is how can marco rubio be on the same ticket as trump because the constitution says and i have to say it right, that the elect tours from a state cannot vote for two candidates who are from the same state. they can only vote for one. >> they will make marco move right? >> that is the thing, does he have to move? how does the united states senator of florida move from florida? is that legal? we need a election lawyer to figure it out. i do not understand how they are talking about rubio as if it is eight ea choice to make. >> i am glad you are getting to the bottom of this. i will be watching. >> presidential campaign debates were invented by and for tv. 1960 was not just the first televised presidential debate, it was the first. washington never debated. lincoln famously participated in the lincoln and douglas debates but that was in a senate campaign and lincoln lost. we had 34 presidents in a row who never debated to get the job. if you are around 70. you can actually remember seeing every presidential debate in history, that is how few there have been. you could have seen every one of them and not one of those debates has actually been a test of anything presidential except demeanor and the only presidential campaign debater in history that has failed the basic demeanor test is trump. the debate rules are always absurd and test nothing about the job of the presidency. the rules tomorrow night are typical. they say the debate will begin with a question, candidates each allotted two minutes to respond. this will be followed by one minute rebuttals and responses. in the job of the presidency the president is never forced to give two-minute replies or 62nd replies about anything. ever. there is a ridiculous rule for tomorrow night's commercial breaks. there will be two of them and the wolves say campaign staff may not interact with their candidate during that time. that could not be more childish and unrealistic. presidents always can confer, not just with their staff but with the best experts in the world on every subject at any time for as long as they want. a better way to do this tomorrow night would actually be to allow the candidates to have as many staff as they want joined them on the stage throughout the debate and make sure all of them have microphones. the candidates should be allowed to turn to their staff and confer with them about anything at any time in the debate and we should be able to hear everything they say so we can hear if the candidate has competent or incompetent staff. we can hear the candidate overrule advisors and say something else. we can watch the candidates think and process information including possibly information they may not know until a staff member tells them or reminds them. a candidate should be allowed to let staff members answer questions for them just as the secretary of state answers questions on behalf of the president around the world as has every secretary of state in history, that is the way the presidency actually works. the presidency does not involve oral exams and memory quizzes. the president is allowed to forget what the marginal income tax rate is on couples filing jointly. there is always somebody in the room that knows the answer to that kind of thing which by the way is 22% and i do not know that because i used to write tax law and memorized the tax brackets, i know it's because i just looked it up. that is the way governing works. people are allowed to look up whatever fact they need when they need it and they are allowed to forget them when they do not need them because they can always retrieve them when they do. they should always be allowed to ask nearby experts or advisors for that fact, that is the way it works for senators, presidents, members of congress, mayors, city counselors. faithful viewers of this program with good memories may remember me issuing a version of this complaint about debates and how absurdly unrealistic they are and how they have nothing to do with the job because i have issued a version of this complaint about the debates every four years at least. what we will see in tomorrow night's debate is yet another example of just how unfit for the presidency trump is. trump will lie and we know he will lie because we know that he will speak and it is impossible for him to do one without the other. there is a new rule in tomorrow night's debate which has not been tried before. microphones will be muted throughout the debate except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak. that should be called the trump world. that was obviously written to keep trump under the kind of control that all presidential debaters before him have been capable of imposing on themselves. tomorrow night's debate audience could be the biggest audience the candidates have this year and on the eve of the debate, former republican congressman adam who served on the house select committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the capital, for the first time in his life, endorsed the democrat for president. >> i am adam and i am a proud conservative. as a proud conservative i always put democracy in our constitution above all else and it is because of my unwavering support for democracy that today i am endorsing biden for reelection. my life has been guided by the conviction that america is a beacon of freedom, liberty and democracy so while i do not agree with biden on everything and i never thought i would be endorsing a democrat for president, i know he will always protect the very thing that makes america the best country in the world, our democracy. trump poses a threat to every fundamental value, he does