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>> the american right wins the need to a criminal. >> it was exciting after all he had been through, how strong this man is. >> tonight the authoritarian takeover of the republican party and the moderate display that could make kim jong-un blush. >> he speaks and people sit up at attention. i want my people to do the same. >> he is always so sweet and recognizes me. >> there is your cake, sir. then, chris murphy on the supreme court ruling that just ended a trump era gun safety law. and you will not believe how republicans in one state are choking off democracy. >> north carolina's state constitution says you have the right to free and frequent elections. but it does not specifically say they have to be fair. >> when all in starts right now. good evening from washington, i'm jason johnson and for chris hayes. before yesterday donald trump had not visited the u.s. capital since before the deadly january 6th insurrection that he had excited in hopes of overturning a democratic election and staying in power. it was an insurrection in which even republican lawmakers scattered and sheltered in fear for their lives. and at the time, some republican leaders harshly condemned trump for it. >> there is no question, none. president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. >> trump and i have had a journey. all i can say is count me out, enough is enough. i've tried to be helpful. >> so, you may have heard that trump returned to the scene of the crime yesterday, at the invitation of house and senate republicans who not only greeted him as a victor, but tried to read con in their early criticisms of trump's tierney. >> senator, how is it seeing the former president? >> we had a good meeting. we shook hands a few times, and he took questions from the audience. it was an entirely positive session. >> everybody in that room is dying for him to get back in office. it was the single best meeting i have ever seen between the united states republican senators and president trump, and i cannot wait to have them back. >> incredibly, the glowing reception from former trump critics and the party was just the tip of a massive kiss up iceberg as public and senators fitted trump with a birthday cake, a day ahead of his 70th birthday, and then lined up to applaud him. singing the praises of a dear leader who currently holds no office, but does hold complete sway over the re-election efforts. he awaits sentencing for his manhattan election interference conviction. >> he is electric. he has an incredible fastball. and i think it was just exciting, after all he had been through, how strong this man is. >> he was the team captain and we were glad he was leading us. >> he said very complement rethink about all of us. we had sustained applause. he said i'm doing a very good job. we are grateful for that. >> one of my favorite speeches, he came in, talked to the conference, was very honest. he was on a, he was joking around constantly with everyone. he was really sweet to me. >> he was electric. a lot of mainstream media reporting seems to be at a loss as to how to frame yesterday's bizarre, unprecedented republican embrace of trump and his 34 felony convictions. a lot of it read like a social media post the associated press, who went crazy with the additives, calling it a triumphant return that energized republicans, who are reinvigorated by his white house bid. but if you zoom out for the big picture here, it is hard to argue with this description of the days events. from talking points memo publisher josh marshall on social media. quote, pyongyang moment in the rotunda. the maniacal clapping in unison, marjorie taylor greene was breaking down in tears because trump smiled at her, total north korean vibe. member, donald trump is a man who was president, showered praise on north korea's dictator, kim jong-un, exchanging love letters with him and pining for the kind of deference that kim got from his subjects. >> hey, he is the head of a country, and i mean he is the strong head. don't let anyone think anything different. he speaks and his people sit up at attention. i want my people to do the same. >> nobody in north korea would dare to think of indicting or convicting kim jong-un for his crimes, right? to donald trump, that is respect. but you already knew this. you probably remember during his presidency there were plenty of ways that trump tried to emulate dictators and strongmen. it was evident in the behavior that got him impeached twice, and his burning desire for a self glorifying soviet style military parade with tanks celebrating him in the streets of washington, an idea that his top generals had to talk him out of. those elements have always been there. the difference now is that donald trump is a convicted criminal who is facing several more serious criminal trials, and he is desperate to avoid jail. the entire american justice system to accommodate him, his past crimes, and any possible future ones. and the republican party is prostrating themselves before him, ready to help them in that task. former capital police sergeant beaten by riders with a flag while defending the capital on january 6. he writes about this in his book, american shield, the immigrant sergeant who defended democracy. he joins me now. thank you so much for your service. >> thanks for having me here. >> i want to start with this. i have also interviewed harry dunn. i have a tremendous amount of respect for what you all did, what you continue to suffer. just your first reaction to seeing donald trump, the man responsible for that violence, walking back into the capital building not in handcuffs, not in her jumpsuit. how does that make you feel? >> very disappointing. all the sacrifices that we did on january 6th, those same members that yesterday applauded and greeted the former president as if he did something great at the capital, and they were running for their lives. they seem to forget how fearful they were running for their lives on that day. it is astounding that instead of giving the police officers that type of recession they chose to give that to the former president, the same guy who put their lives and our lives at risk. unfortunately, we can't depend on republican let officials any longer to defend the constitution or democracy, because they only had fealty for one person, and that person is donald trump. >> i want ask you a little