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get celebrate your milestone since with custom gear, get started today, i'd customer ink.com i'm lavandera and rio do so new mexico, this is cnn closed captioning is brought to you by sokoloff law mesothelial mv victims call now $30 billion in trust money has been set aside. >> you may be entitled to a portion of that money all when 8085920400. that's when 8085920400 will there ever be an actual classified documents? >> humans trial for former president trump today, the judge in florida is holding yet another hearing letting the president's lawyers make the case for why special counsel jack smith shouldn't even be proud prosecuting him in the first place and leading to questions about how much longer that trial will be delayed. >> and a felony convictions seems to be paying off for donald trump, the former president president's campaign, raking in the dough since that verdict. we're going to break down the money race with just six days until the debate right here on cnn. and in paris, their fears it's the river sen. and won't be clean enough for competition. the mayor though says he has a plan to convince everyone it's safe by taking a dip in it. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central more hearings more evidence, more delays, former president trump's lawyers are in federal court, right now in florida, the trying to get the charges in his classified documents case dismissed, arguing that special counsel jack smith was unconstitutionally the appointed. >> this is yet another pretrial hearing called for by trump appointed judge aileen cannon, and critics argue that this move is unusual and that it needlessly postponed the trial, most likely until after the presidential election. cnn's katelyn polantz is joining us now on this. all right. tell us what's happening here. >> well, about six hours give or take of arguments before judge aileen cannon today. and it was an unusual argument in that it was a long time spent on a question that other judges have looked at in some didn't even hold hearings on. but judge cannon, lifetime appointee, she can do what she wants. she wants to have this hearings. you wanted to hear from outside? parties, law professors, both on the liberal and on the conservative side about this. and it boils down to this question. and this is what we're getting out of listening to those arguments today. it boils down where she keeps asking questions of how did this actually work with merrick garland, appointing special counsel, jack smith. >> and how much oversight is there within the department of this special counsel? >> trump's team has argued a bunch of different things here. and some of those conflict in different times that there's not enough oversight of smith that he's too much of an inferior officer, that it's not constitutional, that money isn't correct for him. there's gonna be more arguments on that on monday, but judge cannon has a lot of questions here. and if she does deviate from what other judges have across the country, that's possible. and she could theoretically nullify not just this indictment, but jack smith, of course i would very likely be appealed by the department of justice, but it's a hearing that raises really intriguing questions about the special counsel's office. donald trump wants to really dig into how this works within the justice department and judge cannon is asking questions of how much oversight how has there been actual oversight and what do you really mean about the oversight? merrick garland has over the special counsel, a lot of stuff in court today, but no rolling. yeah. i am curious about the answers to those questions, but there's some serious criticism, perhaps valid about the process and how xi's undertaking this. >> so we'll continue to follow it, caitlin. thank you so much, boris. >> let's try to get answers to those questions with national security attorney bradley moss bradley, the trump team here arguing the attorney general can appoint a special counsel who wasn't confirmed by the senate. the justice department obviously disagrees where do you come down on this yeah, this was the same argument that got raised during the molar probe in the trump administration. >> there were numerous challenges to special counsel molars appointment. >> it during that time. >> they all failed in quite candidly and this is kind of consistent with what katelyn but just outlining for you to this should have been could have easily been dealt with on the papers without need of a hearing. it's been dealt with for years, for decades, actually going all the way back to the nixon era, there was no need for this to be a dana half long hearing, but this is what judge cannon and our own discretion has chosen to do it, even though i expect she'll deny this motion. it's the delay that matters and that's what trump's team want it, and that's what they got the benefit? >> if there is a benefit to judge cannon having this hearing and having these three days of hearing, all of these arguments so if you look at it from just a jurist perspective, she wants to hear a full explanation of what is arguably in some views, rather abstract and philosophical set of arguments. >> they're arguing over the definition of particular words terms like inferior officer and what is official, what is employee? this gets into really abstract areas of statutory tax happens all the time when dealing with these kinds of cases. it's certainly not unusual, but a lot of judges don't tend to recur wire this kind of extensive hearing on it and they certainly don't generally bring in these friends of the court, these various amici to submit briefs and to argue as was allowed this afternoon down there in florida. that's a particular approach to judge cannon chose to pursue an allow again, she has that discretion. i don't think most judges it would have done that. >> it's unique, partly because rulings on special counsel's akin to jack smith's role have been pretty consistent going back to the 19 i don't know that you heard some of the arguments in those cases that we're