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r >> chr>> chris brow> musir music" otp musimu. >r >> abp >> abby hu> conservatir conservative polit commentatcommentator and the d jon huntsman. morgp morgmorgan spurlo filmmakfilmmaker anp filmm one r one of yoone of p. and will cain, columnist forr forredblaze.com. we have new information in the terrifying account of the shooting rampage that happened at the small college in california, college is called oikos university. 43-year-old one goh a former student apparently seeking revenge. goh, a korean native and naturalized citizen lost both his mother and his brother in the past year and he was struggling with more than $20,000 in tax debt. he was a opportunity at oikos but then was kicked out several months ago. we begin this morning with the oakland police chief, howard jordan. nice to talk to you, sir. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. your investigators have had a chance to sit down and talk to mr. one. what has he said to you about the motivation at this point? >> good morning. yeah, he said to us that he was upset with the administration. he was a student there and while he was a student he had been picked on, wasn't treated fairly by students, and the administrator, and he wanted to get back at them. we're not certain exactly what type of problems he was having with students but he was very upset, distraught about the administration and the way they had treated him in class. >> so he had been kicked out of the school, is that correct? when did that happen? >> yeah, he was expelled according to our reports several months ago, probably the beginning of this year or sometime right after that. >> the word that we're getting about what transpired yesterday morning was that he came into a classroom and then lined up the students. is that correct? can you tell me what else happened? >> yeah, he entered the building right across the street from us here. he took the secretary into the classroom and began to line up the rest of the students in the classroom. he was there specifically to look for someone, i can't reveal who that person is. that person was not there. once he realized that she wasn't there he first shot the secretary, and then began to shoot the other members in the classroom. he then left, came back and went throughout the school shooting into several classrooms, went on a shooting rampage looking for other victims before he eventually left out the back door, stole a car that belonged to one of the victims, drove to a neighboring city five miles away from here where he surrendered at a local grocery store. >> you say he was looking specifically for an individual, i know you can't tell us who this individual is, was day teacher, administrator, was it another student? >> we believe it was an administrator but i don't have any other information besides that. >> what was his demeanor like not only when awe rested him but also as your investigators questioned him? >> sorry, can you repeat that? >> what was his demeanor like? was it difficult to bring him under alameda, a few miles away. was he confrontational? did he admit to the shootings? >> yes, he was very cooperative, very matter-of-fact, very calm, and did not offer any resistance at all at the time of the shooting. he surrendered as i mentioned earlier and during the investigation, with our investigators he does not, he was very cooperative, remembered very good details about what happened. does not appear to be remorseful at all, but did provide us with enough information, we believe, to start putting the pieces of this puzzle together. >> i'm told the weapon was a .45 millimeter handgun. have you recovered that yet? last i read it hadn't been recovered. >> no, that weapon has not been recovered. we are going to be searching for that later on today and we're hoping we can find that weapon. >> has he given you any indication of what happened to it? if he's ditched it? >> no, our investigators were very determined to find out what happened. however, he did not, he was not ooptive with us when he came to the actual location of the weapon so we're going to be doing some follow-up work to find out what happened to that weapon. >> what are you expecting to charge him with, seven counts of murder? >> the d.a. will have to decide that. we will present the case to her sometime in the next couple of days and the d.a. will have to decide based on the evidence that we present to her what charges she will file against the suspect. >> chief howard jordan of the oakland police department, thanks for your time this morning, sir. we appreciate the update. >> you're welcome. >> let's get to christine with other headlines for us. good morning. >> good morning. three crucial gop primaries today with nearly 100 delegates on the line in wisconsin, maryland and washington, d.c. polls open in maryland and d.c. right now. mitt romney leading the polls in all three of today's contests. wisconsin is the big prize with a haul of 42 winner-take-all delegates. rick santorum showing no signs of backing down, vowing to stay in the race even if he loses all three primaries today. martha johnson, head of the general services administration, has resigned and two top deputies fired for lavish over-the-top spending at a conference in las vegas. four managers of the gsa have been placed on leave. the conference cost more than $800,000 and featured a mind reader and a clown. former president bill clinton will join forces with president obama to raise some serious dough later this month, a big fund-raiser in virginia at the home of former dnc committee chairman terry mcauliffe, one of three fund-raisers president clinton is holding for november. the u.s. is offering a $10 million boiunty for an alleged terrorist accused of orchestrating attacks in mum buy that killed 166 people, including six americans in 2008. hafiz saeed is the man. minding your business this morning, the dow is down about 20 points right now. remember markets are near four-year highs. we're waiting for a new report on auto sales. a lot of people saying that auto sales are improving because people are feeling better about the economy, more confident, buying big ticket items like cars and they're tired of driving their old cars they've been holding on to for ten years so long. pennsylvania beef products company afa filed for bankruptcy protection after a public outcry over the apoenia treated beef filler dubbed pink slime. several big chains including kroger and safeway banned the sale of so-called pink slime in their stores in light of the controversy. no word yet how many jobs will be lost. look at kentucky fans celebrating the big ncaa championship win last night. things got out of hand pretty quickly. thousands poured into the streets. more than 30 fires set. police say one man was wounded in a shooting. they arrested dozens of people, all this after the big wildcats win over the kansas jayhawks. 