bit about this. because this is the part that gets me. and certainly i could not be angrier than you, i was not there. you are making my and all of our audiences. >> i'm trying to keep it down. >> it is infuriating to me, not just because of trump, but how did it feel seeing the senators and congressmen? as you said, they were hiding behind desks, running down the hallway asking to stay in your apartment. and here they are, praising the same guy. your friends who are still there, working there, does that make it difficult to go to work knowing that these cowards -- seem like it does. one of the things that happened on, after january 6th is that i lost my career because of that horrible day. and when i was still in the process of recovering, i had this struggle in my mind, like okay, what if there is another january 6th. and the republican elected officials, are they going to have my back, to help me close the doors? or do i have to watch the threat in front of me and then behind me? so, how can i do my job in a neutral way, in an impartial way, in a split second decision that is probably going to somebody's life, either minor there's. and some of these members, on january 6th, they knew who put their lives at risk. and we did our job, we protected both elected officials, both from republican and democrat the same. i protected your elected officials, just the same way i protected marjorie taylor greene or aoc or chuck schumer. we don't care. and i can only wonder how the officer feel yesterday, because it bothers me and i wasn't even there. and instead of holding a him accountable for it, instead of denouncing him, they have chosen to welcome him as a hero, as if you did something great. what was so great about an attack on the capital? what was so great? and, you know, about offering pardons for the same people, blanket pardons for the rioters who attacked the police officers . and now, like you said, he wants people to stand at attention like a dictator, flirting with others has been some, and that is not ronald reagan's party anymore. >> not at all. and i want to highlight this, because it is not just national. it is not just the cowardly republicans and the seditions in office. you and officer done were booed at the pennsylvania state house. how did that feel? it is one thing, again, to have these cowardly seditions. but to go to a statehouse of regular men and women who you would think would understand what you do more, how would that feel? and -- >> republicans and sylvania chose to walk, literally tore their back on former officers who defended their colleagues at the capital. and they don't have no conscience about what they did. they don't realize what we did on january 6 to keep the embers of the mob of the capital, actually saving their colleagues. they would be more receptive to what we had to say. and we were there, just to observe the chamber, and we were not going to give a speech, that was not her point. but the mere fact that they recognize all the people in the chamber, all their visitors, and when the outing came up they decided to walk away. and jared us for no reason. that was, to me, a slap in the face of the sacrifices that we did on january 6th. we were officers at that time, and they seemed to do the little usual of election talking points if they did, they would have at least given us a chance to give a conversation, but now they will not do that. >> and show you the respect you absolutely deserve. thank you so much for your time. you are an american hero. former capital police department , thank you so much for joining us tonight. still ahead, the supreme court proves it is even more extreme than donald trump, and that takes work. senator chris murphy joins me on today's radical gun decision. but first, democracy on the brink both here and abroad. former u.n. ambassador susan rice joins me on how we can protected. next on all in. just can't. ♪♪ mop smarter with the swiffer powermop. hi. my name is kim and i am 41 years old. i've been given the opportunity to work from home, so that means lots of video calls. i see myself more and i definitely see those deeper lines. i'm still kim and i got botox® cosmetic. i wanted to keep the expressions that i would normally have, you know, you're on camera and the only person they can look at is you. i was really happy with the results. i look like me just with fewer lines. botox® cosmetic is fda approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet, and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness may be a sign of a life-threatening condition. do not receive botox® cosmetic if you have a skin infection. side effects may include allergic reactions, injection site pain, headache, eyebrow, eyelid drooping and eyelid swelling. tell your doctor about your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. see for yourself at botoxcosmetic.com. 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[ speaking minionese ] yippee! and see "despicable me 4" in theaters july 3rd. rated pg. choose advil liqui-gels for faster, stronger and longer-lasting relief than tylenol rapid release gels because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. we're trying to save the planet with nuggets. because advil targets pain abecause we need the planet. . and we also need nuggets. impossible. we're solving the meat problem with more meat. right now it feels like global democracy is down bad, like dallas mavericks bad. it feel like we are at the half- time in the game of global democracy, and the pro- democracy team is down 10 points. but it is not just here in the united states. it is happening around the world. in india, the world's largest democracy, strongman narendra modi was just elected to a third term. although he did lose his majority in parliament for the rest engineers. in mexico, the mirena party which has worked to dismantle democratic institutions, one in a landslide this month. in this way, far right populists slipped the european parliament elections, particularly in france. all the brown areas you see on this map are the towns and cities where far right parties secured the most votes. now, president emmanuel macron has called a snap legislative election that threatens to hand power to the right-wing national party. so, with donald trump on the ballot again here at home, it feels like now is time for the united states to keep the world from going off the deep end this