denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump a person like bobby kennedy who is really a messenger of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters from both sides that's back on deal's farm. i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. >> if we don't make some changes and find somebody who has creative solutions and somebody we can trust who wants to bring us together? we're gonna be on a world of hurt even rfk junior seemed to be pulling more votes away from biden or trump based on who you spoke to anderson kennedy's coalition of voters, they've really span the political spectrum polling data does indicate the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate in 2020. a lot of his support comes from the so-called double-haters. those holding unfavorable views of both biden and trump anderson, even mechan thanks the news continues here on cnn front next the breaking news, trump's interview with a probation officer wrapping up the first first of its kind in history, we have new details about the questions he faced and how his answers could affect his sentence, as well as who was in that room. plus a secret new recording tonight is supreme court justice samuel alito. >> this is the former republican governor kristi todd whitman breaks her silence about the man that she had publicly supported an introduced to the united states senate she now. regret backing alito, and it's the hottest stock on the planet. >> a little known company forcing apple today to play catch up we have a special report. >> let's go outfront and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight. the breaking news, former president trump, just wrapping up an interview with a probation officer. this is a first never in american history has a former president had to sit down with a probation officer well, because a former president has never been convicted of a crime. but here we are. this meeting was mandatory for trump as he is now a convicted felon in the state of new york. trump answering questions from his home and mar-a-lago. now, according to a source, the question answers lasted about half an hour and trump was asked we understand some of the basic questions that other convinced it did felons must answer those questions for regular felon would include questions about family background, financial status, living situation, and crucially, it chance for the defendant in this case trump to say why he thinks he deserves a lighter punishment now there is no pleading. the fifth year and the answers trump gave will influence judge juan merchan, who will formally sentence trump in july. here's the range trump is facing anywhere from probation two up to a maximum of 20 years in prison after being found guilty of all 34 counts in the new york hush money case. now, one of the most important drivers into whether which extreme this ends up on or where it ends up in that in that band is whether trump expresses remorse. and that of course is not happening trump today posting online, i truly wish people would remember that all of these trials in quotes are concocted and run by the crooked joe biden white house and doj for the purpose of election interference and damaging crooked political opponent me as much as possible. of course, it always bears noting in a moment when he says that the biden doj could have prosecuted this case and explicitly chose not to. and the white house, the white house officials privately call this case the run to the litter. but trump is going to melt this trial for all its political worth. and it comes as his top political ally today, rudy giuliani is now facing some justice of his own, charged with allegedly conspiring to overturn arizona's election. this just came out moments ago. what you're looking at on your screen is the mug shot of giuliani america's mare turned into trump's fall guy, and that is his mug shot in the state of arizona, maricopa county tonight brynn grasp begins our coverage outfront live in new york and brynn, you've got new reporting about this interview between trump and probation officer so what are you learning yeah, that's right. >> so aaron is interviewed, took place around 330 today, as you said, it lasted for about a half an hour, a bud source in new york city's who was familiar with the actual interview that took place over a virtual meeting telling are john miller that trump was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating, answering all the questions asked of him. now, we've reported that todd blanche trump's attorney was with him in mar-a-lago on that side? the virtual meeting by here in new york are understanding from this source is that the commissioner of the new york city probation department would need a homes was present. the general counsel for that department was present, as well as the probation officer that is assigned to trump's case. of course, this probation officer now will likely stick with trump and this will be the person who does the follow-ups. this are saying though that as of now, like i said, he answered all of the questions that were asked of him. and right now, there doesn't seem to be a follow-up, but of course there is always that option to should they need it. so one of my more details of how that probation interview went as we've described before, many questions could be asked of certainly about trump's background, his financial history, has he abused drugs or alcohol in the past? it's certainly not much ground covered in a 30 minutes, but