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aid into gaza. netanyahu shutting down that request, one of the very latest on why. plus, some new and surprising reporting about the speaker of the house, mike johnson, and why he has never even disclosed any financial information about himself. not even listened to bank accounts on his own disclosure. i'll be joined by the reporter who raise some of these questions about why. and i'm gonna bring you part of my conversation with two iranian american filmmakers, we're reclaiming the narrative that how their communities are being portrayed in hollywood. >> all of a sudden, we saw all of these exhibits, or these plays, or films, it inspired us to really become a part of representing our people. >> we want to start with the latest on the ground offensive by israel in gaza. happening right now, thousands have gathered in tel aviv to show their support for hostages being held in gaza. we'll keep our eyes on that. meanwhile, israeli troops continue to bomb the region, claiming to have killed dozens of terrorists, as they put, in the last 24 hours. nbc news has not confirmed those details. it says calls for humanitarian cease fire grow louder. let's bring in jay gray from tel aviv, to talk us through all of this. if you can, jay talk to us about some of the action that we've been seeing on the ground in tel aviv that i just mentioned, in support of the release of these hostages. any advancement that we know that can aid in hostage negotiations admits the offensive from israel? >> yes. it's interesting, yasmin. we know there were communications going on with qatar, they're intermediary. those talks have continued. but they have, according to those in qatar, really changed in tenor since the offensive, and the push into gaza has really accelerated. and as those troops have expanded, their footprint into gaza. so it has become, according to those who are involved with the negotiations, a much more difficult process. we know there are about 240 hostages right now, according to the idf. and what hamas has said, is that they will release the hostages if there is a cease-fire, and israel says, if you release the hostages, there will be a cease-fire. so it is a circular argument between the two publicly, as they continue to talk again behind the scenes. the u.s., and outside observer in all of this, it is really qatar talking with israeli diplomats, talking with hamas, and trying to work this out. we know that egypt to has been involved in a bit of the negotiations. but to this point, we've heard nothing on any pending releases at this point. i should tell you, here in tel aviv, there was a rally tonight, as part of what has become a sit-in for families of the hostages, who have now decided that they are going to camp out in one of the squares here in tel aviv, and intend to stay there until they say, the hostages come home. so they continue to try and put pressure on the israeli government here, to do what they can to bring those hostages home. when you talk to the families of the hostages, what they will tell you is, they believe there should be at least a pause in the fighting as well. so that is of course, that's beginning to grow louder, not only globally, but here in tel aviv, and israel as well. >> jay gray forest. thank you jay, we appreciate it. the israeli army, trading fire with iran-backed hezbollah, along its border with lebanon earlier today. >> we see those massive plumes of smoke, visible a day after hezbollah's leaders gave his first speech, hasan nasrallah, since the war broke out. i want to bring in -- to talk more about this. the widening alley, the escalation of this war has been a persistent concern since this war began after the attack on the israelis on october 7th. we have heard somewhat consistent calls from iran, the foreign minister as well, they are not looking to get involved directly in this war. talking about their proxies, that is a different conversation. talk me through what we heard from the hezbollah leader, hasan nasrallah yesterday, who we know, obviously, is backed by iran. >> hi yasmin, that is right. nasrallah says he takes his -- iran created hezbollah. but his speech wasn't what we were expecting. in many ways, it was a typical nasrallah speech. it was long, it felt like a lecture, and it was laced with threats. but there was no declaration of war. there were no ultimatums made by him, that if israel, you know, didn't stop the incursion, that hezbollah would get involved or fire some of their hundred and 50,000 rockets towards israel. none of that was there. he made some veiled threats about, you know, there has been unprecedented cross border fighting with israel. israel would make a massive mistake if they carried out a preemptive strike on lebanon. and it warned of further escalation on the lebanese front, he warned it was a possibility. but no declaration of war. >> can you talk to me at all about how the secretary of state's visit to the region as well, and what he had to say yesterday how it has been received in iran? and in the region? >> well, those, his words basically fall on deaf ears here in iran. their entire objective has, in many ways, been realized, yasmin. iran has been quite victorious in this battle. they've reached many of the things they wanted. their main proxy had dealt a terrible blow to israel on october the 7th. they have seen antisemitism on the rise, they have seen a mass protest in support of palestine, in western cities, something that -- talks about