not care about our country or you, he only cares about himself and he will hurt anyone and anything in pursuit of power. we solve that when he tried to overturn a election he knew he lost in 2020. encouraging a violent mob of supporters to march on the capital, now he is becoming more dangerous. he has called for the determination of the constitution. he is continuing to stoke the flames of political violence. there is too much at stake to sit on the sidelines. for every american of every political party, now is not the time to watch quietly as trump threatens the future of america. now is the time to unite against biden and showed trump off the stage once and for all. >> leading us off tonight is the former assistant democratic leader in the house of representatives. a national cochair of the biden 2024 campaign. thank you very much for joining us. you were in my judgment and many others, the single most important endorsement biden got four years ago to send him on his way to taking the white house. how important do you see the kinds of endorsements he is getting from prominent republicans now like adam? >> thank you for having me lawrence. very important. i think tantamount to everything, democracy is on the ballot this year. when you have people like adam and other corporate americans as well as well as other republicans i know that will be endorsing biden, it demonstrates that people are putting this country above partisan politics and i think that is so important this time. adam is correct, nobody agrees with biden on everything, i do not agree with biden on everything but that is not what this is about. this is about whether or not we will continue our support pursuit of a more perfect union. and what we will leave for our children and gang grandchildren, a country that will allow them to fulfill their dreams and aspirations without any fear of having to succumb to a dictatorship. trump is telling us each and every day that he has very little respect for the constitution, he is not concerned about the future of others outside of his own and we ought to take him at his word and get beyond the partisan politics, get beyond parties and think about what the future holds for all of us. >> are you finding there are voters out there were groups of voters who have been provided voters in the past who the biden campaign needs to reach out to tomorrow night in the debate with the campaign needs to do more work to hold onto those voters this year? >> yes no question about that. there are people that are a bit ambivalent about what is going on around them. they see the polling data that seem to be contrary to what they are feeling. it is contrary to what i have been feeling and experiencing. i was in georgia over the weekend. i did five events within 36 hours and i am telling you, people are listening, they are looking and they are feeling. what they feel is a lot of anxiety and we need to reach out to them. i said to biden on more than one occasion, no matter what question is asked, whatever the answer is, make it to very clear that your proposals, what they will do for the individual, what they will do for families and what they will do for communities. that is what this is about. people want to know whether or not they can dream of a future that their children and grandchildren can be proud of. >> in the south carolina debate four years ago in the primary among the democrats, that is the moment are you convinced biden to say publicly that he intended to appoint a black woman to the u.s. supreme court if he had a vacancy. is there something like that you think the president can say tomorrow night, is there some specific thing like that that you are hoping to hear from him? >> yes, the things he will do to preserve this democracy, to continue our pursuit of a more perfect union. let people know what he will build upon, what kind of health care system they can look forward to. i say all the time, it is one thing for things to be available to people, it is something else for them to be affordable and that is what i think the president needs to do. let people know this is what you can count on from me, to keep this democracy of the greatest democracy in the world and let people know how you plan to do that. now he has a great record, it is good to run on but as you run people need to look toward the future, what they can expect in their lives 5-10 years from now if you get reelected and i think he will get reelected and i do believe if he reaches out to people in this manner they will reward him handsomely in november. to make your constituents rallied around biden four years ago in south carolina. when they are asking you about biden now, are they asking how sharp he is or how he is doing? they must want to know the inside story about what biden is like now four years later with all of the talk about his age. >> they are concerned about that and i talk to people about that all the time, nobody can run away from their age and i am two years older than biden but i never had to overcome stuttering as a child, that is something he worked hard on and he is still not 100% and a lot of times when he rushes a word out, people see that as some kind of a gas. it is not a gas. one of my legs are shorter than the other as a result of a automobile accident when i was a child so i walk with a slight limp. sometimes you can notice and sometimes you cannot. it depends on what day it is as to how i will walk and that is the same with biden but there is nothing wrong with his brain. he has i think, one of the most masterful grips on the government of our country one can have and he shows it time and