67-59, to take home kentucky's eighth national championship. carlos diaz live at the site of the game in new orleans. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, you know, it's one thing to say that you had 30 fires last night in lexington, but it's an improvement over the 50 fires they dealt with in lexington saturday night after kentucky beat louisville, their in-state rival. kentucky's eighth national championship and wildcat fans had been waiting 14 years to celebrate. john calipari, head coach of the kentucky wildcats has been waiting all his life to cut down the nets. he's never won a national championship even though he has led three teams to the final four including u mass. memphis and kentucky. it is a big win for the number ranked team in the nation and coming into the tournament they were the overwhelming favorite so it's not too often that in a tournament where 68 teams are competing and playing only one game to see who is going to win it that the best team does win. the best team did win last night. >> carlos diaz thank you so much. soledad, are we the only country in the world where 40% of our kids go to college, ready for college material but riot when they win? >> and riot when they don't quite win. >> yeah, right, in the semifinal. not like we didn't have warning. they rioted after the semifinal win. >> that was a setup, a warmup. >> it was practice for the actual rioting later. christine, thank you. still ahead on "starting point," a sharper look at george zimmerman, just minutes after he shot and killed trayvon martin. could it in fact prove that he was attacked? we'll talk to the martin family attorney coming up next. plus get real. ice cream trucks banned by empowered parents in a town in new york. check out the entire show at our website cnn.com/startingpoint. we leave you with george benson "on broadway." you're watching "starting point." need any help? uh, nope. just, uh, checking out my ad. nice. but, you know, with every door direct mail from the postal service, you'll find the customers that matter most: the ones in your neighborhood. print it yourself, or we'll help you find a local partner. and postage is under 15 cents. i wish i would have known that cause i really don't think i chose the best location. it's not so bad. i mean you got a deal... right? [ bird cries ] go online to reach every home, every address, every time with every door direct mail. a florida prosecutor is firing back at the family of trayvon martin today. he calls their version of what happened the night that trayvon was killed outside lies. new reports show that state attorney norm wolfinger met with sanford police chief bill lee on the night of the shooting and reportedly disregarded detectives' advice to arrest george zimmerman. the family wants the justice department to investigate how wolfinger handled the case. he says "it didn't happen. i encouraged the justice department to investigate and document that no such meeting or communication occurred. i have been encouraging those spreading the irresponsible rhetoric to stop." joining us this morning is jasmine rand, an attorney for trayvon martin's family. nice to talk to you. thanks for being with us. let me walk through this, his reaction, wolfinger based off a letter from another family attorney benjamin crump, we learned that bill lee met with norm wolfinger. you heard wolfinger say the meeting did not happen. he wants the justice department to document that did not happen. both cannot be true. which one is lying? >> you know, obviously we believe our version of the facts. i cannot reveal our source but we believe that our source is credible and that a meeting did take place between wolfinger and chief bill lee that night, and perhaps more influential is even their decision not to take the lead homicide investigator, chris soreno's advice and make an arrest for manslaughter charges of the killing of trayvon. >> he has an affidavit to say that was his position and i haven't seen any evidence of an affidavit as well. do you have that evidence of an affidavit, also talked about in the letter? >> i do not have a copy of that affidavit, but he did prepare an affidavit i believe several news sources obtained a copy of it and i think the fact that he prepared an affidavit is telling how strongly he felt about his position. it's unusual someone would prepare an affidavit of that nature. >> "we believe that family members" meaning gm gm's family members, "were present at the police department." which family members? are you alleges there was undue negotiation between zimmerman's family and the police? >> we are calling that into question, asking the police to look at -- sorry the united states department of justice to look at a totality of the circumstances and just ensure that there was no improper action on behalf of any government officials that night and if there was that they are brought to justice accordingly. >> do you believe there was improper action on the part of the state attorney? do you think he was unduly influenced in this case? >> i do believe so. that's why we wrote this letter and you know, something doesn't sit right with us about this incident, like i said we have credible sources stating that wolfinger and chief of police bill lee did meet that night, so that's why we've asked the united states department of justice to make inquiry into that specific meeting and why they chose not to press charges. >> i know you're not going to reveal your sources but can you tell me a little bit more about them generally, one source or two sources and what are their roles in the investigation in its entirety? >> i can't say anything with any more specificity. >> you can tell me if it's one source or two sources? >> i believe that it's multiple sources that know of the meeting that took place that night. >> okay. i want to talk to you about this videotape, we've seen it a lot and talked about it a lot over the last few days of george zimmerman getting out of a police vehicle, and it's all sort of recorded. it's now been enhanced and if you look more closely, you can actually see it does seem to be there's some kind of injury kind of on the top of his head. do you