of course, we're talking about a defendant like the former president here. now what happens next the defense it's her attorney, todd blanche, his team. >> they're going to submit a sentence recommendation to the judge. the probation officer, who conducted this interview is going to conduct. it's going to compile hello report. and these are just two elements that are gonna be factored into judge juan merchan's decision when he makes that sentencing done, which of course we know the days next month in july 11, aaron, are i brynn? >> thank you very much. in new york outside the courthouse, michael jacobson and our team join me here. michael, let me start with you because you are the former new york city correction and probation commissioner. so when need homes now doing that now. >> so what's your take of what happened today? >> we've been obviously probation or regular probation officer assigned to the case, but it sounds like the commissioner herself was in the room as well as the general counsel will certainly expected someone more than just a probation officer to be in that interview. i mean, it's so unusual for 1,000 reasons. most of them obvious but just the fact that it was remote. and that trump's attorney was there. those are two very odd things in enough themselves. so given all that, it certainly made sense that you would want someone other than the probation officer it certainly makes sense to me for the general counsel to be there the sort of equivalent of trump's attorney on the probation? and the commissioner runs the agencies. so i think she thought it was appropriate that she was there. >> now, i know these can often go up to 90 minutes or two. i then go longer. this went less than 30, and obviously this isn't a case where the judge needs to be reminded about the details of the defendant or anything like that as would be the case in normal situations. but what do you think they got out of it? >> well, it's just the beginning of what can be a pretty long and sometimes intrusive process. so you shouldn't take too much that it was just a a first polite interview. probation officer has wide berth here to get into, as you said alcohol and drug use. talking to pass as victims can examine trump's behavior in terms of the violation of the gag order revisit the finding that he sexually assaulted jean carroll. all that is open, fodder for a pre-sentence investigation. they wanted to sort of paint a broad picture. so this was the start of something at certainly not the end, which is important thing, right? it's not as if this is done and then we wait a month, right, terry, this is this is a part of it, but you've watched the judge so closely in that room, judge, that trump had referred to looking like an angel, but he was really the devil was the way trump put it but a judge who his demeanor was always positive, serious, he never never betrayed any sort of emotion how much weight do you think he will give this report, this interview that's the report that's going to come out of the interview that michael's talking about. i think he's going to take it very seriously, but like you said, aaron, he knows this defendant, he knows trump. >> he saw him every the day he saw trump violate the gag order ten times and he imposed the fine for that. and i think he's going to really want to see whether there is remorse and he's going to take what's been going on in las vegas, the rally, what he's saying and all of the things that he saying now really don't show remorse. and i think that is going to have an impact. i'm not saying he's going to incarcerate him, but i do think as to whether it's probation or house arrest or community service he's going to go with something that's a little more serious. so mark the way that it was described, brynn reporting, the way that trump handled himself today was that he was polite and respectful and accommodating to the probation officer. and the obviously the commissioner in the general counsel, who were also present for the new york parole commission. i'm sorry, probation commission. >> but this is the first time of foreign presidents ever been in a situation like this. >> mark, you've been in situations like this hundreds of times with clients. so does the judge already have his mind made up when you hear a accommodating, polite and respectful. does that mean anything considering what trump says about this, judge? pretty much daily i think it was a pragmatic approach that he should be respectful to probation officer interviewing him. >> i've never had general counsel show up at the hundreds that i've ever been on. i've also never had the commission shouldn't have department of corrections show up. so obviously, everyone's looking at this very, very carefully. but aaron, as we talked about last week, i do think that this judge as most judges who sat through the trial before sentencing, have most of their mind made up 90% or so. this is not going to, i think move the needle very much because everyone knows who don't trump is. everyone knows about the facts of the case, which really interesting is whether or not they took this opportunity to give a written statement or a verbal statement of his position. i'm almost surprised if he didn't just because of who he is, although i tell my clients never to give a written or verbal statement at this stage wait until you get in front of the judge all right. >> well, we'll see the mark. i want to ask you about one other thing here because it trump obviously was in this interview