jesse watters a lot of katie pavlich, kevin walling, kayleigh mcenany, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ cheap fake alert. we just got another one of those unedited videos of the president acting like himself that drives the white house insane. joe biden seen shoveling at the speed of a elderly man with poor memory as he gingerly makes his way across the carmack to camp david. right now he has holed up for the next several days of nothing else on his schedule except a crime like crazy for the cnn presidential debate. a lot is riding on the big guy because as the way the liberal media puts it, if biden loses, democracy is dead forever. press laying out their sky high expectations for his perfo performance, like not freezing. >> he absolutely cannot have a senior moment at this debate. that is what i heard from, i was in wisconsin and michigan two weeks ago for a lot of focus groups, and what i heard from voters, democrats who support biden, they are going to be watching and they want to make sure that he is up to the task. >> republicans and trump and his minions have done themselves such a disservice with all of these edited, cut and spliced videos they are spreading around, they have lowered the bar so that if joe biden shows up and doesn't keel over on his way to the podium, he's had a good night. >> jesse: while joe gets tooled up to take on trump, the media is also trying to get biden to get it together on those plunging poll numbers and switch up his strategy. there is a new report in "new york" magazine asking, do liberals have it all wrong about how to beat trump? encouraging joe to move to the center. and cnn thinks biden's character attack on trump are failing to land as the former president obliterates biden's cash advantage. but kamala says biden is staying the course. >> when you look at the difference, i would ask people to really imagine what the world will be like on january 20th, 2025. the debate is going to make clear the contrast between our president, the current president, who works on behalf of the american people, fights for the american people, and the former president, who pretty much spends full-time fighting for himself. >> jesse: katie p, there is a lot of trepidation on the left. they need to change this strategy. he needs to do this. he doesn't need to do that. not a lot of confidence going into this debate. >> katie: yeah, could be again they are just doing this that when biden shows up, they can say he did a great job, he beat republican expectations, he made arguments, defended his record, when dr. trump's character, of course the media is going to approve of that the day after and highlight what they think biden did very well, but i was going back over the debate rules, and i think the american people are not getting a fair shake here. there is to be no opening statements, which of course candidates can make statements but there is an opening statement. also their microphones will be muted, so really there is not going to be this back and forth that we want to see, that everybody wants to see, and it really just doesn't give us an opportunity to see them go at each other, to see biden try to defend his record, trump relying on his record and focusing on the issues. i think it really is going to be a little bit boring. and too produced when it comes to what we are going to actually see when people can't talk unless their microphone is on. >> jesse: do you agree with the mute button? do you think that is going to take away the jazz? or is it going to be good to have the american people here a straightforward conversation? >> kevin: i mean, i would love to see that. the other thing interesting thing to katie's point, too, there is no live audience. both of these guys kind of feel themselves off the audience reaction. so that is going to be a noticeable change, as well. to katie's point, i think there is expectations setting, right, we are lowering expectations now, donald trump is out there saying actually joe biden is a great debater, great debate against paul ryan come all this kind of stuff come after months and weeks of saying this guy is incompetent, he can't get anything done, he can put two sentences together. >> jesse: that expectation. >> kevin: he is the master of putting folks down like that, but certainly i think a lot of guys are going to be on this debate next thursday. we have wall-to-wall coverage here on fox. and it's going to be critically important because it will be the first time these two are on the same stage together since the last debate four years ago. >> jesse: they are saying biden needs to move to the center appeared is it a little late for that, katie? i mean -- >> kayleigh: kayleigh. i'll take it. i love katie, so i'll take it. i do think it is a little late. we saw that with the late executive order of o come all of a sudden i care about asylum. he obviously does not. to the expectations point, there has been a lot of conversation about the g.o.p. lowering expectations, but what expectation has biden set for trump? for three and a half years, we have heard maga is a clear and present danger, they are a threat to our republic, they are are, to quote them exactly, they embrace anger and thrive on chaos, so to the point of your monologue last night, jesse, what happens when trump shows up with humor and just. we know we can be charming, and diminishes the expectations that president biden has set? i think there is a very real risk of that. i would say to biden, if i were prepping at camp david right now, do not say convicted felo. for your campaign has leaned in, but what has the lead in cost you? the loss of your cash on hand advantage. trump has now trounced human fundraising because you have leaned into this. so if you lean into it further, biden might as well quit running for office and become the chief fundraiser for trump. >> jesse: kayleigh saying they have made trump into a monster and he will be thrashing and throwing things if he is just