time again with the proposals he lays out for the american people so when you have good ideas that people can rally around irrespective of their stations in life, their skin color, or gender, irrespective of their status, he will do what is necessary to move the agenda forward and that is what is so good about biden. look at the announcement he made today about repairing a fault that took place with our men and women in uniform that nobody has thought about but he is coming forward and demonstrating his compassion. i would love to see that kind of compassion demonstrated tomorrow night as he gives his answers. >> thank you very 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case so the case cannot come to a trial before the election, now deserves to stand accused of trying to protect trump's position in the presidential debate tomorrow night. it seems likely the court will not issue its decision tomorrow but then can release it friday or next monday thereby shielding trump from any possible uncomfortable moment in the debate that could be created by their decision. the supreme court has made it difficult to try to imagine that they are not playing politics with at least the timing of that decision. today the court released a decision that brown jackson said only this court could love meaning perhaps only a corrupt court can love. it was a 6-3 decision in which all republican appointed justices agreed there is nothing corrupt about a government official being given money by a company after the company gets a big contract from that government official. the ruling overturned the bribery conviction of james snyder a former indiana mayor that was found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison for accepting 13,000 from a trucking company after it got 1 million in city contracts. the post reports the conservative super majority on the court found the federal law prosecutors used to convict james only applies to situations where officials accept gifts before taking government action, not to getting a reward after which is known as a gratuity. a gratuity? there is no such thing as a gratuity in government. in government that is called a payoff but we now know the supreme court itself is populated by government officials, by judges, who take payoffs. what they would prefer to call gratuities i suppose. clarence thomas alone has taken over 4 million worth of gratuities from ultrarich republicans who he did not know and had never met until he became a supreme court justice. in her dissent, jackson wrote officials that used to public positions for private gain threatened the integrity of our most important institutions. it seemed as if she was writing about the supreme court itself in that line. officials that use their public positions for private gain threatened the integrity of our most important institutions. that is exactly what clarence thomas has done for many years. he has used his position, his public position for massive, private gain and today clarence thomas said that is legal. so did the five other republican appointed justices. justice jackson wrote officials that use their public positions for private gain threatened the integrity of our most important institutions. greed makes governments at every level, let's efficient and left trustworthy to the communities they serve. joining us now is andrew wiseman, former chief of the criminal division in the east district of new york. andrew, your reaction to what the supreme court did not decide today and what they did. >> let's start with the snyder decision. the dissent. it is something i commend everybody to read. it is written in plain english and she takes the majority to task and i had the same reaction she was speaking about the supreme court itself. both to justices thomas and alito in terms of the money they have taken as public official but also to them in terms of saying emma you say you are originalist when it is convenient. she says okay let's looked at the text, a congressional statute that says it is illegal to pay bribes and receive bribes and to get rewards and she says that is it, we are done. i thought you were a textual list. that is why she says only this supreme court. this is supposed to be interpreting congressional language. it is not a policy debate in the supreme court and she calls them out saying you are having a policy debate and you lose even on the policy debate. who thinks it is fine to take a reward as long as you take the money afterwards? that is now the law. based on this supreme court. honestly the court did not issue the immunity decision. i will quote, i cannot wait to find out from the supreme court whether or not a president can kill someone. it is absurd that this was not decided six months ago when jack smith asked them to rule. this is one where the decision is the delay. yes we will get a decision but the decision is the fact that it took this long because jack smith will have one heck of a time trying to get it to trial before the election. >> to go back to the bribery, it was 13,000 after the fact after a $1 million contract to the company. let's change the numbers, let's say it is a much bigger contract to a bigger company and it is $1 million. a couple of weeks afterwards. the supreme court says no problem. >> absolutely. brown jackson goes through the fax and says you have to be kidding. he gave over $1 million into contracts and then this public official shows up at the door and says that will cost you 15,000 and the company nickels and dimes it down to 13,000 and when law enforcement comes and says what is this, he lies repeatedly and comes up with a series of fa