else going on here, any ulterior motive or anything that could serve the president's interest by not trying to tackle this issue aggressively? >> well, i'll give the president the benefit of the doubt and say i hope not because i think the one thing all three of us can agree on is what's happening now is not good for our country, not good for the women and children that are sitting in detention centers. it's complete chaos on our borders. not only is that bad for families and it's bad for the country, it also leaves us open to all kind of things, not just illegal immigration but we also have had security problems. there's security issues and it's a free flow right now. there's nothing stopping people from coming over these borders, and they're doing it more and more every day, and as we learn more and more that we don't have control of our borders, it just increases the numbers and we need action now, not wait for the politicians to talk about it for a couple more months. >> gabriella, something you were about to allude to, is the government -- the u.s. go of the is launching this ad campaign down in central america, $1 million ad campaign being produced, these tv spots, trying to encourage people, say do not