out there, a few jokes. >> greg: okay, watters. >> jesse: think he will be the expectations that way? >> greg: i don't know. first of all, they want him to move to the center to win an election. why not move to the center to help the country? if you had done that sooner, you wouldn't be doing that now, when it's probably too late. i hate the fact that you need an election to do the right thing or do the decent thing. but anyway, they don't listen to me. i think the cheap fakes right now are designed, likely designed to make joe look normal. remember there was a 20-second ad, i think it was about the debates, where joe said two sentences. it had eight edits in it. do you remember that? it was more caught up then joe's food. and even with those edits, he didn't look coherent, he looked like max headroom with, what's that guy, walter the dummy? the only cheap fake is on jesse's head. but i do feel bad for joe. because there are people in d.c. who are pushing democrats to replace kamala with hillary. and that's not fair to joe. so far he's only had to worry about dying from natural causes. but if elections were honest, trump would win in a landslide, but dems are looking to do something. i don't trust them. sorry, kevin. >> kevin: this guy. >> greg: look at what they have already done to win, whether russian collusion, the pee tape, laptop suppression, comparing everybody to hitler, the lawfare unprecedented of the january 6th commission, you think they're going to stop at the finish line because they are guy is almost finished himself? they are working on something. i don't know what it is. could be another big hoax. may be his cognition is the hoax, i don't know. >> katie: one more thing, what kevin was saying about being back on the debate stage. donald trump should remind joe biden of what he did on the debate states last time they were together, when he told the country that the hunter biden laptop was a russian disinformation up, abusing the intelligence community, saying they were endorsing the fact there was a russian disinformation campaign. he should remind them that he was lying to them on that day. he didn't take any money, his family never took money from china or all of these other foreign countries. that wasn't true. he should remind him of the last time they were together, the things joe biden said to the american people while they were watching now that he had the opportunity to do it again. >> jesse: joe might not even remember he said that at the last debate. >> greg: can i make a chilling theory? what if the dems are better with losing? they are actually okay with it? i mean, it doesn't seem like they are, like, into this anymore. maybe they see something ahead that is coming that is really bad. if you think about, it took 200 years to get $1 trillion in debt, now we get a trillion dollars in debt every 100 days. if you step back, that looks like a spiral, you know, and it's a spiral you won't feel until the plane hits the ground. what if they know that that plane is going to hit the ground and 1-4 years. maybe they don't want to be in power when that happens. >> jesse: i think they definitely want to be in power -- >> kevin: we want to be in power. the white house christmas parties, if nothing else. >> jesse: coming up, joe biden has more blood on his hands. gut-wrenching new details after two illegal immigrants brutally strangle a 12-year-old girl to death. ♪ ♪ here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. hey. you seein' this? 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a houston police union chief is blasting joe biden for letting a wave of illegal killers. >> they should not have been allowed to be in the country. we have our own basically homegrown criminals that we have to deal with, and then you couple that with other individuals coming from different countries and illegal, entering illegally into the state and into our city, and they are committing some violent acts. this is just another glaring effort, a glaring act they committed on the citizens of houston by people who crossed this border illegally. >> kayleigh: so jesse, and ecuadorian illegal, caught and released, rapes a 13-year-old in new york. then they going to kill someone. catch, release, some cases assault and murder. >> jesse: exploiting inside our country like ieds. it feels like a terror attack today. and joe biden is catching and releasing killers and rapists. they are pouring into the country and committing heinous crimes. these are not your typical criminals, kayleigh. they are strangling girls with their bare hands. that means you are feeling and watching the life leave a body. that is some sick, sadistic, b steal stuff right there. and then they are bashing their heads and with rocks? they are leaving bodies and creeks, in woods? they are tying women up and raping and recording on their phones on watching them later? serial sexual predators, serial killers, and they don't belong here. these are third world animals. and this is going to detonate every single week, just like this, until the election. and there is no way the media is going to be able to keep a lid on this stuff. on local media markets, this is exploding right now. on social media, it is searing through the country. fox is covering it. the republican nominee for copresident is mentioning these names at rallies. he is calling the families, sometimes meeting with the families. joe biden cannot sit back in silence and point fingers here. this is now a national security threat, and it should be treated like that. >> kayleigh: it showed. look at this phase, katie. that is jocelyn. i went to bed last night, and then you wake up and you hear about her and her mom put her to bed and then she wakes up at her daughter is gone? laken riley goes for a run. rachel morin has five sweet babies that don't have a mom now. what names are we going to learn in the coming days? it makes me scared living here, anyone in the country. >> katie: what is the price that the