with great relish over the last few days. and iran has come out of this completely unscathed. so this has been a big victory for iran, no matter what the direction of this war goes into. so, what secretary blinken has to say, it isn't really very important for iranians. iran doesn't really want a regional war here. what they want rather is to undercut israel, and more importantly, undercut the united states. and they have kind of done that for now. >> as always my friend, thank you. so today also marks 28 years since the assassination of israeli prime minister -- robyn was a champion for peace and a two-state -- signing the oslo accord in 1995 but just months later he was assassinated by an israeli assess -- before his death, it was led by now prime minister benjamin netanyahu. coming up, trump on trial. both don junior and eric testified in the civil fraud case. what to expect with the former president takes a stand on monday. we are back in 60 seconds. are back in 60 seconds. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ -missing punches? 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in the assessments of these properties. if in fact they find, or it is found that they perjured themselves on the stand, could not complicate things? >> well, it could yasmin. but even before you get to that point, there are still six charges that the judge hasn't ruled on, involving the provision of false statements. and there is some suggestion that each of these individuals could play a role in some, or all of those statements. so that is the first issue for the judge to determine. if they have in fact committed perjury, and i'll tell you, as a former prosecutor, that it is not as easy as thinking someone lied on the stand, there has to be a very specific question, and a clearly incorrect answer before charges can be brought. but if that proves to be the case here, the attorney general can certainly look into that. >> there was this document that was produced, that was, it was talked by adam crossfield, who is inside the courtroom, and it talked about whether the president actually reinstated himself to trump org. saying, new york a.g.'s council shows a document showing that former president trump restored himself as trustee on january 15th, 2021. i am wondering, joyce, if this at all could help jack smith's case, and or fani willis's case. and at the president knew he had lost this election, and was returning to private life. >> yes, so it is a very interesting question, for one thing, he was still the president, at the point where he retake control of his company. for any other person in public office, that would be a shocking violation of trust. for trump it seems almost predictable. i think, as its evidentiary value goes, this would be a key piece of evidence, had this happened prior to january six. or even sooner after the election. as it is, this close to, what that point was the inevitable turnover of government to joe biden, i think trump would simply say that he was preparing for the long flight that he did not believe that he had lost the election, but he knew that he was going to be wrongfully removed from office. so he would have that sort of built in defense. nonetheless, this is an additional piece of cumulative evidence that shows trump was aware he had lost. >> i want to talk about the mar-a-lago documents case as well. the judge overseeing the mar-a-lago case, judge aileen cannon, firing back at prosecutors this week. i believe it was yesterday, because prosecutors were claiming that she in fact was being manipulated by the former president and his attorneys, in asking for yet another delay. we know this trial right now is set for may. she has indicated that there will likely be another delay to that. what do you make of all of this? and are you surprised? >> here is what the dispute was about. trump's lawyers asked her to delay the case, saying that it would conflict with the trial that would be conducted in the district of columbia. frankly, that is just unlikely on the map. because prosecutors estimated that their case in d.c. would take 4 to 6 weeks, that means that there is a grace period of about five weeks between the projected and in that case, and the start of the case and mar-a-lago. but what happened here that is absolutely stunning, is that after they walked out of this hearing in front of judge cannon, trump's lawyers turned around and filed a motion in the district of columbia, asking judge chutkan to delay their trial. they did not disclose that judge in florida, judge cannon, they simply said we think there will be a conflict, so you should move your trial back. virtually any judge i've ever appeared in front of would be outraged that trump's lawyers had kept something so important from them, instead judge cannon took advantage of the opportunity to criticize prosecutors, and did they technically exceeded the word count of the short of notice to the court. but she could've taken judicial notice of the trump filing, and the district of columbia. and asked those lawyers to explain their failure of candor to the court. she did not do that. >> joyce vance, thank you as always. we appreciate you. still ahead, what years of disclosure forms reveal about new speaker mike johnson's finances. up first, president biden traveling to maine, days after the state experience's deadly shooting. what he told the grieving community. we will be right back. be right back. oh... stuffed up again? 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