hearing from trump's lawyers during the hearing, they argue that smith's position amounted to a quote, shadow government. they described him as one of the most powerful people in the country. judge cannon apparently responded that quote, that sounds very ominous. what do you really mean? i'm wondering what you think that means and whether you think that from that statement, judge cannon sounds skeptical. the argument yeah i don't think she's ultimately buying it. i think she likes to give out these little commentaries, extraneous remarks during oral arguments, we've seen that before on other hearings and then she's still ruled against trump. but what the argument coming from the trump team as well as the amici that's submitted briefs and their support. we saw some of those notes coming now from reporters afternoon was basically that the court's gone it wrong since the 70s, that the special counsel can't be set up the way they've been throughout all those decades that the nixon ruling was wrong and everything that came after it was wrong, that even if the original independent counsels from the 80s and 90s were a little different, and those were made the ones that have come out recently, like molar and her and smith are all unconstitutional and that they should be thrown out. it's not going to go anywhere in the end, even if by some chance judge cannon war to rule in trump's favor on this, i absolutely expect the 11th circuit would refer. but again, it's the delay that mattered and they got to day and a half long hearing out of what should have easily been resolved a month or two ago on papers, you sort of you outlined that you thought this would go to an appellate court and that it would get overturned. but let's say for the sake of hypothetical, it's successful. what happens to trump's case? >> if this if that's thrown out, if jack smith's appointment and his use of authority here is unconstitutional, the case is dead and arguably it would impact the dc case as well. we're judged chutkan already rejected this argument, but that would absolutely implicate both cases would ultimately go into the supreme court if for any reason judge cannon, annie 11th circuit, ruled were to rule in donald trump's favor. i don't anticipate that will happen, but look, there's been a lot of we didn't anticipate these rulings over the last couple of years. we're waiting to hear the immunity ruling any day i gave up predicting with certainty anything as many of us have bradley moss. >> appreciate you joining us. thanks for the time absolutely. briana trump's criminal conviction last month helped propel the former president to another huge month of fundraising for the second month in a row. trump campaign donations have topped biden's trump hauling in a stunning $141 million in may, according to his campaign. and much of it coming right after his criminal so conviction in the hush, money falsifying documents, trial, biden and the democratic party, they fell well short of that, even though they reportedly raised a whole lot of money more than $85 million last month we're also learning some new details about how the candidates are preparing for their upcoming debate and also some very important logistical details about that first presidential showdown, which will be next thursday right here on cnn, we have cnn's kayla tausche, who's joining us now to talk more about this. all right, this fundraising haul in the disparity, at least in the course of these couple of months, it's pretty big. >> it is pretty big, but the trump campaign began leapfrogging biden in april when the hush money trial got underway. and so i think there's a view from the biden campaign that they believed that it's not sustainable, but that sort of thing is not going to happen every single month going into november. but of course, only time will tell, but that being said, they have $212 million cash on hand at the end of may. >> that may mean that they need to make smaller advise or have smaller outlays depending on what the next few months look like. >> remember, they had a $50 million ad by focusing on the criminal conviction of donald trump. that is just for the month of june across battleground states. so that is a very big number, but it also brianna raises the stakes for the debate next thursday today because president biden is going to want to bring in a lot of donations on the back of his performance. there. how's it getting ready for it? >> well, he's a familiar event. he's got a familiar playbook and a lot of familiar so your faces around him generally, they start with more informal discussions going through binders of topics materials, watching old clips, refining what they believe is going to be asked and discussing punches, counter punches, and to do that, we've learned from sources that the president's personal attorney, bob bauer, is likely to reprise his role as a stand-in for trump he has recently written that in 2020 when he served in that role, he was at his trump worst. he really tried to act the part studied the character and really step into that role and aids expect him to reprise that role in camp david this weekend. but depending on how it goes, there, also reserving the possibility that the president travels straight to atlanta from camp david if you see him at whitehouse events next week, that is going to tell you that they're feeling optimistic. >> alright, we're looking to see if that's the case. kayla. thank you so much. let's bring in alayna treene to talk about what's really a big fundraising surge by the trump campaign quite the hall here, alaina that's right. >> i mean, donald trump's campaign and his political operation has really erased or as beginning to erase the ones dominant advantage, cash advantage, i should say that president joe biden's kid campaign has had are over him and that's really critical because we know that democrats have really been able to out match the trump campaign and advertising spending, spending and ground game strategy and over the next four months, that could really change how we see them operate on the campaign on i do want to