think that this injury, some people were saying, that he had not been injured in this scuffle that was described in the police report, do you think that injury does, in fact, support his version of the events, that he was attacked, as he has told police, by trayvon martin? >> absolutely not. i have not personally seen the enhanced version but i think the most telling sign is that the second ambulance that was originally called out to the scene to respond for any potential injuries to george zimmerman was canceled, because they said he was not in need of medical attention. he arrived at the police station in a cop car. he did not arrive in an ambulance, and the version that i saw there's no apparent serious bodily harm or injury, and he went home that night. he didn't go to a hospital and trayvon went to the morgue. >> his family members have said that a medical exam will show in fact his nose was broken and it happened in a scuffle with trayvon martin. >> that does not change our position. once again, george zimmerman was the aggressor. he pursued trayvon in this instance. if he did have any medical injuries, that did not give him the right to use deadly force and shoot and kill trayvon. >> let's talk about this audio clip. we had it analyzed yesterday, and talked with the audio expert who was analyzing it and what he found is that he could not confirm that it was george zimmerman's voice as george zimmerman claimed in the police report to the officers. here's a little bit of what the expert told us yesterday. >> if we're comparing zimmerman versus the screams, then we're getting a likelihood ratio of 48% and a false rejection rate of 12.35%, and a false acceptance rate of 14.9%. those low numbers get translated as it's very unlikely that it is the same person. >> the upshot of what he's saying there and kind of walked us through that math yesterday, that he does not believe that is george zimmerman's voice screaming on the tape, but what he could not confirm that it was trayvon's voice either because he doesn't have the original, you know, voice to match it to do the tests on it. will you get to him an audiotape of trayvon's voice so that you could do that test? would you like to see that? >> i no he that mr. park stated yesterday we would provide that audio recording. i do not have any personal knowledge whether or not we have an actual audio recording of trayvon's voice. >> the fbi is canvassing the neighborhood of this gated community. what sort of conversations are you having specifically with the fbi at this point? >> i'm not having any conversations with the fbi at this point. they are conducting their investigation. >> hmm, interesting. all right, thanks for updating us on what is happening in the case. we certainly appreciate it. he we know the department of justice has been called in to investigate the police as well. jasmine rand is an attorney for trayvon martin's family. thank you. >> thank you. coming up on our text hour one of george zimmerman's neighbors, frank taaffe, had an interesting thing to say about trayvon-like dudes that had been in the neighborhood and while he was talking about race he didn't think was involved in the case but all of the trayvon like dudes. we'll discuss what exactly he meant by that later this morning. ahead a mock movie poster is warning new york city that al qaeda is coming back. it is setting off red flags in the intel community. and banning ice cream, why parents are trying to ruin the summer in your neighborhood, morgan. >> thanks a lot, yeah. >> we'll go to your playlist, this is "testimony." ♪ you are my sunshine, my only sunshine ♪ ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] choose the same brand your mom trusted for you. children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just good for business, it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $6.4 billion in new credit to small businesses across the country last year. because the more we help them, the more we help make opportunity possible. enough plastic water bottles to stretch around the earth over 190 times. each brita filter can take up to 300 of those bottles out of the equation. ♪ i'm your ice cream man, stop me when i'm passing by ♪ ♪ i'm your ice cream man, stop me when i'm passing by ♪ van halen "ice cream man" an important song for this next segment. >> perfect intro. >> yes it is. our "get real" this morning, talking about one neighborhood in brooklyn called park slope, brooklyn, happens to be where morgan spurlock lives. >> it is an amazing place to raise kids, wonderful place to have a family but there are some crazy pashts in that neighborhood. >> enthusiastic? overaggressive? >> the fact they want to ban ice cream trucks, god forbid you got to be a parent and tell your kid no. >> the back story a blog post on parkslope.com, a mother complained about a day at the play ground ruined, ruined, ruined by ice cream vendors so of course that means it must be stopped and don't you know about park slope, the enthusiastic overempowered parents, she was starting this movement to try to get the ice creamed vendor banned. >> darned your sugary goodness. >> along with the first truly beautiful day of the year, and here is a little bit of how it went back and forth. >> go somewhere else, go on another corner. >> it's a little extreme. a little treat is a good thing. >> they're walking down the street, my kid wants every toy they see? should we banish the toy stores? i don't agree with that. >> i think it's honestly really stupid. >> go out on a limb. >> there were parents, amazing, being parents, saying no to their children. good for them. >> one mom said it was unfair being ostracized. >> that's the best thing about this story. it gives you insight into park slope parenting. >> and if one child has ice cream all the children should have it. i only have one. >> how old? >> when he doesn't get ice cream i don't worry about it. >> one mom asked to remain anonymous for fear of being ostracized by the other parents, this is your neighborhood. >> this is my hood. >> we don't have is in chelsea. >> i'm already ostracized so it's fine. >> ice cream and a soda. >> supersize me. >> you can't ban ice cream trucks. what says america more than an ice cream truck. >> exactly. >> next thing the hotdog vendors and pretzel guys, then what? >> america, destroyed, its fan rick. my final line is from the nanny who says this -- by the way the park where it is happening is called harmony park. the nanny says this, "they're obnoxious"

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