war. 90% - to win this war? ukrainians believe they're willing to war. 90% of - to win this war? ukrainians believe| they're willing to war. 9096 of them they're willing to war. 90% of them think they will win the war. they are confident about it. ukrainians give many examples to me of resilience. ukrainians have multiple jobs. everyone i know here is volunteering. people are building drones and rockets, and they have read tools in order to make sure that ukraine can win. so, i don't think their spirits are diminished. this winter, in particular, its not as hard yet as the previous one yet. we saw a rocket strike after orchestrate last year, the number of rockets and frequency are not as high as it was last year. so there is relief from that perspective, and that the surprise element as well. however, the ukrainians worry when you talk to them that the russians are going to plan swarms of drones in the really hard once injanuary and february. at the white house, all rural white house, has warned that if the supplemental is not passed, it would not be able to give ukraine the weapons system that they really need. so it's essential to get this supplemental passed as soon as possible, so ukraine can end the war as soon as possible, and we can stop the number of deaths. the longer the supplemental goes, and it looks like it is going, this debate like this fight over ukraine aid, will go into january, the more suffering and death we will see. good to get your perspective, thank you so much. my good to get your perspective, thank you so much-— good to get your perspective, thank ousomuch. g , ., around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at another story that's making headlines in the uk... britain's prime minister has again been forced to defend his rwanda immigration plan. rishi sunak has introduced emergency legislation to try to overcome legal issues — which have so far delayed the scheme. but, mps from across his party have concerns about the approach. our deputy politcal editor vicki young explains. the problem he has got, that there's at least two factions in his party who are opposed to this for diametrically opposed reasons. one side are saying, "we've got to disregard more "human rights legislation," the other saying, "well, actually, "you've gone too far already." so, this weekend, the home secretary and other ministers will be giving really a very simple message to their mps — "focus on this, don't worry about all the other things that you are also grumpy about. "this is the best way forward." the plan would send migrants to the african nation — in the hopes of deterring others from crossing the channel in small boats. but supreme courtjudges have already blocked a previous version of the scheme — declaring that rwanda was not a safe country and that the asylum system was flawed. mps will debate the latest plan on tuesday. you're live with bbc news. a major donor to the university of pennsylvania has withdrawn a one—hundred—million—dollar grant in protest against remarks to congress by its president liz magill about anti—semitism. this comes on the back of a list of donors, politicians, business leaders, and students — all calling for ms magill�*s resignation. the uproar follows a heated hearing on capitol hill — where representative elise stefanik grilled ms magill on whether calls for the genocide ofjewish people violated the university's code of conduct. ms magill said it was 'context dependent. she later clarified her answer and apologised in a video on wednesday, but it failed to quell further criticism. meanwhile rabbi david walpe has resigned from harvard university's anti—semitism committee saying there was an evil ideology gripping several students and faculty members there. this calling for the genocide of dues violated pens code of contact when it comes to harassment, yes or no? i when it comes to harassment, yes or no? . , when it comes to harassment, yes or no? ., , , ., when it comes to harassment, yes or no? , ., ., no? i was focused on our universities _ no? i was focused on ourl universities long-standing no? i was focused on our - universities long-standing policies universities long—standing policies are aligned with the us constitution, which say that speech alone _ constitution, which say that speech alone is_ constitution, which say that speech alone is not— constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable. live now to our correspondent nomia iqbal, she's at the university of pennsylvania getting the latest for us. good to see you, what are people saying about the presidents testimony and her apology? i5 saying about the presidents testimony and her apology? is a real of frustration _ testimony and her apology? is a real of frustration and _ testimony and her apology? is a real of frustration and anger _ testimony and her apology? is a real of frustration and anger at _ testimony and her apology? is a real of frustration and anger at the - of frustration and anger at the comments made by the president. to give you an example, i spoke to a young student here called noah, who is jewish, young student here called noah, who isjewish, he wants the president to resign and rejected the apology, saying that it was a shame that the president hadn't expressed what she felt under oath when ask a question. for him, it was a sense of her having an opportunity to make a moral clarity about, in terms of that question. also, a moment ago i spoke to student because mia, she's jewish, she said she is torn between herjewish identity and also the fact she's part of an organisation that absolutely believes in free speech. soko, in terms of what the president said, she understands legally it was fine and it was part of free speech, but was disappointed ljy of free speech, but was disappointed by it as well. so, there are these mixed opinions on campus, but for some it might feel it's a little too late. it some it might feel it's a little too late. , , ., late. it seems to highlight the tensions we _ late. it seems to highlight the tensions we have _ late. it seems to highlight the tensions we have seen - late. it seems to highlight the tensions we have seen on - late. it seems to highlight the . tensions we have seen on college campuses across the us over the israel — hamas war, how is that plane over at the university of pennsylvania? fist plane over at the university of pennsylvania?— plane over at the university of pennsylvania? at the start of the war, hundreds _ pennsylvania? at the start of the war, hundreds of _ pennsylvania? at t

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