just walk you through the number in may, donald trump raised $141 million. now, tens of millions of that figure was raised in the aftermath of his guilty verdict in his manhattan trial. and really it's the second month in a row that the trump campaign has outraised the biden campaign. biden campaign only brought in at 5 million in may. and so this is definitely a drastic change from what we had seen earlier this year, where donald trump's team was trying aggressively to try and catch up what seemed to be joe biden's ever-growing war chest. and so i can also tell you that just behind this scenes, donald trump has really been working on raising money out throughout his trial. there were a lot of questions about why he wasn't doing more rallies. instead, he was hosting a lot of fundraisers and attending a lot of fundraisers with wealthy donors, including a ton of billionaires. we also saw many billionaires give to one of donald trump's leading super pac maga they said they raise 68 million last month, 65 of which came from just three billionaires alone. one of them, timothy mellon donated 50 million to maga inc. guy he had previously given to rfk junior, but clearly has switched some of his loyalties here and is now supporting the former president how was he preparing for the debate? and do we know how he feels about what's going to happen with the microphone situation well luck. >> donald trump has already publicly and i know he's doing this behind the scenes as well. complained about the microphone situation. he does not want there to be any sort of cutoffs are any limitations to what he can say we know back in 2020, he famously we've talked to over joe biden and was very aggressive. and so that'll be different on the debate stage next week, but luck as far as planning. unlike the biden campaign, donald trump has no plans to do any mock debates or roleplaying instead, he's been engaging in what his team is calling policy discussions. they've had series of vital his presidential contenders senators policy experts, people from his former administration like kellyanne conway and rick are now briefing him and trying to sharpen his message on a few key topics. they think he is most vulnerable and one other thing, briana, i want to point your attention to is the expectations game. so for months now, donald trump and his team have really been painting job oh biden, as this week and feeble candidate, someone who is struggling with his mental and physical acuity. however, that's really lowered the expectations for joe biden. now they're trying to switch that take a listen to what donald trump told the all-out podcast yesterday i watched him with paul ryan and he destroyed paul ryan. so i'm not underestimating him. i'm not underestimating him. i assume he's going to be somebody that will be a worthy debater. >> so it's kind of rich to hear that from donald trump, where for months now, like i said, his team has really been doing what they can to paint biden in the worst light possible. we also saw one of donald trump's spokeswoman, karoline leavitt. she went on fox news yesterday and made a similar claim. she said that the mainstream media is the one who the group of people trying to lower expectations for this and luck, this is them that have done this. they have really tried to say that biden can barely stand for the 90 minutes now, they're a little bit more concerned about what that expectation setting will look like. and i can tell you, breanna, from a conversations with the trump campaign, it's definitely les been talked about behind the scenes and i think that's why you're seeing them. try to message this and get out ahead of it before next thursday. >> yeah. i mean, trump tries to make it out like biden's comatose, so it might be a little late for him to try to reverse on that strategy look, you get what you do. >> that's what he's done. >> so we'll see here, alayna treene. thank you coming up a new threat from russian president vladimir putin. how hill retaliate hey, if the west continues arming ukraine, also had the paris olympics. it has a pollution problem and it has left organizers racing against the clock solve plus the dangerous heat wave that is blanketing the us. it's about to impact millions more. we have those stories and many more coming up on cnn news central the cnn presidential debate thursday night at nine live on cnn and streaming on max there are giant so much they are the minute woman building or daibes next generation submarines. >> de, or giants. and what they do. because they were for tennis place where they can grow, where they can learn the skills to build careers as powerful as the beast. they four, we build to because it takes one to build one i'm getting vaccinated weiser's pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine hello, mine, because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia already gotten pneumonia vaccine but i'm asking about the added protection of krever 20 if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like asthma, diabetes, copd, or heart disease, or are 65 or older, you are at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia, prevnar 20 is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that house pneumococcal pneumonia in just one dose don't get prevnar 20 if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients, adults with weakened immune systems may have a lower response on the vaccine. >> the most common side effects were pain and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, fatigue, headache, and joint pain. >> i want to be able to keep my plans. >> i don't want to risk ending up in the hospital with pneumococcal pneumonia. >> that's why i chose prevnar to ask you your doctor or pharmacist about the pfizer vaccine for pneumococcal pneumonia here's some information about replacing windows and doors that just may surprise you. >> i'm brian gary. i'm here with brian price from renewal by anderson. >> hey, brian homeowners always ask my windows aren't even 10-years-old. why do i have to replace? 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