november. susan rice served as the u.s. ambassador to the united nations and as national security adviser to president obama. she most recently served as domestic policy adviser to president biden. she joins me now. ambassador, thank you so much for joining us this evening. i am going to ask you first, i know you are at the g7, there were some excellent things that were accomplished and we are going to talk about. but i'm going to ask you to talk me off the ledge. i never political scientist, i am a comparative politician. you know, comparative politics was my area of study. and i see these things, what happened in south africa, what happened in mexico. it seems like the only bright spot for democracy might be the british elections and in early july, and maybe what happened here. tell me i'm wrong. tell me that democracy is not with it's back up to the wall right now. >> well, jason, it is good to be with you. i do think you are actually somewhat wrong. i think it is a mixed bag that we are seeing internationally. and you say south africa is a bad story, i think quite the opposite. i think the fact that the anc, which has ruled for three decades lost its majority and is now having to form a coalition, the advance of democracy. i think the fact that narendra modi, widely expected to sweep in india, lost. he lost many, many seats, and lost, in particular, in the areas where he tried to use anti-muslim hate as a key platform element. in europe i think the results were mixed. if you look at the overall composition of the european parliament, it has changed only marginally. and while there were setbacks, certainly in germany and france, there were advances in the nordics and places like hungary. i think this is a moment where democracy is under threat, not just in the united states, but in many parts of the world. but democracy is also showing its resilience. and in places, interestingly, where we have seen strongman and largely one-party rule for many years, there seems to be something of a trend of a backlash against that. now, what matters enormously, of course, is what happens in the united states. because we are the world leader democracy in the world looks to us for leadership. historically we have provided that leadership. but democracy is definitely on the ballot in the united states, with donald trump wanting to roll, as he said, as a dictator on day one, who has promised to pardon the insurrectionist that he incited at the tyco -- capital. he has only become more dangerous. he is now a convicted felon who completely disregards the rule of law. it is very much the case here in the united states, we have a test of our own democracy and that democracy must prevail under joe biden. >> so, we are taking a look at some of these g7 numbers. we have a stat here, if we look at the approval ratings of many of the g7 leaders, they are not very popular. and these are democracies, these are some of our biggest economics, some of them are our military allies. from your perspective, ambassador, why do you think many of these leaders are currently so unpopular with their constituents? is it frustration about the global economy? is it that people don't feel effectively represented? because i can run down policy lists of great things that say joe biden has published, but he, like many of these leaders, still seem to be underwater. >> jason, let's not confuse whether democracy is under threat with whether incumbents might be more or less popular at any given moment in time. democracy is about the competition among ideas and among leaders, and among parties. i think the competition is healthy in all of the g7 countries. the question is, in the united states, oh we re-elected joe biden, who is clearly and plainly committed to the rule of law, believes that the constitution matters, and that we are bound by the rules that we signed up to. or will voters return a man who is clearly authoritarian, who says things like hitler did some good things, who embraces vladimir putin as a genius and says that he will support him doing whatever he wants against nato? this is a man, and donald trump, whose own vice president, secretary of state, secretary is plural, secretaries of defense, national security advisers, and chief of staff all say that they really questioned whether he is fit to return to the presidency, and none of them have endorsed him. these are the people who worked most closely with him. that tells you a great deal about how dangerous and unhinged donald trump is, and what a threat he is to our democracy. so, joe biden has accomplished an enormous amount, as you have said, both internationally and domestically, just this week. for example, at the g7, he rallied our allies and bolstered international support for ukraine, imposed new sanctions on russia and china, so joe biden is strengthening our alliances, expanding nato, making the united states more secure, and donald trump is out with his go it alone approach that is extremely self- interested, all about what dictators he can make friends with every day of the week. >> ambassador, i have to ask you this quickly. you said part of what is helping democracy is competition, which is good. when the person you are competing with does not believe in democracy, isn't that inherently one of the dangers? joe biden wins, it is great. but if joe biden loses, as many democrats have said, as people who care about democracy, that maybe the end of democracy in this country if trump gets back in office, correct? >> we are saying the same thing, jason, yes. but that is not the case in canada, that is not the case in britain, that is not the case in many of the other countries you named. but here in the united states, absolutely. democracy is on the ballot, and we have a choice between a leader who cares about people, who is working to try to make lives better for working americans in this country, and has made enormous progress and has every ability to make more progress for the american people. compared to a man who is completely self-interested and out for himself. and against democracy, exactly. >> thank you so much, ambassador. thank you so much for joining us this evening. still to come, republicans band gun bump stocks after the 2017 las vegas massacre. the supreme court just made the legal again. senator chris murphy joined me on the court's extreme agenda, next on all in. i

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