biden administration is willing to pay? these killers came over and said that they were released because they said they were fearing for their lives. and yet, they were released into the country. if donald trump has gotten a lot of heat from people in the media for saying he is too harsh on this issue. he is categorizing these people inappropriately. he is saying they are coming from prisons, that they are criminals, rapists and murderers. well, there is a whole lot of them come and if there is no excuse for a single one of them to be here, and if they are committing crime after crime, these are the most horrific crimes, but there are also crimes that change people's lives, hit-and-run, drunk driving, theft going up in a number of places all over the country, people having to pay for their own accidents because these people don't have car insurance and they are driving illegally. it continues to go on, donald trump will get on the phone with someone in venezuela, if you don't stop sending these criminals here, you're going to pay for it, and you are going to pay for it in a really harsh way. get it under control and the idea now that you have a majority of people saying they want deportations because of exactly stuff like this. people know people this is happening to and they are tired of it and they don't want their kids or their wife or a family member to be next. they are just another story, i believe out of colorado, an illegal immigrant who killed a grandfather. innocent americans are suffering as a result of this crisis that the biden administration has created and opened the floodgates, and they are not trying to do anything to fix it. >> kayleigh: all across the country. and the aider and abettor of all of this, greg, is the media. this headline is astonishing. this is how the associated press, they are a wire service, a lot of outlets take their headline and run with it: "two men -- men -- arrested and strangled a 12-year-old houston girls. they were illegal immigrants come up. >> greg: how do they know they are men? to the ask how they identify? the left always says silence equals death, except they don't say that here when it was real. if you keep quiet about these murders, more will come, but it is the media all they that is enforcing the overall silence. only these victims were trans, indigenous, two-spirit animals, the culprits were cops, off-duty cops in mega hats, this would be on a loop, but as it stands right now this story has a lit on it like joe biden every day. i think the message you get from the media is they don't value the victims unless they fit a progressive narrative. they will have you believe thousands of unarmed black men were killed by police officers every year, which is false, or thousands of teens will kill themselves without access to genital mutilation, but when you have real examples of horrible tragedy, nothing to see here. american girls and moms, they don't have the cachet of an ex-con flooded with drugs or a pro-hamas protester pushed aside by a cop. it is no wonder dems are losing women from their party because america is just losing women period. i got to say, you have to remember all of this stuff, because if trump wins come at it looks like it's going to happen, i think, i don't know, and the deportations begin, what are you going to hear from the media? you are going to have the tears of aoc at the border. you are going to have -- you are going to be accused of lack of empathy, lack of compassion, and they are going to pretend like none of this ever happened. because that's happened before. >> kayleigh: that's right. you know, kevin, joe biden has a few choices. he could say the name rachel morin rachel morin. he could shave the name, jocelyn. he could call the families and pick up his pen come probably not paint, pick up his pen and sign the 84 executive actions he strutted, why doesn't he do any one of those three things? >> kevin: listen, this is just terrific come at the end of the day, what jesse described with these two individuals did for this 12-year-old girl in texas, the real girl getting 13-year-old girl getting raped in new york. i am a democrat but i am an american first. there is no excuse to have -- i hate to make politics out of this. the left of my party in terms of pro-immigration community, he s, getting a lot of grief from the left of my party about it, right? that we have seen deportations increase since then, 20% decrease in migrants crossing that border. i think that is a positive step, to katie's point. we have to remove these elements from our society, 100%. they have no business being in these country. these criminals to gang elements, fentanyl coming across, and i think again the president took a good step earlier this month because congress, for 45 years, has failed to act on this. >> kayleigh: trump managed to figure it out -- >> kevin: we still had millions of people over those four years crossing that border. it's a dereliction of duty from this congress that has failed to act, failed to change our asylum laws. to katie's point -- go >> kayleigh: you don't need congress, you need remain in mexico -- >> kevin: that was a covid situation -- >> kayleigh: not remain in mexico -- >> kevin: a lot more remaining in mexico with joe biden negotiating that. to katie's point, these individuals presented themselves at the border, said the right words, okay, we fear for our lives -- >> katie: committed fraud. >> kevin: and are in this country. so we need to do something certainly about that situation, 100% appear to be by those mothers and daughters would still be with us if not for the direct failure of your government, so there is that. no one is above the law. alvin bragg throwing the book at donald trump and letting the pro-hamas campus agitators slide. ♪ ♪ ♪ that colonoscopy for getting screened ♪ ♪ is why i'm delaying ♪ ♪ i heard i had a choice ♪ ♪ i know the name, that's what i'm saying ♪ -cologuard®? 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