today means i'm rudy giuliani, right? who was at the helm of this, his efforts to overturn state election results was he had his mug shot taken america county and arizona a process in phoenix after pleading not guilty to charges of trying to overturn the election, they're just looking at this picture and he's got a blue and a white star tie on. i tried to smile, i guess. i mean, mark, what's your reaction looking at that mug shot? >> it's insulting to the process to be honest, i remember rudy when i grew up in new york and all of that good stuff, america's mayor, like you mentioned, it's just sad that we're getting to the point where on the same day from a president, maybe a future president is getting your probation interview. and the former mayor of america is getting a mug shot taken heavy, said that he knows the respective should give the process he hasn't done it recently, but he knows and you don't smile, you don't look away from the camera. you give the respect even at the process of a mug shot, to respect the process that quite honestly, he was sworn to protect for decades and it's when will you say right? >> i mean, he's mocking it by the smile. it's not, not of a state of mind, it's a mocking. >> my goal when we talk of trump allies, it's actually very relevant here in the context of the probation conversation because florida governor ron desantis, they obviously were rivals for a time. >> they were allies, then rivals. and now here we are but desantis could actually be the one who oversees whatever sentence trump gets, right? >> right. so the way this works is a little known part of probation national e coli interstate compact. and if you're sentenced in a jurisdiction, but you happen to live in another jurisdiction, which is the case here, right. sentenced in new york lives in florida most of the time through the interstate compact, the supervision of that case will be done in a jurisdiction that the person lives in. so under normal circumstances, if he was sentenced to probation, they would make a request to be transferred to florida probation. right? >> those requests are normally fulfilled. i think this one there may be a little more of a discussion then they're normally is, but that agency is, as you say controlled by the governor and floor. >> so how he really has to check in or the way he's treated that would could potentially be the decision of governor to potentially the that compact gives wide berth to the receiving agency as they're called and the general rule is that agency treats this person as they do similar people there are no services, no similar people and it's a terrorist. >> what's the process here is my mega is point out this is the first step. it's a month from tomorrow that we're actually going to get the sentencing unless it's delayed. >> so the process here is what then trump's team files for what they think the sentence should be. and there's a whole lot of back-and-forth exactly what one of the things that the probation officer will be doing. they don't just have to interview some thinking interview family members. they can talk to prior victims if there were any victims in this case, it's victimless, so to speak, but they're going to be continuing to do their investigation. the judge is doing his research by the way, he is looking at how many similar people have had these types of charges and what has been their sentence. so he's doing that. >> and meanwhile, the attorneys obviously are working on their recommendations. >> both the prosecution and the defense. all right. well, thank you all very much. next we do at breaking news on the jury, deliberating in the hunter biden trial tonight, his family turning out in force today. the prosecution warrants the jury about by this family presence in the courtroom plus protests, breaking out tonight after one of america's top allies suffers a shocking defeat at the polls. tonight. far right's candidates across europe gaining ground and justice samuel alito, listen to this secretly recorded on tape what. the difference the most anticipated moment this election and the stakes couldn't be higher, biden democracy is on the ballot. >> your freedom is on the ballot trump, there is nothing we cannot do who will make america powerful again, the president and the former president, one state, two very different visions for america's future. >> the weight only cnn can bring it to you moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th at nine live on cnn and streaming and backs life is better with the credit gods on your side. >> rewards. once available to the view, are now accessible to the many credit one bank get cashback or was it lives large discover our newest resorts, sandals and vincent and the grenadines. >> now open visit sandi it's dot com or call 1800 sandals lawmakers are trying to shut down planned parenthood, the health care of more than 2 million people is at stake. >> our right to basic reproductive health care here is being stolen from us. planned parenthood believes everyone deserves health care. it's a human right future generations are beginning to lose the right we fought for the rights for ourselves, our kids and our grandkids, gone just like that. i can't believe this is the world we live we're, we're losing the freedom took control our own bodies last year, politicians and 47 states introduced bills that would block people from getting the sexual and reproductive care they need where does it end? 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